Agreed, always go and check your horse. Always go with the best trainer in your area. Or expect to spend hundreds of dollars extra to fly out to the area, pay for a hotel, and rent a car. Always surprise the trainer, no matter how much they hate it. Never tell them your coming over. You will be surprised how much bad behavior you can catch showing up unannounced. You don't have to worry about just not being fed. Abuse is so common at training facilities, always go and check your horse atleast 1x per month.
@@RaleighLink Once a month is nowhere near often enough! Once a week is barely enough. Only ever send a horse away to a place with an excellent reputation, and only leave them there if you are getting a COMPLETE video once a week, plus your weekly visit. I don't always agree with everything you say, but I totally agree with every word you said in this video. 100%!
@@cattymajiv agreed, but realistically if the horse is half way across the country once a month is usually all you can do, tsking off of work several times a month could be grounds to get fired. And lets be real, getting fired or layed off is too dang common right now. Atleast once a month is reasonably financially and workwise. More is better of course, that is enough to notice worsening condition in time to remove them from the facility, enough to catch abusive practices, and see what the facility might look like when no one is expected. Is it kept clean and reasonably tidy or does it look like a boom went off stalls are filthy, horses are filthy, no water, no hay, covered in flies ect... You can see a lot when you show up unannounced even once a month. but I agree 1x a month is not the best more is obvioiusly better.
@@Kholoured If that is the case, I stand with Raleigh. If you cannot travel to see your horse, a) you should not be boarding them so far away that this is a problem or b) maybe you should not even be owning a horse, period. If you are in a precarious work situation (as so many of us are) you should not be owning a horse. Period. This is not a machine that can just sit unattended, this is a living creature. Sometimes the most ethical thing is to say, "yes, I've always dreamed of owning a horse, God only knows how much I want a horse of my own, but--let's be honest, I am not in a position nor will I ever be in a position where I can do the right thing by this animal, so that is one dream I am just going to have to give up." It's very painful to come to that realization and society certainly does not support it, we are told do not give up no matter what and dreams can come true, everything works out in the end, so if that's what you really want, go for it. There is nobody saying, hey, sit down, count the costs, be honest about your ability to take care of this animal timewise and financial-wise. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Because it is ALWAYS the animals that pay in the end. I want to add that for 37 years I worked in an animal research facility and I know a lot of people have very strong feelings about that, so I don't want to go into a debate over it. But I will tell you that I have seen and heard horror stories like this that would NEVER, EVER, EVER be allowed where I used to work. Management fired a technician just for drawing a mustache on a beagle with a sharpie. They made it very clear that abuse or mistreatment was not to be tolerated. Frankly, I would MUCH RATHER be a lab animal at an accredited lab than to be someone's pet! Our animals were fed every day (except when they were being fasted for procedures), their cages were cleaned every day, some, depending on the species, were allowed out of their cages for a short time for enrichment purposes including play time with staff (yes, really!), there were regulations governing housing, how much square feet you need per animal, guidelines concerning pain and distress. There were veterinarians on site every day. What happened to Whiskey would have NEVER happened at the lab where I worked. NEVER. We were constantly being monitored by the FDA, USDA and other animal welfare organizations. And yet I have had people who have no idea of how studies are conducted and all the hoops you have to jump through to get approval, tell me that "what you do is cruel"--meanwhile they are keeping dogs confined practically 24/7 in travel carriers that are much too small for them, but that is not cruel, oh, no. I'm sorry, but! If the FDA or USDA came into THEIR homes and THEIR barns, they would shut them down for not complying with the Animal Welfare Act. Here's the truth, a lab rat has MORE legal protections than your horse, dog, or cat. If this trainer were running an equine research facility, she'd be shut down in a heartbeat. It simply would not be allowed. She would lose her accreditation and with that, her clients. Well, I'm done with my rant.
Especially since he claimed the horse's heart was paralyzed, aka not beating, yet the horse was still breathing. Biologist here, breathing always stops first.
@@thatonelampent5958 Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that. Sorry but if the horse's heart isn't beating, what did she pay for euthanizing an already dead animal? How sure is the owner that it WAS a real vet anyway? I have questions.....lots of questions.
@Odontecete a heart can be in layman's terms "paralyzed" without death occurring. In 2 legged varieties it's Vfib. Not sure what the 4 legged friends chambers look like. I imagine it's still a fibrillation; but not sure what chamber it originates in. Heart ❤️ just quivers like jello. Death will eventually occur but I can imagine a vet wanting to humanely euthanize at this point.
There is a factor in that kind of case to that which I myself fell victim to. When you're insecure in your knowledge and gut and the trainers run roughshod over you. You can begin to question if its right and get absolutely bullied without realising and bamboozled. Especially when you're in a position of not being able to move anywhere else waiting for agistment to line up, stuck on a timeframe and everyone around you telling you its alright. I could check on a regular basis. I was getting my photos and working to get her out asap. I did not like the man, but everyone around me said "oh he's just a cowboy" meanwhile he's firing off phrases like 'These thirteen year old barbies were all whining so I shoved my snowballs in their mouth.' Like DUDE. I got very crowded in, having to be delicate to keep a roof over my horse's head whilst trying to hurry things along. COVID didn't help. If this woman was uneducated on how to deal with pushy trainers and folk around her being all 'its fine' you can see how she'd get lost in the shuffle. Its not an excuse, or acceptable, but it becomes understandable HOW it could happen.
@Blackdragon99omfg please always go with your gut and don't let any trainer insult you or push you around. They are supposed to be helping you, not causing you stress! You probably know more than you give yourself credit for. You know your horse. Anyone can call themselves a professional, but a true professional horse trainer treats clients and their horses kindly and respectfully. ❤️
@@annjohnson8437 Oh I thankfully managed to get out. But jesus it was bad. I'm a very fight driven person, but finacials and circumstances couldn't let me. I got out fast, immediately called the vet and went "Check my horse and make sure this dude didn't hurt her." I was ready for blood to the point the vet was talking me down. Over a few minor scratches. Figured he did the western tied Tia and let Tia pull so she chaffed her nose. Tia showed me too. When I could do everything he was doing WITHOUT needing to get aggressive. That horse spoke more volumes to people than my bared teeth. I more mention it as a factor so many people don't consider. How easy it can be to bully a young woman. Especially when you've made a career out of it for longer than she's been alive. Which I feel many of these trainers do. Either the be your best friend, or treat YOU like the horse they walk over.
I have taken very expensive imported stallions in training for years, with owners that don't ride and only see their horses at shows. I kept a daily training log and took a video weekly to document the progress of the work. I can't imagine anyone expecting less.
Exactly! For $1000 a month I would expect detailed videos and reports, and I would have a detailed contract signed beforehand, not just hand over my horse to them with no rules. I would go see the horse on a random basis AT LEAST once a week too!
@@cattymajiv 1000 a month is cheaper than board at some places.....6 rides a week equally 24 a month. Divide 24 into 1000 just for riding and training... Where is money left for feed?
like yeah i feel bad that these people lost their horses, but were the red flags not enough for them to immediately pull their horses out? who just authorizes a euthanasia over the phone without checking on the animal first?!
@@starfire6279 if someone who had been continuously dodging my requests for an update and being shady just called me and told me my horse had botulism with no proof and no visual i'm not just going to believe them. approving a euthanasia over the phone without having contact with the animal is dangerous and irresponsible.
They are supposedly looking into this and investigating the situation more from what is said. So hopefully this lady can lose privilege to animals or pau a lot of money.
@@Wqbbarrelsnroping unfortunately paying a lot of money can’t bring people’s pets back from the dead I’ve read this same women has killed 5 horses just by looking at the comments on whiskeys photos I have no idea why all the owners of them never fought as hard as this last person but that women needs prison time not a ban on animals
@@Lyra37 I haven't looked into it, I've just heard that they are investigating it. If she's killed that many horses she should be in prison. Also i never said anything about bringing a horse back from the dead, what does that have to do with anything? I'm saying the trainer should either get banned from animals or pay lots and lots of tax money for her mistakes and well to make it all worth it she can might as well go to prison, it's where she deserves.
@@Wqbbarrelsnroping I never said you did say that but paying tax money isn’t going to help anyone she needs to be behind bars for killing people’s pets murderers don’t pay money to victims nor do animal killers they only get banned from owning animals + jail time possibly.
Ikr it’s crazy! It’s like they think “oh no I can’t make any money from my horse anymore” and then cry. But when their horse is alive they couldn’t care less. It’s horrible
@@BeMoreBillyOfficial how exactly was the owner making money off of her now dead horse? I guess in general for most people their animals cost a lot of money and do not make any, right??!
Please make a video on Debrah Reed she's a animal abuser and has been put in jail for animal cruelty, and is now out and still racing horses and now doing the cutting horses 😨😱
not everyone can start a horse, it is fine to give them to someone who can start them with less stress BUT as an owner you should check on the horse regularly
The owner only lived 1 1/2 hours away! That's nothing! I would have been there a minimum of once a week. Unbelievable and a pox on all of their houses -- trainer, owner, and the vet!
Absolutely. If she could visit, you could always ask someone. I frequently visit other people's horses if they are unable to - to check in, to give them some treats, loving and attention. I know they'll do the same thing for me. Life happens, we're all working adults but there's no excuse when animal life is concerned. It's not a car you can just park and forget. That being said, the legal responsibility lies on the trainer.
Why are we victim blaming? She was paying a lot of money for a service and trusted her horse would be cared for Many places dont allow visits Regardless of mistakes she made, she lost her horse, and the woman 'caring' for it is the culprit
You NEVER, EVER, and I EMPHASIZE on this: Just look at a photo/real life of a horse (or any animal) with something covering it. Whether it's a saddle, a blanket, a harness, whatever. I used to watch a horse rescue where they go to auctions and it's practically every horse that they rescue underweight has this done. It hides their ribs and body condition, it hides sores, it hides whip marks, it hides so damned much that you cannot tell anything about the animal. Same with bandages to an extent, it is the oldest trick in the book.
