The lawsuit had no legs to stand-on whatsoever, it was an absolute joke. The fact that it got this far is baffling to me. I hate how these big companies think they can bully the little guy.
The fact that he still had to pay that 150K kinda makes my blood boil. He went through all this stress and lies about him and he's not even the wrong but at the end he has to suffer. This world truly is a dark place.
Luckily, the internet tends to step up in these kinds of cases If he's struggling People will come together to mitigate the costs It happens quite often (like any attempted victim of Billy Mitchell in recent years)
Sorry to be a downer. This is a terrible ending for this situation. Ruben was forced to settle with Roblox. Ignoring the fact he had to pay 150k, he can’t play roblox anymore. I’d say Ruben was the biggest whistleblower for roblox and now that he cannot be an active part of the community he can’t continue to expose and criticize the corporation to the same effect he had when he could play it. Worst of all it set a TERRIBLE and terrifying precedent. Massive corporations now have seen in practice that they can sue individuals criticizing the way their games are managed. There is no way an individual TH-camr can go to court and fend off a massive corporation’s legal team due to how much lawsuits cost. Imagine if ACTIVISION sued any TH-camr covering the ongoing “misconduct” scandals. They are holding Ruben by his balls. If he decides to continue making videos criticizing Roblox such as his ongoing series about the lawsuit itself they can call it slander, refer to the settlement where it states he can’t make false statements about roblox and claim he is violating the court order. Even if those statements he is making about Roblox are true Ruben can’t fight the lawsuit due to the cost. This whole situation and how it ended is truly disturbing.
Actually he forced them to settle. Roblox even with thier crazy legal teams realized that Ruben had a counter argument and ways to prove defamation of his person. If it had gone to trial and they settled after Roblox would've been out money, or they even could have lost. What Ruben did is force a corrupt company to back down. It might have been a net loss for him but it's a win to the community, and for the wronged. Because trust me if a court found that Roblox was essentially harboring child predators and even employing them, it would be a disaster on a monumental scale for them.
@@Reineerus_The_Rat this is overly optimistic and not true. He was likely the one forced to settle. Lawsuits are extremely expensive. There is no way a single individual like Ruben would be able to even fight against a corporation with literally millions if not billions at their disposal even if that person has evidence of the allegations being false. You can't present evidence without covering the cost of fighting. Ruben was forced to take the cheaper option because he didn't have enough money. The majority of people would have to do the same. Before this whole situation Ruben was able to play roblox, make news on it and criticize roblox. Now after the settlement he lost 150k, he isn't able to play roblox and he has to cooperate with them (like deleting some vids and stuff). They have accomplished their goal of getting him off the platform and possibly even silencing him (we'll have to wait for the future in that respect). I'd even allege that roblox probably never planned to go for 1.6m but just wanted him off their platform as a whistleblower exposing them for all these terrible things and a regular critic made the company look bad. Roblox now has their biggest whistleblower gone and they can move on without even a scratch. People have to know about this or else other companies can get away with the same thing and so we could try even in the slightest to hold roblox accountable.
@@Emars118 he has stated he will continue his videos picking apart the lawsuit to further expose Roblox, and he can still upload Roblox content, just not him playing it. I would say this is an okay compromise, though I do think most of what you said is true.
Its horrible a big ass company can just throw accusations at people, and try to crush them under a tide of legal fees that drive them into financial ruin. Despicable. I hope Roblox goes bankrupt.
This really shows how the judicial system is completely unfair to people with less money. Roblox literally tried to defame Ruben Sim and Ruben can't even sue them back because it would possibly cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Roblox didn't even need to win, it seems like they just wanted Ruben to drown in debt from the legal fees since the very start of the lawsuit.
This has to be the world’s dumbest case, since not only Roblox murdered themselves and now their secrets are revealed; but they also lost to a youtuber about their *own* game 💀
Unfortunately, Ruben did not win, Roblox has won on the outside because they have banned him from playing from their platform, legally, which is a big W for Roblox, not considering the fact that Ruben has to cooperate with the corporation (deleting some videos, not being able to release content of Roblox gameplay, etc.)
As someone who’s been a victim to the dark side of these “kids sites”, I feel liberated. There is no doubt Ruben prevented parents from exposing their children to the dark web. It almost brings me to tears.
Even though he “Won”, this is still really sad. He lost 150k, and he can’t go back and try to sue because it will cost more money and a billionaire dollar company that already hates you will do a lot to ensure he doesn’t win without costing a lot. Absolutely deplorable how big companies can take advantage of people even if they are in the wrong.
@@eternalemperorvalkorion750 you realize that most of the richest 1 percent owners are people like Bezos, Musk or Gates right? There's all kinds of scumbags at the top. Stop blaming jews for everything wrong with the world. It's plain ignorance.
