Backyard Sump Pump System Before, During, and After
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By far the best videos on you tube! You are a true professional… thank you!
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The driveway is going to be an ice rink.
Sorry once you put that pipe up on the fence you lost me and the water in the driveway? What a mess...and that discharge pipe looks terrible.
You clearly didn’t watch the part where he said the city will not allow them to take it all the way to the street…
@@Bu11yBa11 Still ugly
Think it may be codes,not to the gutter.
I think I would first tell the school to put in a swale that would take the water from all the residences. The engineers designing the fields should have known this. How deep is the discharge pipe coming out of the basin and is there any chance that the basin can freeze up in 0 degree weather?
I'm sorry but that discharge Line on that old fence looks like Hell,,,, as you said the reason is because you didn't want to use a check valve ,?
In most cases the check valve well outlast the pump ,,
I love how you guys take time to make a quality product and leave the customers yard as nice as possible. 👍🏻
why dont US downspouts from the roof connect to the street gutter? I have seen many videos showing the downspout discharging right by the house. In New Zealand and Australia it a a requirement to have stormwater connected to the street or creek.
Depends on the city.
My house in Australia Brisbane vents to air, built 1970s.
@@AnarchyEnsues Your stormwater downspounts vent to air? 😂
@@mangos2888 well to grass about 4m away from the house.
wish you could do a follow up on this lawn.
Could they install , for lack of a better term, concrete gutters or valleys along both sides of the driveway?
I was so happy to hear you say Michigan winter, I've been watching draining videos wondering if these techniques would work in Michigan. Thank you for posting.
Drinking game, every time he says "Patent Pending" you take a drink. I expect you all to have alcohol poisoning by 30 minutes. Too bad he skipped over the actual drain install.
I enjoyed your video. Good information. It doesn't look like the sod was take care of.
Why not run it underground once it gets in front of the house and discharge by the street (not on the street)? That gutter downspout looks kinda janky just coming out of a tree.
You aren't kidding. I would be so mad if I spent all that money and then had it discharging through a janky gutter into my driveway.
If I am not mistaken, French Drain Man said in the video that you can't discharge the water by the street.
@@highv0lt6ge I would probably run it into a drain when they left, I don't like this idea, there are so many problems with it
I’d imagine they have the same rules we do. Any concentrated discharge, I.e. sump pump has to be 10 feet from the street.
They might have a provision to tie it directly into the storm sewer, but that might be impractical for some reason.
@@andyruse4670 He says in the video that they are not allowed to discharge into the storm sewer, or the street, or within a certain distance of the street. But I agree, an underground pipe that discharges in the same location would be nicer. The pipe would have to be graded so that it doesn't hold any water once the pump shuts off, but you could probably have a much more discrete discharge. Fortunately that's pretty cheap compared to the rest of the project, so I'm sure the homeowner could call them back or do it himself in the future if he wanted to.
I like the applied ideas, great work ethic and trying to do your best. That is great! I don't like the discharge pipe, I would be nervous to install like that in the sunbelt region and think it would fail quickly where you are.
Love these videos and the information. If the homeowner was interested in it, a series of rain garden at the low spots seems like a good alternative solution. Obviously the size and depth of the garden and whether it's a good option would vary based on percolation rate of soil, expected rainfall in large storm events, and total area of catchment collecting in those low spots
This is your best system yet. I like overkill
I enjoyed the video, and learned from your commentary. Thank you.
I do have one question, and it might be moot depending on the slope of the yard and driveway...which cannot be determined in the video.
Why run all that gutter out in front of the fence instead of hiding it in the spruce and pouring out into the driveway (looks like about 8-10 feet) further up the driveway? I was thinking that were it my property I would have asked you to run through that spruce so it runs out right at the base, just at the down-slope edge of the bottom branches, so the downspout is invisible, or nearly invisible when nothing is pouring out.
Was it an issue of driveway slope/fall at the point where the spruce sits?
WOW!!! I cant believe how much water was on that guys yard! Robert your guys are dedicated, working in a huge mess into the night. would love to see that yard in action when its all healed up...Great Job!!!
Seconded. Would love to see an "AFTER" picture so-to-speak.
This far from a great job. Would u be happy with "camouflage" spray paint. Im sure the home owner was super happy with the job. Haha
@@symcardnel1741 ....It's "America."
