As someone who beat a Digital Descent remake as their first Hard Demon (Different Descent by Danke), an increase of easier extreme-level remakes would be awesome. It makes these legendary levels more accessible to the community.
hey Wavix there's this geode mod that came out a while ago, it's called Click on Steps, it's similar to CBF except it's not tied to your polling rate. i haven't seen anyone talk about it and im not sure how it works but i'm sure it would make a decent video.
A level that I would love to see get a remake as it is very forgotten about despite being a former top 1 is future demoness. That level is incredible and I would love to see someone do a brilliant remake to the level
The problem I personally have with Remakes and Sequals to levels is they often lack the creativity and originallity of the level they are remaking. Remakes often do nothing new and recycle the same boring animated object spam style that everyone copied off of Culuc and Sequals never feel original because every part just looks like someone ripped off the original and made it harder. They often feel lazy, as if coming up with something new is far too difficult to execute that creating teams HAVE to copy a previously existing level just to get anyone on board. What i can never understand is how all the levels of recent that have been praised above others have all been original. Alot of creating teams think remakes and sequals are the only way to get creator clout but the levels that have the most impact on the game and are remembered in its history are the unique ones. Take Limbo for example. Literally go look at GD Team yt channels or Upcoming Extremes and they're like 99% sequals and remakes. It's sad and as much as i like the idea of keeping the memory of older levels it feels done to death and souless.
I kinda disagree but I also completely agree. The disagree part is from bloodlust, Deimos or keres. When a sequel/remake works, IT WORKS and can change the history of gd like bloodlust did. But the disagree part is when is doesn’t work. Like, at all. For example apocalyptic trilogy. It’s just a mess and it shows that buffing old levels to insanity just makes the level so bad.
i think that some do, however a remake shouldnt be made just for the sake of there being a remake. there has to be passion for a project, and a reason for it to be made. this is why cherry team levels feel boring, because they usually lack either of these.
it all depends on the quality of the remake, for example bloodlust, edge of destiny, and kenos are all good remakes, and avernus, acropolix, and riots demise are all not.
Here's my take, it doesnt really matter if who wants to make a remake of a level. Sure, some people hate it, but in the end, its just a game, just enjoy game guys, one level wont "ruin" the whole game
Imo, the only "remakes" that should exist are prequels/sequels or nerfing an old impossible and making it rate worthy. All the other stuff like "reimagined" is purely made to feed off the success of the original level. May be a bit of a hot take but I absolutely despise it when a famous level gets remade into 78 other levels, usually completely different but carries the name of the original level, dare I say Sonic Wave is an example.
Actually nerfing impossible levels is annoying af. You can nerf silent circles all you want but if the impossible level could be beaten in its original form someday, leave it that way. Takes away from the community milestone when you are nerfing the levels to be possible in current times
my take on people making remakes: if they enjoy making the level then i see nothing wrong (so long as it doesnt involve malicious acts such as stealing assets)
Day 22 of asking Wavix to do this: What if Zoink had a heart attack and died, causing Spaceuk to return to the community with no hacks. Then, with the help of cherry team, space verifies bloodlust 2 and becomes immortalized as the verifier. Alternatively, you could just have Zoink dying from a heart attack.
I like the idea of remakes of levels that wouldve been forgotten if they hadnt been remade. Stuff like The Hell Series, Elite Z Rebirth, Hate war, and Red World Rebirth. Sure the gameplay of some these remakes are questionable but they were still worth remaking.
I personally like remakes, as long as they either make their own ideas from said level or if they improve on already established ideas. I feel like Bloodlust and Freedom19, for those two reasons, are prime remake. Sequel levels are fine. No matter what path they take, it's usually good enough for me.
I'd love to see a remake of Lunatic Doom Machine, it's like 9 years old and an incredible level personally, would love to see it get the Bloodlust treatment (but with lots better deco, Bloodlust looks horrible)
This depends. If the level like sonic wave/an old level (before 2.0) then yes but if its after then no. Cause bloodlust remade bloodbath and EXTENDED IT Its mostly one.
Honestly, idc if a lvl is unnecessary or unoriginal, if it's good, it's good. Like people hate kocmoc unleashed for being pointless, which is true, but it's still beautifull, so why not
Making good and original gameplay is super hard, as anyone would know thats tried to make a level. That’s usually the first thing you do, so I imagine people give up and just say “oh well gameplay is already there and if I make the deco better it’s a guaranteed rate” and slap something together. I don’t think any remakes should exist unless it’s original gameplay inspired by the previous deco and not the other way around
Like nine circles/sonic wave for example. Deco inspired but completely different gameplay, and it worked and made 2 legendary levels instead of just more of the same. Even what I’m suggesting could get played out though just as the nine circles trend did
like, i know it's not about this video but i think levels like different descent (hard demon) is an easy remake of artificial ascent and i think that making easier remakes of hard extreme demons might be cool because players that aren't that good at the game can also try the top demons without having to suffer on a real top demon
Honestly most level remakes have been liked or hated // need or unnecessary. But to me, if the level does a great job at holding the levels concept and legacy then it is definitely worthy of being a good remake.