The fact that big companies can single out someone who exposes their "not so great business practices" and force them to lose over 150 thousand dollars is so disgusting to me.
$150k is a ton of money. This case is very horrible and more people really need to speak up against Roblox. Huge corporations are hard to be fought with, but I'm sure if many more are speaking about this, we can fix this problem.
Yeah. That lawsuit was just a punch in the face for ruben considering the huge sum of money he needed to pay + the horrible FALSE accusations they made against him + him not being allowed to play one of his favourite games again. It's so dumb that roblox didn't lose ANYTHING from that and some people are EVEN DEFENDING ROBLOX. Some kind of movement really should be started. also, love ur videos ❤
who knew gitgudWO would be here 0.o but yea we should just all stop buying robux and run roblox out of busniess cause their main source of income is the playerbase cconstantly spending robux to buy items that players make which is an endless cycle, its basically its own economy
The sad part is that Roblox will be nearly unaffected by what they've done. They will continue being one of the most successful games no matter what they do.
Maybe, this case will be more popular until parents start to hear (tho my faith in majority of parents are decreasing as i hear news like these) and not let their kids play or something, hopefully.
This isn't a victory. This isn't a victory in the slightest. A large company just made someone critical of them pay 150k in order to defend themselves from a SLAPP suit. That's a horrifying precedent that has just been set by Roblox. Sure, there case was flimsy as wet paper. They knew that well enough to settle. But the fact that they settled and didn't 'win' the case doesn't mean they walked away from this MUCH better off than they were when they sent the suit. Ruben has been effectively silenced, he in a state that would leave other TH-camrs financially ruined, and Roblox walks away with a small dent in their reputation, a large thorn out of their side, and a very clear message sent; "See that person on the other side of the courtroom? He just lost 150k because he spoke out against our company's ethics. And all we had to do was write up a shitty case file against him. "Who else wants to try to say something?" This isn't a victory. This isn't even bittersweet. It's a travesty; this is horrible outcome for this case, and for critical review of large companies.
The people who call this case a "victory" for Ruben or a "loss" for Roblox are in denial of how horrible this entire situation really is. And I get it, because this is a situation I almost wish I could be in denial over.
@@azylan I know I’m 5 months late but I’m seeing it now, so why not. The only reason they’re at all calling this a win is because it could have easily been so, so much worse. Ruben could have lost everything if this went to trial. And I mean everything.
You wanna help rubem win? Boycott Roblox,it's a crappy game anyways it's basically a battlefield of rip off games and child manipulators and a green light for kids to use their parents money to gamble,make a huge dent in their reviews and player count and the message will be sent,the little guy doesn't have to take any shit from the likes of them,ever
Doesn’t really feel like a complete win, but more like a Draw, or even a safer option for Roblox. The court case had the opportunity to let Rubin rehash all his channel content and criticisms in a publicized trial, bringing scrutiny to Roblox as a company. Settling reduces all of this into one person’s conspiracy or opinion online, and easier to downplay and deny.
it's a win-win for both ruben brought to light the stuff the roblox didn't want to show to investors, tanking their stocks and roblox got ruben off the platform
Unfortunately, Roblox was likely never trying to win. This is an intimidation tactic known as a slapp suit. It's used to dissuade others from attempting what Ruben did.
People who started playing after 2013: Huh no way. People who started playing after 2015: wasn't there this one Ped guy that Roblox defended by changing his name
honestly, thank you so much for touching on this story. my two little brothers, 8 and 6, play roblox constantly and my 8 year old brother has spent hundreds of dollars on robux. im going to be sharing all of what you've talked about to my mom. my brothers havent been exploited or groomed in any way yet, but knowing the internet, it can and probably will happen soon which is very saddening to me. again, thank you.
All we need is Disney to suffer a loss and Toei and we are happy, because there is nothing more satisfying than seeing a Greedy company get what they deserve
It really feels like "this guy is gonna expose our child sex trafficking ring, we gotta drop this lawsuit immediately" is a conversation that happened between some people at roblox
I love how when Reuben released the first part of his defense video, he not only defended himself, but then proceeded to show dozens of examples of Roblox turning a blind eye toward people who actually really screwed up stuff to people, and then further humiliated them by showing how many times they contradicted their own ToS in the report. Bunch of corrupt scumbags, Reuben should be able to keep playing. Although after all the crap that was handed to him from that, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't want to play there again.
Ruben may not be able to play Roblox anymore, but his existence has made an impact on the Roblox community. There will be more like him. 2024 Edit: Ruben Sim kinda sucks ngl, all he does these days is the occasional assistance for the roblox community but as far as i'm concerned it's mostly just petty annoying trolling on Twitter. He fell off.
