I am so happy these boards exist. The thought of moding my stock board was pretty scary but I was gearing up to do it. Now with these I really feel like I can go forward. The switching options are great as well!
Alex is amazing - he's worked magic on my M.I amp, and my band-mates JSX and both sound incredible! Highly recommend his work ... and a hell of a nice bloke, too :)
Alex knowlege is a sleeper until now and used to get the 2 of you confused before I got to know you both on the Internet and both of you have done amazing things and a big fan of both of you ,guys keep it up man converese with your knowlege and hope to see more great things from both of you cheers guys !!!!!1
This is amazing. Great work! Please sell this drop in JCM800 PCB with a bag of all of the parts and pots needed to populate the board! I'd pay extra for that and buy immediately.
It comes with a BoM with all the part numbers, much cheaper for you to order in the parts yourself. Sorry but we don’t have time to hand pick parts one by one and pop them in a bag…
I bought one and was thinking the same thing. I dont even really care how much more it would cost. Knowing it is all there ready to be soldered in is worth alot. Id be fine paying 50/75 $ over the parts cost just for the convenience. If i wanted to save money id just desolder the parts from my board and follow the tutorial.
@@HeadfirstAmpscome out with something awesome like this, give a detailed parts list on what to order, instructions on how to do it all, and people still have something to complain about! Part of the ordering the parts and all of that is to learn more about the caps, resistors, pots, etc and what the values and watts are etc…people will never be happy!
Cool set up Jason! I bet your amp building is going very well every one knows about yours and thats great to see! I know that you worked very hard for that cool stuff. Take care brother.
I am surprised more pros like you and Alex don't do this more often. The power and capability of modern FREE circuit design tools (schematic, components, PCB board design, validation) makes that part straightforward for those with core design expertise. But now every firm making PCBs accepts Gerber formatted PCB design files and can produce boards for $5 to $10 a piece. With that kind of pricing and 1 week turnaround, it is economical to prototype your own design thru a few iterations, then after nailing down the design you can order a few extras for spares. And you can save the CAD design and Gerber export and use that to get a board made 20 years from now.
@@HeadfirstAmpsI was having NAD until I realised that it was my amp 😂 Awesome playing though as always! that loop is super transparent though right...? 😂
How good is the Falcon!! Tone is sweet!Its great that you can now demonstrate different types of pickups not just your typical high output gain monster Humbuckers now Jason! The Cult ripped off you know who on that song!! haha
Excellent work and fantastic idea. I will again suggest a "highly detailed" how to solder video. A video showing ALL the proper gear, how to avoid overheating joints and how to avoid cold joints. A video showing that you CANNOT use a solder pencil, you must use a proper regulated solder station with an excellent thermostat. What type of solder to use and what to avoid. How to use a vacuum solder removal tool and how to use wick to remove solder. Just my suggestion. Every amp builder thinks that "everyone has an ability to solder" and "soldering is not that hard." I think it is time for pedal companies and DIY amp companies to be honest and admit that soldering is a distinct skill set. Please do a detailed video. Thanks-----Ben
@@Scott__C My point exactly. I "learned" (term used loosely) to solder after buying over 20 pickups from TNTones. Having 11 guitars.......it was no big deal if I overheated a pot. I can't imagine overheating pots on my prized Amp. I was a nervous wreck when I first started. Take a 120+ pickup; a 20+ tone pot and a 20+ vol pot and you are talking some dollars. Let alone, your prized Amp. Hopefully the guy in the video decides to do an in depth video on solder(ing) I think it behooves him to do so; as a way to minimize "faulty claims and diy hack jobs."
@@demokraatti No, the power scaling was removed. After all the additional options, there wasn't much space left over for it... Also under 15W mode, it is a bit of a tone sucker which defeats the purpose of the original mods. There may be a future design with a better design in mind though
@@demokraatti You are still using the same transformers, with the same voltages. It won't change the power output unless you change the power transformer, or couple another mains transformer winding in series and add that winding between CN11 and CN12
50W version has an extra 120VDC on the HT supply give or take, along with a dedicated bias winding... I only had to change B+5 dropper between the 20 and 50 and they were pretty identical to me
Love the idea and I'm looking to purchase one but the PCB has been out of stock for some months now with no eta available. Hopefully they will be available soon.
