ABEKA | the Christian fundie propaganda I learned in school
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I was an Abeka kid… we were an abeka family. Now I’m a surgical technologist and I’m the middle of my pre-med journey. I so often struggle with feeling cheated out of fundamental science and math. Physics is so much harder when you were taught that God made mathematics 🫣
Fun fact slaves used braiding their hair to avoid messages beging discovered and to map out escape routes
Many years ago I came across Abeka (was gifted some books for a school) and apparently Scandinavians are lazy because of their welfare system, God loves you if you’re clean, and a picture of Hagia Sofia (cathedral) was used to show a typical mosque. We ended up using the books to teach critical reading and to always check your sources. 😆
They are the perfect resource for learning about why checking sources is important lol
That’s horrible.
I think it’s smart to use them as example of bad writing and why critical thinking is important
The Hagia Sophia has been a mosque since 1453
@@soarel325 yes it is. It's also had a museum section but I don't know if it still does.
And Bob Jones University did not allow interracial dating until 2000. -________-
I was an Abeka kid growing up. It’s amazing to me how terrifying the stuff that was poured into my brain at an impressionable age.
On the bright side, I used to switch the TV over from the Abeka videos to MTV when my mom wasn’t looking, so I’m sure I missed a lot of the indoctrination.
This is so funny to me 😂
Agreed. Great
Rock on!🤘
Lol MTV for the win
I wish that I had never watched a single disgusting wicked music video and that I had actually been learning and watching Abeka instead. It's interesting how so many people never actually appreciate the blessings that they have and only see their own childhood in a completely negative light.
Im so thankful that people make these videos. Im unfortunately being homeschooled and my "curriculum" is abeka. Ive always questioned the existence of a god and am highly critical of my parents religion (fundamentalist evangelical christan) and it makes them LIVID that I dont blindly accept their book because there is absolutely zero evidence for god. I fight with my mom about christianity nearly every single day. Religion ruined my life, especially when I was younger. I was struggling with my sexuality because I had heard from my family that it is a sin. I came out to my mom and it was one of the worst days of my life. I specifically remember being in tears and telling my mom that the only thing I want from her is her love and acceptance. I dont understand how cold hearted someone can be, a person that says they have dedicated their life to christ, a supposed man of love, tells me that she will never accept me. Its been five years since she told me that and I still struggle with what she said and the hundreds of things both after and before. Ive been gaslit to believe that religious trauma doesnt exist and that Im always in the wrong. See videos like these make me so happy and makes me feel so validated knowing that Im not alone nor am I the crazy one. Ive pretty much always been atheist but actually reading the bible and truly thinking for myself without a propaganda lens that Ive been taught to see through made me see how silly it all is. Me and my mom fight every time we have school because I talk about how stupid the health, science, and history books are. The history especially is so unbelievably wrong and even a homeschooler in a fundie household can say that. My mom has finally agreed to let me spend the last year of my schooling at a regular highschool since shes gotten sick of me using points that she doesnt wish to hear about (sounds so culty to me but thats here nor there) I know this comment is all over the place but this video made me see just how messed up my schooling has been. Seriously, thank you so much for this video
Hi! First, just know I’m proud of you for employing critical thinking skills and advocating for yourself. I hope you’re proud of you too. Second, you are valid and worthy of love from your family no matter your sexuality. Proud of you for having the courage to come out. Keep up the good work. ♥️
Hey, I read this comment, and my heart ached to comfort you.
I was homeschooled with abeka and grew up super fundamentalist Pentecostal.
I was sent to conversion therapy camps, and when I finally came out at 21 as a transwoman, I lost my entire community and family.
I've been where you are.
I'm proud of you for being far braver than I, and I joined the Marines at 17. I was so scared to come out that I ran from it. You're brave, you're smart, you're worthy of love and forgiveness simply for existing. You deserve to have an understanding mother.
I'm sorry to say some parents never come around, mine never will. Most do, though, and I hope yours do.
There's a sense of freedom when you have no roots, but getting comfortable with that feeling is painful at times. You don't deserve that pain.
I can't replace a mother, but I offer understanding if you ever need to vent, reply to this comment and I'll see it.
The reason that people "won't come around" is because it is described in the Bible as going "against nature" and "vile affections", etc. It's nothing personal, it's just what the Bible actually says.
Romans 1:26-27
King James Version
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Psalms 27:10 KJV - When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.
@@believestthouthis7 I. Do. Not. Care. Your god is a cruel, vindictive, arrogant, narcissistic, jealous, petulant child. I want nothing to do with Him.
Im watching this while currently cheating through my science finals, and I dont feel guilty after watching this now. Thank you!
Omg, thank you for this video, because no one ever believed me that I was taught this garbage. And for a moment, I thought I was maybe making it all up, but then seeing this, I realized I wasn’t! The worst part of this is, people actually praise this curriculum, but this is sooo harmful and I wish people talked about this more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Stephanie TRUST ME when i say that i TOO have gaslit myself thinking "theres no way! I am misremembering! iT CANT BE THAT BAD!"
It was! And Im so glad others who grew up like me are able to speak out about it now. Thanks for being here.
