As others pointed out, the being in Multiverse of Madness is actually Gargantos, not Shuma-Gorath. It's a mostly-forgotten enemy/villain, but the irony is that it literally looks more like Shuma-Gorath than Gargantos, so I really hope they had a good explanation for this (my theory could be that Shuma himself sent Gargantos, only powered up with chaos/cancerverse power). Also, another fun fact about Shuma Gorath's power levels: If he enters a dimension wrong, it gets destroyed.
Marvel doesn't own the name shuma gorath, the conan ppl do, so they used the name gargantos to avoid copyright issues. Gargantos was originally a villian of namor
Its easy to forget, but Marvel has included Conan the Barbarian for half of his existence and is completely, legitimately Lovecraftian from way before it was cool.
@@AngelusNielson I didn't know either were in actual books. Thanks. Learn something new every day. Um... any title comes to mind so I can possibly read them? I might never get around to leaving them, adult-level time and I have literally dozens of books sitting here on my "to read" pile.
Victor Chong we already got a fucking starfish with a big eye. Big eye monsters are boring. I prefer villain's with humanoid appearances and some sort of relatability. I can't relate to a fucking to a squid.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 hes unique in a way, he has an attack that dcan grab you and blow up for a tonm of damage. his wmovement speed is slow af tho so players had to jump often with him haha
@@VChong1991 Yes that's great he was a super cheat for a video game. He sucks as a super villain in a movie. Safe to say the best of the MCU is behind them.
@@VChong1991 Sounds like one eyed alien demons are lame worthless shit fucking villain's. I'm a human. I don't give a shit about H.P. Lovecraft rip off monsters.
Shuma Gorath has yet to appear in any MCU content (animated or otherwise). While similar entities have been shown (including the Multiverse of Madness trailer), none have been confirmed as the actual character, and the ease at which such creatures have been defeated hints more at them being from the same dimension as the GotG 2 intro monster than the all-powerful being that this video describes.
Like most of the MCU villains, if Shuma is included he will be be heavily nerfed. Either that or some magical Shenanigans like what happened with Dormamu will get Strange and Wanda out of trouble.
It has been confirmed that he cant be called shuma gorath in the movie b/c marvel doesn't own the rights to the character. Whoever made conan the barbarian owns the character, so they are using the name gargantos (old school namor villian) to stop copyright issues.
@@joshwalton25 there are a couple characters that marvel refuse to pay for. Like the character Rom from guardian of the galaxy comics. He wont be in the film series b/c of copyright issues. We also dont know how much the conan creators wanted
@@randomheraldofnurgle1284 well remember that Shuma-Gorath is able to project smaller versions of himself too. They’re smarter than that, so if it was, I’m sure it wouldn’t have been THE Shuma-Gorath.
It has not been confirmed that Shuma-Gorath is in the MCU/What If?/MoM movie but leaning toward it being Gargantos as reported by leaked and official Lego website. My hope is still strong he will appear soon though 😔
I’m just surprised nobody has called out the original name of this H.P. Lovecraft creation as well has Lovecrafts early spotty history. I love the work it’s just interesting to me in this day and age.
Awesome video, very thorough. Hope there’s good use of shuma gorath in the movies, and not just as some vague apocalyptic entity, but distinctly horrifying and lovecraftian
It might have been people on that bus that whatshisname threw ....maybe that's why strange went down the middle of the bus instead of just destroying the whole thing...? If so...that would be so epic of strange to think and react that quick with the right spell...and it would solidify whatshisname as a complete chaotic badass
I didn’t even know this dude existed until MvC2 and even then I thought he was some Capcom random. When I eventually did my research I was just trying to figure out how and why he wasn’t at least the mini-boss to Abyss.