It’s highly unethical bjt not shocking. In my farrier apprenticeship I watched a well known vet (who’s since retired), my mentor, the staff and a trainer re take x rays. Not because the horse was moving or wouldn’t stand on the blocks. But because they kept trying to get a better looking x ray of the feet so the buyer wouldn’t decline the sale. It was gross and I walked out.
Fully agree with your stance on horse ownership. People need to take care of the animals that rely on them. This has enraged me so much! I was raised in an abusive home in a border town before the fence was installed. Drug runners would use pack horses to move stuff in and out throguh the desert mountains to keep hidden from border patrol and one day they abandoned one because he had gone lame. He ended up on our property. I was a preteen at the time and begged my parents to keep him. I nursed him back to health and he became my best friend even though he would likely never be rideable due to his injuries. My parents got tired of paying for his food and gave him away to coworkers that owned a "ranch" with the promise I could visit whenever. I did not have much hope as they beat him with a crop to get him into the trailer. Despite my tears and protests they took him and never allowed me to see him. I was I formed a few months later that he had been put down. I know that something like this happened to him and it haunts me to this day. TL;DR: Please, love and protect your horses! They depend on you and trust you. They deserve to be treated as your family. If not, don't bother owning one.
I'm so sorry this happened how awful hearing things like this confirms humans are just not meant to be here, Covid Anthrax it's just never enough to rid us from this amazing plant. We're suppose to save it yet in the long run animals would be beater off .
So the owner wasn’t getting images of her horse and didn’t bother to take one afternoon to go check on him? I’m sorry but she is partly at fault for not ‘checking on’ her horse for several months. Rest in peace to that poor horse
Yeah probably. I had my horse at an "experts" care once (for about a month) vecause she told me she could get him to walk calmer outside (never happened under her "care" btw) after a month or so she had told me 3 times to not come over to look for my horse because he was supposed to concentrate on her 100%... no one dares to tell me to stay away from my bby, she was fired tgat week. Later found out she never really worked with him cuz she was too scared of him..
@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions thx! I am just glad that my gut feeling never misses to kick in whenever something is really off. The barn owner tokd me that she was on him a couple of times at the start but only in a closed area (so nothing that wasnt achieved before) and she only rode on kandarre as far as I know. It took a while to get him to loosen up on the rein again afterwards, I assume she had a harder hand (he's super soft and will tuck his chin onto his chest if anyone keeps strickt contact with the reins)
Well, she did say she asked for pictures and mostly got some where she couldn't see his actual condition that well and no response towards the end. I do agree that she should have visited in person from time to time and asked for closer images/ gotten suspicious waaay earlier at not getting proper pictures.
When I sent my horse off to a trainer I was there to watch training sessions too… not just checking on her well being. I wanted to see how he was training her… to pick up tips, to make sure he wasn’t abusive… and just because I missed her. I feel bad that her horse died but if she checked on her horse it wouldn’t have happened.😢
I wish I had intensive owners like you. I worked with horses wanting to work with the owners as well to help teach them about their horses and etc. We would set up appointments for them to come out and work with me and their horse. They would NEVER show up or show up dragging their young kid with them with no one to watch it. They knew I would work with their horse after I got off of my day job and the approximate times, I would invite them to come watch me during a training session with their horse. They NEVER would come for a visit or anything. The owners are usually the morons in many cases.
@@suzannejohnson9109 you sound like an amazing trainer. The man I had picked to train my horse was the same way. I learned so much from him! I don’t understand why people would send their horse off to be trained, and not want to see how the trainer did it! People that aren’t dedicated to their animals shouldn’t own them IMO. Thank you for being one of the good ones🙂
That's what my trainer says. That she can tell what the owner is like after one session with the horse. Biggest compliment I got was "Keep doing what you're doing." and when I picked him up 4 weeks later, she went "Can you bring me more like him? He makes work fun and easy."
I totally agree with you Barbara. I was thinking the exact same thing while watching Raleigh’s video. What is wrong with people? Goodness, I travel over an hour a day for work each day, so almost two and a half hours a day there and back and the owner couldn’t be bothered going to check on her baby at all, in an entire four months? Actually over four months if you include the extra two that so called trainer asked for. Besides the fact that I’d miss my horse terribly, I’d definitely want to see what the trainer was doing, or how she does some things in case I wanted to continue with a little training at home. This video broke my heart. So incredibly sad and totally didn’t have to happen. Everybody involved with that training facility, should spend some time in prison in never be able to work with animals again, including this so called vet, who absolutely must lose their licence on top of that. That poor sweet horse💔
@@suzannejohnson9109Some People seem to see Horses like Cars. Just make that it works and thats it! Im generally Curious how it works for Horse Owners when someone else only trians their Horses but the Horse isnt used to work with the Owner?
So sad. This is why I don’t trust anyone when it comes to my animals. I only trust myself and people that I have known for multiple years. Mostly family members. There are too many sh!tty people in this world and that is all I have to say. JUSTICE FOR WHISKEY AND THE OTHER HORSES THAT DIED!!!! 🤬
This is so infuriating. I love my horse, I go ride him at least twice a week and I'm being dead serious when I say seeing him like that horse would give me trauma. This whole situation is disgusting
I don't own a horse, but I have cats and dogs. I don't understand how people can send their animals away and not visit them in MONTHES. It's not even that I'd be suspicious to their caregivers (I'm really, really, really naïve), but I love them too much to not see them. And if the smallest thing wasn't right, I would immediately take them home.
I would have walked bare-foot in the snow/ice/freezing cold rain! NO EXCUSES!! I agree with every word you said, Raleigh, the only victim is the poor horse! 😢 Fly High, Whiskey 🕊 Safe in God's pasture 🙏
Thank you for saying this, Raleigh. As a former animal research lab employee it makes my blood boil when I hear stories like this. "Oh, but animal research is so cruel!" The truth is animal research is a very highly regulated industry and the health and welfare of those animals is very closely monitored. There is no room for "irresponsibility" or "neglect" in animal research. None. This would not have happened had this been an accredited research facility. Now you can debate the whole day long as to whether animal research is ethical, but I am going to say this, I would much rather be a lab animal at my former laboratory than to be owned by someone like Amber. At least there I wouldn't be starved to death! This is a disturbing story on so many levels and Raleigh is absolutely right when she says the only victims are the horses. IF what Amber is relating is true, and she is not just being vindictive because her horse died in training, then she bears a lot of the responsibility as well. I say vindictive because we do not know the whole story. There may be something going on behind the scenes, a personal grudge, perhaps. But let's give her the benefit of the doubt. She strikes me as a naïve, inexperienced horse owner who got in over her head and was taken advantage of by an unscrupulous trainer who saw her coming a mile away. I'd bet that none of the horses in that trainer's barn belonged to locals who lived nearby and were in a position to check up on them. Instead, she sought out clients that were just like Amber. It strikes me as very odd that Amber never visited during all this time, not even when she got the news that Whiskey was dying. If it were MY horse, I would have told the trainer and the vet, HOLD IT, DO NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL I GET THERE, and then I would have dropped everything, hopped into my car and broken every speed limit between here and there to be with my horse. Of course, I wouldn't have let things go that far to begin with, but--it seems that while she could not manage to come see Whiskey while he was alive she seemed to have no trouble finding and intercepting the truck that had his body and then sending it to necropsy. WTF? This is where I am beginning to suspect that there is more going on than what Amber is telling us, and I'd like to hear the trainer's side of the story, though it seems to me she's no saint either as this does not seem to be an isolated incident. It will be very interesting to see what (if any) follow-up there is to this story, and whether Amber has learned something from this tragedy or will simply go out and get another horse, rinse and repeat. Thank you for speaking up for the animals!
Agree, the owner seems young, naive, or inexperienced, maybe all three. I'm hoping she learnt a valuable lesson about being responsible for your horse, and *proactive* in that responsibility.
Horrific, hard to listen to. The owner is resposible for the demise of the horse, as well as the so called trainer and vet. The Vet should lose his licence.
Whyyy? Because he was called and showed up to an acute situation and ONLY had the info that was given to him? Especially if this client was a long term one without previous issues.
@@DrDIY1 What you are saying is he wasn't compentent enough to make an assestment on his own.That's even worse. A vet should listen to the trainor but also be educated to read through the lines and make his own decision. Don't know the vet or her,and I suspect you don't either.
It is horrific... Idk that I think the owner is really responsible for this though. I'm currently paying about the same for my mare to be trained, fed and housed, and trust the trainer as she is reputable in the area and well-known for her care of horses. She sends me photos and videos frequently and my mare looks great. There are no good trainers in my immediate area, so she's about 10 hrs away from me, and I'm not able to visit as often as I would like. I think blaming the owner for another individual's manipulation and abusive behavior, and then covering it up, is unreasonable. That being said, I would have absolutely never "okay'ed" a euthanization over FaceTime... My red flags would have gone up immediately and that would have become an emergency drive, no sleep, all nighter. I also would have conferred with my mom and our vet to cross-examine what the vet and trainer were saying.
@@afoxinthewoodsShe was 1.5 hours away, she didn't even get full body photos, she didn't ask for updates, there's no excuse. That being said..If a horse is suffering to the point of needing to be euthanised - waiting is cruelty.
My horse is a rescue. I've seen pictures of her from when the herd was seized. She was nothing but skin and bones. The only times I don't see my horses daily is if I'm away or sick. Since 11/26/23, I've spent a total of 2 weeks in the hospital and am currently recovering from heart surgery. I wasn't allowed to drive for a month. But as long as I was up to going out to the farm (I rent a field and do self care), I had someone pick me up and take me. I'm blessed in that I have several people who are willing to care for them if I can't. I'm still not allowed to ride and am just starting to do more than feed, water and care for the field (rotational grazing, field is cleaned weekly, mowed, manure spread and dragged). There is a woman at the farm that is unable to come to the farm. But, she gets a pass. She is in very poor health and may not ever be out again. It's too far for her to drive. But her horses are still fed. They still see the farrier and the vet.