Here’s what I’ll say about slaughterhouse, as everyone gets this wrong, not so much nowadays though. Slaughterhouse as a level does not exist based off of Old Slaughterhouse, it is something different. Icedcave made Slaughterhouse when he was very young and put in very little effort intentionally. It blew up and became what people in the community knew him for. Thus, icedcave wanted himself and his legacy, at the time primarily slaughterhouse in broader consciousness, to be associated with something better, a legitimately good level. And so he produced new slaughterhouse. It was meant to capture the idea old slaughterhouse embodied, intensity, but do so better and to have a sheer intimidating atmosphere. And at that, as well as bringing a good taste towards icedcave, slaughterhouse was successful.
next sub goal should be to pass greenland (about 57k) now about the actual video: theyre never NEEDED, however they can be good after a certain amount of time. for example, i dont think its been long enough to warrant a kocmoc remake, but it has been long enough to warrant an acropolis or black blizzard remake without it feeling forced. (thepurgatory ON TOP.)
idk depends the level but people just be remaking anything today, i think if the level looks really outdated then ig sure remake it, but if its like death moon or black blizzard, these levels still look great today there is litteraly no reason to remake these
(I haven't watched the video yet just by the title) In my opinion No, i think its better to remake old insane demons and turning them into easy extreme demons
remakes are fine as long as it not the same level but harder (even worse if the gameplay/deco is worse then the original level) and different deco or an "accurate" remake of a over-all bad level
no. unless the original isnt rated. let a level be a level. not make 1000 remakes like sonic wave has 💀. i am remaking a old level that was bad and making it better that is different im just doing a 2 attempt of making it
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Yea it keeps the memory alive and there are great examples like bloodlust and edge of destiny
to be fair I don’t think bloodbath was going to die anytime soon
@@veejk-gn4opit really isnt
There are great remakes but there are also terrible remakes (opinion -->) ie. both zirokabi remakes
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As someone who beat a Digital Descent remake as their first Hard Demon (Different Descent by Danke), an increase of easier extreme-level remakes would be awesome. It makes these legendary levels more accessible to the community.
I’m terrible at the game so I really like this idea.
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hey Wavix there's this geode mod that came out a while ago, it's called Click on Steps, it's similar to CBF except it's not tied to your polling rate. i haven't seen anyone talk about it and im not sure how it works but i'm sure it would make a decent video.
A level that I would love to see get a remake as it is very forgotten about despite being a former top 1 is future demoness. That level is incredible and I would love to see someone do a brilliant remake to the level
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The problem I personally have with Remakes and Sequals to levels is they often lack the creativity and originallity of the level they are remaking. Remakes often do nothing new and recycle the same boring animated object spam style that everyone copied off of Culuc and Sequals never feel original because every part just looks like someone ripped off the original and made it harder. They often feel lazy, as if coming up with something new is far too difficult to execute that creating teams HAVE to copy a previously existing level just to get anyone on board.
What i can never understand is how all the levels of recent that have been praised above others have all been original. Alot of creating teams think remakes and sequals are the only way to get creator clout but the levels that have the most impact on the game and are remembered in its history are the unique ones. Take Limbo for example.
Literally go look at GD Team yt channels or Upcoming Extremes and they're like 99% sequals and remakes. It's sad and as much as i like the idea of keeping the memory of older levels it feels done to death and souless.
I kinda disagree but I also completely agree. The disagree part is from bloodlust, Deimos or keres. When a sequel/remake works, IT WORKS and can change the history of gd like bloodlust did. But the disagree part is when is doesn’t work. Like, at all. For example apocalyptic trilogy. It’s just a mess and it shows that buffing old levels to insanity just makes the level so bad.
@@eliburke2779keres is bad level
@@gmdksaz i disagree but you do you
Crazy good video
I love your content, it is really beneficial for the community as well, you always talk about great topics
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i think that some do, however a remake shouldnt be made just for the sake of there being a remake. there has to be passion for a project, and a reason for it to be made. this is why cherry team levels feel boring, because they usually lack either of these.
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@@acheron-i5d i dont really like acheron, its kinda a boring level (thats probably a hot take)
it all depends on the quality of the remake, for example bloodlust, edge of destiny, and kenos are all good remakes, and avernus, acropolix, and riots demise are all not.
what is avernus a remake of?
