i remember being in a PSA gunstore and someone had seen am M723 and asked to see that M4a1. HE CALLED IT AN M4A1 NO JOKE. I died inside and the employee told him the history of it thank god.
Had something similar happen at a Cabelas, a teenager called a Pre ban Steyr AUG an "HBAR" and I cringed, I get it though most peoples exposure to guns is only from video games.
@@cloneordie3828 yeah. i wa at the range and some wanna be ranger kid was there shooting shit and acting cool with all the tactical expensive kit. but he was calling everything by its actual name and called every suppressor there a silencer :L . he then proceeded to "accidentally" shoot the steel that was only open to when they let us shoot at 25 yards for pistols and he was kicked out and was handed a 2 week ban and had his face put on the ban board. like when i first got into pistols i was shooting like 10 inch groupings at like 25 yards. and now im down to a 5 or some times 3 inch on a good day. BUT THIS KID WAS HAVING ALMOST 3 FT WIDE GROUPINGS AT 25 10 YARDS AND EVEN WORSE ON THE OTHER HAND.
standard for Air Force Security Police K9 teams in Nam. I carried one for my entire tour. Used an M60 sling and taught to fire it one-handed; Only had twenty-round mags and could only load 18 or it would jam due to bad springs and followers in the mags. Still, it was awesome.
thank you for your service, I can only imagine how much nicer it would have been to have carried one of these shorter rifles over an M16A1 when handling and managing K9s
Fascinated by the details you worked out for the replica. Just so you know, most of our weapons were parkerized a light grey as a field expedient once the factory finish gave way. The moderator was usually bright silver due to cleaning. One of the real drawbacks was the thin barrel. It was scorching hot after two or three mags. I''ve still got a picture of one of the guys in my section firing with and without the moderator, your term "fire breathing dragon" is very accurate. Thank you for an excellent and informative video.
@@richardelbert4412 even with the thicker barrel this thing heats up quick, I about burned my hand grabbing the front sight post after a few magazines while filming. I've seen a few photos of these rifles in Vietnam when they've had the finish wore off, the stocks especially seemed to lose their finish pretty fast.
Awesome video and I'm for sure subbed now! I've got an e1 and and e2 that I built. Pricing out a 607 build at the moment but dear god it's so much more expensive than the xm177s.
Thanks for watching and subscribing, a 607 would be such a cool build! I bet it will be worth it once its fully assembled, I've seen those reproduction stocks and I was tempted but I'm just keeping it in the xm177 family at the moment. Good luck with the project and thanks for dropping by!
Yeah, I think the route I'm going with is getting a slab side XM177 upper from H&R, then just swap the handguards out. I will say it's nice with the repro stock they fit on normal lowers. It just sucks it's 800 bucks....
I would be willing to bet there was a gas efficiency issue with that original colt carrier. Maybe leaky gas key, oversized bolt tail seal, or worn gas rings, worn out gas ring run. Something to note is that sometimes overgassing can cause symptoms that trick you into thinking that the weapon is undergassed, so it could be that as well. Without seeing it and gauging it i wouldn't know for sure, but figured i'd share. It'd be awesome to get that carrier up and running in that build.
thank you for the info, I was chasing the dragon so much with springs and buffer weights it never crossed my mind. I never altered the gas port and that was going to be my next move but now I'm going to run a few different carriers and see what happens, the carrier I used was the same one from the old worn parts kit I picked up. I really appreciate your suggestions, I'll be testing it out next time at the range
@@cloneordie3828 knowing what gas port you started with might be a key to knowing what's going on too. For a 10.3 MK18 from DD, its designated as .070. And I think SOLGW uses one ever so slightly larger, like .073. But MANY other companies have way huge gas ports such as .075 and in the .080's. If your gas port happens to be in the 80's, with a carbine buffer (even with shorter dwell time at 10") it may be enough to make it overfunction the bolt so fast that it doesn't pick up an new round (tricking you to think that its short stroking). Thats especially an issue with the 20 round magazines, because the spring rate in 20 rounders was designed for the slower cyclic rate of a 20" rifle gas system. H2 would be a minimum for me, but that does depend on the gas efficiency in the rest of the build. Gas tube inner diameter can vary as well, smaller diameters cause gas to travel faster and open the bolt sooner. I would say a standard gas tube would be like .110, but i've seen them down in the .090's. The range can vary wildly on those. I would recommend buying some pin gages. There are different pin size kits available, the range you'd want for gas ports+gas tubes is 0.061-0.250. You'll want "class zz" and you'll want "minus" gages. "Minus" refers to the tolerance of the gage falling on the smaller end of the spectrum, "plus" size gages are a pain for this use case from what i've been told, so I bought minus gages for this reason. Amazon sells a kit from HFS called "HFS(R) Steel Pin Gage Set Minus M1 ".
Im leaning more towards a 14.5 midlength following the carry handle clone path. About the same length pin and welded as a xm177 clone. Light, handy, nothing hanging off it besides a red dot. Just a generic 90s carbine vibe that isnt trying too hard to be anything "hard use".
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i remember being in a PSA gunstore and someone had seen am M723 and asked to see that M4a1. HE CALLED IT AN M4A1 NO JOKE. I died inside and the employee told him the history of it thank god.
Had something similar happen at a Cabelas, a teenager called a Pre ban Steyr AUG an "HBAR" and I cringed, I get it though most peoples exposure to guns is only from video games.