Ruben has been IP banned on the platform for years now. Technically he hasn’t been able to play for a while. He has a video posted on why he was banned forever on roblox for exposing a mod for following a furry porn account on Twitter or smth.
did they? they really achieved their initial goal of: -getting ruben off the platform -charging ruben with 150k (it went to legal fees, but) -ruben loses his main source of content it's really fucking messed up but here's hoping ruben can get back up on his feet and find another source of stable viewership and income
Ruben forced a multi-billion dollar company to back down. When your just a little guy that's called a win. Especially since it's brought to light some major issues and others like Ruben are sure to appear.
as emotionally and financially draining a lawsuit with roblox would be i kind of wish someone with the funds and will to not drop dead from having to deal with the company for however long it takes would go for it, just to have it become a massive lawsuit/story and have parents take a closer look at shit like this
@Cony Budding not even gonna lie I wouldn’t even be surprised with how insane shit has gotten Man. I swear whatever alien is controlling and writing next weeks plot line are getting out of hand
This isn’t a win. He can’t investigate them anymore, directly at least, they just took out one of their only “dangerous” investigators, the corrupt company won.
But it is a win for ruben and for the future if roblox wanted to do that to other youtubers like him it won't go so well because of ruben it was a absolute W I know he lost 150k but far less the 1.6 million
@@natruslayer5557 Nah, precedent is king. The ONLY way this would've benefitted the community is if he won legally. Then there would be legal precedence of wrongdoing. Private settlements mean absolutely nothing, legally.
She acclimated perfectly to our gremlins, is so cute and lovely to see her hang out so much compared to her previous life, I do believe this is such better for her❤
This. This is why i think roblox got the last laugh. They might have been tarnished but this might go away after some time while ruben was a constant and persistent threat to their image, at least in their own community. The only way i will be able to see this as a win is if something actually happens to roblox like better protection for their users. Otherwise this would have been an expensive loss for no cause, which i really hope won't be the case.
Hey Retro, may i ask what's the movement behind Rubens exclusion from roblox means? I've never played roblox and have no idea how they operate as a platform. The action of removing one of your content creators of your own platform seems never to be a positiv move, so by whom lies the problem? (also, is this a unique case or will this be repeated?)
@@natruslayer5557 They're saying that either way, the lawyers are the ones getting paid. Ruben was fucked over paying those fees, Roblox was fucked over losing the case, supposedly. Either way, lawyers got payed all that sweet, sweet cash lol
I think the straw that broke the camel's back for Roblox, was when Ruben started posting videos criticizing Chinese internet censors and letting people who live under the censors know about the heinous actions of their government through roblox that they wouldn't have known otherwise.
To be honest, not getting completely obliterated and dragged through the mud repeatedly in a lawsuit against billion dollar companies like Roblox through the sheer power of money in the first place in of itself is enough to partly be a “victory”
I have been watching Ruben for 2 years now, knowing he won the case makes me happy but also knowing he had to pay 150k its fucking disgusting. I read some of the accusations and its just full of bs. Roblox as a game its alright but as a corporation its just disgusting, I’m so disappointed in them.
I was stoked when I heard the news a couple days ago, but now that I've thought about it a bit, the end of this case is a little bittersweet. Ruben lost 150k, and all the dirt of Roblox's name right now will probably be forgotten in a year
I had forgot what I was going to check in TH-cam today until this video reminded me that I was supposed to check Ruben Sim's channel for any further updates from his first video thanks penguin
I honestly don't see how Roblox "lost" in this situation, if I'm being honest. The lawsuit did exactly what it was supposed to do -- remove a muckraker from the platform and put him in a large amount of debt at the same time. The only thing they lost was their reputation -- and lets be honest, no corpo cares about that nowadays.
yeah i dont see how this was a lose to them in any way shape or form they silenced the guy, stopped him from being able to criticize them, gave him a big bill, and wont be punished for potentially lying nonstop just to screw him yeah it was settled, which basically amounts to censorship, so censoring him is a loss to them? how?
@Poe Soul I mean, yeah, but if he could somehow win the actual case itself, it could've cause Roblox to just be outright shut down, or forced to have a complete overhaul of the staff, or whatever else. Winning in court would have been the far better victory, it just wasn't really likely that he would.
What people do or wont do for money... Thanks for bringing this up really! At the end of these 3 vids you made i picked up my phone and called my sister that has 2 kids that use Roblox. And big thanks to Ruben Sim the legend that took a big blow for the better! Respect.
Honestly they got everything they wanted and minimized their losses. Ruben's been fined 150k for messing with big business, he's banned from their platform so he's out of their hair, and after his video they probably figured out that the reputation damage wasnt worth it. This was roblox making their best move, not conceding
They forced him off their platform... thats what they wanted. Calling this a win is a joke. Now he wont make any more videos on the subject and it also discourages others from making the same kinds of videos.