@@markodrazetic7077 the golden
@@chickennuggetgaming-kf4qf damn, didnt know that
calling Avernus a The Golden remake is like calling AA a cataclysm remake
@@projugofastall i mean even though it doesn't make sense, it is officially the "antagonist" to the golden.
Aeternuts has riot at gunpoint not to make a sequel
Here's my take, it doesnt really matter if who wants to make a remake of a level. Sure, some people hate it, but in the end, its just a game, just enjoy game guys, one level wont "ruin" the whole game
Imo, the only "remakes" that should exist are prequels/sequels or nerfing an old impossible and making it rate worthy. All the other stuff like "reimagined" is purely made to feed off the success of the original level. May be a bit of a hot take but I absolutely despise it when a famous level gets remade into 78 other levels, usually completely different but carries the name of the original level, dare I say Sonic Wave is an example.
Actually nerfing impossible levels is annoying af. You can nerf silent circles all you want but if the impossible level could be beaten in its original form someday, leave it that way. Takes away from the community milestone when you are nerfing the levels to be possible in current times
@@akwire4253guy have you seen the last wave? Lmao
@@Berserker51he’s saying that if it’s possible, then leave it at that
@@akwire4253 bro has NOT seen the last wave spam of silent circles LMAO
@@akwire4253did you mean silent clubstep?
my take on people making remakes: if they enjoy making the level then i see nothing wrong (so long as it doesnt involve malicious acts such as stealing assets)
One thing I want to see more of is easier remakes of popular extremes. Stuff like Sakupen Egg
Day 22 of asking Wavix to do this: What if Zoink had a heart attack and died, causing Spaceuk to return to the community with no hacks. Then, with the help of cherry team, space verifies bloodlust 2 and becomes immortalized as the verifier. Alternatively, you could just have Zoink dying from a heart attack.
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what if this gets made as his celebration for surpassing Liechtenstein
i feel this way about the wasureta series. i love the og level, but the sequels after that, to me, should’ve just been its own level.
bro started drama for a goofy milestone
CONGRARULATIONS ON PASSING LICHENSTEIN!!! Andorra next?
Greenland next
@@TheDoctorGDMarshall Islands next
I like the idea of remakes of levels that wouldve been forgotten if they hadnt been remade. Stuff like The Hell Series, Elite Z Rebirth, Hate war, and Red World Rebirth. Sure the gameplay of some these remakes are questionable but they were still worth remaking.
wait, he started this year at 20k? damn im getting old
Can't wait for The hell griddy by Evil Stormfly
bruh my geodes been downloading since you uploaded this video
I think its way cooler when people make a unique creative stuff but youtube seems to favour remakes way more than unique things
I have a very sophisticated method of deciding whether a remake is necessary or not. If it looks good, hell yeah, if it looks bad, hell no.
The Golden by Bo is the best old extreme demon, it does not need a remake since it is already good
The golden is a remake itself lol
Something That doesn’t need a Remake Is This Video 👍
Feels good to know I contribute to the overpowering of liechtenstein. Keep up them good videos
Ye we need 1billion sonic waves remakes
Plasma pulse finale waiting for a remake
i only see 39.8 so as far as im concerned liechtenstein is still ahead
heck you wavix, keep making good content
Lichtenstein is 39,327 according to google
Thats for 2022
Irs over 39,8k for 2024
I personally like remakes, as long as they either make their own ideas from said level or if they improve on already established ideas. I feel like Bloodlust and Freedom19, for those two reasons, are prime remake. Sequel levels are fine. No matter what path they take, it's usually good enough for me.
I'd love to see a remake of Lunatic Doom Machine, it's like 9 years old and an incredible level personally, would love to see it get the Bloodlust treatment (but with lots better deco, Bloodlust looks horrible)
Literally today Natural Disaster redeco got rated
Answer: Not really
Its cool to see a remake, but its not necessary.
This depends. If the level like sonic wave/an old level (before 2.0) then yes but if its after then no. Cause bloodlust remade bloodbath and EXTENDED IT Its mostly one.