OK. This is an old man calling Bullshit. on your break down .I started reading comic books in the '60s. mostly because ,i watched the "Marvel Super Heroes" cartoons on TV after school. The animation was just shots of the comic book panels , with narration and sound effects , but at 62 I still remember the the theme songs. Monday ,was Captain America, ("when Captain America Throws his mighty Shield" . Tuesday was "The Hulk" ' Doctor Banner ,blasted By Gamma rays, turns into the hulk". Iron man was Wednesday ,Thor was Thursday and the sub mariner was Friday( I guess to to be inclusive of Catholics ,who ate fish on Friday.. And one day I was walking to school on "Garbage Day "and saw a 1 foot high stack of comics ,bound with twine on top of a garbage can ,and I became a 3rd grade garbage picker. When I went back home ,after school ,I showed my big brother what I "found". WE could read, but then we started" reading' one day I asked my big brother what "Excelsior" meant, he said "go look it up in the dictionary" .When we started splitting our allowance between movies on the week end and comic books, he bought what he liked I bought what I liked and we would swap. One of the books we both liked was "Doctor Strange". It got canceled . but when it was revived in The "Marvel Premier" book I snatched it up .When The Shuma Gorath ,story line started ,it took a year to resolve. Do you know how long a year is to a 11 and 12 YO kid s is ? it's like waiting for next Christmas. I still remember the panels from the second issue drawn by Barry Smith ( first illustrator of Conan the Barbarian),where the guy got Strange and Wong involved to look for his girlfriend ,who went back to her Massachusetts hometown which she disparaged as "Ancient and inbreed "she avoided looking at him ,but when he grabbed her to look in his face ,she had a lightly scaled face ,an a slightly, forked tongue. the dialogue bubble had her saying "Are You Ssstisfied?" She and the entire town were descendants of of Howards and Lovecraft's "Serpent People" ,and she had came of age.. Now Disney and Capcom have turned a great old one ,into a video game villain with no background? Make that make sense. Go watch "Under Water". That's true horror.
So when I was reading comics I remember during the infinity gauntlet there was all the cosmic entities came together and two of them were master order and lowered chaos the embodiments of chaos in order So as humigoras as an embodiment of chaos more powerful than Lord Chaos? Is Lord Chaos just like an aspect of Chaos in the 616 universe or each Marvel Universe and sumac or authors like chaos along all the Multiverse that's what it seems but I don't know I was wondering
Lord Chaos, like the other cosmic abstracts (Master Order, Eternity, Infinity, etc.), exists in every Marvel universe but they are just a shard of their original being so a Multiversal Lord Chaos is a lot more powerful than what you saw in Infinity Gauntlet. Shuma-Gorath exists outside of time and most planes of existence so he is stronger than a universal Lord Chaos but not the multiversal kind. I hope that's not confusing.
@@NukeA6 I think I get it! I had stopped reading right around after infinity War but before infinity Crusade, I had never really lost interest in comics but I sorta moved onto girls you know hormones and all that LOL. So I fear there are parts of the continuity and retcons and stuff that I missed-- (like whatever the hell they did to the Beyonders to make them mightier than The One Above All! Last I read, the Secret Wars Beyonder had been nerfed and he wasn't even related to the group of interdimensional beings also called the Beyonders but then God King Doom happened snd I was like, "WTF?!") So, if I understand you correctly, the abstracts that I saw in The Infinity Gauntlet where the anthropomorphic personifications for only the 616 Marvel Universe. But since the Marvel universe is actually a Marvel Multiverse, each Universe in the Multiverse has its own set of abstracts-- and then the Multiverse itself has its own set of Multiverse tier abstracts? And Shuma gorath would be more powerful than a Universe tier Lord Chaos-- like, say, the one from the 616 Universe. But Multiverse tier lord Chaos would be stronger than shuma-gorath.? That's what I got from what you said, but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers 🙂
The true Master of Chaos itself is Arch Angel Michael... Chaos Embued with the Holy Fire of God defeated Chluthulu w a Holy version of itself 🤣🤣🤣✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💯💯💯😎
I do think Marvel scaled down Shuma Gorath powers for MCU (or at least for the film) in order to makes sense and fit the story. If it’s some other creature or Gargantos, then it’s kind of missed opportunity imo. They could combine two characters into one and just call it “Gargantos” but idk. We’ll see.