@@xkd495 but on the positive side: Like Charlie said, ruben got off easy with 150k because roblox is multi-billion dollar company. If roblox wanted to they could've just dragged the case on and on and make ruben pay for more and more legal fees but he got off easy instead. - People are now aware of the shit roblox is doing on their platform. It'll surely send shockwaves throughout the roblox community and communities around it also, and roblox settled with ruben because they dont want it to prolonged any longer as the publicity around it is negative for roblox. -boycott roblox
it's the wins in other ways. it is unfortunate that ruben has to pay for legal fees and get removed permanently from roblox, but in result of this case - roblox essentially omitted that they were in the wrong and had to fold out of the case. so having a relatively small creator versing a mega billionaire corporation and making them dip out this early before the trials got messy is pretty huge.
@@justsomeguywholikesplaying3466 I'm a Roblox player and here what I want to say Almost everybody in Roblox with the ability to think know that Roblox is shit Even kids know about it In the Roblox community almost everybody know that Roblox do bad shit. Like how Roblox won't do anything to a person bringing income to Roblox unless they needs to or stop bringing them income Like a DMCA They will keep the person on the platform as long as possible TH-camrs,developers who got exposed for the wrongs rarely get punished by Roblox. Roblox make excuses up to keep THEM on the platform . Now Ruben had been an enemy to Roblox since he expose NobleDragon(head of moderation)following a furry porn art account on fucking Twitter.
No corporation of such size should be able to sue an average person for that amount. Unless it is something seriously damaging and wrong. Why should a single man pay $1.6M to a multi billion dollar company? It's so great that he won, but that's like a rich man making a homeless give up their clothes for getting too close to their fancy car.
@@greenbuilderman3028 That's the thing. It doesn't. Roblox makes billions, they're billionaires who don't care about problems they cause. The entire lawsuit was founded on greed.
"Because It is easier to burn alive if im away from the fire, duh, why would I leave the house if I didn't want to burn alive? I left the burning house because the fire couldnt harm me from the source"
In my opinion, Roblox knew he wasn't willing to give them 1.6m dollars or delete his social media, they just slapped him w a lawsuit so they could get him off the platform for good. Kind of sad because Ruben Sim did nothing wrong, he was just exposing them for their BS. Roblox is a fun platform, but when they do things like this it just shows that they don't care for their player base AT ALL.
This is exactly what I think. I think their goal was to get rid of one of their biggest criticizers... And they got their way. Sure- He got away from the legal bills; but the money wasn't actually what they were after.
Hearing all that I do about Roblox and thinking back to all the other kid-based platforms for online games. Like Club penguin, Bin weevils and Toon Town, all those. I think I'm starting to see why they all closed down and shut up shop. They were dying as a hero in our memories rather than resorting to the stuff we see Roblox now doing in order to stay afloat, alive and thriving. If being buried and having your platform go under is the alternative to all the abuse, gambling and danger the kids are being put in. I think... It's worth saying goodbye to Roblox.
shouldn't we be more concerned that we just saw a corporation silence someone and steal 150k from em with no effort, all because he was telling us what was actually happening.
Well, the corps and govs currently hold ALL the cards. So what are we the people going to do about it? Keep bitchin online or actually force the change? It might already be too late..
i remember rubin was the only roblox youtuber i ever avidly watched just because his videos were literally so funny and genuinely well made. i had no idea he was in a lawsuit but i'm glad he won.
To be real, I’m glad the guy didn’t pay Roblox anything and that he wasn’t drained over time, but having to pay $150,000 is still absolutely horrifying. I have no idea what kind of revenue Ruben gets from his channel, but if I had to pay 150k I would be in debt 100 times over. Honestly, it wouldn’t be unfair if he asked for donations after taking a financial blow like that imo
as someone whos played roblox for years and being a fan of ruben, im so happy all these vile things roblox has done over the years are being exposed, I'm hoping that they step down and just get some new moderation for their devs and staff team.
When you go and read the settlement, it actually gives you the image that Ruben lost. Also about the 150k, the settlement reads "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a judgment in the amount of $150,000 is entered in favor of Plaintiff Roblox and against Defendant."
"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." - George R.R. Martin, A Clash of Kings
Wtf no, roblox did NOT lose this, they totally won. They cost Ruben 150k out of his pocket whether it was paid to them or not, and forced him off their platform. This is exactly what roblox wanted. They successfully scared off whistle blowers just by writing some words on a doc. They will no doubt do this to anyone else that tries to speak out as well. And while I agree the bad publicity that roblox is getting rn is pretty bad for their image, it really won't be the end of them. How many companies do you know that do stupid shit and still carry on. Remember when nestle was being shat on for stealing water from african locals? Yeah they're still doing fine. The parents that let their children run free on this website, credit card in hand, will likely not do anything after this boils down. RIP Mr. Ruben, yet another victim.