I was an Abeka kid! Hearing you read all this stuff really explains a lot about my life and the beliefs i had previously subscribed to
You’re correct. Your video was the ONLY negative video on TH-cam regarding Abeka. In my quest to find a curriculum for my first grader, I researched too many to name. Abeka was a hard no from the first video I watched in the free streaming video trial. The teacher was so incredibly creepy. I felt like it was an expert session in brainwashing.
I swear to you it IS brainwashing
In my opinion, it’s almost Soviet Union or North Korea -level propaganda! Of course, opposing in its actual rhetoric, but definitely on that level!
This is the top recommended video when you search for "Abeka". People love to mock.
As someone with experience in public and private school, I would have rather have done Abeka and learned the Bible growing up.
you would've rather learnt fabricated and false information? lol
I think you're misunderstanding. the purpose isn't bullying or picking on or mocking anyone, it's calling out that it's a sinister influence on children.
At the end of the day, if you're teaching children a sweetened up and romanticized version of the history of rape, abuse and murder, you're probably not a very good christian.
im a freshman in college now, i used abeka from kindergarten to my senior year of high school. I actually wrote a paper for my college english class about how i felt homeschooling stole my education from me. i dont know basic shit about evolution that i shouldve learned years ago in school and it makes me angry.
Agree
The theory of evolution is a lie. You are not a monkey but that's what Satan would like you to believe. You're correct about describing it as "basic s***", because it belongs in the trash.
The original purpose of the education system was to teach people to read so that they might read the Bible.
I don’t know if you’ll see this, and I’m sorry you went through this. If you still feel like you have gaps in your education, you might check out the Crash Course videos. They have several science and history series that you might find helpful. I’m also a fan of the For Dummies books. Ignoring the slightly insulting name, they’re usually do a good job explaining the subjects, and they seem to have a book on everything.
I had to check out that handbook after hearing you read from it. Wow!! Pure insanity! The level of control they exert over actual adult students is astounding! Every single aspect of life is riddled with rules and “expectations.”
Thank you so much for this video! 😭 I was bounced around between homeschooling, v v smol private Christian schools (literally just volunteer "teachers" monitoring us doing our home school work), a bit of public school, a bit of internet academy, etc, until I got my GED - my education was a MESS. But anyway, our Christian curriculum at home and in those schools mostly consisted of the ACE paces, and then some ABEKA when I got older. I will never forget the little comics in the workbooks. They basically showed an ideal 1950's vision of white Christian life. I remember one, the mom asked the dad if she could get a new dress for his work party they were attending. He said no. So she went to go sew/alter an old dress, saying a verse in her head about doing so with a joyful heart, and then there was a caption about being a submissive wife. They'd have other things, like teaching girls that their hair was their glory and to grow it out long. The comics had racist overtones towards the literally single black family, and classist overtones towards the "unsaved/naughty" child from a broken family that they constantly tried to save.
Aside from that, I remember reading their take on slavery and it was awful just as you showed. They also said something like "when the native Americans gave us this land" and I was just like WHAT. I remember two full pages of Ace's grandpa going on a homophobic rant as he talked about how he met his wife and God's plan for marriage, and how gays were to blame for all the aids in Africa and basically everything else. And of course it taught creationism, not science.
(CW: mention of vi0lence/de@th) Also, I remember my parents had to supplement and give me history assignments when I was homeschooled, bc all of my reading material, all of my history and geography, for like years, was about missionaries and martyrs and the locations they'd been in and what they'd done! I was reading about a missionary, getting all his limbs and then his jaw ch0pped off in front of his wife and children by a guy with a m@chete, but it was ok bc the wife forgave him and he asked Jesus into his heart, and then came to live with them and help with the kids and help bring more people to Jesus - hallelujah! - at 10 years old.
Which, hey, I guess wasn't bad in their opinion, since they'd literally showed our whole school a snuff film in an assembly when I was 8, of a woman in Africa being k*lled by her tribe bc she'd looked in a hut only for men and their gods essentially, and broken their biggest rule, and so we watched as she was ritualistically k*lled, with her two small children sitting on her lap. And it wasn't staged, it was a real documentary that one of our missionaries had brought with him from a different country, it probably wasn't even legal here. And they showed it to grades k-12. They showed it bc they wanted to make us think that the people over there were s@vages that needed to be saved so that we'd grow up to be good little missionaries, too. Which disgusts me. Anyway, we went back to class and I couldn't stop sobbing at my desk, and the teaching helpers legit seemed like they didn't understand why, bc they prayed with me, so I should have been ok, right? They had to have my mom pick me up. 🙃
Oh, also, having different Bible verses - in old King James! - in every pace that we had to have memorized by the end of it. I had to practice memorizing the Bible verses more than my spelling words, and I was undiagnosed ADHD (otherwise known in Christian households as "just defiant and disobedient"), so it was extra hard. My mom called them and asked if they could switch it to NKJV actually, and they said they couldn't bc a big part of the Amish community uses the curriculum too, so they had to keep it old king James for them. So we were stuck with ye thou thy. 😒
Anyway, thank you for this video, and thank you for letting me vent in this absolute novel which I also apologize for, but jfc I needed to get this out. 😭
I still have Abeka, Apologia, and Masterbooks (just started 10th). My mom has been OK with my atheist beliefs and she even loves both Young Sheldon and Big Bang theory, probably the most mainstream shows with clear atheist themes. But Abeka's English course is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. The English rules were barely in order and would have us do worksheets on stuff BEFORE WE EVEN LEARNED ABOUT THEM. And what evil psychopath puts old English quotes from books that existed before we even gained independence, and Bible quotes that still use "thee", "thoust", and "whom" as the sentences we have to work with?? It got so bad my mom gave me completion points on almost everything, and when we're grading and I get something wrong, SHE AGREES WITH MY ANSWER half the time!!!