@@HeadfirstAmps OK I'm confused now, I've been corresponding on the board for several weeks and was told they are sold out, in fact it says that on the website link you provided. I was told we are awaiting a reorder, perhaps I misundestood?
@@HeadfirstAmps must be a second revision of the one I tried to get previously, it is now available to order despite being on back order so I ordered one. Thanks for the video and information.
What’s deal with R43? The schematic shows 33k value for it, but it’s not listed in the BOM. Also your board doesn’t have anything there. Should I put a resistor there?
Love what you do to these Origin amps! How possible and how much would it be to do this to my Origin 20 head if I mailed it to you from the US? I'm not an amp DIYer...😅
Hate to say it but would be wayyyy cheaper to find a local tech or builder near u to do it. Not trying to take business away from Jason but shipping to and from Australia will cost more than the amp itself 😂 then another $400+ for the boards, parts, and labor
Sounds great. I don’t know why somebody would buy one of these amps in the first place. I have owned many Marshall amps and the Origin is by far the worst sounding unusable amp they make. Just buy a Studio Vintage or Studio Classic. Thank God you know how to mod these amps because stock they are nothing more than a boat anchor.
Of course u can do that but this is for the person that likes to tinker and mod stuff. Plus it sounds amazing and where u going to get an amp with tones like this if u grab one used for like $500? I just bought an Origin 50 that’s 3 months old for $200 usd and a cheap pedal for it. Then the board and parts will be around $250 so that’s less than $500 for an awesome sounding 50w amp. Plus u can say and know u did it yourself and makes it much more special
The cost of pcb, parts, etc. will still be much less than buying a JCM800, then taking it to a tech to mod and revoice, which would be around $5-6K AUD Total... still a tenth of the cost... and can be reversible if you so choose 😉
I'm betting next week you're going to do a "DIY mod board" for the Line 6 Helix? After all, Digital is superior to analog in every manner. Just being me. AND fwiw; this is a brilliant idea. I am hoping you do several videos on "populating" the board. ---Ben
Alex is an actual freak at what he does
I am so happy these boards exist. The thought of moding my stock board was pretty scary but I was gearing up to do it. Now with these I really feel like I can go forward. The switching options are great as well!
Alex is amazing - he's worked magic on my M.I amp, and my band-mates JSX and both sound incredible! Highly recommend his work ... and a hell of a nice bloke, too :)
Alex knowlege is a sleeper until now and used to get the 2 of you confused before I got to know you both on the Internet and both of you have done amazing things and a big fan of both of you ,guys keep it up man converese with your knowlege and hope to see more great things from both of you cheers guys !!!!!1
This is as good of an idea as the online classes I still think you should start doing, at some point, Jason. Brilliant!
Jason, you’re the best. Thanks for all the info you’ve put out on these Origins. Doing the Rock God’s work for the Marshall enthusiasts!
Thanks!
This is amazing. Great work!
Please sell this drop in JCM800 PCB with a bag of all of the parts and pots needed to populate the board!
I'd pay extra for that and buy immediately.
I think that would be an attractive offering. I'd grab one of those as well.
I second that!!
It comes with a BoM with all the part numbers, much cheaper for you to order in the parts yourself. Sorry but we don’t have time to hand pick parts one by one and pop them in a bag…
I bought one and was thinking the same thing. I dont even really care how much more it would cost. Knowing it is all there ready to be soldered in is worth alot. Id be fine paying 50/75 $ over the parts cost just for the convenience. If i wanted to save money id just desolder the parts from my board and follow the tutorial.
@@HeadfirstAmpscome out with something awesome like this, give a detailed parts list on what to order, instructions on how to do it all, and people still have something to complain about! Part of the ordering the parts and all of that is to learn more about the caps, resistors, pots, etc and what the values and watts are etc…people will never be happy!
We need more of these PCBs! Great job you guys!
Awesome tones man! Congrats to Alex on these boards. 🤘🤘🤘
The mad man finally did it
That's epic, Auzzy ingenuity!
Cool set up Jason! I bet your amp building is going very well every one knows about yours and thats great to see! I know that you worked very hard for that cool stuff. Take care brother.
