StarSn1per nah the Seiko maintenance crew probably added whiskey to the gears of the robot that sets the dials. The robot was drunk so it properly lined up everything. The next morning the robot started production with a big hangover, angry at whomever “spiked” its gears and vowed to never properly align a dial again. The End.
Watch geeks dont swim in the deep end of the pool. The 100m, dive rating, and screw down crown is a non factor. The new watch is superior in look, fit, finish, color, movement, and quality. And for the real price (not retail) its a steal.
A bit late to comment but I agree 100%. The criticisms of the 5KX line at the time of launch were overblown by watch nerds. These are quite easy to mod too and even with a nice set of mods you still end up not spending too much money.
I bought mine for 2500 mexican pesos, which is like 125 usd. Saw that price yesterday on Amazon so i had to pull the trigger. For that price is the best watch in the world i think. That was my second 5kx. I know it's controversial but I really really like it
I think it looks amazing. I love this shade of blue, the white chapter ring, these hands, the red tip of the seconds hand, the drilled lugs... There are some more really nice colorways besides this one. I don't mind the decrease in water resistant as I'm not planning on diving anytime soon, but I do mind the increase in price. I think that over all this watch isn't the flop people are sating it is. All that being said, I would like to have an SKX007 or 009 first. Great review!
I love my blue SRPD52K1 on an Oyster-like bracelet. I don't care that it's not a diver, but I can understand why people get disappointed if they think it IS. It is not. It's a 100 m WR sports watch. I don't think Seiko calls it a diver's watch anywhere - people just do it anyway, because it LOOKS like one. It's not a diver's watch. Get one if you need one. Most of us don't. Just checked: Mine is perfectly aligned. Not the most precise watch at typically -15 seconds per day, but it's perfectly within spec.
I've been wanting a skx with the 4 o clock crown, and exhibition case back for a while.. this is nothing but good, the water resistance realistically hurt maybe 1 or 2 people in the world. I haven't been caught with my pants down at 200m below the ocean yet
You can’t please everyone, Seiko always seems to win because the people hating will eventually love em. Great video , this new 100m is adequate enough for the all-inclusive vacation and you don’t have to mod one to find a dial combo you’ll like. In Canada you can find them for hair over 200 bucks. Not bad at all for a 4R35, nice lume, case and drilled lugs. You can’t have it every way. Theirs plenty of SKX’s to go around.
Wow! Talk about throwing a barrage of haymakers, I almost feel ashamed for buying not one, but two! Yes, both with miss-aligned chapter rings. But both are bright, cheerful and have a level of "coolness." And at the risk of being ostracized buy "true horologists," these watches will match my golfing attire excellently! I love em.
I don't care how nice the watch looks, that misaligned chapter ring would drive me bonkers. For the price they are asking, a screw down crown and sapphire crystal are in order.
Yeah the chaptor ring is driving me nuts,I've got the black dial version on order and hope there is no misalignment issues with the bezel and chaptor ring.I've just bought the blue dial nato strap model and thankfully its great
As usual, an accurate, well put together review that sums it all. Well done mate! And as you said it is the comparison with it's daddy that is ruining this piece. Otherwise it's a beautiful 5 Sports compared to other 5 Sports models. Although, for me it's the price that ruined it!
I don't think it's the proper perspective to say these are less capable or downgraded SKX's. Actually, these are some pretty great Seiko 5's with styling cues from the SKX.
@Dave Mendoza it's not. They're nice watches but they're not SKX's. To be a the new SKX it needs to be an entry level diver, that's it. We can trace it back, 6105, 6309, 7002, SKX. Doesn't matter what it looks like, just needs to be an entry level diver. If anything to me the new SKX's would be the current turtles.
To the enthusiast it's not, but to the shopper looking for a watch he likes the look of in duty free or a department store, it might as well be. And those are the people Seiko care about because there are a lot more of them.
Too expensive and poor quality control. Thank goodness there are aftermarket cases and plenty of parts available. That dial and chapter would look great with a complimentary ceramic insert.
Maybe I was lucky, but I got the black one with the milanese strap, and besides being very accurate (+2 seconds a day) everything aligns just perfectly.
i have the exact same black watch with the rubber strap, and everything also aligns perfectly with mine too. lucky as noticing a misalignment after buying it would drive me crazy
Whew! Makes me feel better about my 007. I thought the new one would be better in every way. And for the record, not ALL 007s have misaligned chapter rings. Mine is spot on even with a loupe.
@@bobklumpp8698 Yup, the general feeling is "Nothing to see here...move along..." Thought this might be a nice addition to my Orient Mako III but nah...not even close!
The 007 being the first watch the drew me into seiko. These seiko 5s are amazing and the logo is even cooler! Can’t wait to buy many of them and grow my collection
I'm fine with the 'downgrades' on this new model. Let's face it, no one today is actually going to dive with a mechanical watch. You can... but you won't. Modern day diver equipment makes dive watches redundant, if not obsolete, so the most water time any of these watches will get, is a few laps in a pool, or a frolic in shallow water on a picturesque beach. 100m of water resistance can more than handle both. Seiko gave us the features we wanted, at the sake of features we never use anyway. Fair trade imho
If idiots on TH-cam stop calling it the SKX replacement then it won't be so controversial... They are obviously an upgrade of the Seiko SNZF17 SNZF17K1 SNZF17K 5 Sports.
Yeah I picked up the “Blacked Out” SRPD79 from Kohl’s online for $180.00. Retail was $335 I think. No for $335 but for $180, I’ll take one. Sale is still going.
I just bought the SRPD79 stealth from Kohls for around 175. I'm happy with it, looks great, everything is aligned well. I put an aftermarket silicone band on it. I might buy the SRPD61 next.
Great review, I agree with you 100%, it’s not an upgrade but the downgrade, the biggest flaw is quality control. Seiko fanboys will keep buying them anyways, then why Seiko would bother.
I wish I can like this video more than once. I have owned a 007 (planning on purchasing it again soon), still owns 013 and 009. I got one of these 5KX models for free at a Seiko launch event here in my city. Loved the fact that I got if for free, but couldn't love the watch no matter how hard I tried. Next to my SKXs, the new one felt hollow, for lack of a better term. Sold it to a friend the same week I got it.
From what I'm reading in the comments, the misalignment is a hit or miss. I just ordered the SRPD51 and if it's misaligned, I'm returning it. I will probably stay away from Seiko for a while if so.
I don’t care about the screw down crown as I don’t really scuba dive and my chapter ring is perfect. In fact I don’t have a single Seiko with a misalignment... guess I’m lucky or bad at trig... I fell in love with this watch and it’s one of my favorites in my collection now.
Great video, you hit the nail on the head, the loss of the 200 depth is a deal breaker. I bought an SKX007 as a Diving watch, now it's an investment watch, in 2 or 3 years I'll be able to double my $215 investment. To me this represents what I saw go wrong with American Icon companies, they (the owners) started listening to the short term thinkers wanting short term profits. This thinking has killed our Automotive industry and a lot of other manufacturing based segments, look at Bulova, Hamilton etc. not to mention TV's, Pianos, tools and furniture. To compete the Japanese have excelled at long term planning and exquisite execution, but new generations come along and form over content becomes stylish, this is what I see here, a nice looking cheaply made watch with an iconic name.
