just wanna say, it doesn’t matter that she spent 6-7 years in a classroom doing endless math, her actions are not justifiable and are downright selfish, THOUGH they do make sense for her character. doesn’t make her any better. and if anyone one is wondering, Liy may have got along with her team fast because she was in death pact, but the rest of the exitors were all sane at the very least. pencil has gone feral. i do still find her decent, and i do hope she stays long enough for her to get redemption take my opinion as a pinch of salt, i understand that you disagree but please don’t be rude about it.
different characters means different personalities and different personalities means they deal with stuff differently so it doesn't make sense to compare pencil and liy
Yeah no this is a rlly bad take, sorry for my rude behavior but it’s uhh clear you don’t understand Pencil as much as you think you do. If u want more info go check the comment I made
She's been eliminated 3 times. Honestly Pencil needs an arc not even a redemption arc, but one in general. Because Book and Ice Cube no longet like her, she's basically alone. Cloudyay was safe by 1 contestant anyway.
ngl, her reaction is honestly pretty realistic, when it feels like your world is falling apart, you ignore other people in the situation and pretend that all your efforts were for nothing, what she did was bad, but you still feel bad for her.
Stick Figure the reggae band? Well he makes songs with more than two words. In fact, it would be great being with an amazing music artist for 6-7 years. Obviously, unless you were talking about someone like David, but why ever would that happen!
pencil is a perfect example of a very flawed (but not horrible) person. She’s not malicious, she was a bad person before everything and being trapped for 6 years broke her, basically reducing the chances of her redemption to a stub, since now she feels justified in her behavior. She’s not horrible, she cares about other people, she’s a bad person, just not past redemption.
In ur statement pencil basically got the karma she deserves book and icy not talking to her means karmas a bitch she wishes to have her old life and just freesmart again but.. yea she just got the karma she deserves and needs to move on and make new friends
i kinda love her for this because you can't just expect every single character to be perfect, i like the flaws that pencil have. pencil def went up my tier list
@Memberinq no it literally isnt lol, they're not making pencil perfect on purpose which what makes her an interesting character. it is not bad writing at all.
No she’s not rogue. She’s broken. Pencil refuses to forget about the past because it affected her so much. She CAN’T let go. Because her actions has caused her to lose her reputation, her friends, her freedom. Even after being free from a cage for six years, she will never be free if doesn’t cope with the past and start a new life.
Tbf, I understand her. She has been stuck trying to escape a classroom for SIX YEARS (also she has been there the longest), and as soon as she comes out, Match is taken away from her. Book and Icy refuse to even talk to her and she doesn’t know why. It is clear her mental state has been affected badly by all the events that occurred, and I get why she would try to go and fix her past. That obviously does NOT justify almost breaking the universe and killing everyone but it is understandable why she would be angry. I hope she isn’t voted out cuz I wanna see her continue her arc.
I really like how you mentioned that she doesn't know what she did to Book and Icy, esp with BFDIA context, shes treated them well. And the whole thing with book quitting freesmart happened mostly when she was away
This is how character development is made bro. Thats why Cloudyay wasn't put up for elimination. Her actions wont ever be justified but for Pencil, her world is already crumbled apart. She pushed away her friends, and no one likes her anymore. Pencil is an actual complex character in which you have to find meanings in her actions. Pencil has been my fav since day 1 and I say that this scene was very well done.
@glucosity When character development is made, the community is bound to split into those who hate and tho who love the character. Ig u n me just represent both those persectives, so fair opinion. Also I maybe shouldnt have worded my first comment the way I did, its just that when it comes to defending Pencil I sometimes get carried away. So im sorry if my comment was rude.
literallyyy, why can’t people understand that a character reaching a dramatic low tends to be preparation to build them up 😭 pencil went way up in my tier list this episode
I have a feeling Pencil was like that in that scene because she's still mad Book and Ice Cube are trying to avoid her, but she was hiding it and instead talked about the E.X.I.T for herself to sound more concerning. Pencil WAS a good leader (she even acted determined, seemed to care for Bracelety and David, etc.), there's Liy who is all fine and she probably even forgot about the E.X.I.T at this point, and Pencil just sucks at trying to make a point because she just complained about Roboty for the 3rd time. Despite all of this, personally I liked Pencil in TPOT 15 way more than in TPOT 14.
adding liy who is perfectly fine is not a good argument. They are two separate different characters??? That's like comparing two kindergarteners or smth.
she's probably under the assumption that if she gets eliminated, she's just gonna go through eternal algebra all over again. doesn't seem like she cares anymore even if it means that everyone else will get erased from existence lol
That crashout made sense but once she tried to change the universe she basically almost made the universe collapse then decided to blame winner for it shows shes selfish ig shes the new flower then
I can get why anyone would hate pencil, but her being the way she is, i’d say it’s good writing. Pencil has a long way to go considering that her team has been immune every time since she’s joined, so the writers are trying to keep her in.
YEAHH NO. Sorry if this sounds rude but I disagree completely with all your points. Your first point in which Pencil says that others can clean that up, she’s referring that she doesn’t care what happens anymore, if someone cleans it up, fine, if someone doesn’t, also fine. Pencil is desperate here because everyone no longer believes she’s a good leader, and that was her breaking point. All of Freesmart has left her + nobody else believing her anymore meant that the world was over in her eyes. For Pencil, not being seen as a good leader is equal to hate, which means that she sees that everyone no longer trusts her and hates her now. The only way to prove that she’s a good leader and for her to finally prove to others that she’s not worthy of hate is to complete immunity. If she doesn’t, her life, everything, is over. + her “ego” isn’t rlly hurt, because her point was already proven with Book and Ice cube leaving her. If she doesn’t prove to others she’s a worthy leader, she has every right to assume that nobody will like her anymore. Also she didn’t push Match away. In fact, she brought Match closer, trying to be as kind as possible so Match wouldn’t hate her. In fact, she doesn’t even like Match that much, but still spends time with her because she knows how much Match would feel hurt and probably hate her. This was proving by them hanging out for 7 years in the EXIT. Can you imagine hanging out with someone who’s overly needy for 7 years? I fully stand with the point that she isn’t being selfish, she’s being desperate. Nobody likes her anymore, and nobody sees her as a good leader anymore. For her, it’s all over. The world is already over in her eyes. The past is past, but the past also becomes the future. You can see that no matter what Pencil does in TPOT 14, nobody wants to hang out with her, she was desperate, the last straw was Book and Ice cube still not wanting to hang out with her despite Pencil trying her best. After that, Pencil comes to the conclusion that if she isn’t a good leader, everyone will hate her, and everyone hating her means the world would be over. Also the points you brought abt Liy is clearly bias. Liy is with a chill team meanwhile Pencil is with.. the bossy boy who disregards ppls feelings. As the number one Pencil defender, I deem your point.. ILLEGITIMATE!! Haha, just kidding.