Absolutely. We fired the barn manager at our rescue for pocketing money for unregistered boarded horses. He was a nice guy and very knowledgeable as a trainer but wasn't honest with how he was managing. We nipped this in the bud after just one discrepancy. Our staff took care of the feeding supplements, all our horses are on pasture, but I was always wondering just how much training was actually going on by the manager.
Racing is so evil. My friend had a retired racehorse that was super messed up and they couldn't save him, recently they put him down. I was really sad they couldn't save him and I wonder what happened to him.. he was only happy when he could run, he used to run alongside me in the pasture and he seemed so happy. I wish he was still here🤍. Your videos have helped me so much to understand what happens to racehorses. Thank you, Raleigh!
The really sad thing about it is that racing actually can be done ethically and with less danger to the horses, but because so much money is involved, along with wealthy individuals who don't care about the animals beyond the income they might produce, ethics go out the window. I'd list some examples of ethical things that could be done, but then this reply would get way too long. I will say one of the biggest ones would be to not only base a horse's age on its actual birth date, but to not allow for racing any horse below the age of 5 when their minds and bodies are more likely to be fully developed.
Humans are heartless monsters, there's that small precent of real people who are not afraid to bring this up, to do all they can to stop this. they are people like Raleigh who know they a voice and they use it,
If I was the owner, I would be checking on my horse at least once a week. Rather there where red flags or not. If the owner was not so careless, this horse could have lived a good 25 more years.
Why are we victim blaming? She was paying a lot of money for a service and trusted her horse would be cared for Many places dont allow visits She was sent photos, its not always obvious something is off to start Regardless of mistakes she made, she lost her horse, and the woman 'caring' for it is the culprit
@@goblinofsharksnacks No, the person that was apparently ‘training’ the horse, was giving SO many red flags the whole time, and the owner couldn’t care enough to give her horse at least 1 visit? I’m doubting rather you watched this video or not hon
@@Ella_TheEquestrian I did watch it entirely, how can someone be aware of a risk they dont know of or understand? Like any situation in life, without experience most people cant just recognise red flags. Its easy to point out when you do have that experience. The horse always being in a coat in some places isn't particularly weird, here for example they'll have coats on for up to half the year, if you're getting a weekly update it can take time before you actually notice something off. No one gives their animal to someone expecting this to happen, did she fk up by not visiting or pushing more? Sure, but its in our nature to reason against our own doubts, the trainer had a lot of horses, went to shows, most people would see this and think she must be trustworthy. Many places also don't allow visits, and the owner may have thought the trainers behaviour was the norm with how busy they can be. There are so many aspects to the whole situation, she was naive, she learned a lesson in the worst way, she has to live with the loss and regret, that is punishment enough. You lot should be going after the trainer, not looking to put blame on the owner, how is that helping anyone or anything? Additional punishment is unnecessary. If the trainer wasn't a piece of sh*t this wouldn't have happened.
@@goblinofsharksnacks A lot of what you said is correct--when you're young you're not familiar with just how awful people can be. You put trust where it shouldn't be, and don't take the actions necessary to keep other from taking advantage of you. It's just....if these mistakes made by a young and naïve owner aren't pointed out, then how will other horse owners to learn? My Dad taught me a lot of what we're talking about here, he "knocked the shine off me" as he used to say--teaching me not to be too trusting of others. Kind of a "trust but verify" attitude. Anyway, I do feel bad for this young woman and this was a super-harsh way to learn this lesson. Sometimes you can be too trusting.
Not only should she be put in jail all of her horses need to seized and given to responsible owners and I can’t even imagine the abuse used to train him if this is what happened to him😕
I send my 3yo mare for training. 20 minutes away. I was there at least once every week. I checked upon her. I watched her condition and stuff... She did lost some weight, but I assumed its from stress after moving and also more work, so I worked out new diet for her.... After a month I needed to get her back home...it was weird, but okay... I decided to get trainer who going to our farm... My little mare, Who know what saddle is, what girth is, what stirrups are behaved absolutely crazy... I found out they Most likely lied to me about the work. Pretended infront of me that she's Working well, and there's high possibility, she was starved... I can't forgive myself for what happened. I wanted the best for her, but ended up hurting her.
You did the best you could. Not easy to catch the abusers red handed. I'm glad the coach at my barn starts horses; I know how she works (she teaches me groundwork) and, if I'm lucky enough to have my own horse someday, I'd just ask her to start him.
Exactly! The only time I don't see my horse every other day is when we go on vacation, and we keep vacations short so that we don't have to be away from him!
I think she didn't care as much as she wants us to believe. She told a vet over the phone to put her horse down, without even considering getting in the d-mn car to see her horse one last time.
The only way I could excuse not checking on a horse for four months is if you sent it to a facility and you couldn’t check on it due to health issues and you’re in no way capable of ensuring that whoever you ask to do so is actually checking on them too. In simplest terms if you’re bed ridden or in the hospital I get it, if not wth?
Just wanted to weigh in on this. I am chronically ill and housebound. I sent my 4y/o to a (very) reputable trainer and a friend of mine visited once a week to film her being started/ridden away for me. A few weeks down the line, even though she was looking very well, I wasn’t feeling comfortable about her progress, so I asked the trainer if my friend could hop on and have a feel. While there, my friend overheard one of the riders say that when she has a difficult horse to ride the next day, she removes the water overnight, to ensure a calm ride the next day. My girl was boxed up and out of there the next day. Maybe not everyone is lucky enough to have a friend like mine, but it boggles my mind that someone *with* physical capacity would leave their horse with a trainer for that long without any check-ins at all!
@@jmcg9822 I know! This really was a good producer and the girl in question was fired after our complaint. I don’t even know whether it actually happened to my mare. But it shows that things like this can and do happen anywhere.
@@spellywelly ya, I don't like how people are going after the owner like stuff happens and not everyone can drive back and forth or leave a job, big welders or oil rigs those people can work for months on end in different locations depending on the job
Thing is though, I was in a situation like this once. Not me in hospital but my horse! My horse had to stay at a hospital/rehab place until he was well enough to make the journey home. It was several hours away (other side of the state), in the middle of regular covid lockdowns (trying to keep a facility open is easier the less chance you had of someone positive coming through), and they couldn't have people wandering in and out unsupervised in a facility not open to the public, so once he was moved out of the hospital into the closed off rehab area, they weren't very keen on having visitors. As much as I wanted to see him, the reasons were understandable, given their rep I knew they could be trusted, and they sent me regular updates in place of being able to come in, including videos so I could see clearly how he was going. A trainer should be providing no less in the form of regular good quality videos or photos if someone isn't coming in regularly to see their horse as much to cover themselves as to put the owner's mind at ease. That the trainer would only provide far away photos of rugged/saddled horses when asked is just weird and I'd be down there just checking out what was happening if at all possible. The owner sounds like they were continuing to go out there and show their horses/attend clinics etc. Sounds like not a "could not come" issue, and more a "did not think it was necessary to make the time to go" problem.
This is so true. I got seriously sick and couldn’t see my guy for couple of months. This was the only time I could not check on him. When I came to see him he was thin and he was sick. In some ways he had never has been the same.
I saw the pictures on facebook and I immediately got a horrible stomach ache, this is actually disguting. Justice for all of the horses she has done this to
Absolutely correct! The horses are the victims of owner and facility neglect and any other owner whom may have witnessed this is also guilty of neglect to report.
I also questioned the owner's lack of visiting the horse once the "trainer" was "too busy" or "not available" to send pictures or answer questions as they occurred.
So disgusting and worst part if found guilty probably light sentence maybe a fine and probation. A horse trainer in Massachusetts found guilty of horse abuse (starvation) was actually hired to be the stable manager at Camp Pendleton, CA. I told the manager a horse was being starved and abused and she did NOTHING. I called base animal control. The horse was euthanized and owner kicked out of CP. I don't believe her termination months later was related to this.
AMEN!! Thank you for stating that the owner should have checked in on her horse. Could have saved him especially if the trainer wasn't sending pics to her. So sad!
I read an article online yesterday that Authorities were investigating a site' in Australia where they found over 500 horses carcasses, in varying states of decay?
That woman should be charged with animal abuse..I'd get a lawyer on that one..to at least get the money back for whiskey's so called training.she committed murder.
how she didnt go visit her animal just baffles me. My horse is boarded an hour away from me at the moment and I still manage to see my animal every other day (if not every day)... like what??
I was the first to make a video about this. Rest in pastures in heaven whiskey. And to the lady who killed this horse. 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬🥺😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡
I've got a trainer friend that takes advantage of technology in a great way. She offers a prearranged live video feed for each owner during most arena training sessions. She does ask that they hold questions until the end. She also has live feed in stalls, but cuts off outside access at her bedtime because she's gotten phone calls "my horse is laying down" lol. It's a great way to let owners see their horses frequently when they can't get to the barn.
If I owned a horse and sent it to a trainer, the very LEAST I'd be doing is visiting every single weekend. Not only to keep a close eye on the condition of my horse, but also to maintain a bond with it. And how could someone claim to care about a horse and yet just give the okay for it to be euthanized over the phone? This owner was definitely negligent.
Agree 100%. Never leave your precious child or animal in the care of a stranger without having a thorough background check, references and frequent, unambiguous, mandatory updates. They aren't your 'buddy' who's doing you a favor, you're paying them for a service, so expect professional responses and updates. If all they do is take your money and hand out excuses then that's a red flag - react accordingly. Don't be dismissive of consistently unprofessional excuses bc "they're busy." And most of all, if you don't have time for your own animal, you shouldn't have the animal in the first place. Horse ownership (or any animal), just like parenthood, means having a lot of personal responsibility. They aren't furniture. Anyways, I hope the vet is being investigated as well as this so-called trainer, and that everyone who had a hand in this inexcusable neglect and unfortunate death gets prosecuted to the fullest extent. There are so many scams and grifters nowadays it makes your head spin. It's always better to be proactive.