I just bought this watch from Costco and I notice it stopped after 4 to 5 hours when I leave it with no movement. I exchanged it and the new one is the same , I think it had a power reserve 40 hours . Why is that ?
just purchased this exact watch (blue) and it is fantastic!!! silicone strap is very comfortable and will stay on this wonderful watch... was able to purchase at a kohl’s department store ( in the chicago area for, with sales tax included, $167 usd. It retailed for $295 usd plus tax but with the multiple sales kohls had at the time I got a price before tax of $154.68 usd!!! I always buy watches on line but stopped by the jewelry department at kohl’s and was surprised to see they had four seiko 5’s on display. had to buy it at this price!!!!
People criticize downgrade however remember Seiko's point is business business business! all the good divers currently in production are jacked up in prices under the prospex line. they will not realize more profits if they keep skx in market
1.) these watches DO NOT have weak lume. The lume in these watches is incredible. 2.) it’s not a dive watch. People who buy this watch are not divers. Please people stop complaining about a feature you will never use. You will not be going down to 200 meters. You will be washing your hands and going to the beach in this watch. 3.) it’s not more expensive than the 007. The 007 and 013 models cost way more than these watches. Most of these 5kx watches can be had for less than $200. Please don’t make a video and just say a bunch of untrue stuff.
IMO Orient is becoming the new Seiko. Their dive watches beat this new Seiko 5 "dive watch" line up by a lot. The Mako and Ray are much better watches and the Kamasu is an amazing piece on another level. Great and honest review though!
I disagree. This is not an "SKX 2", it's a Seiko 5. And a pretty damn nice one at that. But even if it was an SKX replacement I would still gladly take it. The lume is a bit of a shame yes but tell me: Who the hell actually used the 200m diver's water resistance anyway? And how many people would have been fine with "just" 100m of it? I'm going to say that not even 3% of the people that bought the SKX ever really used it to its full potential and in exchange for that nice but useless for most people feature you get a huge selection of styles, display case back, much more convenient non-screw-down crown, drilled lugs AND hacking and hand-winding movement. You all just throw away logic for the sake of having a cool text on the dial of your watch that you're never going to use, if you actually need that water resistance you have plenty of options but for the remaining 97% of us, this is a very nice trade-off. With this said, kinda like I don't want to give money to Game Freak because of the absolute mess that Sword and Shield are (nice games but I will not condone their behavior) I also don't want to give money to Seiko because of that damn chapter ring, beyond unacceptable after all these years. If I ever were to buy one I would buy it used, no doubt.
Maverick Bonato Who needs watches anyway nowadays according to Your way of thinking. It is clear example of less for more. Buy this and next time You will get even less fo even more.
@@wojciechpatalas6660 I was sure somebody would come up with that argument, I know far too well that if I were to use JUST logic I would not possess a single watch since "You can just read the time on your phone" and yet here I am with a 20 watch collection. Why? Because sometimes heart is more important than cold logic. Not always though. To me, anyway, the benefits of the Seiko 5 far outweigh the cons and when someone says that the SKX is superior because of a feature they absolutely never used totally ignoring what the Seiko 5 brings to the table I can't help but feel a little sad. Seeing people stuck in their way of thinking while willingly ignoring facts even though it could bring them happiness... It's a sad sight.
Maverick Bonato You obviously don’t get it. The SKX was a proper dive watch and I’m one of the people who actually went diving with my SKX. Obviously the SKX design was still important enough for Seiko to keep it alive. What I’ll never understand is why they just didn’t upgrade the SKX instead of putting out this SKX wannabe clone. Also, all dive watches must be certified according to ISO 6425. That means every watch of that series must undergo that test otherwise it can’t be sold as a dive watch, whereas of the normal watches only every tenth or twentieth watch will be checked and the test they go through is a joke in comparison to the ISO dive watch test. Ergo, a certified diver will always be a much tougher watch than anything else that isn’t dive certified, which is precisely the reason why that SKX clone is a joke. It’s also the reason why the SKX fans are upset because they’ve been begging for a hacking movement, a sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel and maybe some new dial color choices, but no, instead they put out this farce! Lastly, I’m pretty sure your house is filled with shit that’s completely over engineered for your purposes. Just a few examples, your stereo is definitely louder than you need and when was the last time used max temperature on your oven and how often exactly do you drive top speed with your car? The list goes on and on and on. In conclusion, the SKX is a beloved and proper dive watch and the new Seiko 5 is a fashion watch that cashes in on the look of the SKX.
I work for a Seiko retailer. We got about 20 of these in, in all the different versions. I was very excited at first, but upon looking at all of them, not one was properly aligned, and some had little issues like dings on the crown. I had a really nice modified Turtle that I sold to a friend and currently own a Solar Tuna as my “beater” watch. This new 5 is only similar to the SKX in aesthetics. It’s a nice Seiko automatic for someone just getting into watches that doesn’t want to break the bank. But I can think of much better in this price range. Mainly Orient , Spinnaker or Phoibos would fit the bill. That said, I’d go used at this price and get something even better. I just got a Bulova Devil Diver on sale, and despite its movement being “low rent” it’s a proper dive watch that ticks most boxes. Oh, and I really don’t like display case backs on divers. To me a display case back is a novelty. I’d much rather see a nice etched case back like Seiko does with the tsunami wave, or any other number of neat etchings from other companies. Ball does really nice case backs too. I’m not hating on this watch, but Seiko seem to be trying to play fashion forward over a “professional” tool watch. It’s not a bad idea, because after all they make PLENTY of legit dive watches for not much more money. This will sell very well for Seiko because 95% of the people who will buy these don’t care about us “watch obsessives” opinions.
Everything you said is true. Seiko, as a Japanese brand, should be very much ashamed delivering this new disappointing Seiko 5 line. But the truth is, they don't give a shit. It will sell just fine. The only people complaining, are the watch enthusiasts who know better! Just buy a Citizen or an Orient and get over it!
For the lume. It’s just that model you show here that has the blue, lesser lume. My SRPD65K4 has amazing lume, Seiko have changed the lume on various models. The stealthy black one having the worst /dimmest lume.
This series is not part of the Prospex range. It has been introduced as a non diver watch. So why does everyone expect it to have characteristics of a diver product ? Just because it looks like a previous diver model ? Yes do agree with the chapter ring alignment , but not a deal breaker enough to not buy it.
@@jlim003 People who aren't divers wanting dive watch specs is even lamer. Dorks who dont even go in the deep end of the pool complaining about 300 feet water resistance? Seriously? These watches are replacing the Seiko 5 Sports series. Their ISO cert watches are in the Prospex line. Professional Specifications
Tried this on my wrist at mall in Seville,Spain. Green version and I liked it very much. Even chapter ring and bezel had no issues. My only problem was 290€. We all know there are better options in this price range for what you get. But i definately gonna buy it when price goes down. My only advice would be to buy it in physical shop rather online and ask for a well aligned piece.
The models without the “patina” style lume are the same lume as the SKX. I bought one on a whim at a price I couldn’t pass up, and I am really enjoying the upgraded movement and styling. My version with the black dial and PVD case have the same lume as my SKX, from what I can tell. I think the community will have a new base watch to make modifications to, and the polarizing nature of the watch will die down.