@ except Match was the one who started to bully Spongy, making the game Spongy-Cake. Instead of endorsing this, Pencil was more concerned with the tests catching on fire. Then Pencil joined in so that Match wouldn’t ask more questions leading to a higher chance of match wanting to defy Pencil, and Yk Pencil likes to stay in control
@TacokomiOSC liy was with stapy one of her best friends pencil was stuck with David and bracelety also like I said the people that liy new (bottle and pen) excepted her and talked to her when book and ice cube don't want anything to do with her she is scared of change while liy loves new adventures
@TacokomiOSC I'm talking about when they had separated to find a way out of four and liy and stapy formed a friendship while match was a later boot none of her tpot friends like her while liy had people also the thrill of the adventure to escape four must of kept her sane
If Pencil didn't want to face any consequences, then maybe she should have been more respectful in BFB 1. Golfball isn't even focused on the challenge and more on the events that are happening and she gets scolded for it. It's not Golfball's fault Pencil was eliminated back then. Pencil should have seen that coming.
@Jayden-fh1rkoh thats an easy choice she was pin in bfdia 14 15 16 but not 17 as shes improved alot in that episode which i think was needed as she was getting alot of hate and only was angry for 2 seconds minimum
As pencil being my favorite character, I've got to defend her. She was trapped in the exit for almost 7 years. She wasn't the only one, but she was the first one, for a time, she didn't know what would happen next, if she would see someone else ever, or if she would be trapped forever. And now that she came back, no one will tack to her, she is alone. All of this suffering doesn't justify their actions, but it is not about justifying, it is about understanding. How can you expect to someone, who was trapped for 7 years in a small room, that has no one to talk to, and doesn't know what will happen with her if she gets eliminated, to act in a reasonable way. It's impossible. She made something bad not for being bad, but for being sad and alone. She doesn't need a new personality, she just needs friends. Talking about fault, I still think Pillow is more responsible for all the past anomalies. Edit: I've realised I forgot to talk about her playing the victim role, but it kinda explains with what I said before, someone who knows made a mistake, will try to hide it, or to blame another. Again, it is not correct, but she does it to protect herself. All pencil needs to be "better" is just someone to talk. Two could be an interesting option. Now that gaty's gone, Two's gonna be lonely, and having a new character to talk to would be the best for both they and pencil. Wrote a lot more than what I wanted. It's 7 am in my country, I can't sleep, and this is just an object show.
i understand it is in her character to make such decisions, but again, it does not justify them. she was written well in this scene, but what she did was wrong and you cannot defend her for it. some people like her for this, but i PERSONALLY don’t. you can like her if you want, i’m just giving my honest opinion. and as i’ve said before, i hope she stays for a while to get redemption
pencil is one of those villains who is doing something you dont agree with but its actually respectable why, you need to remember how her life was before, she lost pretty much everyone, has no friends left, was suffering pretty much with two people she didnt even like that much for so long and just suffering and whats the only thing she has left? the competition. Plus you need to realize that after the challenge they couldve tried going back and fix everything she didnt think that the yoyleite would just stop working, her wanting to go back too was just cause she wanted to prevent all of her own suffering, with no one left to care about she wouldnt mind about everyone else changing
hey uhh IM GOING TO BURST THE BUBBLE for one flower tried killing eveybody permanently almost killed anouncer at the finale killed bubble and firey for absolutely no reason just because she didnt want to do the challenge and made bubble’s freindship with leafy end almost made bfdi ended 3 times nearly killed bubble permanently threatens to kill contestetants just because they wont do what she wants and yet pencils worse because she nearly caused it once and did blame winner which a was pretty bad but hey depends on your view
Idk if is redemtion, but an end to this arc may come good, if they are keeping CloudYay safe, they might add more characters arc, like with pillow or yellow face
If Pencil was so affected by that, imagine other characters who didn't even rejoin in Tpot. like Dora, Stampy and Bracelety, I don't think they would be mentally well. Edit: That Pencil is affected by that is very common on a human, Because a person's childhood, I mean when you go from 6 to 12 years old, affects a person a lot, making what happens in that stage of the life influence them in the future.
@@rhythmheavenfirey jr got a cabin while match has bubble and ruby so most likely dora we wont know were she is but david might be in david land stapy I DONT KNOW bracelety I DUNNO
@@v1rtu4l_marky39and plus 8 ball might help firey go to where a recovery center is which leads him into the tpot set and attemps to recover leafy but ended up not working as one kidnaped her just like gaty
This interaction between pencil and golf ball. This could be an arc between them, they’re both very flawed people that have been rivals for the longest time. Pencil cares too much about her own feelings to consider others, and golf ball cares too much about her own goals to consider others. Both of them prioritize what they want over what others want, and here, golf ball seems genuinely concerned by pencil. They could both have an arc together to get the growth they both need, and that would be amazing, pencil learns to consider other’s wants, and golf ball learns to consider other’s feelings.
I feel like her crashout was reasonable, She was 1st place in TFI, Which is canon now in BFDI. Then she got unfairly eliminated in BFDI and BFDIA. She got out first in BFB, And Rebuted (Rejoin and debutted) Into TPOT. She has no one to look to, All her friends are gone, and Nobody wants to be her friend. And she knows if she is in the background in the episodes, people will forget her and she will be eliminated, not be able to make it up to book and ice cube. I surely hope she does get an arc where she can let go of the past, and try to make new friends. Even if she almost destroyed the world. If she doesn't, She fits the role so well for a villain character in the season.
@glucosity remember bfdi? She got out due to the scoreboard, pencil I found out was rigged in bfdia cause needle was supposed to be out, but it’s another TH-cam dislike extension problem
Bro this would be an incredibly good fanseries concept, after she went back to the past to change it, the whole timeline collapses back in BFB but this time she never got eliminated
Her decision to fix her own past and reobtain everything she had is morally correct in her perspective, to her she can't fix anyone else if she can't fix herself
Also I think it would be really cool if Pencil and Golf Ball got the chance to talk properly to eachother as I think they both have a lot in common. They would make for good friends, and I think Pencil needs someone that smart to talk and understand her Not exactly related to your video but... wouldn't it be cool?
Was that black text at the bottom of the video in 0:15 your thinking? I’m asking because I golfball didn’t saw half of what was shown. (Also what does “delulu” mean?)
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTAND HOW SELFISH SHE IS, I MEAN IF I WERE ROBOTY I WOULDN'T HELP THEM, I don't like Roboty but I think he deserved to join against Pencil
Honestly you and I would act similarly in the same situation as her. You already got frustrated quite a few times when you have to wait too long in a grocery store, i doubt you would be even remotely sane if you were stuck in a classroom for 6 years isolated from the outside world, losing all of your friends and no one trusting you. The statement "I'll stay sane in that classroom" has as much vaildity as saying the earth is flat, unless you have the mental fortitude of a Buddist monk
@glucosity I actually really understood for her in TPOT 15, all her friends left her when she tried to make it up to them. I think she has gone a little mad but we should keep her in for a little longer to see what she does
I still like her and this selfish personality just adds some nice flavor at times, and, as you pointed out in the top comment, Liy did get along better than Pencil because of her friends there, but Pencil is stuck with people she doesn’t like, doesn’t know, or doesn’t really care for much. I do understand why you wouldn’t find her good from her actions, but I think they add some flavor to the interactions and competition. Selfish personalities can be interesting in shows sometimes.