My stables is 30-45 minutes away from my house and we almost always go there every day. The LONGEST I have gone without checking up on my pony was 4 days and I was so worried about him in the time since we were out on vacation.
WOW! So agree with Raleigh on the accountability here. Just can't believe the owner didn't check on her horse especially with the vague and evasive information she received. Red flags all over the place.
The voice of reason!!! Love how honest and to the point you are! I don't even have a horse and never will , but I follow your channel for more than 2 years now and I love all the information you put out and keeping all those idiots accountable!!! THANK YOU
so glad you said it because i was watching Whiskey's owner cry about his death on tiktok & the entire time i was thinking "why did it take your friend telling you to check on your horse for you to finally check on your horse?" hard to feel bad for someone who was neglectful for 4+ months
I have 1 question: did the "trainer" not think that the horse WOULD eventually die of starvation? Did she think no one would care? Just- what was she thinking (assuming she did think in the first place...)?
Furthermore: she asked to keep the horse 2 more weeks. A rationnal person would use that time to re-feed him correctly, and hide the abuse. Those 2 weeks wouldn't be enough to give the horse an healthy body mass, but at least he would have looked better and survived...
There's a PM report circulating which seems to indicate this horse died from emaciation, but the underlying problem was was severe, chronic kidney failure (most likely from a defect the horse was born with which became worse over time). My guess is that normally she gets away with underfeeding the horses a bit while she has them and then just tries to make them look somewhat better at the end (hence the "could she have another 2 weeks thing), but in this case the horse didn't cope and its health crashed (once it was in complete kidney failure she would have had zero chance of getting it back to looking decent with a bit of extra food for 2 weeks) and she didn't know what to do about it and left it until the horse was literally on death's doorstep before calling a vet out. It's super weird she didn't contact the owner earlier as it sounds like it had a terminal underlying health problem that in itself wasn't her fault and the horse may never have being going to live a long healthy life (however she may have hastened the death of if the reports of other horses under her care being underweight are real. Sick horse + not feeding it adequately, or if water was ever withheld to this horse = bad things happen). I have no idea at all what the trainer was thinking.
I left my horse with a trainer for a month nearly before I visited but my friends have had tons of horses trained by her on her training yard & she is a top level competer so it was completely safe for us but this does not work for everyone always check the trainer out & make sure your horse is safe, that poor women so heartbreaking beautiful horse starved horrifically she needs to be in jail.
I love you girl you speak the truth and deliver the punch. Why didn't she check on her horse if she wasn't the least bit curious why she couldn't see her horse WITHOUT the blanket. It hurts knowing the horse had to suffer over PURE ignorance.
This story is literally so sad. 💔My 3 yr old gelding I raised since his birth has been in training for 2 months. He will come home in October. The training facility he is at is 3 hours away. But I still take the time to get on a train and visit him AT LEAST once a week. The woman who is training him is so lovely. She's always teaching me methods of desensitising him and making him a safe, calm, happy horse. She's also helping me not lose my bond with him bc sometimes I think he likes her more than me lol. He's also made best friends with a mini pinto even though he's literally almost 16 hh. Haha they're so cute together. I love ur vids btw🥰
"Two things can be true at once" yes! I'm here for the logical thinking, ask "us" to Do better. Th ink better. This applies to every aspect of life. Thanks. ❤😂❤
One of the horses at the ranch I manage is an X Texas Prison horse. A gorgeous buckskin gelding- came to use skin and bones from the rescue… he’d been kept in a mud lot by the previous owners and starved. After a year of love, vetting, exercise, and good food he still has a grade 4 heart murmur so he’s not a fit for our program but he’ll be a pasture pal for my coworker’s sweet old senior mare. I don’t think he would’ve made it if he hadn’t made it to us.
Agree with all of this. This is horrifying. I feel sick to my stomach for the horses that have been subjected to unnecessary suffering because of this. There needs to be consequences
The after photos are actually horrifying. Something like this happened at the place my friend worked at. Someone was starving horses, luckily none died because my friend fed them and delt with the trainer. I feel so bad for Whiskey!
After boarding my horses on and off for decades, it was often a battle to get proper care. The games with feed never ends. I am still recovering from the exhaustion of protecting my babies. Overfeeding with sugar and refusing to feed as advertised. Crappy hay and being turned out in mud and dangerous pasturemates. Too many times the clients had secret agreements with each other to protect our horses. These were " respected" facilities. I think Hell is waiting for certain trainers and stable owners.
4 months and she didn't come to see her horse once a month to check on him and make sure this woman was doing what she paid her for?! Authorized for her horse to be euthanized OVER THE PHONE without even seeing him and the vet?! Didn't check on this woman's background before leaving her horse with her?! Just looking at a picture of this woman and I get chills down my spine. She looks like a prison guard. Negligent and careless owner who left her horse to a psychopath.
Dude, Amber was only 1 1/2 hours away from her horse. 🤔😮💨Why in the world did she ditch the horse for so long?? Didn't drive short distance to check in to see how "training" was going IN PERSON???? What? 😮💨 She had sense things were not right...and still didn't swing by to check in person. Amber's long post was super annoying when she had ZERO time for horse over months. 🤔🙄That part is so, so stupid, and makes absolutely no sense. 🙄
Poor Whisky😢. I would never send my horse away to be trained, without making every effort to check on him at least twice a week. I have a twenty two year ex racehorse rescue, which has a horrible history of abuse and trauma. I took the extra effort and found a good trainer who comes to my property to help me train him. Given that he has bad anxiety, this is the best solution for us.
Oh my God! I'm horrified on so many levels. Raleigh, I'm so glad you have taken on these insane, horrific stories. That poor horse and owner. Neither can recover from the profound pain that occurred.
I was so lucky. I trained my own horse, with lots of community help, learned from the good stuff and what not to do from the bad stuff. But I was 14 by the time it was time to get on, so my parents searched for a trainer. He turned out to be the real deal. Training her meant training us both, and there was no question, none at all, I put in the work, she was my horse, I was the one to get on first. My parents paid him so that wouldn't happen, but he was the real deal, and so of course I got on first. I can't say on social media what these assholes deserve, but they'd wish for prison if I had my way.
This is so bizarre! Is there a history of this at that facility? Why would they single these horses out? No matter what the cause it seems really strange for a professional trainer to let this happen. In fact I have never heard of anything like this happening here where I live. This is really messed up. I hope the state is keeping other horses safe. Thing is they should be able to trust a facility yes! The facility should be closed down and any other that pulls this. Yes trust is the foundation. We should be able to trust them to care for any animal we place in their care. They get money from us to be responsible with our animals. There are so many reason people board horses and one of them might be they simply cannot be there so they do the responsible thing and pay others to do it. It is a serious job and trust is a big part of it. So if someone is caring for an animal and is being paid they need to step up and do their job or not have it.
Agreed, always go and check your horse. Always go with the best trainer in your area. Or expect to spend hundreds of dollars extra to fly out to the area, pay for a hotel, and rent a car. Always surprise the trainer, no matter how much they hate it. Never tell them your coming over. You will be surprised how much bad behavior you can catch showing up unannounced. You don't have to worry about just not being fed. Abuse is so common at training facilities, always go and check your horse atleast 1x per month.
YES YES YES YES YES
I agree! Quality trainers won't mind the pop in visit.
@@RaleighLink Once a month is nowhere near often enough! Once a week is barely enough. Only ever send a horse away to a place with an excellent reputation, and only leave them there if you are getting a COMPLETE video once a week, plus your weekly visit.
I don't always agree with everything you say, but I totally agree with every word you said in this video. 100%!
@@cattymajiv agreed, but realistically if the horse is half way across the country once a month is usually all you can do, tsking off of work several times a month could be grounds to get fired. And lets be real, getting fired or layed off is too dang common right now. Atleast once a month is reasonably financially and workwise. More is better of course, that is enough to notice worsening condition in time to remove them from the facility, enough to catch abusive practices, and see what the facility might look like when no one is expected. Is it kept clean and reasonably tidy or does it look like a boom went off stalls are filthy, horses are filthy, no water, no hay, covered in flies ect... You can see a lot when you show up unannounced even once a month. but I agree 1x a month is not the best more is obvioiusly better.
@@Kholoured If that is the case, I stand with Raleigh. If you cannot travel to see your horse, a) you should not be boarding them so far away that this is a problem or b) maybe you should not even be owning a horse, period. If you are in a precarious work situation (as so many of us are) you should not be owning a horse. Period. This is not a machine that can just sit unattended, this is a living creature. Sometimes the most ethical thing is to say, "yes, I've always dreamed of owning a horse, God only knows how much I want a horse of my own, but--let's be honest, I am not in a position nor will I ever be in a position where I can do the right thing by this animal, so that is one dream I am just going to have to give up." It's very painful to come to that realization and society certainly does not support it, we are told do not give up no matter what and dreams can come true, everything works out in the end, so if that's what you really want, go for it. There is nobody saying, hey, sit down, count the costs, be honest about your ability to take care of this animal timewise and financial-wise. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Because it is ALWAYS the animals that pay in the end.
I want to add that for 37 years I worked in an animal research facility and I know a lot of people have very strong feelings about that, so I don't want to go into a debate over it. But I will tell you that I have seen and heard horror stories like this that would NEVER, EVER, EVER be allowed where I used to work. Management fired a technician just for drawing a mustache on a beagle with a sharpie. They made it very clear that abuse or mistreatment was not to be tolerated. Frankly, I would MUCH RATHER be a lab animal at an accredited lab than to be someone's pet! Our animals were fed every day (except when they were being fasted for procedures), their cages were cleaned every day, some, depending on the species, were allowed out of their cages for a short time for enrichment purposes including play time with staff (yes, really!), there were regulations governing housing, how much square feet you need per animal, guidelines concerning pain and distress. There were veterinarians on site every day. What happened to Whiskey would have NEVER happened at the lab where I worked. NEVER. We were constantly being monitored by the FDA, USDA and other animal welfare organizations. And yet I have had people who have no idea of how studies are conducted and all the hoops you have to jump through to get approval, tell me that "what you do is cruel"--meanwhile they are keeping dogs confined practically 24/7 in travel carriers that are much too small for them, but that is not cruel, oh, no. I'm sorry, but! If the FDA or USDA came into THEIR homes and THEIR barns, they would shut them down for not complying with the Animal Welfare Act. Here's the truth, a lab rat has MORE legal protections than your horse, dog, or cat. If this trainer were running an equine research facility, she'd be shut down in a heartbeat. It simply would not be allowed. She would lose her accreditation and with that, her clients. Well, I'm done with my rant.