Dumb question but.... if the case on the new is an exact size replica of a certified SKX.... then all we need to do is pop all of the parts into an SKX case and we’re done... perfection 😀
I bought the seiko five before I ran across Marcs-now I have both,I actually like the non srewdown crown on the seiko-its easier to wind when not wearing,and seiko lume can't be beat.That being said,Marc's is the better watch
Congratulations for another great review. Unfortunately Seiko really screwed up with this model. This is just another fashion watch and I am sure watch collectors will totally ignore this watch. 4R36 is a good upgrade but even with this it cannot compete with the real SKX simply because it has no status. SKX is a militant warlord. I hope I have made a point here. SKX007 & SKX011 owner here.
Seems pretty harsh. The only thing that bothers me with this watch is the misalignment of the chapter ring. I don't need 200m of water resistance. 100m is perfectly fine. Having to unscrew the crown to set the time/wind it is also unnecessary when you don't really benefit from the better water resistance. I like the look and I would buy a watch from this line-up. Nothing wrong with wanting a genuine dive watch water resistance certification and everything else if you think that's cool but personally I don't care much for features that are of no use to me. I'd buy a dive watch or a diver style watch because I like the look. I don't think there's any shame in that.
As usual. Evolution moves towards higher prices for less content. Always. I bet even the better movement is there just because nowadays it costs Seiko less than legacy 7S-whatever.
not less content, youre so wrong. the new movement is far superior to the 7s26. they just cut costs in other areas that if were being honest 99% of people dont care about anyway.
@@zazenzach5754 99% of people dont care about the "superiority" of new movement as well. You perfectly zero the second hand in the morning, by evening it goes completely off because the watch still has mechanical accuracy... There is no practical difference between the two. Hand winding - OK, makes sense if youre a watch fan and you swap numerous watches every day, but if you are not, its not mandatory. And transparent back has no use at all. I doubt its cost has been cut as compared to plain steel though.
I'm not planning on going diving with one, would I still be getting ripped off when buying it as I have gshocks for that. Would it be a good deal for me
@@KarlKrogmann, yup I get a kick out the Seiko fanboys trying to defend the poor quality control watches Seiko sells. Just a twist on the emperor's new clothes. LMAO!
Just a note on the fat spring bars: I have a prospex SNE498 and my fat spring bars pop off all the time. I think it's because the ends of the spring bars are rounded.
They only had to drill the lugs, give us new colors, a new movement and maybe a better strap. That's it. I still think that Seiko will release one as a Prospex special edition or even make it a general Release.
@@APPLEPIE978 my islander should arrive tomorrow, I'll test it in diving conditions the same day into the "Lac du Bourget" here in Aix les Bains (France), approx 140m.
personaly, i wouldn't buy anything from Mark from Long Island. and that Islander looks boring and overpriced (which goes for most of their merchandise)
@4:55 Seiko really screwed up the curvature of that hair spring. It's flexing like mad against the regulator but not moving at all from the regulator to the stud.
I just got the exact same model for 163 Euros so I can forgive it not being water resistant to 200m Overall a great watch if you can forget about the legacy it's trying to continue
Honestly, the only issue I have with these is the chapter ring being misaligned, there really is no excuse for that. Otherwise, I've seen a lot of whining that it lacks the diver specs of an SKX. In 99.9% of cases though, this is a pointless argument because none of these watches would ever be brought to a pressure depth anywhere near their rating. While the different in dive rating might seem to represent an overall reduction in quality, this is also superfluous, as anything besides ingress that would damage this would have also damaged an SKX (besides potentially a strike to the case back, but I'd bet that represents an exceedingly minor difference in potential risk). At the end of the day, the only people who are mad about this are the people who are invested, be it financially or emotionally, in the SKX. You are not the market for this watch. Seiko is perfectly happy for you to throw your arms up in the air and say "I'm buying an Orient instead!" because they own Orient. These are basically Seiko's take on making an attractive, inexpensive lineup in the vein of Swatch. And yes, these are a) still really not particularly expensive, and b) will go down in price over time as the market saturates Given that these also simply don't exist on the grey market at this point, the chapter ring issue should ultimately be a non-issue for quite a while. This is because, as it stands currently, the only place people should be getting these from is an authorized dealer, a company that has a business relationship with Seiko and will either be able to provide support in case a watch is defective or will be careful enough not to sell a watch with a chapter ring misalignment in the first place.
Already in the closeup shot at the beginning of the video I can see the misaligned bezel, and Seiko wants double the money for it? lol If you buy it, that means you're supporting Seiko's poor quality control.
Real one? are. you saying the k model is not real PT111111. Both the J and the K models are easy to get, I got one 2 weeks ago online brand new and allinged.
I love the new 5s I just bought 2. I also know SKX guys that are hating on the 5 because it's less waterproof! But these are the same guys that wont even shower in there SKX !! I personally have done free diving in my old seiko 5 sport with no problems yet my friends that complain about the waterproof rating will put there watches in there pockets when it's raining out lol I just dont get it. And I would bet my paycheck that Seiko comes out with a new skx that has a better movement the new 5 is not a replacement skx it's a replacement 5
If you want perfection, spend more. You won't find these shortcomings in their Turtle and Tuna models, or even the ones higher than them. What Seiko has done with this watch is amazing. They've cut just the right corners to provide you with an amazing watch, with an upgraded movement, at one heck of a price.
It is a curious thing, to ponder why Seiko deliberately chooses to meticulously fix so many of the pet hates of the classic 007 crowd and then, for reasons known perhaps only by the Buddha, dammit, the company just quit working on it, only an eighth of a tone away from what everybody knew would be a perfect chord. They had to know that was what the 007 partisans wanted - and they just said, "No" - and without a public explanation. Nobody at Seiko could come up with anything believable. So they pretended the disharmony was what they wanted, all along. If, of course, they noticed the disharmony at all. Let's all give them a big, "Banzai!"- but leave it just a tad out of key. Think they will notice?
It's a Seiko 5 line. A dive style watch. 100m water resistance isn't bad. Just get a friggin' SKX then if you want 200m or a G-Shock for that matter. It's meant as a gateway watch for many people who are getting in to wrist watches or horology. And about the misalignment, Seiko doesn't care still you buy them.
i picked up one of these a few days ago and i love it! 100m water resistance is a non issue for me and probably many average consumers. im terrified of deep water, cant swim well to save my life and where i live the deepest water for hundreds of km is no deeper than 10 or 15m and if i am in that water send help because im not meant to be in it! my only regret about it is i did not get the blue and white one like this one
@@bobklumpp8698 it's really more of an extra point of possible failure than an actual reduction in water resistance. In that sense your totally right, it's not as reliable but even then it's still going to be plenty water resistant for a long time. Some of Omega's Ploprof watches have exhibition casebacks and maintain a 1200m diver-certified water resistance, and the Planet Ocean has 600m wr, there's more examples besides omega but that's just what came to mind. Maybe at extreme depths it certainly matters but it's still possible to reliably achieve these levels of water resistance with a displayback. But when we're talking about the difference between 100m wr and diver-certified 200m wr on an inexpensive Seiko, the loss of wr in this instance is more likely due to the lack of a screw down crown and insufficient seals compared to the SKX as opposed to the displayback. As for Rolex I speculate it's more because their movements aren't really decorated at all. And I don't see anyone taking their Day-Date diving diving deep enough to matter. Sorry for the long post, I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything it's just something that I respectfully disagree with you on. That said though, I did enjoy the video.