1. Pencil is only referring to Golf Ball with being stuck in a classroom, Liy is not relevant in this confrontation between these two. 2. Pencil wants to be in a positive view by people, this is how Pencil is 3. She is saying how she hasn’t seen Bubble and Ruby since her elimination and Match was blown away in the wind 4.Uses book and icy not talking to here to support her struggle and why she dosent want to lose again 5 and 6. Both support how she dosent want to suffer that same fate of being stuck in a similar environment that if the exit Not everyone is perfect and this scene is pencil venting pretty much, sure it may be selfish but I feel Pencil does have a reason to do the things she has done. Stop the hate (No hate to the creator of this video by the way)
Still basically 6 years, and Bracelety was there too, they were both they for essentially the same time. And neither of them were feral towards anyone. Under any circumstance.
@@RainbowRain-x4yyeah well, people handle trauma differently. just because they aren’t acting the same way as pencil doesn’t mean they aren’t traumatised
"I tried to be a good leader, to be the one who got us out of there, and ROBOTY saved the day in the end..." Girliepop, you told him he was dead weight and that you should just leave him behind. And you lead everyone so far already. What's. Your. Point.
Yeah i agree she is very selfish Her elimination was well deserved. She literally made her team lose and she also says that she wanted to be a good leader (if we are going to jump and not tell lightning to fly).
Pencil was a pretty sassy character in bfdi, pretty arrogant in bfdia, uncaring in idfb, and is cruel + all of this combined in bfb. 6 years in the exit humbled her, but broke her at the same time. Now she’s just a traumatized mean girl.
in my opinion the reason why liy handled the EXIT so much better than pencil is because liy never really had friends and was clearly a loner. people like stapy and foldy didn't like her company and she felt completely shunned by her team when she was eliminated. meanwhile, pencil is someone who has always been social and has always been with friends/her alliance members, and then suddenly all of that was gone for 6 years. she may have had match for awhile and it can be taken that she pushed her away, but she was doing what was best for everyone. pencil even said "we can hang out all the time once we escape, but right now those guys need you". pencil clearly had the intention to hang out with match after escaping, but with her joining TPOT and match being flown to the pillary ruins, pencil is all alone once again pencil didn't know and doesn't know how to properly cope with the EXIT, while liy was pretty much used to it. obviously liy didn't like it, but she was able to handle it a lot better
“liy seems to be adapting well” liy had absolutely no close friends around her before she was eliminated, pencil was surrounded by all of the people closest to her before she got out and was seperated from them for years and now all of them are gone. this video is so tone deaf pencil wasn’t in the right or the wrong for this gut it feels cruel to just single her out when we literally see what it’s done to her
yes, pencil’s actions aren’t justified, but she’s still really well written as a bad person. her reactions to her trauma are insanely realistic, even if it was borderline insane. i like her as a character, but not as a person. i think she very accurately represents a bad person. she doesn’t try and hurt others purposefully, but hurts them because of her own selfishness without realising. (not defending her btw!!)
In my opinion, this makes no sense. She isn’t gonna help save reality just because she was trapped in the EXIT? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, how are those two related, besides her pride getting hurt? Pencil used to be one of my favorite characters until this scene. Before toddlers come crashing into my replies section, yes, I know what character development is, no, this is not a good way to set it up. Pencil used to be one of my favorites, but she got so much worse from this scene. The worst part in my opinion is that NOW SHE HAS GLAZERS/DEFENDERS.
I really appreciate you putting your opinion out there but I’ll clarify some things I would like to say , this crash and the way she is, is because of many things starting with her eliminations being eliminated unfairly in bfdi barley eliminated in bfdia 1st out in bfb and stuck in a class room for 7 years and only seeing your best friend for let’s be honest 1 of those 7 years really takes a toll on a character now I’m not saying what she did to the timeline was right but it wasn’t necessarily selfish I think she was scared of losing because of the unknown of what would happen after and she also has no friends she has no one there for her everyone sees pencil as some of the viewers see pencil tpot 15 was her breaking point her actions yes very wrong she did because at that point she would do anything then loose and everything was messed up already so in her mind with everything that’s happened I just don’t think she didn’t care i genuinely think she just wanted her friends back
And playing the victim I don’t that was her playing the victim I think that was her either not knowing what to say cuz she thinks she needs to be all strong leader and independent and good or she just wants someone to be her friend so bad that she makes it seem like it was exactly her fault and yes that is kinda being the victim lmao thank you for sharing your opinion, last thing i will argue I don’t think selfish was the right word ❤
im sorry to say bud but i think u read her completely wrong. think about the fact that she constantly loses everything she strives to keep. we dont know what happened at the end of bfdia through idfb that made her become this way, but you can clearly see that shes lost alot if not all of her friends and no one listens to her, yet she still constantly has hope. she is always going to TRY and get what she wants but never will. and seriously, 6-7 years being locked away in the EXIT doesnt matter? pencil was basically forced to rethink everything she ever did to her friends, and i think its even clear to see that when match comes along they definitely dont have the same relationship that they did in bfdi and bfdia. things have changed, and its even more clear with match being eliminated before she could ever patch things up with the rest of her friends. i think instead of calling characters selfish instantly, we should just wait to see what bfdia and idfb have in store for us, because theres clearly something huge that happens to many characters. oh and about the EXIT again, i think its safe to say she definitely has more baggage than some of the other characters in there did (such as bracelety or 8ball).
@glucosity ok im not really saying that it isnt selfish, but alot of characters do selfish or idiotic things, so i dont get why shes the only one to be called out. plus i believe she has her reasons as to why shes doing this, its not just to be selfish and get what she wants. i mean as u said she wants to save herself...i think she just wants things to go back to the older times that she had with her friends, when others liked her. it doesnt just have to be selfish for one to do that, it could be a number of things/reasons. and idk about you but ive had my own moments where id kill to be young and innocent and just do my own things all over again, so i actually understand her, wanting to go back and time to fix it all
I say I wanna explain how this is all 100% pencil's fault 1. she doesn't care about the fact that the BFDI world is about to end and only mins after this scene it actually happened BECAUSE OF HER 2. she doesn't realize that she WAS a good leader and just mad that she did NOT get credit, I mean hey be glad the viewers let you in also don't forget that she made her OWN TEAM in the EXIT and GOT INTO TPOT 3. she still has been BUGGING Book and Ice Cube, so that makes sense. MAYBE PENCIL SHOULD'NT HAVE BEEN RUDE TO THEM, and you're still wondering why that hasn't happened is since it probably will happen in IDFB since they were friends in IDFB. Also PENCIL IS ON A TEAM THAT SHE COULD'VE MADE NEW FRIENDS BUT AFTER TPOT 15, SHE CANT DO NOTHING! 4. the quote "I CANT GO BACK THERE" will happen and also maybe she wouldn't have happened IF SHE WASNT RUDE AT ALL IN BFB 1 AND REMEMBER HER IDEA SUCKED. CloudYAY will be cooked after tpot 15 with pencil
Imagine being in pencil’s life. Even if she is being selfish.. Liy probably loved adventures and was trying to investigate the door. So she had a fun time. But pencil on the other hand… She wanted to see her friends again and wanted to get her OLD FRIENDS back. Imagine being in a room/classroom for 6 YEARS. What would you guys do? (Yeah this was me yapping. But I wanted to talk about pencil,)
@glucositythe basic response to being left in a place you don’t want to be for more than 6 months is definitely to go a little insane or for a lack of a better word, feral.