my family are laid-back baptists, my immediate family is especially laid-back. parents are definitely super conservative politically but they allowed me and my sister to consume all the kid culture, have friends of all backgrounds and form our own opinions. i'm autistic and had trouble with going to public school when i was younger. i was homeschooled 4th, 5th, and 8th grade - for 4th and 5th i had bob jones and for 8th grade i had abeka. i think my parents just wanted to use a religious curriculum and they didn't think twice about _who_ was producing those curriculums and _what_ was in them, because they aren't fundies in any sense of the word. definitely "i'm not homophobic, BUT-" types, but they didn't shelter me from the outside world.
I grew up on a beka from ages 5-14 and switched to public school when I started Highschool and I was very much behind
I was raised Seventh Day Adventist
I have suspicions my Seventh day Adventist school used Abeka but I can'tbe sure
@@Silvertongue123
SDA has very different theological beliefs so I can't see them using Abeka. They have their own curriculum(s) specific to SDA.
Christian schools always freak me out a little bit. I'm just remembering a girl I grew up with who was kept from doing so many things by her Christian parents. Things like not being allowed to play with dolls or go to certain events. She wasn't allowed to learn any form of sexual education and I never once saw her wear pants. Also I love that you were interrupted by your potatoes, baked potatoes are the best
Since leaving fundyland, I maintain people are not afraid enough of fundies. Guns, white supremacy, racism, queerphobia, transphobia, misogyny, and LOTS of money. 😬
Homeschooled ABEKA kid here. Yes it was white Christian nationalist teachings, yes it was “dinosaurs walked the earth with man” and “g*d created the earth in 6 days” and biblical literalism. Horrible stuff. I didn’t learn basic math facts until college. I was essentially unschooled after I could read and write.
lies! my daughter is in the 1st percentile for the state of Texas in math! Abeka is pretty tough in math. public school counterparts can’t light a candle to her. by the way she is African American and the Abeka curriculum is not racist to us. you must be a brain washed christian hater. may God have mercy on your mean remarks which are wrong, and smug. you obviously don’t know our black history. stop lying to your audience until you speak with our race to get the facts.
I am an avid watcher of your videos and when my mom reccomended Abeka while we were discussing education for my son i decided to do my research and saw this video! Immediately clicked and thank goodness i did! 🙏
I think it's important to note that in addition to the anti-Black racism, the use of "gloablists" and the characterization of them in these materials is extremely antisemitic.
you are 100% correct
my parents are officially forcing me to do ABEKA now! yippee..
oof I'm sorry to hear that
So I was homeschooled but my mom basically made my own curriculum because even though we bought abekka, it was way too fundie for her and she'd start yelling at the book and be like "so that's bullshit, here, we're watching a documentary and I'm making my own test" lol. So we basically had three history books, there was an abekka world history book, a secular world history book, and then she'd have me watch random documentaries like Ken Burns stuff. I was always in a weird spot at co-ops and stuff because while my mom was pretty religious, she wasn't homeschooling me for religious reasons and I wasn't nearly as fundie as the other kids.
Your mom should be set up as an example or influencer in the homeschool community.
I’m homeschooled and I’m currently being “taught“ with the program. It's given me basic skills, though I feel like Abeka has bought me a christianity that is extremely scary that does not feel right. Recently I have invested more time in learning history in a more accurate, unbiased form. It has been really good for me. I feel absolutely dreadful when I open up my history book knowing that I’ll just roll my eyes but study it anyway cause I can’t handle bad marks. I noticed that a lot of the examples you gave were around the 2000’s and I can confirm that they have not changed on bit. They completely lied about the starting of the Mexican War, basically saying that Mexico was just a greedy country who couldn’t get over the fact that the US had their land now. Teaching extremely young kids a conservative, anti-liberal, and black and white sentiment doesn’t sit right with me. Not because of the beliefs but because they are so young! Kids deserve the truth and they deserve the right to their own mindset.
Ugh 😑 I was homeschooled and used a Beka k-12. I’m in my 30s now, trying to figure out what I missed so I can go back and try to fill in the gaps 🙃
Unfortunately it’s just now come to my attention how bad my education was 😳
Thanks for sharing this!
You're no worse off than public school kids. Trust me. I attended Public school, and it was just as whack.
You should check out the Crash Course videos. They’ve been good for me in remembering the history I either forgot or the curriculum glossed over. They’ve got science, psychology, all sorts of subjects.
@@sarahp.3772anecdotal logical fallacy
I grew up on Abeka books. Fortunately for me and my many siblings, our mom was a college educated woman with a degree in teaching and had the perfect countenance for home schooling. Even with that, I am 40 years old and am still in therapy for my childhood. The Duggers have brought back a lot of bad memories as well. I did attend PCC as well. I have stories for days
Wow. My sympathies. I’m that age and in therapy too for the “sins” of my parents and of my parent’s parents. I managed to insist on a secular college or I may never have broken free from that high control environment while miserable the whole time.