They got it half right. Still with the Hardlex though. I have seen this one in a shop and I thought it looked cheap. Too shiny. Too expensive. I bought a Vostok Amphibia instead 160271 for a quarter of the price. I love it. I have a Seiko 5 with the 7009 movement from the 1980s when Seiko still knew how to make a great watch. A watch with history. I
Losing 200 m water resistance in a price paid for adhering to the expectations of younger generations. This has been a perhaps too harsh criticism from an old watch collector. And I fully agree that a misaligned chapter ring is a quality issue which can't be defended at all. However, I believe that with 5KX Seiko is in fact returning to the initial rationale behind Seiko 5: it is meant to be the first mechanical watch (or at least someone's first Seiko watch). Generations change and their expectations change with them, too. Young people use smartwatches. These might have lots of smart features. but are short-lived. They generally have a 3-5 years service life and require charging every few days. If younger people are drawn to mechanical watches, this comes out of curiosity and fascination with precision mechanics. They want an attractive dial and a transparent caseback to enjoy the movement. Having a transparent caseback means you can't have 200m water resistance. A screw down crown makes no sense at all then! Besides, let's be honest about SKXs: the overwheming majority of SKX owners are desk divers. Sticking to water resistance of 200 m is ridiculous if you don't go scuba diving. New Seiko 5 is not primarily meant for old watch lovers. The 5KX series has a better movement, more attractive dials, drilled lugs for fast strap-changing and a transparent caseback. Everything SKXs, the respected tool watches, lacked. In fact, this new series can foster the interest of younger generations and prove very useful to the watchmaking industry. With this approach in mind I have recently bought one of the new models and I like it a lot. I'm surprised myself that it's a keeper. The design reminds me of some Spinnaker model which I somehow couldn't pull the trigger for. For swimming I still have a decent (but bulky and unwieldy) Prospex diver. For 'desk diving' and everyday use I wear and enjoy my Seiko 5KX. My piece is very accurate and keeps excellent time. The chapter ring is perfectly aligned, even the bezel seems to be well aligned. Maybe they have improved quality a bit (which might be a temporary change, I know). Cheers.
Saw a pic of the blue 4th Gen Monster, also with blue lume. I don't think it's inherently going to appear as bright as green. That may just be a function of light wavelength and not lumens? I'm less concerned about the misaligned chapter ring since any geek if gonna open even an SKX up and fix that. Seiko's $100-$200 (street prices) diver models are littered with too-big, or too garish, or almost-right designs in many cases. Not all of them of course. Once these settle down to that amount (assuming they do) they'll be solid choices.
It's not s new SKX , it's s new Seiko sports. Nothing wrong with that. They're nice Seiko 5's, but please don't link them to the SKX. They're not even divers.
For the price range, it should have a sapphire crystal, 200bar water resistance, screw-down crown and an aligned chapter ring! This watch won't be on my wanted list. I'll stay with my Orient Mako III
I think they should've just done all that and made it one of the more inexpensive pieces in the Prospex line. Instead of making it one of the most expensive Seiko 5's
@@ElliotDrinksWater Yes they've definitely got their logistic/stratagem mixed up in the classic juxtaposition! Probably executed in the heat and excitement of the moment knowing that they have a legendary model on their hands...the superlative SKX line. They should've spent more time (ironically) deducing the right elements, they didn't and the result...they haven't got it right...they fucked up!😔Which is a bloody shame!
It's an anti-counterfeit feature. When everything lines up nicely, it's a fake.
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Or a mod :)))
I have the burgundy red one and everything aligns perfectly lol Guess it must be fake even though i bought it from a Seiko retailer.
Hahaha
StarSn1per nah the Seiko maintenance crew probably added whiskey to the gears of the robot that sets the dials. The robot was drunk so it properly lined up everything. The next morning the robot started production with a big hangover, angry at whomever “spiked” its gears and vowed to never properly align a dial again. The End.
Watch geeks dont swim in the deep end of the pool. The 100m, dive rating, and screw down crown is a non factor. The new watch is superior in look, fit, finish, color, movement, and quality. And for the real price (not retail) its a steal.
100 %. I got mine on sales . 30% off . I'm happy .
A bit late to comment but I agree 100%. The criticisms of the 5KX line at the time of launch were overblown by watch nerds. These are quite easy to mod too and even with a nice set of mods you still end up not spending too much money.
Thanks! That's a beauty alright.
Don't care about the non-screwdown crown... I love the handwind and hacking! And all the color ways!
I bought mine for 2500 mexican pesos, which is like 125 usd. Saw that price yesterday on Amazon so i had to pull the trigger. For that price is the best watch in the world i think. That was my second 5kx. I know it's controversial but I really really like it
Why is it so hard for them to line them up properly? There's no excuse.
I think it is their branding strategy so that the customers would go for their higher variants
Bio-plasmic Toad my 5ks lines up perfectly.....
Mine is lined up, not sure if I'm lucky or anything... This watch is gorgeous, and it's an conversation starter!
I think it looks amazing. I love this shade of blue, the white chapter ring, these hands, the red tip of the seconds hand, the drilled lugs... There are some more really nice colorways besides this one. I don't mind the decrease in water resistant as I'm not planning on diving anytime soon, but I do mind the increase in price. I think that over all this watch isn't the flop people are sating it is. All that being said, I would like to have an SKX007 or 009 first. Great review!
I love my blue SRPD52K1 on an Oyster-like bracelet. I don't care that it's not a diver, but I can understand why people get disappointed if they think it IS. It is not. It's a 100 m WR sports watch. I don't think Seiko calls it a diver's watch anywhere - people just do it anyway, because it LOOKS like one. It's not a diver's watch. Get one if you need one. Most of us don't. Just checked: Mine is perfectly aligned. Not the most precise watch at typically -15 seconds per day, but it's perfectly within spec.
It’s my favorite watch in my collection for the moment! The watch is not perfect but I still love it.
Same here and I've got 47 to choose from ;)
Northwest Reefer I forgot I even wrote this I traded it after two weeks with the blue dial king turtle lol
I've been wanting a skx with the 4 o clock crown, and exhibition case back for a while.. this is nothing but good, the water resistance realistically hurt maybe 1 or 2 people in the world.
I haven't been caught with my pants down at 200m below the ocean yet
If was that far under water it would Be because Tony Saprano tied an anchor to me,
You can’t please everyone, Seiko always seems to win because the people hating will eventually love em.
Great video , this new 100m is adequate enough for the all-inclusive vacation and you don’t have to mod one to find a dial combo you’ll like.
In Canada you can find them for hair over 200 bucks. Not bad at all for a 4R35, nice lume, case and drilled lugs. You can’t have it every way. Theirs plenty of SKX’s to go around.
Wow! Talk about throwing a barrage of haymakers, I almost feel ashamed for buying not one, but two! Yes, both with miss-aligned chapter rings. But both are bright, cheerful and have a level of "coolness." And at the risk of being ostracized buy "true horologists," these watches will match my golfing attire excellently! I love em.
I love the SKX, but with the green dial Kamasu you get a lot more.
I don't care how nice the watch looks, that misaligned chapter ring would drive me bonkers. For the price they are asking, a screw down crown and sapphire crystal are in order.