What about reputation? I think this is why everyone is looking at roblox right now because of fucked up shit involving kids. Its the whole player base. Just wait until celebrities add to this when a random journalist asks them the roblox question. People will dive in for the stories and better yet remind everyone what fucked up shit they do. Why? Because kids. There are kids everywhere in the entire globe. African water is not everywhere.
I hope he releases the other parts and more parents can be made aware, the lack of care this corporation has towards protecting kids is genuinely horrifying
@@hm-vw3dvd Actually, he probably can. From what I understand, he is not allowed to be on the PLATFORM or talk about the PLATFORM. Those videos are about the legal document, so he can still rip apart the document, like it matters.
This doesn't sound like a victory. It was a scare tactic, and it worked. You think anyone is going to want to delve deep into this issue after this? And what does Ruben have to show for it? This was a Pyrrhic victory AT BEST. Companies do this fake legal threat thing to make examples out of people all the time.
it’s not even a scare tactic, it’s just roblox being stupid. ROBLOX is the scared one, one piece of proof came out and they instantly gave in, i’d say this makes roblox an easier target, someone could sue roblox for doing nothing against child predators, and roblox will instantly give in once the most damming piece of evidence pops out. Roblox is so scared of their image being broken it might as well be a phobia
@@mr.pyromaniac628 its a tactic. you pull out something that seems big and ridiculous, then settle for something that seems small in comparison, but was your true aim all along. They got him off their platform and set him back 150k. Roblox won. Ruben was just one of the many people talking about the grooming and stock market, but Roblox denied any of it, despite the stock market thing being publicly visible to all. as for shady deals or happenings, Roblox has already stated that, if its not happening directly on their platform then it isn't their problem. where does the pedophilic behavior take place? Not on Roblox. therefore "not Roblox's problem" despite the offenders being very public about what they do. Roblox does not care as long as the cash keeps flowing.
@@mr.pyromaniac628 Insantly gave in too... Making him pay 150k while suffering basically nothing themselves? Wow what an awesome victory we won guys! Now anyone who fights with roblox will think they're forced to pay only 150k if they're lucky. Huh I wonder who really wins out in this situation in terms of setting a precedent. I wonder if anyone else will want to pursue them when this is what a "victory" for an accuser is.
If anything this wasn’t even a Pyrrhic victory, if anything Rueben can counter sue using California’s anti-SLAPP laws since what roblox did is a classic example of a SLAPP suit.
America: We have freedom of speech. Also America: Criticizing a company can cost you 150.000 dollars in legal fees. I'm sorry. But, seeing this as a win is a little too optimistic in my book.
It’s seen as a win because of how rich they are and how long they could just keep bleeding money out of him because of the money they have. It’s pretty obvious looking at the accusations of him that they couldn’t have ever won the case.
It's a win overall While Ruben did lose a lot. Roblox's reputation had been badly tarnished, with many people now learning of Roblox's missdeads and incompetence. I think this case will give others the push they need to speak up against Roblox.
This is called a SLAPP suit. It’s a way to affect a person monetarily as well as emotionally when wrongdoing by a big company is brought to light. It’s an intimidation technique in the legal world. So if Charlie and other big TH-camrs hadn’t brought attention to this, Roblox would have been the winner in this situation. The real winner in this situation now is neither Ruben nor Roblox; it is the people who now know to avoid Roblox.
It seems like a form of censorship. It is easy to see how easy winning a case is if you got the money. Look at the how easy celebrities get off from felonies. It’s just a shame it’s like court is a pay to win game. But isn’t doing this slander. I’m sure that’s illegal.
Charlie wasn't the only person talking about this. Lots of big TH-camrs and media outlets were making comments about this. And tbfh, if anyone was paying attention to the things people like Ruben were saying for YEARS then everyone would have seen this coming.
I think it’s called SLAPP, certain US states have anti slapp laws but some don’t, and I’m sure roblox could choose to sue the roblox TH-camr in any state they want to get the state laws they want. John Oliver and Legal Eagle both have great videos on SLAPP stuff.
@@OddMeterMusic yup, it is called SLAPP suits 😅 John Oliver is how I know about them even though my dad is an attorney who specializes in protecting whistleblowers like people who are discriminated against for a disability that’s protected under federal law by an employer, so kind of like the attorney that represented Ruben.
True, but he did fulfill what his initial goal was, which was calling out the bullshit on the platform and showing it to people, and it actually worked, given how far their stocks plummeted after.