Leaving the church was one thing (services were so boring and monotonous) but recognizing that teachings and a world view that seemed so normal were actually damaging has been another level. The brain washing is pervasive when done to children. Such an abuse of power.
Maybe there’s a short course I can find for ex-fundies that teaches all the things i should have learned but wasn’t taught. Undoing brainwashing. Then I would finally learn how to write cursive capital letters correctly (thanks bju), how carbon dating works and why there are no genetically inferior races. 😬 Even as a kid I pushed back against these warped teachings feeling they weren’t right, didn’t make sense (you probably did too) but a kid shouldn’t be put in that position.
I was an Abeka kid -- love having to relearn science and history 😭
GIRL! I feel like you just talked about my whole childhood. My poor mom, says sorry for the school she sent me to so many times. She had no real idea how bad it was and really thought I would get a better education at a private school.
I remember Pensacola Christian College coming to my school to speak with us about their school one time and I was in elementary or middle school b/c I left in 7th grade and remember thinking their rules were insane!
The amount of stories I have about this LOL
Listen one of these days you gotta tell me all your stories
@@ReadswithRachel we definitely need to swap stories one day! I'm sure it would be wild!
That’s Infurating
When I was a 6th grade homeschooler I remember reading the history book and it claiming that Africa never produced any nations historically and how slavery wasn't that bad of an institution. This was in 2003 folks. It's crazy how bad their propaganda is
My story is almost identical to yours. Except we were taught Martin Luther King was a "communist woman chaser". And you left out the one big lie these "schools " tell parents. "Our curriculum is two years ahead of public school education " when in fact when I did finally go to public school, I was 3 years behind
I did Abeka in my private schools from 1st to 5th grade. When I transferred to public school I struggled so hard. I was so behind in all subjects. I’m graduating in 3 weeks from public school and I am so glad I’m out of there!!!
The horror… I need to protect my immortality by going to a movie theater to preform a seance. Very informative video Rachel! I never knew about Abeka before.
I’m so glad you were spared lol
I also feel like putting such a huge stigma on even being in the same PARKING lot as someone of the opposite sex would just make people…freakier
It's so that they can blame girls/women for being assaulted or harassed. "Well, I see you were walking in a space that we said is not allowed for you and wearing a shirt that shows yours collarbones... you should not have made yourself into a stumbling block for your brothers in Christ!"
Thank you so much for making this video. I’m in the process of deconstructing what I was growing up. Please make more content like this!!!
Hi! Thanks for watching! I have some videos on fundieland and deconstruction but more are coming soon
lol. I definitely had Abeka books in grade school and remember telling my grandmother at the age of 8, in tears, that I was going to hell bc I was too smart for Jesus to love me, bc evolution made sense and clearly I was damned.
Seeing those books on screen is bringing back memories I’d rather forget despite not having been in school for two decades, thanks for that 😆. No but seriously I hated this curriculum my mom switched us out of A Beka book when I was in seventh grade and we switched to Alpha Omega*. A Beka book was not made for kids with learning disabilities.
I don’t know if Alpha Omega by lifepac was also fundie, but I did prefer it over A Beka especially their math which was much easier.
Hi Rachel! Thanks for the video and as a Catholic raised in a Catholic school, I never learned about this kind of "educational publishers" but can relate to "school imposing their beliefs through books". Luckily the academic and parent's boards were on top so these "misinformed education" got on our heads. In a sour taste, now I understand more and more the "My emotions are facts" thumping discourses that I watch/read news.
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I was always told socialized medicine was awful. Now that my husband and I adopt disabled kids and our daughter qualifies for full Medicaid, we found out it’s pretty awesome😂 I’ve got a million dollar baby that I haven’t paid a penny on for her medical care!
Yikes. That was painful and infuriating all at the same time. Half of the teachings in these books seem to wildly contradict each other.
I grew up super fundie, my mom taught me and my brothers using abeka my whole education.
I've been pagan (and shunned) for 7 years now. I'm incredibly excited to watch this video!
Edit: Omg! I absolutely loved this! Your breakdown was beautiful and accurate!
This is definitely one of my all time favorite videos!
I'm so excited to show my hubby and bf this! They know I'm a socially awkward Christian homeschooler, but they have no idea it was this crazy.
Oh my God, the flashbacks.
Thank you for making this video! I was actually looking for someone who made this. I can't believe I was taught that for so many years. Thank god we switched programs. There is so much stuff wrong with the Abeka program!
Thank you for this video!! I’m excited to watch more of your channel 😊
I went to a Christian middle school, and I’m still disturbed by the ABeka books.
I was 11 yrs old thinking, I know this is wrong.
It’s so sad and just so wrong!!!
Thank you for this! My family peppered abeka in here and there but they did not subscribe to any specific curriculum. I really appreciate you going into this because I still struggle with the absolute crap I was taught. Side note, my hubby also is a freaking life saver because he helps me sort out the trash education I received lol
My grandma makes me use Abeka and it pisses me off.
So weird seeing my childrens school books on the screen. I got them mainly for language arts as theyre hoghly recommended for that. I will have to look over the curriculum carefully when it arrives thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Not much to say. Mainly commenting to up the engagement algorithm cause this video def needs to stay above all the others about Abeka. Thank you!