San Martin 62 mas offers all of that but is sadly a hommage.
Agreed, that chapter ring is pathetic...
I could get a swiss army or tissot for the same price which have almost no QC issues.
Nice try, but no cigar
Yeah the chaptor ring is driving me nuts,I've got the black dial version on order and hope there is no misalignment issues with the bezel and chaptor ring.I've just bought the blue dial nato strap model and thankfully its great
@@marksaywood54 I just picked up the stealth version as a casual, every day watch, and the chapter ring is aligned perfectly! I was shocked!
As usual, an accurate, well put together review that sums it all. Well done mate! And as you said it is the comparison with it's daddy that is ruining this piece. Otherwise it's a beautiful 5 Sports compared to other 5 Sports models. Although, for me it's the price that ruined it!
I have this exactly same watch, and I'm loving it! Not goin 100+ underwater anyway, I understand you point! But still the best o looking watch I have
I don't think it's the proper perspective to say these are less capable or downgraded SKX's.
Actually, these are some pretty great Seiko 5's with styling cues from the SKX.
Picked up the olive one from the sense line and I have no QC issues on mine. One of my favs and I get a ton of compliments.
It's simple: the new Seiko 5 Sports "are not" the successor of SKX.
Leya Y exactly!
Still don't know why some people believe this is some kind of successor...
@Dave Mendoza Seiko knows what is and how to make a professional diver.
@Dave Mendoza it's not. They're nice watches but they're not SKX's. To be a the new SKX it needs to be an entry level diver, that's it. We can trace it back, 6105, 6309, 7002, SKX. Doesn't matter what it looks like, just needs to be an entry level diver. If anything to me the new SKX's would be the current turtles.
To the enthusiast it's not, but to the shopper looking for a watch he likes the look of in duty free or a department store, it might as well be. And those are the people Seiko care about because there are a lot more of them.
Too expensive and poor quality control. Thank goodness there are aftermarket cases and plenty of parts available. That dial and chapter would look great with a complimentary ceramic insert.
Maybe I was lucky, but I got the black one with the milanese strap, and besides being very accurate (+2 seconds a day) everything aligns just perfectly.
i have the exact same black watch with the rubber strap, and everything also aligns perfectly with mine too. lucky as noticing a misalignment after buying it would drive me crazy
i got the gunmetal strap and everything is align hahhahahaha lucky me
It is probably a counterfeit 😂
All they had to do was put the "new" movement in the old case and it's good for another 20 years. I wont be touching these.
Whew! Makes me feel better about my 007. I thought the new one would be better in every way.
And for the record, not ALL 007s have misaligned chapter rings. Mine is spot on even with a loupe.
@@bobklumpp8698 Yup, the general feeling is "Nothing to see here...move along..." Thought this might be a nice addition to my Orient Mako III but nah...not even close!
Been my daily wear since 2020. Amazing watch. Elegant but not too flashy.
The 007 being the first watch the drew me into seiko. These seiko 5s are amazing and the logo is even cooler! Can’t wait to buy many of them and grow my collection
That chapter ring breaks my heart
Mine too, I've moved off of Seiko divers for this reason 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Lamar Faciane why not just buy one with a matching ring? They have 27 variants
I think they are referring to the chapter ring alignment, not color
I'm fine with the 'downgrades' on this new model. Let's face it, no one today is actually going to dive with a mechanical watch. You can... but you won't. Modern day diver equipment makes dive watches redundant, if not obsolete, so the most water time any of these watches will get, is a few laps in a pool, or a frolic in shallow water on a picturesque beach. 100m of water resistance can more than handle both.
Seiko gave us the features we wanted, at the sake of features we never use anyway. Fair trade imho
If idiots on TH-cam stop calling it the SKX replacement then it won't be so controversial... They are obviously an upgrade of the
Seiko SNZF17 SNZF17K1 SNZF17K 5 Sports.
Thank you for watching
@@WatchGeek to be fair I stoped watching after listening to your wrong reasoning for calling git a six replacement.
You presented here THE BEST review/analysis of this release (in my view). Well done, sir!
Thanks 😀
it's a beautiful watch...and with regards to the quality - how many people actually go diving anyway?
Not a single one.
TheWeardale1 just the type where timing would be inappropriate....
It's a nice watch for modding. Don't believe the price. During Black Friday, you can already get them for ~$160+ at Kohl's and Macy's.
Yeah I picked up the “Blacked Out” SRPD79 from Kohl’s online for $180.00. Retail was $335 I think. No for $335 but for $180, I’ll take one. Sale is still going.
I just bought the SRPD79 stealth from Kohls for around 175. I'm happy with it, looks great, everything is aligned well. I put an aftermarket silicone band on it. I might buy the SRPD61 next.
That’s rubber strap is extremely comfortable.
Great review, I agree with you 100%, it’s not an upgrade but the downgrade, the biggest flaw is quality control. Seiko fanboys will keep buying them anyways, then why Seiko would bother.
I wish I can like this video more than once. I have owned a 007 (planning on purchasing it again soon), still owns 013 and 009. I got one of these 5KX models for free at a Seiko launch event here in my city. Loved the fact that I got if for free, but couldn't love the watch no matter how hard I tried. Next to my SKXs, the new one felt hollow, for lack of a better term. Sold it to a friend the same week I got it.
Yet another homage to a proper discontinued seiko - from seiko.
From what I'm reading in the comments, the misalignment is a hit or miss. I just ordered the SRPD51 and if it's misaligned, I'm returning it. I will probably stay away from Seiko for a while if so.
I don’t care about the screw down crown as I don’t really scuba dive and my chapter ring is perfect. In fact I don’t have a single Seiko with a misalignment... guess I’m lucky or bad at trig... I fell in love with this watch and it’s one of my favorites in my collection now.
Guess I got lucky too haha. I got the green strap one. It's one of my favorites right now.
Great video, you hit the nail on the head, the loss of the 200 depth is a deal breaker. I bought an SKX007 as a Diving watch, now it's an investment watch, in 2 or 3 years I'll be able to double my $215 investment. To me this represents what I saw go wrong with American Icon companies, they (the owners) started listening to the short term thinkers wanting short term profits. This thinking has killed our Automotive industry and a lot of other manufacturing based segments, look at Bulova, Hamilton etc. not to mention TV's, Pianos, tools and furniture. To compete the Japanese have excelled at long term planning and exquisite execution, but new generations come along and form over content becomes stylish, this is what I see here, a nice looking cheaply made watch with an iconic name.
Trying to make investments with watches is laughable. Also, you don't know anyone who is able to dive to 200m.
@@TheShockwave44 Actually I have, Navy Salvage Dive
I just bought this watch from Costco and I notice it stopped after 4 to 5 hours when I leave it with no movement. I exchanged it and the new one is the same , I think it had a power reserve 40 hours . Why is that ?
Fall in love with these watch... even though i had both skx007/009😘😘thanks for the video
just purchased this exact watch (blue) and it is fantastic!!!
silicone strap is very comfortable and will stay on this wonderful watch...
was able to purchase at a kohl’s department store ( in the chicago area for, with sales tax included, $167 usd. It retailed for $295 usd plus tax but with the multiple sales kohls had at the time I got a price before tax of $154.68 usd!!!