The vet should lose his license.
Especially since he claimed the horse's heart was paralyzed, aka not beating, yet the horse was still breathing. Biologist here, breathing always stops first.
Agreed.
@@thatonelampent5958 Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that. Sorry but if the horse's heart isn't beating, what did she pay for euthanizing an already dead animal? How sure is the owner that it WAS a real vet anyway? I have questions.....lots of questions.
@thatonelampent5958 not true.
@Odontecete a heart can be in layman's terms "paralyzed" without death occurring. In 2 legged varieties it's Vfib. Not sure what the 4 legged friends chambers look like. I imagine it's still a fibrillation; but not sure what chamber it originates in. Heart ❤️ just quivers like jello. Death will eventually occur but I can imagine a vet wanting to humanely euthanize at this point.
NEVER leave a horse with any trainer if you can't check in (IN PERSON) on a regular basis. 😢
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Or if you actually know the trainer
There is a factor in that kind of case to that which I myself fell victim to. When you're insecure in your knowledge and gut and the trainers run roughshod over you. You can begin to question if its right and get absolutely bullied without realising and bamboozled. Especially when you're in a position of not being able to move anywhere else waiting for agistment to line up, stuck on a timeframe and everyone around you telling you its alright.
I could check on a regular basis. I was getting my photos and working to get her out asap. I did not like the man, but everyone around me said "oh he's just a cowboy" meanwhile he's firing off phrases like 'These thirteen year old barbies were all whining so I shoved my snowballs in their mouth.' Like DUDE. I got very crowded in, having to be delicate to keep a roof over my horse's head whilst trying to hurry things along. COVID didn't help.
If this woman was uneducated on how to deal with pushy trainers and folk around her being all 'its fine' you can see how she'd get lost in the shuffle. Its not an excuse, or acceptable, but it becomes understandable HOW it could happen.
@Blackdragon99omfg please always go with your gut and don't let any trainer insult you or push you around. They are supposed to be helping you, not causing you stress! You probably know more than you give yourself credit for. You know your horse. Anyone can call themselves a professional, but a true professional horse trainer treats clients and their horses kindly and respectfully. ❤️
@@annjohnson8437 Oh I thankfully managed to get out. But jesus it was bad. I'm a very fight driven person, but finacials and circumstances couldn't let me. I got out fast, immediately called the vet and went "Check my horse and make sure this dude didn't hurt her." I was ready for blood to the point the vet was talking me down. Over a few minor scratches. Figured he did the western tied Tia and let Tia pull so she chaffed her nose.
Tia showed me too. When I could do everything he was doing WITHOUT needing to get aggressive. That horse spoke more volumes to people than my bared teeth.
I more mention it as a factor so many people don't consider. How easy it can be to bully a young woman. Especially when you've made a career out of it for longer than she's been alive. Which I feel many of these trainers do. Either the be your best friend, or treat YOU like the horse they walk over.
I have taken very expensive imported stallions in training for years, with owners that don't ride and only see their horses at shows. I kept a daily training log and took a video weekly to document the progress of the work. I can't imagine anyone expecting less.
Exactly! For $1000 a month I would expect detailed videos and reports, and I would have a detailed contract signed beforehand, not just hand over my horse to them with no rules. I would go see the horse on a random basis AT LEAST once a week too!
@@cattymajiv 1000 a month is cheaper than board at some places.....6 rides a week equally 24 a month. Divide 24 into 1000 just for riding and training... Where is money left for feed?
@@cynthiaspalding8027 Isn't already suspicious 6 rides a week? That seems a lot for a colt, needing rest time to build his muscles...
@@grenade8572 probably should say sessions..but she indicated rides.
@@cattymajivI pay 650 dollars a month for a board and once a week groundwork..in Poland. 1k USD for 6x sessions a week seems extremely cheap for US.
like yeah i feel bad that these people lost their horses, but were the red flags not enough for them to immediately pull their horses out? who just authorizes a euthanasia over the phone without checking on the animal first?!
The girl told her her horse was suffering. Would u rather just ket your horse go or would u want it to suffer more because of your foolish dostrust
@@starfire6279 if someone who had been continuously dodging my requests for an update and being shady just called me and told me my horse had botulism with no proof and no visual i'm not just going to believe them. approving a euthanasia over the phone without having contact with the animal is dangerous and irresponsible.
@starfire6279 and clearly the distrust isn't foolish given that the horse died of starvation, NOT botulism.
@@CatherinesClaws true but even then im bot going to ask for proof if i send my horse to a trainer and they say it's dying
@@starfire6279 that's irresponsibility on your part.
The fact that these kinds of people are even allowed to keep horses...
Fax
They are supposedly looking into this and investigating the situation more from what is said. So hopefully this lady can lose privilege to animals or pau a lot of money.
@@Wqbbarrelsnroping unfortunately paying a lot of money can’t bring people’s pets back from the dead I’ve read this same women has killed 5 horses just by looking at the comments on whiskeys photos I have no idea why all the owners of them never fought as hard as this last person but that women needs prison time not a ban on animals
@@Lyra37 I haven't looked into it, I've just heard that they are investigating it. If she's killed that many horses she should be in prison. Also i never said anything about bringing a horse back from the dead, what does that have to do with anything? I'm saying the trainer should either get banned from animals or pay lots and lots of tax money for her mistakes and well to make it all worth it she can might as well go to prison, it's where she deserves.
@@Wqbbarrelsnroping I never said you did say that but paying tax money isn’t going to help anyone she needs to be behind bars for killing people’s pets murderers don’t pay money to victims nor do animal killers they only get banned from owning animals + jail time possibly.
How come most people start caring about their animal as soon as it is dead, but not really bother that much as long as it is alive?! 😢
ugh RIGHT so fucking crazy people make me furious
Ikr it’s crazy! It’s like they think “oh no I can’t make any money from my horse anymore” and then cry. But when their horse is alive they couldn’t care less. It’s horrible
@@BeMoreBillyOfficial how exactly was the owner making money off of her now dead horse? I guess in general for most people their animals cost a lot of money and do not make any, right??!
@@sabris.6334 no as in other people. You said most people, meaning not just this woman
Amazing how that happens, huh.
Please make a video on Debrah Reed she's a animal abuser and has been put in jail for animal cruelty, and is now out and still racing horses and now doing the cutting horses 😨😱
I hate I share the same last name with her.
@@madheretic4423 I'm sorry
If you care about your animals, don't leave them at the mercy of strangers.
not everyone can start a horse, it is fine to give them to someone who can start them with less stress BUT as an owner you should check on the horse regularly
@@NightshadeGoddessif you can't start a horse, or have a trustworthy trainer, do not buy a horse you need to start. simple.
The owner only lived 1 1/2 hours away! That's nothing! I would have been there a minimum of once a week. Unbelievable and a pox on all of their houses -- trainer, owner, and the vet!
So right. I drive 50+ miles each way to volunteer at a horse rescue every other weekend. If it were my own horse, I’d be there every few days.
Absolutely. If she could visit, you could always ask someone. I frequently visit other people's horses if they are unable to - to check in, to give them some treats, loving and attention. I know they'll do the same thing for me. Life happens, we're all working adults but there's no excuse when animal life is concerned. It's not a car you can just park and forget. That being said, the legal responsibility lies on the trainer.
Why are we victim blaming? She was paying a lot of money for a service and trusted her horse would be cared for
Many places dont allow visits
Regardless of mistakes she made, she lost her horse, and the woman 'caring' for it is the culprit
Hell once a month minimum
@@goblinofsharksnackssounds like the places that don't allow visitors should go out of business
She lived 1h30 away and never went to see him in 4 MONTHS??!! She didn't even miss him, or thought he might miss her??
You NEVER, EVER, and I EMPHASIZE on this:
Just look at a photo/real life of a horse (or any animal) with something covering it. Whether it's a saddle, a blanket, a harness, whatever.
I used to watch a horse rescue where they go to auctions and it's practically every horse that they rescue underweight has this done. It hides their ribs and body condition, it hides sores, it hides whip marks, it hides so damned much that you cannot tell anything about the animal.
Same with bandages to an extent, it is the oldest trick in the book.
It’s crazy that the vet lied.
It’s highly unethical bjt not shocking. In my farrier apprenticeship I watched a well known vet (who’s since retired), my mentor, the staff and a trainer re take x rays. Not because the horse was moving or wouldn’t stand on the blocks. But because they kept trying to get a better looking x ray of the feet so the buyer wouldn’t decline the sale.
It was gross and I walked out.
Vets lie more often than you think.
Some say maybe there was never a Vet? The Owner of Whiskey never saw this Vet
@@susanneal6063 then how would they euthanize the horse?
It does say she face timed with the "vet" @susanneal6063
Youre right. The owners story of never getting photos but still not bothering to show up wasn’t sitting right to me. That poor horse..
She did get photos
Fully agree with your stance on horse ownership. People need to take care of the animals that rely on them.
This has enraged me so much! I was raised in an abusive home in a border town before the fence was installed. Drug runners would use pack horses to move stuff in and out throguh the desert mountains to keep hidden from border patrol and one day they abandoned one because he had gone lame. He ended up on our property. I was a preteen at the time and begged my parents to keep him. I nursed him back to health and he became my best friend even though he would likely never be rideable due to his injuries.