I appreciate that!
I'm sorry they segregated THE STAIRWELLS BY GENDER???
Lol. you said young earth creationism and I immediately flashed back to Katie Frates' videos one how the Earth is only about 10k years old.
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the ark experience 🤣🤣🤣
Listening to the I Don't Know Her Podcast, and they're saying that if you think reading Harry Potter (or any fiction book, that was just the example) will undo all of the years of conditioning and teaching that you've done, then you aren't giving your family enough credit. I think this is an excellent example of that. They went on to say that if you think your child learning the truth about slavery will undo their ability to have pride in themselves or have self worth, then you aren't doing your job as a parent
So once upon a time, I was a teacher at schools that used Abeka books as their “curriculum”. However, because I knew many of the things being taught in these books wasn’t correct, I had to supplement in every core subject. The straw that broke the camel’s back for me, was when we had to go to Pensacola Christian College for a three day workshop. At the opening part of this workshop, the person over the school ( which included the elementary, middle, high school, and college) got on stage and told us that starting in upper elementary/middle school they started pressuring kids to accept Jesus as there savior. They would even go so far as to start pulling them out of class if they hadn’t done so by 8th grade. Once they reached high school, they were only guaranteed a spot at the school if they had done this otherwise they could be kicked out at anytime if someone else came along wanting to go to this school and they had accepted Jesus. Also, as a visiting teacher I was not allowed to wear pants there- skirts and dresses only. Which I had an issue with the school because that was “chapel” attire and we went around about how they shouldn’t tell kids they have to look a certain or God won’t accept them. So now at the age of 35 I’m still unlearning a lot of things that I was taught as a kid plus what I had to teach my students.
I can’t believe they even dictated what YOU wore while VISITING
That’s gross and disgusting. I’m sorry for you
@@noahbossier1131 thankfully I’m completely out of that lifestyle/fundie group now. And tell people why I do not like Abeka curriculum when asked. I work in a library with a heavy homeschool population so it comes up a lot.
@@Valerie-life-13 good homeschooling should be responsible
STOP. I taught at a Christian school my first year and they used Abeka. I was expected to follow the script to the point where the principal would walk through and I had to be on a certain page in the teaching manual. It was horrible. I got yelled at so many times for going rogue. The whole science curriculum basically said “God did it.” It was very worksheet heavy, and unnecessarily advanced. I taught kindergarten and they were expected to read first grade passages by October. Like, chill they’re 5 year olds. Also, I couldn’t wear pants because that’s a sin apparently.
When you started the commented with “stop” in bold I really thought this was going to go a different way lmao
NO PANTS FOR WOMEN OMG I forgot that was a rule in so many fundieland circles.
So, I don't understand what was the problem? You were teaching at a christian school. Christian schools tend to be accelerated. Not only is evolution a theory it is also not required. Especially in kindergarten.
@@billmarshall268Thats your opinion
@Shrekinaslayyyyyyyyyayayaya how is that my opinion? I made three statements all of which are facts.
I said she was teaching at a christian school? We know that was a fact because she said so.
I said christian schools tend to be accelerated. That is a fact.
I said evolution is a theory and is not required to be taught. That is a fact.
So I ask you what opinion did I share?
@@billmarshall268 The problem was the accelerated curriculum was not developmentally appropriate for the kids. They were doing so much work they were exhausted. They physically did not have the strength to do the amount of writing that was required of them. At no point should a 5 year old be crying over hand writing. It was ridiculous. They were expected to sit in their seats and be silent the entire day. Which is something we don't even expect from adults. I never said anything about evolution. I said the science curriculum didn't teach them any actual science. It just said God made everything. Like we planted flowers and the curriculum was like "God made the flowers grow" so did the sun and water but ok.
I used to do Abeka for about a year maybe back in 2017 because I was having issues with my elementary school. I still remember one of the videos on the DVD being about "Heaven" and how there's "no tears and unhappiness" or something else. Hearing that they implied condoning slavery, and all this other propaganda is horrible.
Personally, I believe religion shouldn't have an influence in one's own education, unless if it's up to the student if they want to be taught that or not.
I know one person who had a year of abeka homeschooling during COVID, and they could not believe some of the lectures they had to endure. I'm glad to see that someone has made a video denoucing abeka teaching materials.
Thank you for this video! Like you said, I haven’t seen anyone talk about this.. These textbooks were the reason for me leaving the church I think. Once I found out what evolution really is on TH-cam, I started questioning everything I had learned. The way they taught that evolution is like a gorilla giving birth to a human…. My god
The fact that the US doesn’t have a standard national high school curriculum will never cease to baffle me
They do, it's called common core, it sucks.
Me too! I went to Catholic school until 8th grade and we actually learned about evolution there and when someone I was telling that to once was shocked by it, I remember naively saying something like, “Well, they had to! Isn’t it the law???” Apparently not. This person directed me to these curriculums and I was (and still am!) absolutely SHOCKED!!!
Schools shouldn't be government funded period. Depending on where the school gets their funding from that who picks out the education. If most schools are funded solely by property taxes. So the local government does it.
