Can we take a moment to appreciate the slides themselves? The transitions, design, color coding, everything was chef's kiss. Tanner, you never fail to impress!
Big Thanks Tanner. I use TQ and TR few years on few projects, and it works as 'swiss watches', providing exclusive experience of DX and UX. Special Thanks for your learning courses for TQ and TR, so cute and comprehensive I never seen before. And seems TS will be real game changer and a present for all React developers. Do exciting to use Tanstack Start for next project.
This is amazing! but I can't ignore how much Remix has given to the react ecosystem. I saw a lot of decisions that made by the remix/react-router team built upon everywhere. Tanstack has build awesome robust tools lately for us developer and competition is always welcome!
Who cares. The important part is the framework and the great work the TanStack team and you have been doing. I've used in production TanStack Router since Beta, and I love it.
@@tannerlinsley Unless you are coming out with TanStack Host, it's not going to kill anything. They will still make all the money even if people use Tanstack Start on vercel. If you both actually mean next.js, that's a different discussion.
@@jeffreysmith9837 I just want something that abstracts away all the nitty-gritty details for me. I don't want to deal with dB, API, server actions, etc. I just point the library to a dB instance with some protected env variables, and it does everything for me and with a great performance. Yes, I know I'm dreaming here.
React just seems unnecessarily complex for most use cases. Most websites can be server rendered templates. Few are interactive SPAs. And even fewer are multi page sites with many interactive components.
@@tannerlinsley Hey Tanner thanks for your input, and it seems like you agree with my opinion? I am a fan of your work, especially Query and I'm using it for my electron app. It's just that after using React for years, I've realized that I've used React unnecessarily more often than not. What kind of sites do you envision your router to compliment?
@@jeffreysmith9837 I think most of the internet can be statically generated or served by specialized systems like blogging platforms, social media or even e commerce. For building completely custom apps though, there is no platform. But there are frameworks!
Man whatever, see you in 3 years when it’s production ready and 5 years when it gets redesigned. Start building web components now or toil forever. Hono Web components Cloudflare You’re welcome
This is how JS ecosystem is supposed to function, Building on top of other projects instead of creating black-box after black-box. I have used react-query and react-table in production and i am throughly impressed with the way this guy designs API. The mad race towards everyone trying to solve the same problem with their own frameworks and coming up with Shitty APIs needs to stop. If you can't replace a library out bcz it's no longer supported (and security is flagging the package) then that framework/library is shit. Also to the people at vercel running react development these days, When will you morons come up with a good API, You already changed the REACT api 3 times since it's existence. If you change the API again, I will come for you.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the slides themselves? The transitions, design, color coding, everything was chef's kiss. Tanner, you never fail to impress!
I'm still in the powerpoint dark age, what is he using ?
no seriously i want to know what he used to make the slides
@@lukei9772 Do let me know when you figure it out or someone kindly bless this thread, thank you.
@@lukei9772keynote
@@moemahmudkeynote
Oh its Tanner "contributes more to my organisations codebase than than our own dev team" Linsley!
Wow, Tanstack Start sounds fantastic. Can't wait for the first demos.
Super exciting! I can’t wait for the post Next.js era 🎉
100%!!
TanStack is pushing the react ecosystem forward
ye, their libs are amazing
So proud for sponsoring this hard work!
Thanks Nadav!
Love Tanner! Everything he produces is amazing.
Big Thanks Tanner. I use TQ and TR few years on few projects, and it works as 'swiss watches', providing exclusive experience of DX and UX. Special Thanks for your learning courses for TQ and TR, so cute and comprehensive I never seen before. And seems TS will be real game changer and a present for all React developers. Do exciting to use Tanstack Start for next project.
OMG! What a session! I completely enjoy the whole thing. It's clear and easy to understand 😊
Wohoo!! This is so sick! You have done it once again, Tanner
Fantastic presentation and I'm so hyped about TanStack Start! Good job!
Super excited for this 🎉. Already loving tanstack router since beta
the awkward nerdy energy is off the chart ❤
i feel like tanner really gets what i'm missing a junior dev
This was brilliant.. eagerly waiting.