Actually they (there's like seven of them) are called the oghdru Jahaad or something like that. They are the seven gods of chaos and progenitors of all monsters in the Hellboy verse
Shumagorath is Doormammu's boss... Dr strange couldn't out right beat down doormammu because he was too strong...so he had to trick him. Strange supreme out right beat and absorbed shumagorath after he powered up... without being clever and having to strategized. *Dr strange vs Strange Supreme is about to be lit af*
i highly doubt Strange supreme out right beat and absorbed shuma Gorath, maybe one of the lesser Many angled ones. Shuma Gorath is not the only Many angled one that looks like that, he's the most powerful one.
@@gabnel1000 sorry to tell you this but Dr. Strange never beat Shumagorth in his chaos Dimension. And Dr. Strange only fought a small portion of his power lol! READ MORE COMIC'S PLEASE!
Why is it that uber-powerful forces of chaos are non-chaotic enough to have limits such as a name, a fairly common form, and plot-related power levels? Also, why are they always doing a really solid simple plan instead of just being all chaos (random)? I mean, an epic level anything of chaos would not even fight the enemies of chaos... they'd just be doing something random... unless that epic anything of chaos is not actually chaos itself but something or someone that is obsessed with making reality burn. At least The Joker, a chaos guy, makes sense. He's actually very focused on what he does, which is why he's so intelligent... but he's evil to the core and is mainly focused on both being very entertained and being a BBE showman.
@@XanKreigor Chaos is a core factor to chaos. Chaos is the absence of order and often the bane of structure, closely linked to entropy. Nobody yet has ever imagined an actually chaotic uber-powerful bringer of chaos or champion of it... they may be very good at creating chaos but are almost always very structured and or focused on doing it... not very chaotic within their own being.
Yall uave to know this is NOT shuma! Hell the leaked toy issue along with the t shirts all said GARGANTOS! if this is shuma its arguably the biggest case of false advertising ever!!!
Well, damn. A spoiler warning for Spider-Man would have been nice instead of just plowing right into it... 🤬 Otherwise, great video. Except that in MoM, that's not Shuma-Gorath in the bus scene, rather it's Gargantos. Or at least it's supposed to be, going by the Lego set of the same scene...
Spoilers to the new spiderman movie is in this one if you don't want it to get it spoiled like me. Super disappointed that they didn't put a disclaimer 👎🏾
There’s nothing conclusive from either the MoM trailer or What If series to state that the tentacles/monsters shown are the actual Shuma-Gorath. The monster in the trailer has an eye on the bottom of it’s body, instead of centrally located between the tentacles. There’s more reason to believe that creature is Gargantos. Maybe the MCU will have the creature be a minion or avatar of S-G.
MCU CAN'T be 616. The characters in the movie verse are way too far from their comic counterpart to consider this reality a live action version of the main universe. MCU feels more like the ultimates universe.
They don't go anywhere near the comics in the MCU It sucks but has nothing to do with which universe its meant to be Those doing the movies never read comics
@@SantaPorter420 I agree. There just is a large sentiment of live action representation being taken as the standard and not a solo portrayal in itself.n lots of fights of actual character with comic fans from movie watchers
@@SkinnyRob Instead we get fools like snyder saying "I read the graphic novel" And even bigger fools reading Wikipedia to try and argue about characters they've never read Just annoying
@@tiredox3788 thanks I've heard that a few different times, this is the only video that says it's shuma throwing the bus. Now who strange channels when he gets all tentacley ? That may or may not be him but the thing throwing buses isn't the shuma gorath
@@Fortjul The tentacles that Strange took was Shuma, but he didn't took all of his power. He took little bits of it, because Shuma is way bigger than the tentacles you seen in What if. Because in the comics he's bigger than a universe
Well, in the MCU most characters are not as strong as their comic book counterparts. So it could easily be Shuma Gorath…just weaker in order to fit MCU.