Bffr Africans know how to read and write. Christianity has been in Africa since bible times😭😭😭 I can't believe This BS is still being taught.
Africa is one of the countries mentioned in the Bible
Yeah northern africa which is the middle east.
Hmmm, so is it weird that I thought my abeka math and science textbooks as a kid were less religious and high quality compared to the Bob Jones text books we also used? Didn’t realize abeka was so fringe. Bob Jones seemed worse.
My sibling and I went to a Baptist Christian school where they followed the Abeka program, and I was there from kindergarten to 6th grade then we started being homeschooled on the Abeka program. Then after 8th grade we switched programs. And I remember believing some things that those books said. I remember the Abeka program was saying a lot of stuff about how evolution is "wrong" and tried to prove it, earth was made "6000" years ago, which some of the stuff I disagreed with but most of the things the program taught I believed. Then when I was in 8th grade, I started to realize the brainwashing and the Christian propaganda they put in those books, like at the end of the 8th grade history book it said that rock music is "evil and a sin". This was shocking to me that they said that. I also remember the absolutely brainwashing Bible lessons we saw. When I was in 9th grade the other program, we switched to was more proper and didn't have Christian propaganda and now in 10th grade the new program we are on I start to really see the difference in Abeka and the program we are on. Looking back on all the years we were in the Abeka program it now seems like a waste of time mainly the history, science, and Bible subjects. I was really shocked when I saw the Student Handbook Prohibited Activities page, like a lot of the rules there are so weird ridiculous!
Lol I’m watching bc this while I do my Abeka math homework😍🫶I want to change curriculum so bad not just because of the indoctrination of abeka the homework is crazy bro
It’s SO MUCH HOMEWORK that’s like the number one universal abeka complaint
I was homeschooled (non-religious reasons) in the 00s/10s and it was rough because stuff like Abeka and Lifepac were some of the only options and secular homeschooling was a lot more rare than it is today. I remember a biology book that went in depth on Darwin being an evil atheist who tried to convert Christians for an entire chapter rather than teaching anything about biology.
Respectfully, a fool says in their heart there is no God!
This actually isn’t respectful, it’s just you proselytizing to someone who left the cult.
Further, I’m not an atheist. I don’t say there is no god. I’m agnostic. I say “I have no idea what there is”.
I did Abeka for high school, 9th-12th.
Hated it. Despised every last minute of it. Boring, mind-numbing, and full of weird shit like Catholic bashing, denial of evolution, and encouraging girls to "submit to their husbands".
110% would not recommend.
They actually got so much blowback for the catholic bashing once, i recall!
@@ReadswithRachel Good! Given that my *mother* is Catholic, it was... immensely awkward to have to slog through it every year.
help i am in it right now last month then puplic shcool for 11th grade i hate it
It’s funny how these people will create policies that are no-homo, only to make it basically the only option. 😂
But seriously, the fact that they don’t allow dancing by itself just tells you so much. What a drab, lonely existence they expect of everyone under their thumbs.
Yeah that is kind of weird. Homosexuality is bad , now go hang out with only people of your same sex and no hanging out with people of the opposite gender that would be bad.
I’m looking for non religious homeschooling for my kids. My brothers and I were homeschooled for a time with abeka back in the 90s. My sweet mother said to look into it because as she put it “it’s great!” …. As a proud pagan I’m glad I looked into it and can now say I will not be using that garbage to teach my kids. Christian fundamentalism scared me and has no place in my home.
Hi! Not sure if this helps but one of my favorite businesses put together a resource list about non religious homeschooling. www.feministbookclub.com/secular-homeschool-resources/
My family couldnt afford the abeka curriculum so we used Switched ON Schoolhouse. It was a little bit more subtle than abeka i think, but it still shamed evolution and only discussed christian misconceptions of it. It was a very conservative curriculum.
Very familiar with A Beka. Went to a private christian school k-12 in the 1990s... sets you up to be behind going into college. I had buried so many of these points I learned back when I was a child. Wish in a way I could go back, armed with the wisdom I have now and be a thorn in the side of my instructors.
I did K-12 grade with Abeka "curriculum" - I have no idea how I'm a functional member of society. My Christian elementary taught me black people were cursed and that it was my job to overthrow the US government and install a theocracy. I still hold great resentment towards my parents because I feel I was robbed of many opportunities to actually learn, discover, and contribute back to humanity. Instead, I basically capped out in the eighth grade and had to teach myself everything since then. If you're considering homeschooling - find a better way.
I went to secular public school K-12 here, so I have no experience with Christian homeschooling propaganda. But from what I can gather of it from you and all of the people in the comments about how it ruined your lives, Christian homeschooling sounds like a great way for parents to make sure their kids hate them. It's a sure-fire guarantee that they end up dying cold and alone in an abusive nursing home.
No witchcraft
What century is it?
PROBABLY SATAN 😂😂😂
I'm dead, but also very very sorry. I had no idea this was a thing, and it actually explains A LOT
Whether you are homeschooled or public schooled, somebody is going to indoctrinate you as a child. Its a parents right to indoctrinate "their" children, bc if the parent doesnt someone else surely will.
Related comment: oh my god the panic and terror that went through my body when I saw the notification for this video. I almost went to PCC…
Unrelated comment : your lipstick looks STUNNING!