I am surprised more pros like you and Alex don't do this more often. The power and capability of modern FREE circuit design tools (schematic, components, PCB board design, validation) makes that part straightforward for those with core design expertise. But now every firm making PCBs accepts Gerber formatted PCB design files and can produce boards for $5 to $10 a piece. With that kind of pricing and 1 week turnaround, it is economical to prototype your own design thru a few iterations, then after nailing down the design you can order a few extras for spares. And you can save the CAD design and Gerber export and use that to get a board made 20 years from now.
Great work Alex. Someone has a new Gretch!!
Sounds ok doesn’t it!
@@HeadfirstAmpsI was having NAD until I realised that it was my amp 😂 Awesome playing though as always! that loop is super transparent though right...? 😂
I liked the playing just as much as the amp!
Simply brilliant. I'm impressed as hell.
Good for you! I'm glad to see this. It may inspire me to grab an origin one day. Pretty friggin cool!
Brilliant video - Thanks Jason❗
Great sounds, great playing. Thanks.
Excellent , why wouldn't You make it better. I love modding
Alex is an incredibly talented man, I own one of his amps ànd I love it!
Great sounds from a number of videos I've watched. 8) What type of speakers are you running through?
Ingenious. Sounds wonderful.
Nothing like a little but of the Cult to start my day!
The only thing missing is a decal with the number '8' that you can put in front of the number 20 so the logo that reads Origin 20 reads Origin 820, 😇
Cool!
How good is the Falcon!! Tone is sweet!Its great that you can now demonstrate different types of pickups not just your typical high output gain monster Humbuckers now Jason! The Cult ripped off you know who on that song!! haha
Rock ‘n’ Roll Singer!!
I already used one of your drop in boards, the jj junior board 😁Well, guess I have to get another Origin.
Excellent work and fantastic idea. I will again suggest a "highly detailed" how to solder video. A video showing ALL the proper gear, how to avoid overheating joints and how to avoid cold joints. A video showing that you CANNOT use a solder pencil, you must use a proper regulated solder station with an excellent thermostat. What type of solder to use and what to avoid. How to use a vacuum solder removal tool and how to use wick to remove solder. Just my suggestion. Every amp builder thinks that "everyone has an ability to solder" and "soldering is not that hard." I think it is time for pedal companies and DIY amp companies to be honest and admit that soldering is a distinct skill set. Please do a detailed video. Thanks-----Ben
Yes, I know how to solder, but soldering a cable and soldering a tiny spot on a PCB with traces are two different things.
@@Scott__C My point exactly. I "learned" (term used loosely) to solder after buying over 20 pickups from TNTones. Having 11 guitars.......it was no big deal if I overheated a pot. I can't imagine overheating pots on my prized Amp. I was a nervous wreck when I first started. Take a 120+ pickup; a 20+ tone pot and a 20+ vol pot and you are talking some dollars. Let alone, your prized Amp. Hopefully the guy in the video decides to do an in depth video on solder(ing) I think it behooves him to do so; as a way to minimize "faulty claims and diy hack jobs."
@@benburnett8109 The good thing with a small company like that is they'll know if someone was in there and really messed stuff up.
Amazing idea. This is exactly how an electric guitar is supposed to sound. I would change nothing to that sound.
I'm pretty sure that was me that suggested that... although, I can't believe I was the only one!
Yeah...you actually wrote back to me..!
Nice work Jase (and Alex!)... sorted.
How's that Gretsch!!!
great video
is it possible to modify an amp like this for bass?
i already bought this one for guitar
What an awesome idea! Did I miss a link to the bill of materials? I see that the boards are $150. Wonder how much the components add up to...
So the components are included or you have to buy all the components as well?
This is just the PCB, with BoM, schematic and wiring layout diagram.
great idea! the price is a bit steep for me though, especially compared to the other evolve diy project boards.
Finally! Nice work fellas. The board is labeled 20\50. I assume this will fit either amp then? Ordering!
direct drop in for both 20W and 50W
@@siriusamplificationWill the new board retain the original power rating for both versions?
@@demokraatti No, the power scaling was removed. After all the additional options, there wasn't much space left over for it... Also under 15W mode, it is a bit of a tone sucker which defeats the purpose of the original mods. There may be a future design with a better design in mind though
@@siriusamplification Will your board change the full power either 20 or 50 watt version makes?