@@rhomadude7938 Nope, win-loss. Ruben avoided the nuke that was having to pay the $1.6M and delete his channel, but he still had to bite a heavy bullet with the $150k legal fees and the fact he is now legally banned from playing Roblox or even getting NEAR a Roblox-related event ever again. Now that the tyrants on their thrones got rid of Ruben, it's a heavy blow to people trying to expose predators and criminals on Roblox considering how popular Ruben was with bringing attention to those types of people. Roblox is just stomping on its own feet by wiping Ruben off the face of their platform.
@@pyregg1572 They're not actually because ruben isn't even a major loss at all, there will always be more like him, exposing bad people on the platorm, minus his edgy stupid content. People who will actuallly contribute to making roblox a better place. So yeah, he won't be missed, rip and shred bozo.
This is kind of a good thing, that roblox lost, but uh. It's almost as if large corporations with shitloads of money have greater legal power than actual individual people. And that… should not be a thing. 150K is outrageous. Paying that amount of money could put someone into poverty.
It’s a very common practice for large companies who can afford to run these court proceedings for years to keep appealing until the individual they’re up against literally can’t afford to keep going. It’s disgusting and a major failure on the legal systems around the world who allow this to happen.
And worse, it wasn't because of anything actually big. They overblew a false situation, made up false accusations, and made a person with almost a MILLION SUBSCRIBERS of a fanbase waste 150k USD because some grown men at a game platform headquarters had a temper tantrum. Ruben will survive this, but how about the average person? What is stopping Roblox from going after us next? Most of us here won't survive losing 150k in attorney fees, and god forbid 1.6 million.
I remmeber that I watched ruben sim a while back, itwas genuinely funny videos and what not but i haven't seen him in like at least a year, seeing his name pop up now and in this context is actually baffling. I genuinely remember him just making roblox trolling videos on hasbin hotel and what not but jesus this just feels surreal
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“Roblox wrote some fan-fic in a legal document” truly a poet with words.
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@@zel9061 True
Not fanfic but ok, Charlie's got jokes I'll admit, but facts is far from it actually.
@@traionjones711 wooosh
The lawsuit had no legs to stand-on whatsoever, it was an absolute joke. The fact that it got this far is baffling to me. I hate how these big companies think they can bully the little guy.
Oh they absolutely bullied the little guy and then got away withit. Roblox would have to pay 150k for losing the case in my country iirc
Bro he lost 150k, what did roblox lose? A bit of rep i guess.
They know they can bully the little guy
@Nisa Suharni m.th-cam.com/video/Z6KatJHmbIE/w-d-xo.html
They don't think they know they can and get away with it
The fact that he still had to pay that 150K kinda makes my blood boil. He went through all this stress and lies about him and he's not even the wrong but at the end he has to suffer. This world truly is a dark place.
Luckily, the internet tends to step up in these kinds of cases
If he's struggling
People will come together to mitigate the costs
It happens quite often (like any attempted victim of Billy Mitchell in recent years)
Welcome to this world you figured it finally
That's like some or most of it towards his lawyer i think
I think he might be able to counter sue for his lawyer fees but thats another battle in court which he might not want to put up with
Man, kinda weird most problems on Earth would be fixed if humans just didn't exist.
Sorry to be a downer. This is a terrible ending for this situation. Ruben was forced to settle with Roblox. Ignoring the fact he had to pay 150k, he can’t play roblox anymore. I’d say Ruben was the biggest whistleblower for roblox and now that he cannot be an active part of the community he can’t continue to expose and criticize the corporation to the same effect he had when he could play it. Worst of all it set a TERRIBLE and terrifying precedent. Massive corporations now have seen in practice that they can sue individuals criticizing the way their games are managed. There is no way an individual TH-camr can go to court and fend off a massive corporation’s legal team due to how much lawsuits cost. Imagine if ACTIVISION sued any TH-camr covering the ongoing “misconduct” scandals. They are holding Ruben by his balls. If he decides to continue making videos criticizing Roblox such as his ongoing series about the lawsuit itself they can call it slander, refer to the settlement where it states he can’t make false statements about roblox and claim he is violating the court order. Even if those statements he is making about Roblox are true Ruben can’t fight the lawsuit due to the cost. This whole situation and how it ended is truly disturbing.
literally 1984
Actually he forced them to settle. Roblox even with thier crazy legal teams realized that Ruben had a counter argument and ways to prove defamation of his person. If it had gone to trial and they settled after Roblox would've been out money, or they even could have lost. What Ruben did is force a corrupt company to back down. It might have been a net loss for him but it's a win to the community, and for the wronged. Because trust me if a court found that Roblox was essentially harboring child predators and even employing them, it would be a disaster on a monumental scale for them.