Concise, to the point talk. 🔥
What would be of react ecosystem if we didn't have Tanstack
Still using redux probably
very nice, hits all the spots the ecosystem is currently struggling with
Need to give massive props to the Nitro Unjs / Nuxt / Vue team. That solidstart/tanstack start is based off.
wow what a presentation ❤❤❤🎉
Tanner is coolest guy in tech fr
Great stuff Tanner and it was great chatting!
This is amazing! but I can't ignore how much Remix has given to the react ecosystem. I saw a lot of decisions that made by the remix/react-router team built upon everywhere.
Tanstack has build awesome robust tools lately for us developer and competition is always welcome!
Agreed
so so prooud of you Tanner! lets go tanstack start!
Thanks Swyx!
Looks awesome, thanks for sharing
Cool stuff. How did he create these animated slides/presentation?
Got it, it's Keynote Magic Move.
@@dhavall08 Yep!
Prolly gonna try a deno + tanstack start combo for a little project I’m cooking up atm
This will end the framework war!
I'm not sure what happened, but the pure whites on my slides are faded orange/brown.
Who cares. The important part is the framework and the great work the TanStack team and you have been doing. I've used in production TanStack Router since Beta, and I love it.
Great talks.
But where is Netlify in the last slide? 😅
This stuff is great ❤
This is just too awesome
I'd like to know how to create this amazing slides!
I'm so hyped
11:06 Tatarstan!
Okay now do "How to build this type of presentation"
Keynote
Why does it feel so similar to Nuxt 3? Am I the only one feeling it? 🙃
LFGO!!!
wish i was as smart as tyler :)
Lovely
bros got the most hype nerd talks
F*ck it, I'm in.
why does Vercel sopport its own killer?
because it's not killing anything
@@JohnMcclaned And even if it did, Vercel still wins proportionately.
@@tannerlinsley Unless you are coming out with TanStack Host, it's not going to kill anything. They will still make all the money even if people use Tanstack Start on vercel. If you both actually mean next.js, that's a different discussion.
@@JohnMcclaned I’m not. It may compete with Next, but its Next is just one lead gen source for vercel. This will be another. Vercel still wins.
@@tannerlinsley ngl tho, tanstack host sounds pretty good
We need a good local first framework so bad
What's the purpose? Web dev and developing for offline sounds like polar opposites. And why isn't indexeddb enough
@@jeffreysmith9837 I just want something that abstracts away all the nitty-gritty details for me. I don't want to deal with dB, API, server actions, etc. I just point the library to a dB instance with some protected env variables, and it does everything for me and with a great performance. Yes, I know I'm dreaming here.
Netlify not sponsoring?
time to reset the 'days without a web framework release' counter 😭
React just seems unnecessarily complex for most use cases.
Most websites can be server rendered templates. Few are interactive SPAs. And even fewer are multi page sites with many interactive components.
Good thing this isn’t for “most sites”
@@tannerlinsley
Hey Tanner thanks for your input, and it seems like you agree with my opinion?
I am a fan of your work, especially Query and I'm using it for my electron app.
It's just that after using React for years, I've realized that I've used React unnecessarily more often than not. What kind of sites do you envision your router to compliment?
@@jeffreysmith9837 I think most of the internet can be statically generated or served by specialized systems like blogging platforms, social media or even e commerce. For building completely custom apps though, there is no platform. But there are frameworks!
Man whatever, see you in 3 years when it’s production ready and 5 years when it gets redesigned.
Start building web components now or toil forever.
Hono
Web components
Cloudflare
You’re welcome
Cool but unfortunately it's still react
we don't need another react framework. this is ridiculous. people are just looking to solve problems that don't exist at this point.
More accurately: "I haven't experienced the problems this aims to solve yet", which is fair.
This is how JS ecosystem is supposed to function, Building on top of other projects instead of creating black-box after black-box. I have used react-query and react-table in production and i am throughly impressed with the way this guy designs API. The mad race towards everyone trying to solve the same problem with their own frameworks and coming up with Shitty APIs needs to stop. If you can't replace a library out bcz it's no longer supported (and security is flagging the package) then that framework/library is shit.
Also to the people at vercel running react development these days, When will you morons come up with a good API, You already changed the REACT api 3 times since it's existence. If you change the API again, I will come for you.