Pencil is one competitive contestant, pretty much.. she doesn’t care if anything happens to something like if the world dies or anything, she just wants to get her team to win. As i agree, that she did kinda push Match away, Match has been way longer in elimination places than Pencil herself, though in her shoes, 6 years with a number that would probably kill you if not complying to do algebra is mental destruction. Pencil had a point about everyone pushing her away, pretty much GB has TB while Pencil up to this point has no one to be with her, if Match would of somehow watched this, she would of just had a mental breakdown seeing her bestie this insane and question if she is a real friend. And the fact that Pencil is for her comfort. Both sides had their rights, however Pencil had few flaws with it imo. Yet i like her, and hope she actually gets either comfort or maybe something that would maybe satisfy the viewers to not make her that insane.
To be fair, in this situation. She’s just a murderer. At least she didn’t outright try destroying time for her own selfish needs. She didn’t go ahead and try to rig the votes to get herself in BFDI or anything,
I’d love a Pencil redemption arc, however I doubt being viewed in a negative light for six entire years would change, not to mention her BFDIA vote stats is a major yikes.
Her mental breakdown is understandable, but she still used Winner as a scapegoat. Which is why I hate her. And also, since its vote to save, Pencil is *going* to last a while.
just wanna say, it doesn’t matter that she spent 6-7 years in a classroom doing endless math, her actions are not justifiable and are downright selfish, THOUGH they do make sense for her character. doesn’t make her any better.
and if anyone one is wondering, Liy may have got along with her team fast because she was in death pact, but the rest of the exitors were all sane at the very least. pencil has gone feral.
i do still find her decent, and i do hope she stays long enough for her to get redemption
take my opinion as a pinch of salt, i understand that you disagree but please don’t be rude about it.
bracelety, dora, david, 8 ball and roboty are just gimmick characters theyre irrelevant and therefore repetitive so no one gaf abt their sanity
different characters means different personalities and different personalities means they deal with stuff differently so it doesn't make sense to compare pencil and liy
Yeah no this is a rlly bad take, sorry for my rude behavior but it’s uhh clear you don’t understand Pencil as much as you think you do. If u want more info go check the comment I made
pencil was in there for the longest… of course she went feral just like flower did…………
She's been eliminated 3 times.
Honestly Pencil needs an arc not even a redemption arc, but one in general. Because Book and Ice Cube no longet like her, she's basically alone. Cloudyay was safe by 1 contestant anyway.
ngl, her reaction is honestly pretty realistic, when it feels like your world is falling apart, you ignore other people in the situation and pretend that all your efforts were for nothing, what she did was bad, but you still feel bad for her.
Remember, pencil was stuck with an ice cube stan and a stick figure that can usually only say two words.
The stick figure can say “NO!” Too
And “aw dreariously”
@ that’s why I said usaully
To be fair, she decided the groups. She chose that.
Stick Figure the reggae band? Well he makes songs with more than two words. In fact, it would be great being with an amazing music artist for 6-7 years. Obviously, unless you were talking about someone like David, but why ever would that happen!
@CaesarSalad_GD i said usaully
pencil is a perfect example of a very flawed (but not horrible) person. She’s not malicious, she was a bad person before everything and being trapped for 6 years broke her, basically reducing the chances of her redemption to a stub, since now she feels justified in her behavior. She’s not horrible, she cares about other people, she’s a bad person, just not past redemption.
I'm not completely sure I agree with all of that.
In ur statement pencil basically got the karma she deserves book and icy not talking to her means karmas a bitch she wishes to have her old life and just freesmart again but.. yea she just got the karma she deserves and needs to move on and make new friends
i kinda love her for this because you can't just expect every single character to be perfect, i like the flaws that pencil have. pencil def went up my tier list
We've been watching way to much Inanimate insanity
@@kylebrookshire7and thats a good thing lol
This is not flaws, this is bad writing
@Memberinq no it literally isnt lol, they're not making pencil perfect on purpose which what makes her an interesting character.
it is not bad writing at all.
For real u just dont even care about emotions.
@Memberinq
Pencil lashing out at golf ball was probably one of her best scenes
No she’s not rogue. She’s broken.
Pencil refuses to forget about the past because it affected her so much. She CAN’T let go. Because her actions has caused her to lose her reputation, her friends, her freedom. Even after being free from a cage for six years, she will never be free if doesn’t cope with the past and start a new life.
You know you messed up BIG time when yellowface gets angry at you. (The only time he was angry was when he meets purpleface)
Tbf, I understand her. She has been stuck trying to escape a classroom for SIX YEARS (also she has been there the longest), and as soon as she comes out, Match is taken away from her. Book and Icy refuse to even talk to her and she doesn’t know why. It is clear her mental state has been affected badly by all the events that occurred, and I get why she would try to go and fix her past. That obviously does NOT justify almost breaking the universe and killing everyone but it is understandable why she would be angry. I hope she isn’t voted out cuz I wanna see her continue her arc.
I really like how you mentioned that she doesn't know what she did to Book and Icy, esp with BFDIA context, shes treated them well.
And the whole thing with book quitting freesmart happened mostly when she was away
This is how character development is made bro. Thats why Cloudyay wasn't put up for elimination. Her actions wont ever be justified but for Pencil, her world is already crumbled apart. She pushed away her friends, and no one likes her anymore. Pencil is an actual complex character in which you have to find meanings in her actions. Pencil has been my fav since day 1 and I say that this scene was very well done.
ON TOP 💪🔥🔥
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@@Docksrcool I normally dont ship but this is the one exception
the scene was incredibly well done and realistic, i just don’t appreciate pencil for it unlike others who do
@glucosity When character development is made, the community is bound to split into those who hate and tho who love the character. Ig u n me just represent both those persectives, so fair opinion. Also I maybe shouldnt have worded my first comment the way I did, its just that when it comes to defending Pencil I sometimes get carried away. So im sorry if my comment was rude.