I always buy watches on line but stopped by the jewelry department at kohl’s and was surprised to see they had four seiko 5’s on display. had to buy it at this price!!!!
Pure Seiko, misaligned chapter ring 🤦🏽♂️ I just flipped a Save the Ocean Turtle for the same problem.
Love your macro shots bro. This shows how great/lousy of the finishings of a watch. Keep it up.
People criticize downgrade however remember Seiko's point is business business business! all the good divers currently in production are jacked up in prices under the prospex line. they will not realize more profits if they keep skx in market
1.) these watches DO NOT have weak lume. The lume in these watches is incredible.
2.) it’s not a dive watch. People who buy this watch are not divers. Please people stop complaining about a feature you will never use. You will not be going down to 200 meters. You will be washing your hands and going to the beach in this watch.
3.) it’s not more expensive than the 007. The 007 and 013 models cost way more than these watches. Most of these 5kx watches can be had for less than $200.
Please don’t make a video and just say a bunch of untrue stuff.
IMO Orient is becoming the new Seiko. Their dive watches beat this new Seiko 5 "dive watch" line up by a lot. The Mako and Ray are much better watches and the Kamasu is an amazing piece on another level. Great and honest review though!
I'm already receive mine, is not misaligned and i think is a great looking watch.
The new 5KX designs are really attractive ! The inclusion of drilled lugs is very thoughtful of Seiko.
Your closing comments here are great, and I was pleased you had the courage ad conviction to end on a pessimistic note. Good going!
The most honest rewiew on this new seiko line than i have seen yet! The legend diver has become an fashion victim , it is a bit sad really.
Thanks
Yeah because people were diving with their skxs
@@mahmam3128 I drive with my SKX.
@@JeeGee114 lol my bad, fixed now
I disagree. This is not an "SKX 2", it's a Seiko 5. And a pretty damn nice one at that. But even if it was an SKX replacement I would still gladly take it. The lume is a bit of a shame yes but tell me: Who the hell actually used the 200m diver's water resistance anyway? And how many people would have been fine with "just" 100m of it? I'm going to say that not even 3% of the people that bought the SKX ever really used it to its full potential and in exchange for that nice but useless for most people feature you get a huge selection of styles, display case back, much more convenient non-screw-down crown, drilled lugs AND hacking and hand-winding movement. You all just throw away logic for the sake of having a cool text on the dial of your watch that you're never going to use, if you actually need that water resistance you have plenty of options but for the remaining 97% of us, this is a very nice trade-off.
With this said, kinda like I don't want to give money to Game Freak because of the absolute mess that Sword and Shield are (nice games but I will not condone their behavior) I also don't want to give money to Seiko because of that damn chapter ring, beyond unacceptable after all these years. If I ever were to buy one I would buy it used, no doubt.
Maverick Bonato Who needs watches anyway nowadays according to Your way of thinking. It is clear example of less for more. Buy this and next time You will get even less fo even more.
@@wojciechpatalas6660 I was sure somebody would come up with that argument, I know far too well that if I were to use JUST logic I would not possess a single watch since "You can just read the time on your phone" and yet here I am with a 20 watch collection. Why? Because sometimes heart is more important than cold logic. Not always though. To me, anyway, the benefits of the Seiko 5 far outweigh the cons and when someone says that the SKX is superior because of a feature they absolutely never used totally ignoring what the Seiko 5 brings to the table I can't help but feel a little sad. Seeing people stuck in their way of thinking while willingly ignoring facts even though it could bring them happiness... It's a sad sight.
Maverick Bonato, I suspect real divers wear Seiko watches when they are NOT diving.
@@michaels3003 Probably to be honest haha.
Maverick Bonato You obviously don’t get it. The SKX was a proper dive watch and I’m one of the people who actually went diving with my SKX. Obviously the SKX design was still important enough for Seiko to keep it alive. What I’ll never understand is why they just didn’t upgrade the SKX instead of putting out this SKX wannabe clone.
Also, all dive watches must be certified according to ISO 6425. That means every watch of that series must undergo that test otherwise it can’t be sold as a dive watch, whereas of the normal watches only every tenth or twentieth watch will be checked and the test they go through is a joke in comparison to the ISO dive watch test. Ergo, a certified diver will always be a much tougher watch than anything else that isn’t dive certified, which is precisely the reason why that SKX clone is a joke. It’s also the reason why the SKX fans are upset because they’ve been begging for a hacking movement, a sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel and maybe some new dial color choices, but no, instead they put out this farce!
Lastly, I’m pretty sure your house is filled with shit that’s completely over engineered for your purposes. Just a few examples, your stereo is definitely louder than you need and when was the last time used max temperature on your oven and how often exactly do you drive top speed with your car? The list goes on and on and on.
In conclusion, the SKX is a beloved and proper dive watch and the new Seiko 5 is a fashion watch that cashes in on the look of the SKX.
I work for a Seiko retailer. We got about 20 of these in, in all the different versions. I was very excited at first, but upon looking at all of them, not one was properly aligned, and some had little issues like dings on the crown. I had a really nice modified Turtle that I sold to a friend and currently own a Solar Tuna as my “beater” watch. This new 5 is only similar to the SKX in aesthetics. It’s a nice Seiko automatic for someone just getting into watches that doesn’t want to break the bank. But I can think of much better in this price range. Mainly Orient , Spinnaker
or Phoibos would fit the bill. That said, I’d go used at this price and get something even better. I just got a Bulova Devil Diver on sale, and despite its movement being “low rent” it’s a proper dive watch that ticks most boxes. Oh, and I really don’t like display case backs on divers. To me a display case back is a novelty. I’d much rather see a nice etched case back like Seiko does with the tsunami wave, or any other number of neat etchings from other companies. Ball does really nice case backs too. I’m not hating on this watch, but Seiko seem to be trying to play fashion forward over a “professional” tool watch. It’s not a bad idea, because after all they make PLENTY of legit dive watches for not much more money. This will sell very well for Seiko because 95% of the people who will buy these don’t care about us “watch obsessives” opinions.
Everything you said is true. Seiko, as a Japanese brand, should be very much ashamed delivering this new disappointing Seiko 5 line. But the truth is, they don't give a shit. It will sell just fine. The only people complaining, are the watch enthusiasts who know better! Just buy a Citizen or an Orient and get over it!
#GuardaGeek, what is the exact reference for the model reviewed? I found this SRPD71K2, is it correct?
For the lume. It’s just that model you show here that has the blue, lesser lume.
My SRPD65K4 has amazing lume, Seiko have changed the lume on various models.
The stealthy black one having the worst /dimmest lume.
This series is not part of the Prospex range. It has been introduced as a non diver watch. So why does everyone expect it to have characteristics of a diver product ? Just because it looks like a previous diver model ? Yes do agree with the chapter ring alignment , but not a deal breaker enough to not buy it.
@@jlim003 People who aren't divers wanting dive watch specs is even lamer. Dorks who dont even go in the deep end of the pool complaining about 300 feet water resistance? Seriously? These watches are replacing the Seiko 5 Sports series. Their ISO cert watches are in the Prospex line. Professional Specifications
@@jlim003 at $100 after discounts for the blue one on silicone strap I am laughing my aSS off at the deal I got
Tried this on my wrist at mall in Seville,Spain. Green version and I liked it very much. Even chapter ring and bezel had no issues. My only problem was 290€. We all know there are better options in this price range for what you get. But i definately gonna buy it when price goes down. My only advice would be to buy it in physical shop rather online and ask for a well aligned piece.