Kevin Feige: Hmmmm....I see James Gunn used a one-eyed character in The Suicide Squad. I think I'll use one in the next Doctor Strange movie 🎬, but better 😁.
Marvel is turning into crap I'm over this garbage all of it garbage only xmen is good and Deadpool I am not gonna name each movie ill just say they all are ridiculous and not good at all and I hope they fail and plummet into oblivion
The Greeks had eye balls with tentacles that shoot laser beams in stories 1000s of years before love craft was born…. It’s not lovecraftian, over rated piece of sht HP didn’t come up with a single concept that wasn’t already in mythology 1000s of years before he was born
The concept Lovecraft defined wasn't just *"big eyeball with tentacles"* That concept was *"ancient alien eldritch gods"* which is basically what Shuma is. Shuma and his kin was even occasionally called the Great Old Ones, which is a certain pantheon of deities in Lovecraft's stories.
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As others pointed out, the being in Multiverse of Madness is actually Gargantos, not Shuma-Gorath. It's a mostly-forgotten enemy/villain, but the irony is that it literally looks more like Shuma-Gorath than Gargantos, so I really hope they had a good explanation for this (my theory could be that Shuma himself sent Gargantos, only powered up with chaos/cancerverse power).
Also, another fun fact about Shuma Gorath's power levels: If he enters a dimension wrong, it gets destroyed.
Marvel doesn't own the name shuma gorath, the conan ppl do, so they used the name gargantos to avoid copyright issues. Gargantos was originally a villian of namor
Its easy to forget, but Marvel has included Conan the Barbarian for half of his existence and is completely, legitimately Lovecraftian from way before it was cool.
ok and…
Strangely enough, most Conan and Red Sonya fans don't know they are Marvel characters.
@@That80sGuy1972 To be fair, they were books WAY before they were comics.
@@AngelusNielson I didn't know either were in actual books. Thanks. Learn something new every day. Um... any title comes to mind so I can possibly read them? I might never get around to leaving them, adult-level time and I have literally dozens of books sitting here on my "to read" pile.
@@That80sGuy1972 Sarcasm is not the same thing as wit. you are aware of that, right?
how many of us know him because of Marvel Super Heroes by capcom?
Was about to post something similar! He was a beast in it.
Me
Such an underrated villain. I remember playing as him in the old marvel vs capcom games.
Victor Chong we already got a fucking starfish with a big eye. Big eye monsters are boring. I prefer villain's with humanoid appearances and some sort of relatability. I can't relate to a fucking to a squid.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 hes unique in a way, he has an attack that dcan grab you and blow up for a tonm of damage. his wmovement speed is slow af tho so players had to jump often with him haha
@@VChong1991 Yes that's great he was a super cheat for a video game. He sucks as a super villain in a movie. Safe to say the best of the MCU is behind them.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 sounded like you have personal issues with him as a character
@@VChong1991 Sounds like one eyed alien demons are lame worthless shit fucking villain's. I'm a human. I don't give a shit about H.P. Lovecraft rip off monsters.
Shuma Gorath has yet to appear in any MCU content (animated or otherwise). While similar entities have been shown (including the Multiverse of Madness trailer), none have been confirmed as the actual character, and the ease at which such creatures have been defeated hints more at them being from the same dimension as the GotG 2 intro monster than the all-powerful being that this video describes.
We will see!
Like most of the MCU villains, if Shuma is included he will be be heavily nerfed. Either that or some magical Shenanigans like what happened with Dormamu will get Strange and Wanda out of trouble.
It has been confirmed that he cant be called shuma gorath in the movie b/c marvel doesn't own the rights to the character. Whoever made conan the barbarian owns the character, so they are using the name gargantos (old school namor villian) to stop copyright issues.
@@krysis54 I'm surprised that Marvel either can't or wouldn't cough up enough cash to get the Conan creator to let Marvel use the name.