BFDI fans when it comes to understand how storylines and character development work (they don't)
i mean idk theyve been doing storylines pretty well
@@w-yk3 OH WAIT I MEANT TO SAY BFDI FANS SORRY
I DEFEND PENCIL 100% 😭
AND BFDI HAS A LOT OF GOOD STORYLINES
Yeah right? Everyone has to be like they were everytime, they have no right to change or react different
Fr. I know this isnt the nicest thing to say ,but I miss when the fanbase had less todlers
literallyyy, why can’t people understand that a character reaching a dramatic low tends to be preparation to build them up 😭 pencil went way up in my tier list this episode
I have a feeling Pencil was like that in that scene because she's still mad Book and Ice Cube are trying to avoid her, but she was hiding it and instead talked about the E.X.I.T for herself to sound more concerning. Pencil WAS a good leader (she even acted determined, seemed to care for Bracelety and David, etc.), there's Liy who is all fine and she probably even forgot about the E.X.I.T at this point, and Pencil just sucks at trying to make a point because she just complained about Roboty for the 3rd time. Despite all of this, personally I liked Pencil in TPOT 15 way more than in TPOT 14.
adding liy who is perfectly fine is not a good argument. They are two separate different characters??? That's like comparing two kindergarteners or smth.
BFDI fans when complex flawed characters exist:
she's probably under the assumption that if she gets eliminated, she's just gonna go through eternal algebra all over again.
doesn't seem like she cares anymore even if it means that everyone else will get erased from existence lol
That crashout made sense but once she tried to change the universe she basically almost made the universe collapse then decided to blame winner for it shows shes selfish ig shes the new flower then
“Pencil Redemption Arc”
TPOT Voters: Yeah right like that’s really gonna happen.
*Proceeds to safe Yellow Face*
yeahhh that’s not gonna happen
Hope donut gets out when cloudyay is ufe
@@Cheetahhurricane tf did Donut do 😭🙏
I would vote for Winner to be safe.
Would save everyone else over pencil cuz karmas a bitch
At least yellow face stopped when Winner told him not to go to Dream Island, Pencil resisted.
I love yfs reaction here 1:13
“Really uncool today guys”
Yea really- Uh really uncool- Uh Winner!
_pushes winner to the side_
You go over there, and just- wait till we’re really to speak to you again
*Angry Yellowface mp3*
*Pencil looks at her angry team*
I can get why anyone would hate pencil, but her being the way she is, i’d say it’s good writing. Pencil has a long way to go considering that her team has been immune every time since she’s joined, so the writers are trying to keep her in.
hopefully she survives long enough to receive redemption
YEAHH NO. Sorry if this sounds rude but I disagree completely with all your points.
Your first point in which Pencil says that others can clean that up, she’s referring that she doesn’t care what happens anymore, if someone cleans it up, fine, if someone doesn’t, also fine.
Pencil is desperate here because everyone no longer believes she’s a good leader, and that was her breaking point. All of Freesmart has left her + nobody else believing her anymore meant that the world was over in her eyes. For Pencil, not being seen as a good leader is equal to hate, which means that she sees that everyone no longer trusts her and hates her now. The only way to prove that she’s a good leader and for her to finally prove to others that she’s not worthy of hate is to complete immunity. If she doesn’t, her life, everything, is over.
+ her “ego” isn’t rlly hurt, because her point was already proven with Book and Ice cube leaving her. If she doesn’t prove to others she’s a worthy leader, she has every right to assume that nobody will like her anymore.
Also she didn’t push Match away. In fact, she brought Match closer, trying to be as kind as possible so Match wouldn’t hate her. In fact, she doesn’t even like Match that much, but still spends time with her because she knows how much Match would feel hurt and probably hate her. This was proving by them hanging out for 7 years in the EXIT. Can you imagine hanging out with someone who’s overly needy for 7 years?
I fully stand with the point that she isn’t being selfish, she’s being desperate. Nobody likes her anymore, and nobody sees her as a good leader anymore. For her, it’s all over. The world is already over in her eyes.
The past is past, but the past also becomes the future. You can see that no matter what Pencil does in TPOT 14, nobody wants to hang out with her, she was desperate, the last straw was Book and Ice cube still not wanting to hang out with her despite Pencil trying her best.
After that, Pencil comes to the conclusion that if she isn’t a good leader, everyone will hate her, and everyone hating her means the world would be over.
Also the points you brought abt Liy is clearly bias. Liy is with a chill team meanwhile Pencil is with.. the bossy boy who disregards ppls feelings.
As the number one Pencil defender, I deem your point.. ILLEGITIMATE!! Haha, just kidding.
Pencil bullied spongy for no reason even when he was nice
Haha can't defend that take
@ except Match was the one who started to bully Spongy, making the game Spongy-Cake. Instead of endorsing this, Pencil was more concerned with the tests catching on fire. Then Pencil joined in so that Match wouldn’t ask more questions leading to a higher chance of match wanting to defy Pencil, and Yk Pencil likes to stay in control
yall running a scientific study over a silly web show
you literally ATE and said everything that was needed to be said lol
@rb.v wow.
I personally adore what they’re doing with her. It makes a lot of sense when looking deeper into her character.
Ikr!!! Me too.
0:15 liy has been in there a shorter time as well as haveing people like pen except her
By a few days?
That time difference does not matter a single bit
Liy is very comparable to pencil,no matter what you say
@TacokomiOSC liy was with stapy one of her best friends pencil was stuck with David and bracelety also like I said the people that liy new (bottle and pen) excepted her and talked to her when book and ice cube don't want anything to do with her she is scared of change while liy loves new adventures
@TrueMicrobe liy was rivals with stapy,and pencil had match
For a small duration tho,but in that duration pencil would've befriended David and bracelety,their teamwork in tpot 11 shows that
@TacokomiOSC I'm talking about when they had separated to find a way out of four and liy and stapy formed a friendship while match was a later boot none of her tpot friends like her while liy had people also the thrill of the adventure to escape four must of kept her sane
1:16 yellow face : WHY TF DID U MOVE WINNER AWAY FROM US>:(
Yellow fríes is really close friend of winner
@@rhythmheavenDamn I didn’t know Fries turned yellow!
Erm acthually pencil you were there for 13 years 🤓☝️
This is the first time yellow face had doubled lined angry eyebrows, y'know yellow face is pissed if he's using DOUBLED lined angry eyebrows.
I mean Pencil blamed his best friend for her actions so thats understandable
“BECAUSE I CANT GO BACK THERE!”
Pencil over here acting like the EXIT is still the eliminated contestant area
Ima just lock u up for 6 years and see if u have the same impression
Locked up for 6 years with bracelety david and 4 while also endlessly looking through doors for an exit
@@linhank5946 ok.
@@1971taks she seemed pretty content with Bracelety and David, and plus she had the option to travel with match.