Getting ready to have gutters installed and other drainage issues addressed. Been watching all of your videos over the past week to gain a little knowledge on the subject. Your videos are by far the best. Thanks for the info/content! Watching 1hr+ video on rain water management on a Friday night - my 30s are going a little differently than I imagined! Ha
26:35 the guy in yellow is like yeahhhhh okay buddy
I love your videos. I'm a home inspector in Kansas City. Always looking for great tradesmen I can learn best practices.
You have to be kidding right? Its hard to judge sarcasm through text for me. But im almost 100% sure ur being sarcastic
Nice install.
You had a lot of constraints to work with and came up with a workable solution.
This was interesting to watch. I am in Michigan too. This year all water draining on driveways and sidewalks freeze at night. Next morning all ice. Fell and slipped on my tailbone this winter. We have more rain and freezing nights. My sidewalk collects water and the mail man won't walk on it. This video the yard and driveway on a hill so it drains off into the street. Our city lot the sidewalks were replaced and now lower than our yards. Ice accumulated from the rain the temp drop. I healed from my fall but having a ultra sound on my knee tomorrow. Something didn't heal. Out water main broke now. City is fixing it. It breaks every year. Our lot needs two sump pumps and a new main from the city. My water out of my faucet is milky white. City saids it is all the air bubbles in the main. Just crazy year. Nice video. Entertaining.
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Thanks for the video and information. I’ve watch lots of videos on drainage and you definitely know what you are doing. It makes the other people look stupid.
the gutter part at the end should be longer to reach the driveway's slope, you can see the water pooling on the flat part of the driveway.
Thanks for sharing the video. I would put the power cord in a conduit to the garage outlet.
Great work! Thanks for taking the time to document these projects. What type of heating element do you use for your outdoor sump systems? Without a heater, would you recommend removing the pump in the winter? I'm planning my setup now.
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We moved into a house in the summer long after the spring thaw. Our backyard sump pump was removed and stored in the garage. When is a good time to re-install the pump into the sump pit? Should I dig some of the snow to expose the sump pump now so I can re-install it?
Great project. You really helped solve that nightmare of a backyard drainage issue. Terrific sump basin system you invented. I see why you're patenting it! Really clever in so many ways. Thanks for the video.
Question: By the water being diverted to go down your driveway, does it not water stain your driveway after awhile? I had my sump pump out down my driveway (from front of house)in the summer and then i divert it into my landscape bed in the winter but both are not good. Water builds up on my grass and is soiling the crap out of it and when it goes down my driveway it stained the heck out of my driveway. I then dug a trench and ran 3 inch septic pipe under my front lawn right to the st. What do you guys think of my set up? There should be no difference between the water going down my driveway and directly to the st right? Just looking for your opinion.
Who makes the pipe again I missed the maker
Why didn't you put a fabric along the french line toward the chamber as you had always done in other videos? Was it not needed in a clay soil or did you simply edit that part because it is trivial?
Enjoy the ice rink you have created! Check local codes before pumping ground water.
Spoken like a guy who doesn’t deal with building codes
Do you always sod cut the yard you are working on? Seems like alot of extra work when I could just get my mini X in there and dig it.
This will relieve a lot of water pressure from the house foundation too!!
No it wont he is pumping the water strait back into the ground it will just make it`s way below the house undermining it, it would never be allowed in the UK and also he created a nice trip hazard with that pipe
When you said very one has a nabor that is a jerk have one next to me. His ground tile is plug and I have a lake in my yard 10 mouths out for the year. Do you sell 6 inch drain tile I would need 300'. I want to run it to my front ditch they are putting in a 24 inch pipe that I will be able to run to. Also should I put the tile in the same way you are with the gravel and the landscape fabric.
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I would contact the city inspector regarding the neighbor. Any damages/issues from neighbors, the owners are liable for. Send the neighbors and pictures of the issues today. A huge tall tree fell on my house causing damage. The tree roots deteriorated from standing puddles in their yard over the years. One big windy rain storm and topple over it came, crushing vehicle, knocking down brick chimney, busted gas pipe, cracked walkway & stairs. Damaged foilage, just a big mess. I hadn't notified the neighbor previously, so they were in the clear. Insurance paid all repairs
are yard use to fill up like a swimming hole, so my dad planted a weeping willow tree, by the next yr hardley any water, the second yr no more water.. cheap easy and shade for the summer.