The models without the “patina” style lume are the same lume as the SKX. I bought one on a whim at a price I couldn’t pass up, and I am really enjoying the upgraded movement and styling. My version with the black dial and PVD case have the same lume as my SKX, from what I can tell. I think the community will have a new base watch to make modifications to, and the polarizing nature of the watch will die down.
Dumb question but.... if the case on the new is an exact size replica of a certified SKX.... then all we need to do is pop all of the parts into an SKX case and we’re done... perfection 😀
The stem of the 4R36 and the 7s26 are different. Given you have both watches then you have the stems too. But it needs extra work
Luckily Mark from Long Island watches launched a more decent upgrade!
it's just a sharkey watch hahaha
I bought the seiko five before I ran across Marcs-now I have both,I actually like the non srewdown crown on the seiko-its easier to wind when not wearing,and seiko lume can't be beat.That being said,Marc's is the better watch
Congratulations for another great review. Unfortunately Seiko really screwed up with this model. This is just another fashion watch and I am sure watch collectors will totally ignore this watch. 4R36 is a good upgrade but even with this it cannot compete with the real SKX simply because it has no status. SKX is a militant warlord. I hope I have made a point here. SKX007 & SKX011 owner here.
Seems pretty harsh. The only thing that bothers me with this watch is the misalignment of the chapter ring. I don't need 200m of water resistance. 100m is perfectly fine. Having to unscrew the crown to set the time/wind it is also unnecessary when you don't really benefit from the better water resistance. I like the look and I would buy a watch from this line-up.
Nothing wrong with wanting a genuine dive watch water resistance certification and everything else if you think that's cool but personally I don't care much for features that are of no use to me. I'd buy a dive watch or a diver style watch because I like the look. I don't think there's any shame in that.
As usual. Evolution moves towards higher prices for less content. Always. I bet even the better movement is there just because nowadays it costs Seiko less than legacy 7S-whatever.
not less content, youre so wrong. the new movement is far superior to the 7s26. they just cut costs in other areas that if were being honest 99% of people dont care about anyway.
@@zazenzach5754 99% of people dont care about the "superiority" of new movement as well. You perfectly zero the second hand in the morning, by evening it goes completely off because the watch still has mechanical accuracy... There is no practical difference between the two.
Hand winding - OK, makes sense if youre a watch fan and you swap numerous watches every day, but if you are not, its not mandatory. And transparent back has no use at all. I doubt its cost has been cut as compared to plain steel though.
@@zazenzach5754 watch repairers have talked about how the new movement has more plastic parts replacing metal parts.
@@zakofrx please provide a source for that, since it actually sounds like an interesting topic.
I really like it. Great review 👍
i have the exact same watch. but i got a super tight bezel to turn. do you have any recommendations? thank you
I'm not planning on going diving with one, would I still be getting ripped off when buying it as I have gshocks for that. Would it be a good deal for me
Due to their poor qc, Seiko lost my business some time ago.
And yet... here you are.
@@KarlKrogmann, yup I get a kick out the Seiko fanboys trying to defend the poor quality control watches Seiko sells. Just a twist on the emperor's new clothes. LMAO!
@@KarlKrogmann, I must admit that I also get a kick out of the Seiko fanboys putting a foot in their mouth. Such hypocrites.
Just a note on the fat spring bars: I have a prospex SNE498 and my fat spring bars pop off all the time. I think it's because the ends of the spring bars are rounded.
They only had to drill the lugs, give us new colors, a new movement and maybe a better strap. That's it.
I still think that Seiko will release one as a Prospex special edition or even make it a general Release.
... or just buy Orient Ray II for 150$ 🙂
...or just buy the one you like the most :)
Recently put mine on a Shark mesh bracelet. Perfect match.
Buy an Islander Watch from LongIsland Watch. Same sizes, compatible with existing mod parts. Upgraded movement and sapphire flat top crystal.
@@APPLEPIE978 my islander should arrive tomorrow, I'll test it in diving conditions the same day into the "Lac du Bourget" here in Aix les Bains (France), approx 140m.
personaly, i wouldn't buy anything from Mark from Long Island. and that Islander looks boring and overpriced (which goes for most of their merchandise)
@4:55 Seiko really screwed up the curvature of that hair spring. It's flexing like mad against the regulator but not moving at all from the regulator to the stud.
@Ivan J LOL! Thanks for the laugh. :-)
I just got the exact same model for 163 Euros so I can forgive it not being water resistant to 200m
Overall a great watch if you can forget about the legacy it's trying to continue
Beautiful watch!!!!!
How many seconds lost per day or minutes per month? Thanks a lot!!!!!
Would it be worth it now as some are selling for half price?
Any good online watch stores for Canada? On amazon I can’t find an SKX under $400 :(
Honestly, the only issue I have with these is the chapter ring being misaligned, there really is no excuse for that. Otherwise, I've seen a lot of whining that it lacks the diver specs of an SKX. In 99.9% of cases though, this is a pointless argument because none of these watches would ever be brought to a pressure depth anywhere near their rating. While the different in dive rating might seem to represent an overall reduction in quality, this is also superfluous, as anything besides ingress that would damage this would have also damaged an SKX (besides potentially a strike to the case back, but I'd bet that represents an exceedingly minor difference in potential risk).
At the end of the day, the only people who are mad about this are the people who are invested, be it financially or emotionally, in the SKX. You are not the market for this watch. Seiko is perfectly happy for you to throw your arms up in the air and say "I'm buying an Orient instead!" because they own Orient. These are basically Seiko's take on making an attractive, inexpensive lineup in the vein of Swatch. And yes, these are a) still really not particularly expensive, and b) will go down in price over time as the market saturates
Given that these also simply don't exist on the grey market at this point, the chapter ring issue should ultimately be a non-issue for quite a while. This is because, as it stands currently, the only place people should be getting these from is an authorized dealer, a company that has a business relationship with Seiko and will either be able to provide support in case a watch is defective or will be careful enough not to sell a watch with a chapter ring misalignment in the first place.
Is there a link to the instrumental version of the song in this video?
I picked up an Islander from long island watch. It's an unbaged SKX that is very tricked out.
Isnt that a SRPD93? Whats the diffrence? Thanks
Already in the closeup shot at the beginning of the video I can see the misaligned bezel, and Seiko wants double the money for it? lol
If you buy it, that means you're supporting Seiko's poor quality control.
PT111111 or you don t care/notice
PT111111 we’d all complain if they aligned the chapter rung... its part of the SKX legend 😂
I'm going to Japan in February, I'm gonna see if I can pick up a real SKX there, and hopefully, one that is aligned properly.
@@PT111111 of course you could, you will be in the best place in the world to buy them options wise anyway.
Real one? are. you saying the k model is not real PT111111. Both the J and the K models are easy to get, I got one 2 weeks ago online brand new and allinged.
Is the chapter ring white or a cream colour. Hard to tell on my screen.