@@linhank5946we already get locked in a classroom 6+ years💀😭🙏
Atleast she was written better than in tpot 14 WAY BETTER
If Pencil didn't want to face any consequences, then maybe she should have been more respectful in BFB 1. Golfball isn't even focused on the challenge and more on the events that are happening and she gets scolded for it. It's not Golfball's fault Pencil was eliminated back then. Pencil should have seen that coming.
I- Satomi WROTE pencil to rig her out of the game :/
@ipupi8784 but whyyyy 😭
@Jayden-fh1rkoh thats an easy choice she was pin in bfdia 14 15 16 but not 17 as shes improved alot in that episode which i think was needed as she was getting alot of hate and only was angry for 2 seconds minimum
As pencil being my favorite character, I've got to defend her.
She was trapped in the exit for almost 7 years. She wasn't the only one, but she was the first one, for a time, she didn't know what would happen next, if she would see someone else ever, or if she would be trapped forever.
And now that she came back, no one will tack to her, she is alone.
All of this suffering doesn't justify their actions, but it is not about justifying, it is about understanding.
How can you expect to someone, who was trapped for 7 years in a small room, that has no one to talk to, and doesn't know what will happen with her if she gets eliminated, to act in a reasonable way. It's impossible. She made something bad not for being bad, but for being sad and alone.
She doesn't need a new personality, she just needs friends.
Talking about fault, I still think Pillow is more responsible for all the past anomalies.
Edit: I've realised I forgot to talk about her playing the victim role, but it kinda explains with what I said before, someone who knows made a mistake, will try to hide it, or to blame another.
Again, it is not correct, but she does it to protect herself.
All pencil needs to be "better" is just someone to talk.
Two could be an interesting option. Now that gaty's gone, Two's gonna be lonely, and having a new character to talk to would be the best for both they and pencil.
Wrote a lot more than what I wanted. It's 7 am in my country, I can't sleep, and this is just an object show.
i understand it is in her character to make such decisions, but again, it does not justify them. she was written well in this scene, but what she did was wrong and you cannot defend her for it. some people like her for this, but i PERSONALLY don’t. you can like her if you want, i’m just giving my honest opinion. and as i’ve said before, i hope she stays for a while to get redemption
1:08 is it just me or did I see some red from Golfball-
She’s still more likeable than Pillow at least lol.
But yeah I can see where you’re coming from and this is showing me that Pencil could have an arc:)
Nah, pillow is and still being the goat
@@rhythmheaven so a crazy killer is being the goat? Damn bro that's mad funny besides how can you not see that Pillow is ruined?
@EmojiMarbles she's just being carried by the vote to be safe thing
@@hiimapie yeah because brain dead people are choosing her..........
@EmojiMarbles people like her nonchalant attitude
pencil is one of those villains who is doing something you dont agree with but its actually respectable why, you need to remember how her life was before, she lost pretty much everyone, has no friends left, was suffering pretty much with two people she didnt even like that much for so long and just suffering and whats the only thing she has left? the competition. Plus you need to realize that after the challenge they couldve tried going back and fix everything she didnt think that the yoyleite would just stop working, her wanting to go back too was just cause she wanted to prevent all of her own suffering, with no one left to care about she wouldnt mind about everyone else changing
I'm not afraid to say that pencil IS WORSE than flower
oh uh..
hey uhh IM GOING TO BURST THE BUBBLE for one flower tried killing eveybody permanently almost killed anouncer at the finale killed bubble and firey for absolutely no reason just because she didnt want to do the challenge and made bubble’s freindship with leafy end almost made bfdi ended 3 times nearly killed bubble permanently threatens to kill contestetants just because they wont do what she wants and yet pencils worse because she nearly caused it once and did blame winner which a
was pretty bad but hey depends on your view
This dude is the Karen of BFDI😭
Idk if is redemtion, but an end to this arc may come good, if they are keeping CloudYay safe, they might add more characters arc, like with pillow or yellow face
If Pencil was so affected by that, imagine other characters who didn't even rejoin in Tpot. like Dora, Stampy and Bracelety, I don't think they would be mentally well.
Edit: That Pencil is affected by that is very common on a human, Because a person's childhood, I mean when you go from 6 to 12 years old, affects a person a lot, making what happens in that stage of the life influence them in the future.
At least they are out of the classroom
well, we saw 8-ball get a good ending, where he ended up on the island with firey, who actually was willing to talk
I really hope we got to see every exitor in a different place
@@rhythmheavenfirey jr got a cabin while match has bubble and ruby so most likely dora we wont know were she is but david might be in david land stapy I DONT KNOW bracelety I DUNNO
@@v1rtu4l_marky39and plus 8 ball might help firey go to where a recovery center is which leads him into the tpot set and attemps to recover leafy but ended up not working as one kidnaped her just like gaty
This interaction between pencil and golf ball. This could be an arc between them, they’re both very flawed people that have been rivals for the longest time. Pencil cares too much about her own feelings to consider others, and golf ball cares too much about her own goals to consider others. Both of them prioritize what they want over what others want, and here, golf ball seems genuinely concerned by pencil. They could both have an arc together to get the growth they both need, and that would be amazing, pencil learns to consider other’s wants, and golf ball learns to consider other’s feelings.
0:23 umm she flew away in a fucking storm
I think she meant in the exit when making groups
@Pillarmaker sure but it doesn't change the fact she flew away in a fucking storm
@@Pillarmakeralso ruby and bubble went to bfb.
Idc if pencil changes or not, as long as Yellow Face stays in cloudyay will remain peak
I guess I won't save donut
I feel like her crashout was reasonable,
She was 1st place in TFI, Which is canon now in BFDI.
Then she got unfairly eliminated in BFDI and BFDIA.
She got out first in BFB, And Rebuted (Rejoin and debutted) Into TPOT.
She has no one to look to, All her friends are gone, and Nobody wants to be her friend.
And she knows if she is in the background in the episodes, people will forget her and she will be eliminated, not be able to make it up to book and ice cube.
I surely hope she does get an arc where she can let go of the past, and try to make new friends. Even if she almost destroyed the world.
If she doesn't, She fits the role so well for a villain character in the season.
She deserved to be eliminated in bfdi fm
she wasn’t unfairly eliminated in both bfdi and bfdia
@glucosity remember bfdi? She got out due to the scoreboard, pencil I found out was rigged in bfdia cause needle was supposed to be out, but it’s another TH-cam dislike extension problem
omg i completely forgot about the scoreboard,
you’re right
Bro this would be an incredibly good fanseries concept, after she went back to the past to change it, the whole timeline collapses back in BFB but this time she never got eliminated
Honestly that's probably where this is going this is HOPEFULLY a set up to a redemption arc
Her decision to fix her own past and reobtain everything she had is morally correct in her perspective, to her she can't fix anyone else if she can't fix herself
Btw, pencil didnt apologize to book n ice cube about her actions in BFB 1
Also I think it would be really cool if Pencil and Golf Ball got the chance to talk properly to eachother as I think they both have a lot in common.