My parents got tired of paying for his food and gave him away to coworkers that owned a "ranch" with the promise I could visit whenever. I did not have much hope as they beat him with a crop to get him into the trailer. Despite my tears and protests they took him and never allowed me to see him. I was I formed a few months later that he had been put down. I know that something like this happened to him and it haunts me to this day.
TL;DR: Please, love and protect your horses! They depend on you and trust you. They deserve to be treated as your family. If not, don't bother owning one.
I am so sorry!
I'm so sorry...
i’m so so sorry x
Heartbreaking...
I'm so sorry this happened how awful hearing things like this confirms humans are just not meant to be here, Covid Anthrax it's just never enough to rid us from this amazing plant. We're suppose to save it yet in the long run animals would be beater off .
Bro wtf. Don't put her behind bars, put her UNDER the prison
Fax.
STRAIGHT TO JAIL ⛓️
This is beyond neglect. How can that woman watch this baby die. Someone would have to get bail money.
So the owner wasn’t getting images of her horse and didn’t bother to take one afternoon to go check on him? I’m sorry but she is partly at fault for not ‘checking on’ her horse for several months. Rest in peace to that poor horse
Yeah probably. I had my horse at an "experts" care once (for about a month) vecause she told me she could get him to walk calmer outside (never happened under her "care" btw) after a month or so she had told me 3 times to not come over to look for my horse because he was supposed to concentrate on her 100%... no one dares to tell me to stay away from my bby, she was fired tgat week. Later found out she never really worked with him cuz she was too scared of him..
Wow!! And good for you 🙏@@PrinzessKennY
@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions thx! I am just glad that my gut feeling never misses to kick in whenever something is really off.
The barn owner tokd me that she was on him a couple of times at the start but only in a closed area (so nothing that wasnt achieved before) and she only rode on kandarre as far as I know. It took a while to get him to loosen up on the rein again afterwards, I assume she had a harder hand (he's super soft and will tuck his chin onto his chest if anyone keeps strickt contact with the reins)
Well, she did say she asked for pictures and mostly got some where she couldn't see his actual condition that well and no response towards the end. I do agree that she should have visited in person from time to time and asked for closer images/ gotten suspicious waaay earlier at not getting proper pictures.
Yup
I heard about this by another TH-camr on a video called be careful who you trust your horse with.
If I had a horse, I'd be seeing them everyday possible, because I adore horses and I want to make sure our bond and communication is on point
Wow I’ve been on her fb and already seen 3 comments saying this has happened to their horse from that SAME women… How is she getting away with this.
She has told people that her name is blank and lied to them. She has been around the Maryland area before moving moving to New Jersey.
When I sent my horse off to a trainer I was there to watch training sessions too… not just checking on her well being. I wanted to see how he was training her… to pick up tips, to make sure he wasn’t abusive… and just because I missed her. I feel bad that her horse died but if she checked on her horse it wouldn’t have happened.😢
I wish I had intensive owners like you. I worked with horses wanting to work with the owners as well to help teach them about their horses and etc. We would set up appointments for them to come out and work with me and their horse. They would NEVER show up or show up dragging their young kid with them with no one to watch it. They knew I would work with their horse after I got off of my day job and the approximate times, I would invite them to come watch me during a training session with their horse. They NEVER would come for a visit or anything. The owners are usually the morons in many cases.
@@suzannejohnson9109 you sound like an amazing trainer. The man I had picked to train my horse was the same way. I learned so much from him! I don’t understand why people would send their horse off to be trained, and not want to see how the trainer did it! People that aren’t dedicated to their animals shouldn’t own them IMO. Thank you for being one of the good ones🙂
That's what my trainer says. That she can tell what the owner is like after one session with the horse. Biggest compliment I got was "Keep doing what you're doing." and when I picked him up 4 weeks later, she went "Can you bring me more like him? He makes work fun and easy."
I totally agree with you Barbara. I was thinking the exact same thing while watching Raleigh’s video. What is wrong with people?
Goodness, I travel over an hour a day for work each day, so almost two and a half hours a day there and back and the owner couldn’t be bothered going to check on her baby at all, in an entire four months? Actually over four months if you include the extra two that so called trainer asked for. Besides the fact that I’d miss my horse terribly, I’d definitely want to see what the trainer was doing, or how she does some things in case I wanted to continue with a little training at home.
This video broke my heart. So incredibly sad and totally didn’t have to happen.
Everybody involved with that training facility, should spend some time in prison in never be able to work with animals again, including this so called vet, who absolutely must lose their licence on top of that. That poor sweet horse💔
@@suzannejohnson9109Some People seem to see Horses like Cars. Just make that it works and thats it! Im generally Curious how it works for Horse Owners when someone else only trians their Horses but the Horse isnt used to work with the Owner?
So sad. This is why I don’t trust anyone when it comes to my animals. I only trust myself and people that I have known for multiple years. Mostly family members. There are too many sh!tty people in this world and that is all I have to say. JUSTICE FOR WHISKEY AND THE OTHER HORSES THAT DIED!!!! 🤬
I'm going horse riding today I have heard of the incident with the pour colt he died from starvation for 4 months he was skin on bones
I love your channel
This is so infuriating. I love my horse, I go ride him at least twice a week and I'm being dead serious when I say seeing him like that horse would give me trauma.
This whole situation is disgusting
I don't own a horse, but I have cats and dogs. I don't understand how people can send their animals away and not visit them in MONTHES. It's not even that I'd be suspicious to their caregivers (I'm really, really, really naïve), but I love them too much to not see them. And if the smallest thing wasn't right, I would immediately take them home.
@@grenade8572 i agree and personally i believe that the owner should be part of the training process with any animal but especially for horses.
I would have walked bare-foot in the snow/ice/freezing cold rain! NO EXCUSES!!
I agree with every word you said, Raleigh, the only victim is the poor horse! 😢
Fly High, Whiskey 🕊 Safe in God's pasture 🙏
Thank you for saying this, Raleigh. As a former animal research lab employee it makes my blood boil when I hear stories like this. "Oh, but animal research is so cruel!" The truth is animal research is a very highly regulated industry and the health and welfare of those animals is very closely monitored. There is no room for "irresponsibility" or "neglect" in animal research. None. This would not have happened had this been an accredited research facility. Now you can debate the whole day long as to whether animal research is ethical, but I am going to say this, I would much rather be a lab animal at my former laboratory than to be owned by someone like Amber. At least there I wouldn't be starved to death!
This is a disturbing story on so many levels and Raleigh is absolutely right when she says the only victims are the horses. IF what Amber is relating is true, and she is not just being vindictive because her horse died in training, then she bears a lot of the responsibility as well. I say vindictive because we do not know the whole story. There may be something going on behind the scenes, a personal grudge, perhaps. But let's give her the benefit of the doubt. She strikes me as a naïve, inexperienced horse owner who got in over her head and was taken advantage of by an unscrupulous trainer who saw her coming a mile away. I'd bet that none of the horses in that trainer's barn belonged to locals who lived nearby and were in a position to check up on them. Instead, she sought out clients that were just like Amber. It strikes me as very odd that Amber never visited during all this time, not even when she got the news that Whiskey was dying. If it were MY horse, I would have told the trainer and the vet, HOLD IT, DO NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL I GET THERE, and then I would have dropped everything, hopped into my car and broken every speed limit between here and there to be with my horse. Of course, I wouldn't have let things go that far to begin with, but--it seems that while she could not manage to come see Whiskey while he was alive she seemed to have no trouble finding and intercepting the truck that had his body and then sending it to necropsy. WTF? This is where I am beginning to suspect that there is more going on than what Amber is telling us, and I'd like to hear the trainer's side of the story, though it seems to me she's no saint either as this does not seem to be an isolated incident. It will be very interesting to see what (if any) follow-up there is to this story, and whether Amber has learned something from this tragedy or will simply go out and get another horse, rinse and repeat. Thank you for speaking up for the animals!
Agree, the owner seems young, naive, or inexperienced, maybe all three. I'm hoping she learnt a valuable lesson about being responsible for your horse, and *proactive* in that responsibility.
I'm so glad you're making a video about this! It's horrible but this story needs to reach more people 😢
Horrific, hard to listen to. The owner is resposible for the demise of the horse, as well as the so called trainer and vet. The Vet should lose his licence.
Whyyy? Because he was called and showed up to an acute situation and ONLY had the info that was given to him? Especially if this client was a long term one without previous issues.
@@DrDIY1 What you are saying is he wasn't compentent enough to make an assestment on his own.That's even worse. A vet should listen to the trainor but also be educated to read through the
lines and make his own decision. Don't know the vet or her,and I suspect you don't either.
@kathleenmcdonald6641 no, that's not what I was saying at all.
It is horrific... Idk that I think the owner is really responsible for this though.
I'm currently paying about the same for my mare to be trained, fed and housed, and trust the trainer as she is reputable in the area and well-known for her care of horses. She sends me photos and videos frequently and my mare looks great.
There are no good trainers in my immediate area, so she's about 10 hrs away from me, and I'm not able to visit as often as I would like.
I think blaming the owner for another individual's manipulation and abusive behavior, and then covering it up, is unreasonable.
That being said, I would have absolutely never "okay'ed" a euthanization over FaceTime... My red flags would have gone up immediately and that would have become an emergency drive, no sleep, all nighter. I also would have conferred with my mom and our vet to cross-examine what the vet and trainer were saying.
@@afoxinthewoodsShe was 1.5 hours away, she didn't even get full body photos, she didn't ask for updates, there's no excuse. That being said..If a horse is suffering to the point of needing to be euthanised - waiting is cruelty.
My horse is a rescue. I've seen pictures of her from when the herd was seized. She was nothing but skin and bones.
The only times I don't see my horses daily is if I'm away or sick. Since 11/26/23, I've spent a total of 2 weeks in the hospital and am currently recovering from heart surgery.
I wasn't allowed to drive for a month. But as long as I was up to going out to the farm (I rent a field and do self care), I had someone pick me up and take me.
I'm blessed in that I have several people who are willing to care for them if I can't.