Smart. Those Pussywillows would thrive in that area as well and those are fun.
These chamber sumps are awesome! Where can I get some of the compression gaskets for the hard pipe connection?
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Does the pump freezes in winter? Thanks.
Love you videos and great information for diy home owners who wants to do it the right way.
Have you guys thought about turning the ply wood sideways near the trench so you have more working space and room to turn the machines around with no worries
@Ron
Plywood is our biggest pain in the azz. We carry 2 pallets of plywood already it is expensive, takes up room on trucks/trailers, hard on everyone's back etc.
To what end? Have you ever handled a 3/4" x 4' x 8' Severe Weather Sheathing? When your done building a road down in a deep backyard your Balls are in your socks!!
What a job. Great work.
I have super sandy soil down here in central Florida. I put in a french drain system and it failed. Would you generally recommend going with a yard drain system with your deep polylok's and an ecnlosed pipe to mitigate sand intrusion?
Do you run the Gold parallel to the High Octane? Or do you stack the Gold on top of the High Octane?
Lol.. This guy is just a salesman trying to sell an expensive shit system.
Where did you send the water from the catch basins? How do you keep the sediment from those yard drains from getting into the sump chambers?
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Great job. Wish you were here in Maryland
Here is our most recent Outdoor Sump Pump System videos from 2022. I edited these down so they really keep moving.
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How do you calculate what size container you need for a sump pump to take the water from a down spout from a home. I am in Europe and were we live we don't have much to chose from for DIY. I can get a big concrete one but I can't move it myself so going to get a plastic 55cmx55cmx55cm which is like 22inches x 22inches x 22inches and I am putting a 13000liter per hour sump pump. Which is about 3500gallons per hour pump. I wonder if my sump container will be enough to handle the water coming off of the drain?
That will work. I use 24" Round often. 22"×22" sq has more area. 👍
Just curious as to why you guys didn’t stay local for the duration of the job?
What prevents the pump from freezing? It didn't look like it was below the frost line.
@jw
Heater
Of course the good ole underground heater like the ones at Lambough field of course.
FRENCH DRAIN MAN what brand?
Gran Torino. I'm still subbing though.
I found that a partner saw with a ductile steel type blade will make short work of those large roots.
I’m in Wayne county. Romulus. Is that to far?
You’d have so much business in Northern New Jersey.
We are looking for a good contractor in New Jersey
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN lmk if you get lucky and find one. My entire neighborhood can use them
Do you subcontract for a job in the north east New Jersey. Please let me know. Thank you. Also if not can you do a plan and let a contractor complete it in New Jersey. Thank you.
We are currently looking for a contractor in your area. Let us know if you find anyone.
Can you connect a French drain to a existing sump pump system, to take the water to the street?
Not Smart.
You don't want to do that. In rare cases, a tiny little bitty french drain can be done on an existing sump pump discharge line for a basement or crawl space. But it's rare.
@FRENCHDRAINMAN Thank you. If you don't actually connect it. Can you direct the water to a drain?
Nice video - very informative !!
Interesting 👍
Thanks Roji
Whats the situation in the winter with frozen water and the pump and check valve? Do you remove the pump an valve?
We heat the system and the trenches are always dry when everything is frozen
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN very cool. I did notice at the end the basin heater he hooked up in the boot. Great idea. Michigan winters are as much fun as our canadian winters here in windsor lol.
Oh what's a good tree outlet 1:03:30 if you cut more roots the tree won't need a downpipe. The down pipes on the garage could have been moved to the driveway end and from there connect the french drain system bypassing that dodgy old fence camouflaged pipeline my favorit part was seeing the spray can color.
Nice but I foresee it icing up at night in the winter. In my area at least
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I'm wondering if you could use an Air Spade to tunnel under the roots so you don't spend time trying to cut them all?
May help to not hurt the tree too...
I'm curious if the tree will survive all these root cuts. An arborist told me if you cut a root larger than your thumb, it could take a few years to know if the tree will make it.
I guess Michigan doesn’t allow drainage systems to extend to the curb. Strange
When you flush out the gold line, where does all the mud go? To a clean out box or does the sump collect the dirt and shoot it out?
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How about coming out to Wyoming and fixing my problem? Lol
What was the cost to the customer for this job?