They would make for good friends, and I think Pencil needs someone that smart to talk and understand her
Not exactly related to your video but... wouldn't it be cool?
She went full on delulu
Was that black text at the bottom of the video in 0:15 your thinking? I’m asking because I golfball didn’t saw half of what was shown. (Also what does “delulu” mean?)
yes it’s my thoughts. delulu means delusional
This episode genuinely made me like golfball which I never expected
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTAND HOW SELFISH SHE IS, I MEAN IF I WERE ROBOTY I WOULDN'T HELP THEM, I don't like Roboty but I think he deserved to join against Pencil
She does,
She only care about herself
you could say that pencil went crazy after being stuck with 2 people she dosen't really like for 5 years + the classroom for 1 year
They’re very clearly going to do something with her, otherwise cloudyay would’ve probably lost
Honestly you and I would act similarly in the same situation as her. You already got frustrated quite a few times when you have to wait too long in a grocery store, i doubt you would be even remotely sane if you were stuck in a classroom for 6 years isolated from the outside world, losing all of your friends and no one trusting you. The statement "I'll stay sane in that classroom" has as much vaildity as saying the earth is flat, unless you have the mental fortitude of a Buddist monk
You do realize this IS what they're setting up right? A character doesn't reach it's lowest just to be eliminated anymore like it was in bfb
I love her the more she stays in TPOT
after tpot 14 & 15, it’s either you love pencil much more or hate her much more 😭
@glucosity I actually really understood for her in TPOT 15, all her friends left her when she tried to make it up to them. I think she has gone a little mad but we should keep her in for a little longer to see what she does
I'm still voting pencil.
Real
Get out
Yeah we need a new arc
So i vote her so we can further understand.
Says the bro with the pencil profile picture
I feel bad for Pencil, like she just wants friends, also she didnt push Match away, she said theyll meet up later on.
bfdia 14 and idfb 1 says otherwise
@glucosityit’s been 10 years since BFDIA and 8 since IDFB in canon, her opinions on match have most likely changed in that MASSIVE gap.
I mean nonstop algebra for 6 years straight is enough to drive anyone insane.
Tbh I think this makes her more interesting
They are planning something with her but if she gets herself eliminated early she might be the most hated contestant ever
I still like her and this selfish personality just adds some nice flavor at times, and, as you pointed out in the top comment, Liy did get along better than Pencil because of her friends there, but Pencil is stuck with people she doesn’t like, doesn’t know, or doesn’t really care for much. I do understand why you wouldn’t find her good from her actions, but I think they add some flavor to the interactions and competition. Selfish personalities can be interesting in shows sometimes.
I agree with the title, not the video's contents.
1. Pencil is only referring to Golf Ball with being stuck in a classroom, Liy is not relevant in this confrontation between these two.
2. Pencil wants to be in a positive view by people, this is how Pencil is
3. She is saying how she hasn’t seen Bubble and Ruby since her elimination and Match was blown away in the wind
4.Uses book and icy not talking to here to support her struggle and why she dosent want to lose again
5 and 6. Both support how she dosent want to suffer that same fate of being stuck in a similar environment that if the exit
Not everyone is perfect and this scene is pencil venting pretty much, sure it may be selfish but I feel Pencil does have a reason to do the things she has done. Stop the hate (No hate to the creator of this video by the way)
This person ingnored all of pencils character development didnt they
As a Pencil fan, yeah, that's true
0:15 No kidding Liy was in the classroom for a shorter time
Still basically 6 years, and Bracelety was there too, they were both they for essentially the same time. And neither of them were feral towards anyone. Under any circumstance.
@@RainbowRain-x4yyeah well, people handle trauma differently. just because they aren’t acting the same way as pencil doesn’t mean they aren’t traumatised
@ivywt I never sent they weren’t traumatised. I said they weren’t FERAL.
@ why does that need to be pointed out tho? like i said, people handle trauma differently
I respect your opinion, but I think this fits her well. I thought this was a great scene.
The winner part was so funny to me for som reason
Ngl when pencil say that it hits hard like if she doesn't make the mistakes and she was nice then she would not get out in bfb
This is why i love her
I completely agree with this video.
"I tried to be a good leader, to be the one who got us out of there, and ROBOTY saved the day in the end..."
Girliepop, you told him he was dead weight and that you should just leave him behind. And you lead everyone so far already.
What's. Your. Point.
Way to go squidward
Yeah i agree she is very selfish
Her elimination was well deserved.
She literally made her team lose and she also says that she wanted to be a good leader (if we are going to jump and not tell lightning to fly).
what would you do if you were stuck in a classroom for 6 YEARS NO BREAKS NO FREE TIME JUST MATH
and not to mention twos area MIGHT BE UNESCAPEABLE
Two will prob let ‘em out
Pencil was a pretty sassy character in bfdi, pretty arrogant in bfdia, uncaring in idfb, and is cruel + all of this combined in bfb. 6 years in the exit humbled her, but broke her at the same time. Now she’s just a traumatized mean girl.
When i saw that winner scene i laughed my ass off because of the black text 1:06
Pencil won't leave cause it isn't vote to eliminate
in my opinion the reason why liy handled the EXIT so much better than pencil is because liy never really had friends and was clearly a loner. people like stapy and foldy didn't like her company and she felt completely shunned by her team when she was eliminated. meanwhile, pencil is someone who has always been social and has always been with friends/her alliance members, and then suddenly all of that was gone for 6 years. she may have had match for awhile and it can be taken that she pushed her away, but she was doing what was best for everyone. pencil even said "we can hang out all the time once we escape, but right now those guys need you". pencil clearly had the intention to hang out with match after escaping, but with her joining TPOT and match being flown to the pillary ruins, pencil is all alone once again
pencil didn't know and doesn't know how to properly cope with the EXIT, while liy was pretty much used to it. obviously liy didn't like it, but she was able to handle it a lot better
“liy seems to be adapting well”
liy had absolutely no close friends around her before she was eliminated, pencil was surrounded by all of the people closest to her before she got out and was seperated from them for years and now all of them are gone. this video is so tone deaf pencil wasn’t in the right or the wrong for this gut it feels cruel to just single her out when we literally see what it’s done to her
tbf she did have alot of things to uncover so she had a clean mind
yes, pencil’s actions aren’t justified, but she’s still really well written as a bad person. her reactions to her trauma are insanely realistic, even if it was borderline insane. i like her as a character, but not as a person. i think she very accurately represents a bad person. she doesn’t try and hurt others purposefully, but hurts them because of her own selfishness without realising. (not defending her btw!!)
Pencil's actually winning TPOT bro
pencil ends 😭😭🙏 oh pencil you will forever be loved
In my opinion, this makes no sense. She isn’t gonna help save reality just because she was trapped in the EXIT? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, how are those two related, besides her pride getting hurt? Pencil used to be one of my favorite characters until this scene. Before toddlers come crashing into my replies section, yes, I know what character development is, no, this is not a good way to set it up. Pencil used to be one of my favorites, but she got so much worse from this scene.