@@demokraatti You are still using the same transformers, with the same voltages. It won't change the power output unless you change the power transformer, or couple another mains transformer winding in series and add that winding between CN11 and CN12
Is there any difference in tone between 20 and 50 watt versions? If they use the same board, what makes the difference in power?
50W version has an extra 120VDC on the HT supply give or take, along with a dedicated bias winding... I only had to change B+5 dropper between the 20 and 50 and they were pretty identical to me
are they going to make an Origin 50 version? or could it be modded to drop in?
Love the idea and I'm looking to purchase one but the PCB has been out of stock for some months now with no eta available. Hopefully they will be available soon.
They were only released 2 days ago, new stock is arriving in a couple of days.
@@HeadfirstAmps OK I'm confused now, I've been corresponding on the board for several weeks and was told they are sold out, in fact it says that on the website link you provided. I was told we are awaiting a reorder, perhaps I misundestood?
@nigeltrueman5931 which board are you talking about? This one was only released a few days ago.
@@HeadfirstAmps must be a second revision of the one I tried to get previously, it is now available to order despite being on back order so I ordered one. Thanks for the video and information.
What’s deal with R43? The schematic shows 33k value for it, but it’s not listed in the BOM. Also your board doesn’t have anything there. Should I put a resistor there?
It is for the bias on the 50W
@ Ok, thanks.
G'day, what speakers are you playing through? Sounds really good 👍
G12M Greenback
This is absolutely genius - origin prices will increase on the second hand market 😅
How much would all the components cost to do this? Just a rough estimate…
I got about halfway through the BoM and was at $110.
Love what you do to these Origin amps! How possible and how much would it be to do this to my Origin 20 head if I mailed it to you from the US? I'm not an amp DIYer...😅
Hate to say it but would be wayyyy cheaper to find a local tech or builder near u to do it. Not trying to take business away from Jason but shipping to and from Australia will cost more than the amp itself 😂 then another $400+ for the boards, parts, and labor
what pickups were in the gold les paul?
Suhr Thornbuckers. 50mm standard set.
Can you please do this with the DSL1?
would need more info about the board dimensions but sure
Is fx loop still fonctional on this??
The board has a brand new loop built in
@HeadfirstAmps great, thank you
I see you're sold out, congrats! When will more be available?
They are now available for back order. New stock arriving mid next week, and will be allocated based on order date/time. Thanks!
Where's the Plexi version?
Sounds great. I don’t know why somebody would buy one of these amps in the first place. I have owned many Marshall amps and the Origin is by far the worst sounding unusable amp they make. Just buy a Studio Vintage or Studio Classic. Thank God you know how to mod these amps because stock they are nothing more than a boat anchor.
🎉
SCHEMATIC AVAILABILITY ?
Like all the Evolve stuff you get a link to all the documents for the entire store upon purchase.
Wish I could buy a "pre-populated" one that is literally plug and play. Not sure I trust my soldering skills enough just yet to do this. :(
The Headfirst/evolve boards are very forgiving compared to others I've used.
COUNT ME IN ... CAN I MOVE THE STOCK POTS TO THE NEW PCB ?
Some of them you could - eg tone stack, master vol and presence
Cool but the cost of PCBs, parts and time takes, aren't you better off just buying a better amp?
Of course u can do that but this is for the person that likes to tinker and mod stuff. Plus it sounds amazing and where u going to get an amp with tones like this if u grab one used for like $500? I just bought an Origin 50 that’s 3 months old for $200 usd and a cheap pedal for it. Then the board and parts will be around $250 so that’s less than $500 for an awesome sounding 50w amp. Plus u can say and know u did it yourself and makes it much more special
The cost of pcb, parts, etc. will still be much less than buying a JCM800, then taking it to a tech to mod and revoice, which would be around $5-6K AUD Total... still a tenth of the cost... and can be reversible if you so choose 😉
Oh man and i just got an origin..... hmm
4 years ago? You and Alex should get a cut off the sales of the origins
I'm betting next week you're going to do a "DIY mod board" for the Line 6 Helix? After all, Digital is superior to analog in every manner.
Just being me. AND fwiw; this is a brilliant idea. I am hoping you do several videos on "populating" the board.
---Ben
😂