How are the welds on the corrugated pipe? Will they hold up over the years with the water and stone and dirt?
what does the high octane connect to in the sump it? It looks like it's just sitting beside the chambered sump not connected to anything? I'm looking at doing this system and unsure how it all pieces together at the sump?
Water falls out of high Octane because it's full of holes. The water falls out into the sump pump pit
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN understood but what does the high octane connect to in the sump pit and/or outside the sump pit? Is that the inlet from the french drain?
Chad- the sump pit has a ton of holes drilled into it- see 29.35
You should have made a part one containing all the off topic non-sense and them a part 2 of actual what we came for
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I live in Michigan and we have snow in my city during the winter. But I'm in West Michigan. I need to move east. As for the job, maybe it's good, I don't know but I wouldn't be happy with that. It looks tacky to me. Too many exposures. And that water in the driveway? What about a downward cement path along the driveway. More like a channel.
How many Apple drain videos did you watch before started this job ! Lol
Is that yellow extension cord submersible? What is it?
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Do you work with an arborist at all? Since your system wrapped around almost three sides of that large tree - how many roots did you have to cut and are you worried at all about killing or disease damaging the tree - then the tree either falls on the customers house in two years or has to be removed? I find too many "professionals" all into their own skill set and whatever collateral issues are created for the homeowner are not their issue to worry about. Then you watch the professional tree removal youtube videos and you find them badmouthing the crews that cut roots or damaged the trees they later have to remove. Maybe your crew could at least have a discussion with the tree guys to find the best way to get around roots, know how much you can cut before you should worry, or how to treat a cut root to minimize the chance the tree dies or goes into shock?
I own SHERWOOD LANDSCAPE CONSTRUCTION L.L.C. and have PHD Horticultural Degree. NO I'm not worried about the anchor roots (not feeder roots which are Crazy deep).
i think anchor roots and feed roots are different. Though i think they do overlap in duties...
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN how do you prevent tree roots from growing into drains and clogging them up? I've heard of copper or copper sulphate?
Did you mention heat for freeze ?
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57:05 , this guy is taking work from Union Painters
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Why did you have discharge line above ground running along fence like that into a gutter.. was there city restrictions preventing underground pipe with a pop up... just thought it would look more cosmetically appealing.
@Bryan
When there is a pile of snow on pop up emitter it doesn't work. We have warm ups with rain and snow is still piled up. Also you would have to heat the pop up emitter.
Thank you for commenting!
Those emitters are crap too. I still think the homeowner should have paid you to at least run it to the curb and let it flow over if a curb cut isn't allowed
@@rodd8125
Against Ordinance violations are issued immediately. In the North if you ice the streets and someone gets hurt you are liable. That's only 2 reasons not to do that but there are many more reasons.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Gotcha, yeah we don't have ice issues down here. We run all back yard drainage to the street or pop it into a catch basin.
One more point...just a suggestion. As someone who has done a lot of work in soft soil, using similar equipment, I've found it to be a good rule of thumb to never run equipment with the tracks (or wheels) parallel to a trench. I always approach and work a trench from a perpendicular (track perpendicular to the trench) angle, when possible (obviously, sometimes, because of structures and trees, it's not possible) When your tracks are perpendicular to the trench there's far less risk of a collapse.
Easier to slide a few pieces of plywood around as you progress through the project than to deal with a piece of equipment falling in your trench.
If you dig perpendicular to this trench and catch a root you would flip this mini excavator over in a split second. You don’t trench with the machine perpendicular, that is the first thing you learn when getting an operator’s license.
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@Dan Mattingly Yes we can put a thermostat controlled heater in them that doesn't use much electricity.
You gotta get you a bigger bucket on that mini-X
Nice video. A lot of hard work, but great results. I liked seeing the before picture of the standing water, he really did have a water problem. I know how he feels...I have one too. But...I got 2 rolls of the solid gold, 4 rolls of the high octane, cloth and numerous fittings, and I was able to form a plan to deal with my water problem from watching your videos. I really need about 4 more rolls of the high octane, but I can get started with what I have. Your videos are very helpful, so thank you for that.
Come do my yard!!
I would have done custom system also
That discharge line looks like hell.
Your so kind.