The worst part in my opinion is that NOW SHE HAS GLAZERS/DEFENDERS.
I know that I said this on another vid but I think it would be really cool if she had a villain arc then a redemption arc!
she’s already on her villain arc 😭
I’m going to vote golf ball next time cloudyay is ufe
I hate pencil she just forgot about Match and pencil is just selfish
I really appreciate you putting your opinion out there but I’ll clarify some things I would like to say , this crash and the way she is, is because of many things starting with her eliminations being eliminated unfairly in bfdi barley eliminated in bfdia 1st out in bfb and stuck in a class room for 7 years and only seeing your best friend for let’s be honest 1 of those 7 years really takes a toll on a character now I’m not saying what she did to the timeline was right but it wasn’t necessarily selfish I think she was scared of losing because of the unknown of what would happen after and she also has no friends she has no one there for her everyone sees pencil as some of the viewers see pencil tpot 15 was her breaking point her actions yes very wrong she did because at that point she would do anything then loose and everything was messed up already so in her mind with everything that’s happened I just don’t think she didn’t care i genuinely think she just wanted her friends back
And playing the victim I don’t that was her playing the victim I think that was her either not knowing what to say cuz she thinks she needs to be all strong leader and independent and good or she just wants someone to be her friend so bad that she makes it seem like it was exactly her fault and yes that is kinda being the victim lmao thank you for sharing your opinion, last thing i will argue I don’t think selfish was the right word ❤
She pushed it too far blaming winner
im sorry to say bud but i think u read her completely wrong. think about the fact that she constantly loses everything she strives to keep. we dont know what happened at the end of bfdia through idfb that made her become this way, but you can clearly see that shes lost alot if not all of her friends and no one listens to her, yet she still constantly has hope. she is always going to TRY and get what she wants but never will. and seriously, 6-7 years being locked away in the EXIT doesnt matter? pencil was basically forced to rethink everything she ever did to her friends, and i think its even clear to see that when match comes along they definitely dont have the same relationship that they did in bfdi and bfdia. things have changed, and its even more clear with match being eliminated before she could ever patch things up with the rest of her friends. i think instead of calling characters selfish instantly, we should just wait to see what bfdia and idfb have in store for us, because theres clearly something huge that happens to many characters.
oh and about the EXIT again, i think its safe to say she definitely has more baggage than some of the other characters in there did (such as bracelety or 8ball).
she risked all of bfdi’s existence just to try to save herself, if that’s not selfish idk what is
@glucosity ok im not really saying that it isnt selfish, but alot of characters do selfish or idiotic things, so i dont get why shes the only one to be called out. plus i believe she has her reasons as to why shes doing this, its not just to be selfish and get what she wants. i mean as u said she wants to save herself...i think she just wants things to go back to the older times that she had with her friends, when others liked her. it doesnt just have to be selfish for one to do that, it could be a number of things/reasons. and idk about you but ive had my own moments where id kill to be young and innocent and just do my own things all over again, so i actually understand her, wanting to go back and time to fix it all
I say I wanna explain how this is all 100% pencil's fault
1. she doesn't care about the fact that the BFDI world is about to end and only mins after this scene it actually happened BECAUSE OF HER
2. she doesn't realize that she WAS a good leader and just mad that she did NOT get credit, I mean hey be glad the viewers let you in
also don't forget that she made her OWN TEAM in the EXIT and GOT INTO TPOT
3. she still has been BUGGING Book and Ice Cube, so that makes sense. MAYBE PENCIL SHOULD'NT HAVE BEEN RUDE TO THEM, and you're still wondering why that hasn't happened is since it probably will happen in IDFB since they were friends in IDFB. Also PENCIL IS ON A TEAM THAT SHE COULD'VE MADE NEW FRIENDS BUT AFTER TPOT 15, SHE CANT DO NOTHING!
4. the quote "I CANT GO BACK THERE" will happen and also maybe she wouldn't have happened IF SHE WASNT RUDE AT ALL IN BFB 1 AND REMEMBER HER IDEA SUCKED.
CloudYAY will be cooked after tpot 15 with pencil
Imagine being in pencil’s life. Even if she is being selfish.. Liy probably loved adventures and was trying to investigate the door. So she had a fun time. But pencil on the other hand… She wanted to see her friends again and wanted to get her OLD FRIENDS back. Imagine being in a room/classroom for 6 YEARS. What would you guys do?
(Yeah this was me yapping. But I wanted to talk about pencil,)
i wouldn’t go feral, just like the rest of the exitors
@glucositythe basic response to being left in a place you don’t want to be for more than 6 months is definitely to go a little insane or for a lack of a better word, feral.
To be fair. She DID push match away.
Seeing as she didn’t give a shit about time itself. She may just be worse than BFDI flower.
Pencil is one competitive contestant, pretty much.. she doesn’t care if anything happens to something like if the world dies or anything, she just wants to get her team to win.
As i agree, that she did kinda push Match away, Match has been way longer in elimination places than Pencil herself, though in her shoes, 6 years with a number that would probably kill you if not complying to do algebra is mental destruction.
Pencil had a point about everyone pushing her away, pretty much GB has TB while Pencil up to this point has no one to be with her, if Match would of somehow watched this, she would of just had a mental breakdown seeing her bestie this insane and question if she is a real friend. And the fact that Pencil is for her comfort.
Both sides had their rights, however Pencil had few flaws with it imo.
Yet i like her, and hope she actually gets either comfort or maybe something that would maybe satisfy the viewers to not make her that insane.
No one talking about how cruel is pillow...
in tpot 15 she was kinda questionable, but really pillow is just heavily overshadowed by tpot 9, she’s a great character
To be fair, in this situation. She’s just a murderer. At least she didn’t outright try destroying time for her own selfish needs. She didn’t go ahead and try to rig the votes to get herself in BFDI or anything,
I’d love a Pencil redemption arc, however I doubt being viewed in a negative light for six entire years would change, not to mention her BFDIA vote stats is a major yikes.
thankfully, vote to save may save her for an elimination or two
Rerember pencils first word which is:really?
I think pencil has a point being stuck in a classroom of SIX YEARS! Imagine that happening to you. I think four is kinda trash for this
Her mental breakdown is understandable, but she still used Winner as a scapegoat. Which is why I hate her. And also, since its vote to save, Pencil is *going* to last a while.
Pencil haters trying to find ANY way to make pencil look like a bad person:
never hated pencil until tpot 14 & 15, which she just started going insane
She is
She got reasons, I dont really like Pencil, and TPOT 15 didn't changed my opinion-
I hate how characters being “mean” makes them get eliminated no matter how reasonable it is on their point of view
I mean, now that TPOT is VOTE TO SAVE she might survive over winner or pillow or even donut
vote to save probably will lead to donut being eliminated next time they are ufe