@@cloneordie3828 yeah. i wa at the range and some wanna be ranger kid was there shooting shit and acting cool with all the tactical expensive kit. but he was calling everything by its actual name and called every suppressor there a silencer :L . he then proceeded to "accidentally" shoot the steel that was only open to when they let us shoot at 25 yards for pistols and he was kicked out and was handed a 2 week ban and had his face put on the ban board. like when i first got into pistols i was shooting like 10 inch groupings at like 25 yards. and now im down to a 5 or some times 3 inch on a good day. BUT THIS KID WAS HAVING ALMOST 3 FT WIDE GROUPINGS AT 25 10 YARDS AND EVEN WORSE ON THE OTHER HAND.
I like your enthusiasm about your build. Well done.
Task&Purpose brought me here and I'm not disappointed. Great content!
Ahh my first M16A1 in the 101st in 1987 had an xm177e1 lower. I used to wonder what stories it could have told if it spoke English rather than death.
I slap with this thing on rising storm vietnam
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on rising storm 2 I love to collapse the stock on this thing and sweep a room on full auto, works like a charm
standard for Air Force Security Police K9 teams in Nam. I carried one for my entire tour. Used an M60 sling and taught to fire it one-handed; Only had twenty-round mags and could only load 18 or it would jam due to bad springs and followers in the mags. Still, it was awesome.
thank you for your service, I can only imagine how much nicer it would have been to have carried one of these shorter rifles over an M16A1 when handling and managing K9s
Fascinated by the details you worked out for the replica. Just so you know, most of our weapons were parkerized a light grey as a field expedient once the factory finish gave way. The moderator was usually bright silver due to cleaning. One of the real drawbacks was the thin barrel. It was scorching hot after two or three mags. I''ve still got a picture of one of the guys in my section firing with and without the moderator, your term "fire breathing dragon" is very accurate. Thank you for an excellent and informative video.
@@richardelbert4412 even with the thicker barrel this thing heats up quick, I about burned my hand grabbing the front sight post after a few magazines while filming. I've seen a few photos of these rifles in Vietnam when they've had the finish wore off, the stocks especially seemed to lose their finish pretty fast.
Love the Rs2 shout out 😊
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@@cloneordie3828 Yaaaaaaaah I kwill you GI! don't listen to anybody bro, it's NEVER gonna die! ;) subbed
Nice build
Awesome video and I'm for sure subbed now! I've got an e1 and and e2 that I built. Pricing out a 607 build at the moment but dear god it's so much more expensive than the xm177s.
Thanks for watching and subscribing, a 607 would be such a cool build! I bet it will be worth it once its fully assembled, I've seen those reproduction stocks and I was tempted but I'm just keeping it in the xm177 family at the moment. Good luck with the project and thanks for dropping by!
Yeah, I think the route I'm going with is getting a slab side XM177 upper from H&R, then just swap the handguards out. I will say it's nice with the repro stock they fit on normal lowers. It just sucks it's 800 bucks....
First time getting recommend your video. Subscribe.
thanks for watching and welcome to the channel!
I would be willing to bet there was a gas efficiency issue with that original colt carrier. Maybe leaky gas key, oversized bolt tail seal, or worn gas rings, worn out gas ring run. Something to note is that sometimes overgassing can cause symptoms that trick you into thinking that the weapon is undergassed, so it could be that as well. Without seeing it and gauging it i wouldn't know for sure, but figured i'd share. It'd be awesome to get that carrier up and running in that build.
thank you for the info, I was chasing the dragon so much with springs and buffer weights it never crossed my mind. I never altered the gas port and that was going to be my next move but now I'm going to run a few different carriers and see what happens, the carrier I used was the same one from the old worn parts kit I picked up. I really appreciate your suggestions, I'll be testing it out next time at the range
@@cloneordie3828 knowing what gas port you started with might be a key to knowing what's going on too. For a 10.3 MK18 from DD, its designated as .070. And I think SOLGW uses one ever so slightly larger, like .073. But MANY other companies have way huge gas ports such as .075 and in the .080's. If your gas port happens to be in the 80's, with a carbine buffer (even with shorter dwell time at 10") it may be enough to make it overfunction the bolt so fast that it doesn't pick up an new round (tricking you to think that its short stroking). Thats especially an issue with the 20 round magazines, because the spring rate in 20 rounders was designed for the slower cyclic rate of a 20" rifle gas system. H2 would be a minimum for me, but that does depend on the gas efficiency in the rest of the build. Gas tube inner diameter can vary as well, smaller diameters cause gas to travel faster and open the bolt sooner. I would say a standard gas tube would be like .110, but i've seen them down in the .090's. The range can vary wildly on those.
I would recommend buying some pin gages. There are different pin size kits available, the range you'd want for gas ports+gas tubes is 0.061-0.250. You'll want "class zz" and you'll want "minus" gages. "Minus" refers to the tolerance of the gage falling on the smaller end of the spectrum, "plus" size gages are a pain for this use case from what i've been told, so I bought minus gages for this reason. Amazon sells a kit from HFS called "HFS(R) Steel Pin Gage Set Minus M1 ".
Im leaning more towards a 14.5 midlength following the carry handle clone path. About the same length pin and welded as a xm177 clone. Light, handy, nothing hanging off it besides a red dot. Just a generic 90s carbine vibe that isnt trying too hard to be anything "hard use".
14.5 with a c7 upper is one of the simple joys in life. I love mine
Most people don’t know but the phrase “get in a tizzy” stems from getting in an autistic rage over minor non-clone-correct parts on ARs
i see you did your home work on Vietnam era speacial forces wearing a BAR belt how many mags can you carry in that
I can easily fit about 3 magazines in each pouch, if I stretch the canvas I might be able to get 4
@@cloneordie3828 I also heard that they used canteen pouches think you can fit four five in them
Thank god pistol braces aren't banned
Du ma my uncle was killed by one
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@cloneordie3828 not the gun but american with denim jean
This killed me
critically unsubbed channel. plz fix
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