Omg I’m so glad you didn’t go holy shit
Depending on the topic in question, you might be able to find textbooks available from a range of publishers that are freely available by looking up "open textbooks". Folks can choose to publish with a C0 creative commons licence to create open educational resources.
Sorry for the info dump, had to learn copyright law a few years ago for my cert, and it's one of the things that stuck that I haven't used 😅 also free and open source things are the blessings of the internet. We stan FOS/FOSS in this house.
I was an Abeka kid kindergarten all the way through 12th grade on and off (I know) and I'm so horrified cause I both remember some this shit but some of it I just internalized (like the racial stuff) and needed to unpack myself in college. Parents who teach this don't give a shit about their kids, I'm sorry.
I really need to thank my mom for the privilege I have compared to so many others who had religious families. My mom is an Atheist, she grew up with a religious family and one of her sisters is very alt right. My dad grew up fundamentalist and so did the rest of his family. My mother refused to allow him and his family to teach me and my little brother anything and they weren't allowed to talk to Jesus to us. Her and my dad came to an agreement that when we wanted to learn about religion, that they would allow us to go to church and let us think for ourselves. Other than that, no religious talk was allowed in the home, though my dad did have his bibles.
Well, my parents later had 2 more kids and so far, we are all Atheists and my dads family acts and talks a lot about things that I find just... Strange to hear from another living person. My mom saved all of us from growing up and being fundie. I have some memeries of her and my dad agruing over education and religion growing up. Close to when I would be starting public school. My father is also no longer a fundie now. Not sure when it happened, but I remember coming out to him being an Atheist and he said that it was okay. Because he didn't believe in the idea of God he had anymore, but still thinks there is one.
The problem I realized with Abeka is that it isn't a Christian curriculum. The put their own ideas and agendas into their textbooks and call them Gods. But in true Christianity God is a god of love and peace and patience and he gives all people free will. Abeka created their own distorted version of Christianity. Like where in the Bible does it say that girls can only where skirts. Or where does it say that guys are sex seekers that always want to rape girls because of their "uncontrollable desires". And where does it say that a person needs to be a Republican to go to heaven and there are so many other things. I never agreed with half of what they were teaching and neither did my mom. Sadly it was the only Christian curriculum with a decent language arts program.
Abeka is sick and twisted! I agree with you.
No True Scotsman
So, I am confused; is slavery supposed to be a good thing (like in the South) or a bad thing (like when Roe v. Wade was compared to Dredd Scott)?
Morally obviously the right answer is for them to condemn it. The vagueness by which they’re writing about it is intentional, because they don’t fully condemn it. Which is part of the problem. They are trying to beat around the bush because even they know that’s messed up.
It should be illegal to teach such lies.
06:07 She does not believe in God yet has no problem calling his name. smh
Colloquialisms are hard for you, I take it
I went to public school and I'm not even sure if I was allowed to.take any science classes I don't remember going to science class when I was there
This is the criculum I was homeschooled on. More like books dumped on me and it was all up to me to figure it out.
Having been raised in Bible Baptist Fellowship and Independent Fundlemental Baptist churches, one of the few good things about being poor, is that we couldn't afford Christian schools. Unfortunately, much of my family is still indoctrinated, and some of my neices/nephews are/were schooled with Abeka.
Thank you for this video. I have always wondered how we got so many young people who are becoming christian nationalists. It’s so important to support our local public schools. I hope you keep reviewing home school programs. It is so important for people to know what is going on with education in our country.
I’m a homeschool mom and I have NEVER used Abeka, BJU or ACE. I just want to put it out there that the homeschooling community no longer ‘belongs’ to the Fundies and almost everyone I know in my different communities do not even touch any of these curriculums.
Edited to add that I think one reason many H/S moms like Abeka is because it’s workbook heavy. It’s open and go. You can just throw worksheets at your kids and be done by 11:30 am. I do know one mom who did this. It can be very tempting. These kids are not well educated - duh!
Here in florida the homeschool community is predominantly ABEKA, BJU, and ACE. My kids entire soccer team homeschools with Abeka, except for my kid. I don't mind homeschooling, I'm just against fundie curriculum.
My experience with ACE (in middle school) was that it was just my mom throwing worksheets at me. You're so right, that would even tempt me if I were forced to homeschool. Especially if, like my mom, the parents work full time. I feel like fundie curriculums prey upon parents AND kids for this reason. Super frustrating.
Glad to hear from a homeschool parent who doesn't use fundie curriculum! Keep up the good work.
Just throwing worksheets at your kids is probably the easiest when you have seven kids in school, three in diapers, and one on the way because God said so.
This needs more views from #millennial #homeschooled #fundiesnark #deconverted and #exvangelical #90skids 😅
Omg im so happy I found a Marxist ex fundie! (I was not a fundie, but grew up in a catholic patriarchal household and began understanding Marxist theory around the age of 22 (I’m now 26)) it would be awesome to hear how your viewpoints have changed from brainwashed, to Marxist. Idk if that made sense, or if you’ve already made a vid, but ur iconic! Subscribed! 💕
Abeka is a good program focused on Christian teaching. That you do not agree with that is there. You have free will. As a Christian teaching, the reality has to say that everything that exists and subsists is from God and He made it. Note that my children are younger than you and they know how to understand that very well
Abeka was my curriculum. Let’s not oversimplify my stance to “not agreeing”.