In my opinion Extreme demons don't need remakes but some people like me love to make them
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i think people can build whatever they want and as long as its good, then i personally dont really care if its called bloodbath hell rebirth
Honestly, idc if a lvl is unnecessary or unoriginal, if it's good, it's good. Like people hate kocmoc unleashed for being pointless, which is true, but it's still beautifull, so why not
The problem people have with kocmoc unleashed is the gameplay is disgusting
@@TheEditsDaily yeah that was maybe not the best example but my point is that we don't care if a lvl is pointless or not
@@astrolab5389we? I mean I agree but I feel like most people dont agree
@@astrolab5389 who is we 😂😂 bro thinks we’re with him on this one
Guys i have a good remake idea! Sonic wave reborn x rebirth infinity eternal
Idea: what would happened if viprin never played gd
I suppose impossible level remakes would be a good follow-up from this
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Making good and original gameplay is super hard, as anyone would know thats tried to make a level. That’s usually the first thing you do, so I imagine people give up and just say “oh well gameplay is already there and if I make the deco better it’s a guaranteed rate” and slap something together. I don’t think any remakes should exist unless it’s original gameplay inspired by the previous deco and not the other way around
Like nine circles/sonic wave for example. Deco inspired but completely different gameplay, and it worked and made 2 legendary levels instead of just more of the same. Even what I’m suggesting could get played out though just as the nine circles trend did
like, i know it's not about this video but i think levels like different descent (hard demon) is an easy remake of artificial ascent and i think that making easier remakes of hard extreme demons might be cool because players that aren't that good at the game can also try the top demons without having to suffer on a real top demon
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Honestly most level remakes have been liked or hated // need or unnecessary. But to me, if the level does a great job at holding the levels concept and legacy then it is definitely worthy of being a good remake.
Here’s what I’ll say about slaughterhouse, as everyone gets this wrong, not so much nowadays though. Slaughterhouse as a level does not exist based off of Old Slaughterhouse, it is something different. Icedcave made Slaughterhouse when he was very young and put in very little effort intentionally. It blew up and became what people in the community knew him for. Thus, icedcave wanted himself and his legacy, at the time primarily slaughterhouse in broader consciousness, to be associated with something better, a legitimately good level. And so he produced new slaughterhouse. It was meant to capture the idea old slaughterhouse embodied, intensity, but do so better and to have a sheer intimidating atmosphere. And at that, as well as bringing a good taste towards icedcave, slaughterhouse was successful.
Maybe extremes don't need remakes but I need you.
next sub goal should be to pass greenland (about 57k)
now about the actual video:
theyre never NEEDED, however they can be good after a certain amount of time. for example, i dont think its been long enough to warrant a kocmoc remake, but it has been long enough to warrant an acropolis or black blizzard remake without it feeling forced. (thepurgatory ON TOP.)
Marshall Islands first
Saying grief wasn’t made for views and that icedcave doesn’t care if it’s top 1 is crazy cap
idk depends the level but people just be remaking anything today, i think if the level looks really outdated then ig sure remake it, but if its like death moon or black blizzard, these levels still look great today there is litteraly no reason to remake these
I Checked my FPS and it was over 300 which means I get to play the quadruple bypass demon
gg for beating azurite
tartarus should get a remake
Edge of destiny is the best remake
The only or maybe good remakes is like sonic wave infinity or Sonic wave eternity ( my opinion ). And in kinda hype for sonic wave eternity:D
We don’t need remakes, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad and shouldn’t exist.
0:29 why transcription enjoyed when it future
Yeah you're right
Sequels and better than remakes
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It depends
goodbye Liechtenstein
I want a remake of ice cream by cyclic, I mean come on, it has THE gameplay and has some deco.
Let’s see if we can get someone with the ability to make actually good levels to make it
good job on liechtenstein
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(I haven't watched the video yet just by the title) In my opinion No, i think its better to remake old insane demons and turning them into easy extreme demons
remakes are fine as long as it not the same level but harder (even worse if the gameplay/deco is worse then the original level) and different deco or an "accurate" remake of a over-all bad level
congrats on beating the population of lienchestien, now you are only 5m subs away from the Indian Congress
Low death is a good remake
What the Dinwiddle is Thinking space 2
Time to make sonic wave infinityx 15 pro max with extra rtx
0:51 maybe 100K
Probley not sadly
I dont think they do. I dont think impossible levels like arcturus should be nerfed to extreme demon either... my personal opinion
Id hit
Also yeah sometimes it will be good to remake extreme demons
Like the apt it just there to be top one so yep
7:37 this is exactly why people need to stop remaking krmal levels (please they are never good)
I mean freedom08 is pretty cool
no. unless the original isnt rated. let a level be a level. not make 1000 remakes like sonic wave has 💀. i am remaking a old level that was bad and making it better that is different im just doing a 2 attempt of making it
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Waterfall has good deco but probably one of the worst layouts i ever seen considering it's made by supposedly by pros at building
remakes are just old levels with modern deco
There’s nothing wrong with making a level based off of another one
YOU BEAT LICHTENSTAIN
Fact.
Have you made a video of migraine if not can you it’s a rly cool upcoming extreme
AYYY WE BEAT LIECHTENSTEIN LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO
we need a holy war in the comments
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@@Harrychu104 nah he said something would cause a holy war in the comments i forgot what i am forgetful man
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No they dont
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i hate that people treat gd levels like politics, like its a 1 imput autoscroller mobile game just make shit for fun istg 😭🙏
It's fun
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no imo