I'm still not allowed to ride and am just starting to do more than feed, water and care for the field (rotational grazing, field is cleaned weekly, mowed, manure spread and dragged).
There is a woman at the farm that is unable to come to the farm. But, she gets a pass. She is in very poor health and may not ever be out again. It's too far for her to drive. But her horses are still fed. They still see the farrier and the vet.
Absolutely. We fired the barn manager at our rescue for pocketing money for unregistered boarded horses. He was a nice guy and very knowledgeable as a trainer but wasn't honest with how he was managing. We nipped this in the bud after just one discrepancy. Our staff took care of the feeding supplements, all our horses are on pasture, but I was always wondering just how much training was actually going on by the manager.
I visited my horse every single day when she was in training. I missed her terribly and wanted to groom her, walk her, and keep that bond strong ❤
Racing is so evil. My friend had a retired racehorse that was super messed up and they couldn't save him, recently they put him down. I was really sad they couldn't save him and I wonder what happened to him.. he was only happy when he could run, he used to run alongside me in the pasture and he seemed so happy. I wish he was still here🤍. Your videos have helped me so much to understand what happens to racehorses. Thank you, Raleigh!
THANK YOU!! I hate racing I own a retired race horse who was very abused and I hate it with a passion
The really sad thing about it is that racing actually can be done ethically and with less danger to the horses, but because so much money is involved, along with wealthy individuals who don't care about the animals beyond the income they might produce, ethics go out the window. I'd list some examples of ethical things that could be done, but then this reply would get way too long. I will say one of the biggest ones would be to not only base a horse's age on its actual birth date, but to not allow for racing any horse below the age of 5 when their minds and bodies are more likely to be fully developed.
I'm shocked by the vet's collision in this case
Collusion, not collision. Why do people not bother reading their own posts for typos?
@@cattymajivwow, that was unnecessarily rude.
@@cattymajiv dyslexia
Awful people associate with awful people.
"Collusion" is the legal term. But yes, "collision", seems to be much more accurate , actually. Totally.
Humans are heartless monsters, there's that small precent of real people who are not afraid to bring this up, to do all they can to stop this. they are people like Raleigh who know they a voice and they use it,
If I was the owner, I would be checking on my horse at least once a week. Rather there where red flags or not. If the owner was not so careless, this horse could have lived a good 25 more years.
Why are we victim blaming? She was paying a lot of money for a service and trusted her horse would be cared for
Many places dont allow visits
She was sent photos, its not always obvious something is off to start
Regardless of mistakes she made, she lost her horse, and the woman 'caring' for it is the culprit
@@goblinofsharksnacks No, the person that was apparently ‘training’ the horse, was giving SO many red flags the whole time, and the owner couldn’t care enough to give her horse at least 1 visit? I’m doubting rather you watched this video or not hon
@@Ella_TheEquestrian I did watch it entirely, how can someone be aware of a risk they dont know of or understand? Like any situation in life, without experience most people cant just recognise red flags.
Its easy to point out when you do have that experience.
The horse always being in a coat in some places isn't particularly weird, here for example they'll have coats on for up to half the year, if you're getting a weekly update it can take time before you actually notice something off.
No one gives their animal to someone expecting this to happen, did she fk up by not visiting or pushing more? Sure, but its in our nature to reason against our own doubts, the trainer had a lot of horses, went to shows, most people would see this and think she must be trustworthy. Many places also don't allow visits, and the owner may have thought the trainers behaviour was the norm with how busy they can be.
There are so many aspects to the whole situation, she was naive, she learned a lesson in the worst way, she has to live with the loss and regret, that is punishment enough.
You lot should be going after the trainer, not looking to put blame on the owner, how is that helping anyone or anything? Additional punishment is unnecessary.
If the trainer wasn't a piece of sh*t this wouldn't have happened.
@@goblinofsharksnacks A lot of what you said is correct--when you're young you're not familiar with just how awful people can be. You put trust where it shouldn't be, and don't take the actions necessary to keep other from taking advantage of you. It's just....if these mistakes made by a young and naïve owner aren't pointed out, then how will other horse owners to learn? My Dad taught me a lot of what we're talking about here, he "knocked the shine off me" as he used to say--teaching me not to be too trusting of others. Kind of a "trust but verify" attitude. Anyway, I do feel bad for this young woman and this was a super-harsh way to learn this lesson. Sometimes you can be too trusting.
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Not only should she be put in jail all of her horses need to seized and given to responsible owners and I can’t even imagine the abuse used to train him if this is what happened to him😕
Also; I would almost bet on it that she took those pictures in the first few days, to have some room to lie to the owner(s).
I send my 3yo mare for training. 20 minutes away. I was there at least once every week. I checked upon her. I watched her condition and stuff... She did lost some weight, but I assumed its from stress after moving and also more work, so I worked out new diet for her.... After a month I needed to get her back home...it was weird, but okay... I decided to get trainer who going to our farm... My little mare, Who know what saddle is, what girth is, what stirrups are behaved absolutely crazy... I found out they Most likely lied to me about the work. Pretended infront of me that she's Working well, and there's high possibility, she was starved... I can't forgive myself for what happened. I wanted the best for her, but ended up hurting her.
You did the best you could. Not easy to catch the abusers red handed.
I'm glad the coach at my barn starts horses; I know how she works (she teaches me groundwork) and, if I'm lucky enough to have my own horse someday, I'd just ask her to start him.
Gosh I feel so bad for whiskey 😢 bad owners and ignorant people
That is insane how does she sleep at night knowing she killed an INNOCENT horse?!
That vet better get their shît revoked
Her horse was gorgeous! How dare that “trainer” cause the horse to be unalived!😡🤬🤬😡💔
I only kept my horse at home, you can't trust people.
I saw another video on this… it’s just cruel. Fly high sweet sweet boy 🕊️
I completely agree, my horse is an hour away and I go see her every day.
Wondering why on earth the owner did not go over there several times and check on him??
Exactly! The only time I don't see my horse every other day is when we go on vacation, and we keep vacations short so that we don't have to be away from him!
I think she didn't care as much as she wants us to believe. She told a vet over the phone to put her horse down, without even considering getting in the d-mn car to see her horse one last time.
The only way I could excuse not checking on a horse for four months is if you sent it to a facility and you couldn’t check on it due to health issues and you’re in no way capable of ensuring that whoever you ask to do so is actually checking on them too. In simplest terms if you’re bed ridden or in the hospital I get it, if not wth?
Just wanted to weigh in on this. I am chronically ill and housebound. I sent my 4y/o to a (very) reputable trainer and a friend of mine visited once a week to film her being started/ridden away for me. A few weeks down the line, even though she was looking very well, I wasn’t feeling comfortable about her progress, so I asked the trainer if my friend could hop on and have a feel. While there, my friend overheard one of the riders say that when she has a difficult horse to ride the next day, she removes the water overnight, to ensure a calm ride the next day.
My girl was boxed up and out of there the next day.
Maybe not everyone is lucky enough to have a friend like mine, but it boggles my mind that someone *with* physical capacity would leave their horse with a trainer for that long without any check-ins at all!
@@spellywelly it’s disgusting that people take advantage of other’s trust like that.
@@jmcg9822 I know! This really was a good producer and the girl in question was fired after our complaint. I don’t even know whether it actually happened to my mare. But it shows that things like this can and do happen anywhere.
@@spellywelly ya, I don't like how people are going after the owner like stuff happens and not everyone can drive back and forth or leave a job, big welders or oil rigs those people can work for months on end in different locations depending on the job
Thing is though, I was in a situation like this once. Not me in hospital but my horse! My horse had to stay at a hospital/rehab place until he was well enough to make the journey home. It was several hours away (other side of the state), in the middle of regular covid lockdowns (trying to keep a facility open is easier the less chance you had of someone positive coming through), and they couldn't have people wandering in and out unsupervised in a facility not open to the public, so once he was moved out of the hospital into the closed off rehab area, they weren't very keen on having visitors. As much as I wanted to see him, the reasons were understandable, given their rep I knew they could be trusted, and they sent me regular updates in place of being able to come in, including videos so I could see clearly how he was going. A trainer should be providing no less in the form of regular good quality videos or photos if someone isn't coming in regularly to see their horse as much to cover themselves as to put the owner's mind at ease. That the trainer would only provide far away photos of rugged/saddled horses when asked is just weird and I'd be down there just checking out what was happening if at all possible. The owner sounds like they were continuing to go out there and show their horses/attend clinics etc. Sounds like not a "could not come" issue, and more a "did not think it was necessary to make the time to go" problem.
This is so true. I got seriously sick and couldn’t see my guy for couple of months. This was the only time I could not check on him. When I came to see him he was thin and he was sick. In some ways he had never has been the same.
I saw the pictures on facebook and I immediately got a horrible stomach ache, this is actually disguting.
Justice for all of the horses she has done this to
Absolutely correct! The horses are the victims of owner and facility neglect and any other owner whom may have witnessed this is also guilty of neglect to report.
I also questioned the owner's lack of visiting the horse once the "trainer" was "too busy" or "not available" to send pictures or answer questions as they occurred.
So disgusting and worst part if found guilty probably light sentence maybe a fine and probation. A horse trainer in Massachusetts found guilty of horse abuse (starvation) was actually hired to be the stable manager at Camp Pendleton, CA. I told the manager a horse was being starved and abused and she did NOTHING. I called base animal control. The horse was euthanized and owner kicked out of CP. I don't believe her termination months later was related to this.
I agree! She should have gone out to check in on her horse! But that trainer should NEVER Ave allowed near another animal again!
AMEN!! Thank you for stating that the owner should have checked in on her horse. Could have saved him especially if the trainer wasn't sending pics to her. So sad!
I read an article online yesterday that Authorities were investigating a site' in Australia where they found over 500 horses carcasses, in varying states of decay?
That woman should be charged with animal abuse..I'd get a lawyer on that one..to at least get the money back for whiskey's so called training.she committed murder.