@@Reineerus_The_Rat this is overly optimistic and not true. He was likely the one forced to settle. Lawsuits are extremely expensive. There is no way a single individual like Ruben would be able to even fight against a corporation with literally millions if not billions at their disposal even if that person has evidence of the allegations being false. You can't present evidence without covering the cost of fighting. Ruben was forced to take the cheaper option because he didn't have enough money. The majority of people would have to do the same. Before this whole situation Ruben was able to play roblox, make news on it and criticize roblox. Now after the settlement he lost 150k, he isn't able to play roblox and he has to cooperate with them (like deleting some vids and stuff). They have accomplished their goal of getting him off the platform and possibly even silencing him (we'll have to wait for the future in that respect). I'd even allege that roblox probably never planned to go for 1.6m but just wanted him off their platform as a whistleblower exposing them for all these terrible things and a regular critic made the company look bad. Roblox now has their biggest whistleblower gone and they can move on without even a scratch. People have to know about this or else other companies can get away with the same thing and so we could try even in the slightest to hold roblox accountable.
@@Emars118 he has stated he will continue his videos picking apart the lawsuit to further expose Roblox, and he can still upload Roblox content, just not him playing it. I would say this is an okay compromise, though I do think most of what you said is true.
@@Reineerus_The_Rat He didn't force them to settle...the defendant settled.
Its horrible a big ass company can just throw accusations at people, and try to crush them under a tide of legal fees that drive them into financial ruin. Despicable. I hope Roblox goes bankrupt.
Omfg I posted this 3 hours ago stop replying
@@rufjejjgiejfirjf But is Roblox better?
@@blurbwich3281 No.
They're equally bad.
Devs like me better get money before they go bankrupt lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂smh
This really shows how the judicial system is completely unfair to people with less money.
Roblox literally tried to defame Ruben Sim and Ruben can't even sue them back because it would possibly cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Roblox didn't even need to win, it seems like they just wanted Ruben to drown in debt from the legal fees since the very start of the lawsuit.
I dint do any research, but for what I have seen, i would say Roblox makes 1m in a month or less.
i mean what do you expect the system to do?
@@melixrism they make way more than that
@@melixrism much less than a month. They make hundreds of millions, sometimes reaching the billions, yearly.
@@melixrism they might perhaps make 1 million every other day or even daily.
This has to be the world’s dumbest case, since not only Roblox murdered themselves and now their secrets are revealed; but they also lost to a youtuber about their *own* game 💀
💀
Unfortunately, Ruben did not win, Roblox has won on the outside because they have banned him from playing from their platform, legally, which is a big W for Roblox, not considering the fact that Ruben has to cooperate with the corporation (deleting some videos, not being able to release content of Roblox gameplay, etc.)
@@ariesh_whothehelltookmyhandle thats thing, why end someones career while he is the one HELPING the community in cost of ur reputation?
@@ariesh_whothehelltookmyhandle no
@@ariesh_whothehelltookmyhandle He actually can release roblox related content still I think.
As someone who’s been a victim to the dark side of these “kids sites”, I feel liberated. There is no doubt Ruben prevented parents from exposing their children to the dark web. It almost brings me to tears.
That alone makes me feel sorry for what you've been through,hope you're doing well
and Simon did a good thing,i agree
I wonder what youtuber Roblox will sue next 😇
Didn't excepted you here lol
Hi flamingo
Surprised that you're here, Albert!
it's gonna be you.
yes lol
Even though he “Won”, this is still really sad. He lost 150k, and he can’t go back and try to sue because it will cost more money and a billionaire dollar company that already hates you will do a lot to ensure he doesn’t win without costing a lot. Absolutely deplorable how big companies can take advantage of people even if they are in the wrong.
i don't understand lawsuits, why not give the winner the money the loser was asking for when the allegations the loser puts out are fake?
@@kalebkurian6001 because laws are wrote by the same “”Pharisee”” that run companies.
@@eternalemperorvalkorion750 casual antisemitism
Justice system here is trash. UK has the right idea, only the loser pays... both parties attorney fees.
@@eternalemperorvalkorion750 you realize that most of the richest 1 percent owners are people like Bezos, Musk or Gates right? There's all kinds of scumbags at the top. Stop blaming jews for everything wrong with the world. It's plain ignorance.
The fact that big companies can single out someone who exposes their "not so great business practices" and force them to lose over 150 thousand dollars is so disgusting to me.
The irony of the mid role Roblox ads 😂😂
@Kamal Bahrin Sudin wtf r u doing here
What bro doing here, and why do you have only 8 likes?
$150k is a ton of money. This case is very horrible and more people really need to speak up against Roblox. Huge corporations are hard to be fought with, but I'm sure if many more are speaking about this, we can fix this problem.
Yeah. That lawsuit was just a punch in the face for ruben considering the huge sum of money he needed to pay + the horrible FALSE accusations they made against him + him not being allowed to play one of his favourite games again.