@@joshwalton25 there are a couple characters that marvel refuse to pay for. Like the character Rom from guardian of the galaxy comics. He wont be in the film series b/c of copyright issues. We also dont know how much the conan creators wanted
The monster in the new Doctor Strange trailer is "Gargantos" not Shuma-Gorath
The absolute irony being that it literally looks more like Shuma-Gorath than Gargantos in almost every way.
@@frisbyart if it were Shuma-Gorath i'd be mightily disappointed, as it's tiny.
@@randomheraldofnurgle1284 well remember that Shuma-Gorath is able to project smaller versions of himself too. They’re smarter than that, so if it was, I’m sure it wouldn’t have been THE Shuma-Gorath.
It actually is shuma gorath but marvel doesn't own the name so they used the name gargantos
@@krysis54Marvel doesn't own the name? How?
Having an eye poke through a dimension is far more terrifying than tentacles peeking through.
What about... other ...enormous dangly body parts?
@@woadblue
Dormammu whips it out
😱😱😱😱😱
Please. DCs „Empty Hand“ explained. DCs Omnipotent Omniversal Evil God
It has not been confirmed that Shuma-Gorath is in the MCU/What If?/MoM movie but leaning toward it being Gargantos as reported by leaked and official Lego website. My hope is still strong he will appear soon though 😔
I’m just surprised nobody has called out the original name of this H.P. Lovecraft creation as well has Lovecrafts early spotty history. I love the work it’s just interesting to me in this day and age.
Waste of flesh!!! I was introduced to shuma gorath in the fighting video game, Marvel Super Heroes, and later the marvel vs capcom series.
Me too. I am wondering what is his official colour? Purple? Or green?
Doctor Strange the Multiverse of Madness has so much lore thank you Marvelous Videos. 🐙
Awesome video, very thorough. Hope there’s good use of shuma gorath in the movies, and not just as some vague apocalyptic entity, but distinctly horrifying and lovecraftian
XD
It might have been people on that bus that whatshisname threw ....maybe that's why strange went down the middle of the bus instead of just destroying the whole thing...? If so...that would be so epic of strange to think and react that quick with the right spell...and it would solidify whatshisname as a complete chaotic badass
I liked the video, but I liked the music that played throughout even more.
do you know what is the song playing at 11 minute?
Lovecraft is like a fishing lure to me.
Make more videos like this on lore these are awesome!
My goat wish they did more with him
Sadly that's not Shuma in Multiverse of Madness. That's Gargantos, another one eyed tentacle monster in Marvel.
@Agent B1ack Marvel confirmed it's Gargantos because they don't have the rights to any of the Conan stuff for film.
@@MoteofLobross they just used the name. The real shuma fans know who it is
I didn’t even know this dude existed until MvC2 and even then I thought he was some Capcom random. When I eventually did my research I was just trying to figure out how and why he wasn’t at least the mini-boss to Abyss.
OK. This is an old man calling Bullshit. on your break down .I started reading comic books in the '60s. mostly because ,i watched the "Marvel Super Heroes" cartoons on TV after school. The animation was just shots of the comic book panels , with narration and sound effects , but at 62 I still remember the the theme songs. Monday ,was Captain America, ("when Captain America Throws his mighty Shield" . Tuesday was "The Hulk" ' Doctor Banner ,blasted By Gamma rays, turns into the hulk". Iron man was Wednesday ,Thor was Thursday and the sub mariner was Friday( I guess to to be inclusive of Catholics ,who ate fish on Friday.. And one day I was walking to school on "Garbage Day "and saw a 1 foot high stack of comics ,bound with twine on top of a garbage can ,and I became a 3rd grade garbage picker. When I went back home ,after school ,I showed my big brother what I "found". WE could read, but then we started" reading' one day I asked my big brother what "Excelsior" meant, he said "go look it up in the dictionary" .When we started splitting our allowance between movies on the week end and comic books, he bought what he liked I bought what I liked and we would swap. One of the books we both liked was "Doctor Strange". It got canceled . but when it was revived in The "Marvel Premier" book I snatched it up .When The Shuma Gorath ,story line started ,it took a year to resolve. Do you know how long a year is to a 11 and 12 YO kid s is ? it's like waiting for next Christmas. I still remember the panels from the second issue drawn by Barry Smith ( first illustrator of Conan the Barbarian),where the guy got Strange and Wong involved to look for his girlfriend ,who went back to her Massachusetts hometown which she disparaged as "Ancient and inbreed "she avoided looking at him ,but when he grabbed her to look in his face ,she had a lightly scaled face ,an a slightly, forked tongue. the dialogue bubble had her saying "Are You Ssstisfied?" She and the entire town were descendants of of Howards and Lovecraft's "Serpent People" ,and she had came of age.. Now Disney and Capcom have turned a great old one ,into a video game villain with no background? Make that make sense. Go watch "Under Water". That's true horror.