Thank you for this. I had never heard of it. This is painful and horrifying. My husbands nieces went to catholic schools, and they both received excellent educations. I went to a catholic college myself. (Public school from K-12) I won a scholarship to the college.
My parents didn't accept that education stopped when you walked off the school bus. We often brought our homework to them wondering what the real point of the lesson was. Instead of telling us what to believe, we were directed to find out. I spent more time in libraries looking up history and learning about what actually happened than I did in a classroom.
It shocked me in High School to find out that my classmates had never done the same. I didn't and still don't understand that lack of curiosity and need to know.
Just found your channel. We were homeschooled using abeka and my sister went to Pensacola. I hated going to visit her. Plus, most of the kids just found ways around the rules
YUP that has been the common story i've heard from former PCC students!
i was raised on a beka books in the 90s-00s from kindergarten to 8th grade. in my thirties and still unlearning
Thank you for discussing your experience and directly addressing this stuff!!! I was raised as an atheist (still am lol) and just got my masters in elem. education so I've been deep diving on these sort of curriculums and collecting textbooks I see at thrift stores lol
I saw a bit of the video and I did Abeka as a kid. Now I am in 11th grade public school. I have to say I liked the Bible and history lessons and did not see anything wrong. I think it is totally fine.
Watch the whole thing and then you will know what the problems are. It is not “totally fine”.
@@ReadswithRachel I mean the books and history that I studied. It is in my opinion that it is totally fine.
@@ReadswithRachel Also Abeka was very pro science
That is categorically false.
@@ReadswithRachel How so?
I'm suddenly grateful that I coasted through most of my abeka curriculum. My mom basically left me to do everything myself with it so my entire high school was spent playing video games LOL. I remember a particular book in 11th grade that was so full of garbage that I went out of my way to destroy it. I don't even remember what was in it except a *lot* of sexism and conservative shit. Eugh. They kept pushing me to travel to Florida and go to college there because I had good grades.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video. I went to Christian school 2-4 grade. I remembered yesterday about Abeka books the owl... I'm 50. I've always wondered why I don't know several important facts! I hate science because I can't picture it! Math? Forget it! I failed pre algebra in highschool in 1991. So I am so grateful for your voice. I now know why I'm lacking in so many subjects🙂 Went back to school to get Bachelor's as an adult. Struggled with math especially. I know nothing about proper English and grammar. Thank you again 😊
OH & I also tried to find bad reviews on a abeka & I can’t find anything! It’s like they’ve had information scrubbed off the Internet or something. No way more people haven’t open their eyes to this BS after they’re out of it!
i am currently doing abeka, but i am not homeschooled and i am teaches at a private school. abekas curriculum we are using is christian based, but they do use real historical information and real scientific information. they teach about evolution, but since as christians we do not believe in evolution, it says it is false in the book. still teaches about it (also i don’t care if people are mad because of our book saying evolution is false, because in public school books it teaches that’s evolution volition is true. again, not everyone believes the same so the curriculum is up to the parents) just clearing this up, as not all the books you can sign up for are unscientific and have no historical accuracy. we learn the same things, if not more advanced things, than public school curriculums do! thank you for reading my opinion and i hope you have a good day.. i’m so sorry you had a bad experience 😢
You don't learn more advanced things in abeka than you would in public school curriculum. They told me this exact thing in all of my four different private christian schools as well. It is untrue. I'm sorry they're actively lying to you. If you ever get out of this bubble, many of us are on the other side in adulthood ready to talk about what you went through being fed this curriculum.
@@ReadswithRachel i just don’t understand what’s all wrong about it
I listed it in the video.
@@ReadswithRachel i didn’t understand
i know you had a different experience but i just don’t relate.. idk maybe one day i’ll come back to this video and relate but right now it just doesn’t sound like what i’ve experienced with the curriculum
You not relating is not the same as what’s wrong with the curriculum. I listed the stuff that’s wrong. Whether or not you have a problem with it being incorrect information is a personal matter on your part but that doesn’t mean that it’s not wrong. The incorrect information about Native Americans and communism and Africa (and on and on) is what’s wrong. And I didn’t know this until I was an adult and got away from the bubble. That is christo-Fascism. It’s very hard to work to undo what they teach us in that bubble and I’m sorry you’re experiencing it.
So, I went to Catholic school and I am SOOOO glad they don’t do this!!! In fact, my parents weren’t even that religious and it was only because they believed it was a better school; and in my opinion, they kinda are in some ways. Modern Catholics believe in a more metaphorical approach to the Bible than a literal translation and this is why other than attending church regularly and daily Religion class, the rest of of subjects were the exact same things that kids were learning in public school too. We even learned about evolution, if you can believe that! However, that’s also where my first questions started to come from - the inconsistencies I was seeing between religion & science class so surely that’s WHY fundies don’t want their children learning certain things, I suppose. It’s just REALLY doing kids a major disservice and I cannot even believe this is legal!
i know i allready just made a comment but in abeaka i felt hella attacked for who i was i do not recomend anyone this shcool at all
i am also gay glad they never fgured it out tho
These people somehow made math religious? Math?!
2+2= (JESUS CHRIST DIED) 4 (YOU)