Really great information... Thanks Watch Geek
I love the new 5s I just bought 2. I also know SKX guys that are hating on the 5 because it's less waterproof! But these are the same guys that wont even shower in there SKX !! I personally have done free diving in my old seiko 5 sport with no problems yet my friends that complain about the waterproof rating will put there watches in there pockets when it's raining out lol I just dont get it. And I would bet my paycheck that Seiko comes out with a new skx that has a better movement the new 5 is not a replacement skx it's a replacement 5
Perfectly said. I LOOOOOVE Seiko and I HAAAATE them for the shortcomings and the MISALIGNMENT!!!!
If you want perfection, spend more. You won't find these shortcomings in their Turtle and Tuna models, or even the ones higher than them.
What Seiko has done with this watch is amazing. They've cut just the right corners to provide you with an amazing watch, with an upgraded movement, at one heck of a price.
@@gurjyotsinghnarang7233 more? It's already overpriced!!! Don't be an idiot!!!
It is a curious thing, to ponder why Seiko deliberately chooses to meticulously fix so many of the pet hates of the classic
007 crowd and then, for reasons known perhaps only by the Buddha, dammit, the company just quit working on it, only an eighth of a tone away from what everybody knew would be a perfect chord. They had to know that was what the 007 partisans wanted - and they just said, "No" - and without a public explanation. Nobody at Seiko could come up with anything believable. So they pretended the disharmony was what they wanted, all along. If, of course, they noticed the disharmony at all. Let's all give them a big, "Banzai!"- but leave it just a tad out of key. Think they will notice?
It's a Seiko 5 line. A dive style watch. 100m water resistance isn't bad. Just get a friggin' SKX then if you want 200m or a G-Shock for that matter. It's meant as a gateway watch for many people who are getting in to wrist watches or horology. And about the misalignment, Seiko doesn't care still you buy them.
I recently have bought the black version and I do not have this issue of misalignment of the marks, I think yours may be a defective one.
did seiko claim this was a new SKX? Or is it only your guess/expectation?
This watch would be such a great value if it had a screw-down crown.
i picked up one of these a few days ago and i love it! 100m water resistance is a non issue for me and probably many average consumers. im terrified of deep water, cant swim well to save my life and where i live the deepest water for hundreds of km is no deeper than 10 or 15m and if i am in that water send help because im not meant to be in it! my only regret about it is i did not get the blue and white one like this one
The modders are light years ahead of them.
Exhibition case-back does not reduce water resistance..
What do you base that on? There are twice as many gaskets.
Why do you think Rolex "hides" their beautiful movements under solid case backs?
@@bobklumpp8698 it's really more of an extra point of possible failure than an actual reduction in water resistance. In that sense your totally right, it's not as reliable but even then it's still going to be plenty water resistant for a long time. Some of Omega's Ploprof watches have exhibition casebacks and maintain a 1200m diver-certified water resistance, and the Planet Ocean has 600m wr, there's more examples besides omega but that's just what came to mind. Maybe at extreme depths it certainly matters but it's still possible to reliably achieve these levels of water resistance with a displayback. But when we're talking about the difference between 100m wr and diver-certified 200m wr on an inexpensive Seiko, the loss of wr in this instance is more likely due to the lack of a screw down crown and insufficient seals compared to the SKX as opposed to the displayback. As for Rolex I speculate it's more because their movements aren't really decorated at all. And I don't see anyone taking their Day-Date diving diving deep enough to matter. Sorry for the long post, I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything it's just something that I respectfully disagree with you on. That said though, I did enjoy the video.
They got it half right.
Still with the Hardlex though.
I have seen this one in a shop and I thought it looked cheap. Too shiny.
Too expensive.
I bought a Vostok Amphibia instead 160271 for a quarter of the price. I love it.
I have a Seiko 5 with the 7009 movement from the 1980s when Seiko still knew how to make a great watch.
A watch with history.
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Losing 200 m water resistance in a price paid for adhering to the expectations of younger generations. This has been a perhaps too harsh criticism from an old watch collector. And I fully agree that a misaligned chapter ring is a quality issue which can't be defended at all. However, I believe that with 5KX Seiko is in fact returning to the initial rationale behind Seiko 5: it is meant to be the first mechanical watch (or at least someone's first Seiko watch). Generations change and their expectations change with them, too. Young people use smartwatches. These might have lots of smart features. but are short-lived. They generally have a 3-5 years service life and require charging every few days. If younger people are drawn to mechanical watches, this comes out of curiosity and fascination with precision mechanics. They want an attractive dial and a transparent caseback to enjoy the movement. Having a transparent caseback means you can't have 200m water resistance. A screw down crown makes no sense at all then! Besides, let's be honest about SKXs: the overwheming majority of SKX owners are desk divers. Sticking to water resistance of 200 m is ridiculous if you don't go scuba diving. New Seiko 5 is not primarily meant for old watch lovers. The 5KX series has a better movement, more attractive dials, drilled lugs for fast strap-changing and a transparent caseback. Everything SKXs, the respected tool watches, lacked. In fact, this new series can foster the interest of younger generations and prove very useful to the watchmaking industry. With this approach in mind I have recently bought one of the new models and I like it a lot. I'm surprised myself that it's a keeper. The design reminds me of some Spinnaker model which I somehow couldn't pull the trigger for. For swimming I still have a decent (but bulky and unwieldy) Prospex diver. For 'desk diving' and everyday use I wear and enjoy my Seiko 5KX. My piece is very accurate and keeps excellent time. The chapter ring is perfectly aligned, even the bezel seems to be well aligned. Maybe they have improved quality a bit (which might be a temporary change, I know). Cheers.
Nice video bro! I’m really annoyed about this watch for the very reasons you described. The 009 was the Watch that started it all for me
The logo looks miles better
In my opinion, the shield is acceptable. But the "sports" word is not necessary. Most of the time less can be more.
Stop calling this version the skx007 replacement.. the skx was never a seiko5..
My Seiko skx came with a seiko 5 tag with the watch. It's just not signed on the dial
This one should be be nicknamed the "Desk Diver's Delight."
Saw a pic of the blue 4th Gen Monster, also with blue lume. I don't think it's inherently going to appear as bright as green. That may just be a function of light wavelength and not lumens? I'm less concerned about the misaligned chapter ring since any geek if gonna open even an SKX up and fix that.
Seiko's $100-$200 (street prices) diver models are littered with too-big, or too garish, or almost-right designs in many cases. Not all of them of course. Once these settle down to that amount (assuming they do) they'll be solid choices.
It's not s new SKX , it's s new Seiko sports. Nothing wrong with that. They're nice Seiko 5's, but please don't link them to the SKX. They're not even divers.
For the price range, it should have a sapphire crystal, 200bar water resistance, screw-down crown and an aligned chapter ring! This watch won't be on my wanted list. I'll stay with my Orient Mako III
I think they should've just done all that and made it one of the more inexpensive pieces in the Prospex line. Instead of making it one of the most expensive Seiko 5's
@@ElliotDrinksWater Yes they've definitely got their logistic/stratagem mixed up in the classic juxtaposition! Probably executed in the heat and excitement of the moment knowing that they have a legendary model on their hands...the superlative SKX line. They should've spent more time (ironically) deducing the right elements, they didn't and the result...they haven't got it right...they fucked up!😔Which is a bloody shame!
@@TheGeezzer yeah, I think their heart was in the right place, but the execution wasn't all there.