So when I was reading comics I remember during the infinity gauntlet there was all the cosmic entities came together and two of them were master order and lowered chaos the embodiments of chaos in order So as humigoras as an embodiment of chaos more powerful than Lord Chaos? Is Lord Chaos just like an aspect of Chaos in the 616 universe or each Marvel Universe and sumac or authors like chaos along all the Multiverse that's what it seems but I don't know I was wondering
Lord Chaos, like the other cosmic abstracts (Master Order, Eternity, Infinity, etc.), exists in every Marvel universe but they are just a shard of their original being so a Multiversal Lord Chaos is a lot more powerful than what you saw in Infinity Gauntlet. Shuma-Gorath exists outside of time and most planes of existence so he is stronger than a universal Lord Chaos but not the multiversal kind. I hope that's not confusing.
@@NukeA6 I think I get it! I had stopped reading right around after infinity War but before infinity Crusade, I had never really lost interest in comics but I sorta moved onto girls you know hormones and all that LOL. So I fear there are parts of the continuity and retcons and stuff that I missed-- (like whatever the hell they did to the Beyonders to make them mightier than The One Above All! Last I read, the Secret Wars Beyonder had been nerfed and he wasn't even related to the group of interdimensional beings also called the Beyonders but then God King Doom happened snd I was like, "WTF?!")
So, if I understand you correctly, the abstracts that I saw in The Infinity Gauntlet where the anthropomorphic personifications for only the 616 Marvel Universe. But since the Marvel universe is actually a Marvel Multiverse, each Universe in the Multiverse has its own set of abstracts-- and then the Multiverse itself has its own set of Multiverse tier abstracts?
And Shuma gorath would be more powerful than a Universe tier Lord Chaos-- like, say, the one from the 616 Universe. But Multiverse tier lord Chaos would be stronger than shuma-gorath.?
That's what I got from what you said, but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers 🙂
@@munstrumridcully You got it.
The true Master of Chaos itself is Arch Angel Michael... Chaos Embued with the Holy Fire of God defeated Chluthulu w a Holy version of itself 🤣🤣🤣✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💯💯💯😎
Its duality when there are multiple energy types....like Zeus and Thor etc...
From the time that marvel could tell great stories!
I was surprised that Shuma Gorath is now gonna come out in the new Dr. Strange movie!
One of my favorite villains
AWESOME
Now I feel like buying the first issue of the Doctor Strange comic (But as a reprint. Original would probably be 'n bit expensive)
I was wondering where hell Shuman gorath came from
I do think Marvel scaled down Shuma Gorath powers for MCU (or at least for the film) in order to makes sense and fit the story. If it’s some other creature or Gargantos, then it’s kind of missed opportunity imo. They could combine two characters into one and just call it “Gargantos” but idk. We’ll see.
They scale down everyone in the mcu
That don't have to just have that shuma was not able to take as much of his powers for some reason thistime
@@chrollo4836 lulz they sure didn't scale down captain marvel all that much
So the character well the name originate from Robert E Howard
I realize now in the first hellboy it was shumah gorath that was the entity coming through the portal. Makes sense lol
Was it?..