This is so so sad these poor horses
how she didnt go visit her animal just baffles me. My horse is boarded an hour away from me at the moment and I still manage to see my animal every other day (if not every day)...
like what??
Disgusting. Hope she gets whats coming to her. She should be in jail
I was the first to make a video about this. Rest in pastures in heaven whiskey. And to the lady who killed this horse. 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬🥺😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡
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@@Thatcowgirl5 same
I've got a trainer friend that takes advantage of technology in a great way.
She offers a prearranged live video feed for each owner during most arena training sessions. She does ask that they hold questions until the end.
She also has live feed in stalls, but cuts off outside access at her bedtime because she's gotten phone calls "my horse is laying down" lol.
It's a great way to let owners see their horses frequently when they can't get to the barn.
This is downright sad rip boy❤ fly high
If I owned a horse and sent it to a trainer, the very LEAST I'd be doing is visiting every single weekend. Not only to keep a close eye on the condition of my horse, but also to maintain a bond with it.
And how could someone claim to care about a horse and yet just give the okay for it to be euthanized over the phone? This owner was definitely negligent.
Agree 100%. Never leave your precious child or animal in the care of a stranger without having a thorough background check, references and frequent, unambiguous, mandatory updates. They aren't your 'buddy' who's doing you a favor, you're paying them for a service, so expect professional responses and updates. If all they do is take your money and hand out excuses then that's a red flag - react accordingly. Don't be dismissive of consistently unprofessional excuses bc "they're busy." And most of all, if you don't have time for your own animal, you shouldn't have the animal in the first place. Horse ownership (or any animal), just like parenthood, means having a lot of personal responsibility. They aren't furniture. Anyways, I hope the vet is being investigated as well as this so-called trainer, and that everyone who had a hand in this inexcusable neglect and unfortunate death gets prosecuted to the fullest extent. There are so many scams and grifters nowadays it makes your head spin. It's always better to be proactive.
My stables is 30-45 minutes away from my house and we almost always go there every day. The LONGEST I have gone without checking up on my pony was 4 days and I was so worried about him in the time since we were out on vacation.
Only an hour and a half away and couldn’t check on the horse for four months... ??
Glad you address this point in the video!
i am a friend of her daughter, Grace. it has affected them so much to the point it's sickening🙁
WOW! So agree with Raleigh on the accountability here. Just can't believe the owner didn't check on her horse especially with the vague and evasive information she received. Red flags all over the place.
Damm that horrible...😢.
Keep calling these fools out
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The voice of reason!!! Love how honest and to the point you are! I don't even have a horse and never will , but I follow your channel for more than 2 years now and I love all the information you put out and keeping all those idiots accountable!!! THANK YOU
thank you for your continuous spreading of awareness about these awful people raleigh. you are my fav equestrian youtuber.
Never leave someone or something anywhere...unless you are prepared to lose them.😔💔🙏
so glad you said it because i was watching Whiskey's owner cry about his death on tiktok & the entire time i was thinking "why did it take your friend telling you to check on your horse for you to finally check on your horse?" hard to feel bad for someone who was neglectful for 4+ months
I have 1 question: did the "trainer" not think that the horse WOULD eventually die of starvation? Did she think no one would care? Just- what was she thinking (assuming she did think in the first place...)?
Furthermore: she asked to keep the horse 2 more weeks. A rationnal person would use that time to re-feed him correctly, and hide the abuse. Those 2 weeks wouldn't be enough to give the horse an healthy body mass, but at least he would have looked better and survived...
@@grenade8572 Yes!
There's a PM report circulating which seems to indicate this horse died from emaciation, but the underlying problem was was severe, chronic kidney failure (most likely from a defect the horse was born with which became worse over time). My guess is that normally she gets away with underfeeding the horses a bit while she has them and then just tries to make them look somewhat better at the end (hence the "could she have another 2 weeks thing), but in this case the horse didn't cope and its health crashed (once it was in complete kidney failure she would have had zero chance of getting it back to looking decent with a bit of extra food for 2 weeks) and she didn't know what to do about it and left it until the horse was literally on death's doorstep before calling a vet out. It's super weird she didn't contact the owner earlier as it sounds like it had a terminal underlying health problem that in itself wasn't her fault and the horse may never have being going to live a long healthy life (however she may have hastened the death of if the reports of other horses under her care being underweight are real. Sick horse + not feeding it adequately, or if water was ever withheld to this horse = bad things happen). I have no idea at all what the trainer was thinking.
@@Jsa460 Now, that makes sense. Thank U!
I left my horse with a trainer for a month nearly before I visited but my friends have had tons of horses trained by her on her training yard & she is a top level competer so it was completely safe for us but this does not work for everyone always check the trainer out & make sure your horse is safe, that poor women so heartbreaking beautiful horse starved horrifically she needs to be in jail.
I saw a tiktok saying this is the same facility that the Amber Cobb video was taken
I love you girl you speak the truth and deliver the punch. Why didn't she check on her horse if she wasn't the least bit curious why she couldn't see her horse WITHOUT the blanket. It hurts knowing the horse had to suffer over PURE ignorance.
This story is literally so sad. 💔My 3 yr old gelding I raised since his birth has been in training for 2 months. He will come home in October. The training facility he is at is 3 hours away. But I still take the time to get on a train and visit him AT LEAST once a week. The woman who is training him is so lovely. She's always teaching me methods of desensitising him and making him a safe, calm, happy horse. She's also helping me not lose my bond with him bc sometimes I think he likes her more than me lol. He's also made best friends with a mini pinto even though he's literally almost 16 hh. Haha they're so cute together. I love ur vids btw🥰
"Two things can be true at once" yes! I'm here for the logical thinking, ask "us" to Do better. Th ink better. This applies to every aspect of life. Thanks. ❤😂❤
The wonderful, Amber cobb kept and trained horses at the same facility. The owners of the property dont seem to care what kind of trainers are hired.
One of the horses at the ranch I manage is an X Texas Prison horse. A gorgeous buckskin gelding- came to use skin and bones from the rescue… he’d been kept in a mud lot by the previous owners and starved. After a year of love, vetting, exercise, and good food he still has a grade 4 heart murmur so he’s not a fit for our program but he’ll be a pasture pal for my coworker’s sweet old senior mare. I don’t think he would’ve made it if he hadn’t made it to us.
Agree with all of this. This is horrifying. I feel sick to my stomach for the horses that have been subjected to unnecessary suffering because of this. There needs to be consequences
these people are sick.
How can you not check up on your furry child in 4 months!? How!?
The after photos are actually horrifying. Something like this happened at the place my friend worked at. Someone was starving horses, luckily none died because my friend fed them and delt with the trainer. I feel so bad for Whiskey!
After boarding my horses on and off for decades, it was often a battle to get proper care. The games with feed never ends. I am still recovering from the exhaustion of protecting my babies. Overfeeding with sugar and refusing to feed as advertised. Crappy hay and being turned out in mud and dangerous pasturemates. Too many times the clients had secret agreements with each other to protect our horses. These were " respected" facilities. I think Hell is waiting for certain trainers and stable owners.
4 months and she didn't come to see her horse once a month to check on him and make sure this woman was doing what she paid her for?! Authorized for her horse to be euthanized OVER THE PHONE without even seeing him and the vet?! Didn't check on this woman's background before leaving her horse with her?! Just looking at a picture of this woman and I get chills down my spine. She looks like a prison guard. Negligent and careless owner who left her horse to a psychopath.
OMG , i hope she gets jailed. She deserves it.
Dude, Amber was only 1 1/2 hours away from her horse. 🤔😮💨Why in the world did she ditch the horse for so long?? Didn't drive short distance to check in to see how "training" was going IN PERSON???? What? 😮💨
She had sense things were not right...and still didn't swing by to check in person. Amber's long post was super annoying when she had ZERO time for horse over months. 🤔🙄That part is so, so stupid, and makes absolutely no sense. 🙄
I'm convinced she didn't care about Whiskey at all. There's no excuse for telling a vet to put your animal down OVER THE PHONE.
this is so sad for the horse😭😭😭
Its so nice having you back periodically Raleigh 💖
Poor Whisky😢. I would never send my horse away to be trained, without making every effort to check on him at least twice a week. I have a twenty two year ex racehorse rescue, which has a horrible history of abuse and trauma. I took the extra effort and found a good trainer who comes to my property to help me train him. Given that he has bad anxiety, this is the best solution for us.
I 100% agree with you, the owners of the horses should have came and looked at their horses
Oh my God! I'm horrified on so many levels. Raleigh, I'm so glad you have taken on these insane, horrific stories.
That poor horse and owner. Neither can recover from the profound pain that occurred.
These people need to press charges
They are currently working on a lawsuit against her.
I was so lucky. I trained my own horse, with lots of community help, learned from the good stuff and what not to do from the bad stuff. But I was 14 by the time it was time to get on, so my parents searched for a trainer. He turned out to be the real deal. Training her meant training us both, and there was no question, none at all, I put in the work, she was my horse, I was the one to get on first. My parents paid him so that wouldn't happen, but he was the real deal, and so of course I got on first.
I can't say on social media what these assholes deserve, but they'd wish for prison if I had my way.
I looked on facebook and she deleted her account
😂
The owner or trainer?
@@darthsol658 the trainer
She has taken her website down too but you can still see it using wayback machine.
This is so bizarre! Is there a history of this at that facility? Why would they single these horses out? No matter what the cause it seems really strange for a professional trainer to let this happen. In fact I have never heard of anything like this happening here where I live. This is really messed up. I hope the state is keeping other horses safe.
Thing is they should be able to trust a facility yes! The facility should be closed down and any other that pulls this. Yes trust is the foundation. We should be able to trust them to care for any animal we place in their care. They get money from us to be responsible with our animals.
There are so many reason people board horses and one of them might be they simply cannot be there so they do the responsible thing and pay others to do it. It is a serious job and trust is a big part of it. So if someone is caring for an animal and is being paid they need to step up and do their job or not have it.