Thank you for commenting.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN sorry. That came out spicier than I meant it. To be fair, I wrote that before you painted it, and I absolutely understand the need for it, I just know it would drive my wife nuts.
Enjoyed watching the video but i think you can get away with 50 percent less words. In addition I would have ran direct burial cable and mounted a switch next to the existing power. leaving an extension cord exposed like that is just shoddy and unprofessional. It would cost less than 20 dollars for that switch.
Model number of kubota?
U17
damn i wished you were closer
This guy will an ice rink on his driveway.
It only runs during a thaw. It's been in for 2 full winters. Never iced the driveway. The driveway is sloped.
Power for the pump should have been in conduit with a on/off switch secured to the garage wall beside the receptacle.
@4 Ever
Customer wanted to utilize what he had. It did save him some money. I can't blame him it wasn't being used and it was conveniently near the Pump placement.
Thank you for commenting!
Libertarian 4 Ever says who? Not the NEC
@Leonard Holt
Thank You!! The Electrician who I've been working with sense 2004 is now semi retired for the most part and still installs our wire because we dig trenches and Backfill to keep him. This job we used a existing and didn't bring him in. To your point in 16 years and 35 different building Departments never had to do it the way L 4 Ever described. Thank you for commenting!!
@@leonardholt5311 It would be more convenient for the customer and looked better.
Libertarian 4 Ever well that’s different than “should have been”. There are literally a dozen ways to power that pump. How do you know that receptacle isn’t controlled by an on/off switch? You can’t tell just by the video.
why do other guys say NEVER cover a french drain? i feel like i would hate having a gravel strip in my back yard. I think if your way works they why not cover it?
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is it just this yard that you had to put pipe on the fence? to me i would sacrifice digging up along my driveway instead of having this ugly pipe on my fence. if you have to replace the fence, that means you need to take down the pipe.
And the fence looked like it needed replaced in the next year or so. If the water is being pumped why would u need to run it like that? Just lazy work from a hack job
valentin is romanian?
How ridiculous is it that you can't mechanically discharge water to the street, but you can mechanically discharge onto the driveway and let it run into the street!
It would cost a lot but I would have the driveway re-poured with a gradual slope to the street. No one can say anything because it is gravity.
I did that exact thing. I ran poly pipe with a water catch and had a new driveway put in with the poly pipe to cross under the drive way at a slope for gravity, i also ran two inch pipe with a upper water catcher to collect the second story roof water, i ran the pipe on top of the chain link fence painting it the same color as the fence, then took it to a shrub at the edge of the street so it is not noticeable. That fixed 75% of the water from coming into down stairs. After that i re sloped the front and back lawn from the home with a six mill plastic five inches under the dirt and re planted lawn seed. That finally stop all the water issues i had !!!
lesson #1 for new home buyers, be sure to buy a house w/ good positive grade. that pump is going to run often. what about the freezing temps? the job looks great but relying on a sump pump vs gravity, hmmm.
Houses on a hill have erosion problems. They usually need 60k-120k in retaining wall construction. Yard drain is much cheaper
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I think you mean Clint Eastwood Grand Torino Not el Camino lol.
I had an old sewage septic system collapse in my back yard. When I uncovered the pit I couldn't believe how big it was. 12'-14' deep? 10' round at bottom built up to a point at the top where the lid was. Cinder block laid on side with holes for seepage into dirt. Kind of like being inside a pyramid. I filled it with crush stone and regret it . I should've used it to collect my storm water. There's so much room in their it'd take 50 years before the thing filled with debris.. Why don't they use a system like that for Storm water?
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Ummm…..the water is already underground - it’s being pumped out from there. Go past the frost line maybe - also you never showed install of the underground piping of how you hooked it up or maybe it’s on a separate video.
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All that dirt water on your driveway..
15:57 dude almost flipped out !
Plywood why not plastic?? Takes less space in your truck and less weight in your truck (save gas) and is lot easier for your employees so they don’t get unnecessary tired
Why not bury the electrical line over to box. This installation would never pass code here.
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@@FRENCHDRAINMAN You never answer a question, just post more of your videos.
This is the worst install I've ever seen. What a hack job. You should seriously be ashamed of that discharge line. Shame.
Not to mention the ice skating rink it will make the driveway during the winter.
@C B Run it underground to the street?
@@justingeronimolocal regulations say you CAN'T RUN the discharge to the street.