Actually they (there's like seven of them) are called the oghdru Jahaad or something like that. They are the seven gods of chaos and progenitors of all monsters in the Hellboy verse
@@benjeesilv1596
ogdru Jahad
Shit I didn't think I'd see any actual hellboy fans on here
The MCU is designated as Earth-199999. It's completely separate from the 616 continuity of the comics.
I used to always use shuma gorath in marvel vs capcom
I had no idea he was from doctor strange
Shumagorath is Doormammu's boss...
Dr strange couldn't out right beat down doormammu because he was too strong...so he had to trick him.
Strange supreme out right beat and absorbed shumagorath after he powered up... without being clever and having to strategized.
*Dr strange vs Strange Supreme is about to be lit af*
i highly doubt Strange supreme out right beat and absorbed shuma Gorath, maybe one of the lesser Many angled ones. Shuma Gorath is not the only Many angled one that looks like that, he's the most powerful one.
@@gabnel1000 sorry to tell you this but Dr. Strange never beat Shumagorth in his chaos Dimension. And Dr. Strange only fought a small portion of his power lol! READ MORE COMIC'S PLEASE!
@@darthlobo1213 Lmao he was basically agreeing with you. You should've directed that comment towards the OP
@@dmin5782 I thought I did!
@@darthlobo1213 you need to reread my comment cause your reply is way off
More!!!
You'll find that's gargantos in the doctor strange video due to merch leaks 😉
Why is it that uber-powerful forces of chaos are non-chaotic enough to have limits such as a name, a fairly common form, and plot-related power levels? Also, why are they always doing a really solid simple plan instead of just being all chaos (random)? I mean, an epic level anything of chaos would not even fight the enemies of chaos... they'd just be doing something random... unless that epic anything of chaos is not actually chaos itself but something or someone that is obsessed with making reality burn.
At least The Joker, a chaos guy, makes sense. He's actually very focused on what he does, which is why he's so intelligent... but he's evil to the core and is mainly focused on both being very entertained and being a BBE showman.
Chaos isn't just randomness.
@@XanKreigor Chaos is a core factor to chaos. Chaos is the absence of order and often the bane of structure, closely linked to entropy. Nobody yet has ever imagined an actually chaotic uber-powerful bringer of chaos or champion of it... they may be very good at creating chaos but are almost always very structured and or focused on doing it... not very chaotic within their own being.
The tentacle monster in the Dr. Strange trailer has been revealed to be Gargantos, not Shuma-Gorath. Same is for the monster in "What If?"
The monster in the trailer of motm is gargantos confirmed by lego set
19:25 Would have been nice
reality is the disappointment we got with
Dr Strange: MOM
of the M-she-U
I'll take Professor Chaos
you made a big mistake, you said the MCU is earth 616, no the MCU and the associated comics to the MCU are all earth 199999 and not 616
Yall uave to know this is NOT shuma! Hell the leaked toy issue along with the t shirts all said GARGANTOS! if this is shuma its arguably the biggest case of false advertising ever!!!
Well, damn. A spoiler warning for Spider-Man would have been nice instead of just plowing right into it... 🤬
Otherwise, great video. Except that in MoM, that's not Shuma-Gorath in the bus scene, rather it's Gargantos. Or at least it's supposed to be, going by the Lego set of the same scene...
We won’t know for sure if it’s Gargantos until we watch the movie. Lego sets aren’t always on point.
Spoilers to the new spiderman movie is in this one if you don't want it to get it spoiled like me.
Super disappointed that they didn't put a disclaimer 👎🏾
Gargantos/Shuma Gorath, same thing :-)
The one that appears on the trailer is gargantos not shuma gorath
whats up with the kree ? they look human and alien, and they somehow spawned a kryptonian esque character captain mar vel.
There’s nothing conclusive from either the MoM trailer or What If series to state that the tentacles/monsters shown are the actual Shuma-Gorath.
The monster in the trailer has an eye on the bottom of it’s body, instead of centrally located between the tentacles. There’s more reason to believe that creature is Gargantos. Maybe the MCU will have the creature be a minion or avatar of S-G.
Powerful being across the marvel Muitiverse # Muitiverse
Dr Strange: Tentacle Zone. NSFW.
0:39 does anyone know what comic this is from???
Invaders Now #5
I think that souma gorath is not in either doctor strange maltivise or what if
I don’t think the MCU is a part of 616 tho lol
Not Shuma Gorath in the trailer
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Is he from the same lineage of Set, or even older?
he is older and no is not the same type of elder god like set who was born on earth.
MCU CAN'T be 616.
The characters in the movie verse are way too far from their comic counterpart to consider this reality a live action version of the main universe. MCU feels more like the ultimates universe.
They don't go anywhere near the comics in the MCU
It sucks but has nothing to do with which universe its meant to be
Those doing the movies never read comics
@@SantaPorter420 I agree. There just is a large sentiment of live action representation being taken as the standard and not a solo portrayal in itself.n lots of fights of actual character with comic fans from movie watchers
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Instead we get fools like snyder saying "I read the graphic novel"
And even bigger fools reading Wikipedia to try and argue about characters they've never read
Just annoying
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Another MV video? Playback speed 1.5x
I thought thats not shuma but some other monster
It is
@@tiredox3788 I see
@@Fortjul I meant its not Shuma but another being.
@@tiredox3788 thanks I've heard that a few different times, this is the only video that says it's shuma throwing the bus. Now who strange channels when he gets all tentacley ? That may or may not be him but the thing throwing buses isn't the shuma gorath
@@Fortjul The tentacles that Strange took was Shuma, but he didn't took all of his power. He took little bits of it, because Shuma is way bigger than the tentacles you seen in What if. Because in the comics he's bigger than a universe
The MCU is earth 199999 not 616 that is the main line comic earth
Personally it's just marvels vergen of that starfish creatur out of suicide squod
Starro was around longer before Shuma Gorath.
the one in the marvel cinematic doctor strange is probably not shuma gorath, too weak to be it to be honest
yeah, i think it was one of the lesser Many angled ones not Shuman Gorath himself.
Well, in the MCU most characters are not as strong as their comic book counterparts. So it could easily be Shuma Gorath…just weaker in order to fit MCU.
@@goldenbojack619 that will make me sad
for the love of all that is good we really dont want a marvel version of fucking starro
One is an giant alien starfish. The other is an all-powerful Lovecraftian god. How you think the two is similar is beyond me.
Kevin Feige: Hmmmm....I see James Gunn used a one-eyed character in The Suicide Squad. I think I'll use one in the next Doctor Strange movie 🎬, but better 😁.
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You lost me at what if
#DcotorStrange
What an overwrought mess of a comic book story!🤔
(psst....hey....that wasn't Shuma-Gorath in What If, that was the The Champion of Hydra... do some research first)
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i;m sorry, but of all the fantastic four clips you could have used, you ended up using that TRASH movie that nobody would even meme
Marvel is turning into crap I'm over this garbage all of it garbage only xmen is good and Deadpool I am not gonna name each movie ill just say they all are ridiculous and not good at all and I hope they fail and plummet into oblivion
The Greeks had eye balls with tentacles that shoot laser beams in stories 1000s of years before love craft was born…. It’s not lovecraftian, over rated piece of sht
HP didn’t come up with a single concept that wasn’t already in mythology 1000s of years before he was born
The concept Lovecraft defined wasn't just *"big eyeball with tentacles"*
That concept was *"ancient alien eldritch gods"* which is basically what Shuma is.
Shuma and his kin was even occasionally called the Great Old Ones, which is a certain pantheon of deities in Lovecraft's stories.
@Gregacious Gracieux Uh, no!