It's so dumb that roblox didn't lose ANYTHING from that and some people are EVEN DEFENDING ROBLOX. Some kind of movement really should be started.
also, love ur videos ❤
@@beeleav yea... Thanks btw! I'm glad you like them!
@@GitGudWO what editor do you use?
who knew gitgudWO would be here 0.o
but yea we should just all stop buying robux and run roblox out of busniess cause their main source of income is the playerbase cconstantly spending robux to buy items that players make which is an endless cycle, its basically its own economy
In the past the people have taken down big corrupt companies before so if enough people got organized we could probably do it again
The sad part is that Roblox will be nearly unaffected by what they've done. They will continue being one of the most successful games no matter what they do.
Hopefully this case showed how bad the management is at roblox is.
It may not affect them now, but it will most certainly their future, hopefully.
It affects their reputation. Still #1 in players and revenue but their reputation is worse.
@@Glacialgaming Like they care if it does not effect their bottomline.
@@Glacialgaming you think 4-12 year olds care about reputation?
Maybe, this case will be more popular until parents start to hear (tho my faith in majority of parents are decreasing as i hear news like these) and not let their kids play or something, hopefully.
This isn't a victory. This isn't a victory in the slightest. A large company just made someone critical of them pay 150k in order to defend themselves from a SLAPP suit.
That's a horrifying precedent that has just been set by Roblox.
Sure, there case was flimsy as wet paper. They knew that well enough to settle. But the fact that they settled and didn't 'win' the case doesn't mean they walked away from this MUCH better off than they were when they sent the suit.
Ruben has been effectively silenced, he in a state that would leave other TH-camrs financially ruined, and Roblox walks away with a small dent in their reputation, a large thorn out of their side, and a very clear message sent;
"See that person on the other side of the courtroom? He just lost 150k because he spoke out against our company's ethics. And all we had to do was write up a shitty case file against him.
"Who else wants to try to say something?"
This isn't a victory. This isn't even bittersweet. It's a travesty; this is horrible outcome for this case, and for critical review of large companies.
Exactly
The people who call this case a "victory" for Ruben or a "loss" for Roblox are in denial of how horrible this entire situation really is.
And I get it, because this is a situation I almost wish I could be in denial over.
@@azylan I know I’m 5 months late but I’m seeing it now, so why not.
The only reason they’re at all calling this a win is because it could have easily been so, so much worse. Ruben could have lost everything if this went to trial. And I mean everything.
You wanna help rubem win? Boycott Roblox,it's a crappy game anyways it's basically a battlefield of rip off games and child manipulators and a green light for kids to use their parents money to gamble,make a huge dent in their reviews and player count and the message will be sent,the little guy doesn't have to take any shit from the likes of them,ever
I do hope that rubem dose have my idea so he can take down the beast known as Roblox
Doesn’t really feel like a complete win, but more like a Draw, or even a safer option for Roblox. The court case had the opportunity to let Rubin rehash all his channel content and criticisms in a publicized trial, bringing scrutiny to Roblox as a company. Settling reduces all of this into one person’s conspiracy or opinion online, and easier to downplay and deny.
It’s best case scenario for Ruben let’s just say that
roblox got exactly what they wanted, i doubt they expected him to actually pay the 1.6 mil and they wanted him off the website for a while.
it's a win-win for both
ruben brought to light the stuff the roblox didn't want to show to investors, tanking their stocks
and
roblox got ruben off the platform
“If you can’t play Roblox, why even exist?”
I feel that on such a deep level
Sheeeesh 30 seconds ago
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ROBLOX'S RESPONSE TO LOSING!/
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ROBLOX'S RESPONSE TO LOSING!/
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Hi Kreek.
billion dollar company loses to average roblox youtuber
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You are right JOHN ROBLOX from the JOHN ROBLOX youtube channel.
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Never woulda thought an entire company would be so petty about having their flaws pointed out. We really do live in a society.
Unfortunately, Roblox was likely never trying to win. This is an intimidation tactic known as a slapp suit. It's used to dissuade others from attempting what Ruben did.
This is the outcome I was never expecting, good for that guy. I can’t even begin to imagine how relived he must feel
These bots are getting out of hand
to bad he payed $150k smh
Fucking christ, this guy says one thing and the Decepticons come and attack in full force
Yeah, only question left is what he’ll be doing now that he’s banned from the site.
Its not even annoying anymore; it just gets boring to see the same bots over and over again
Everyone: "Roblox is such a scummy company!"
Old Roblox Players, after over a decade of being completely neglected by the company: "Always has been."
lmao
People who started playing after 2013: Huh no way.
People who started playing after 2015: wasn't there this one Ped guy that Roblox defended by changing his name
Agreed. It always has been
Truly. Always has been.
They’re were gonna do the job for free or something
honestly, thank you so much for touching on this story. my two little brothers, 8 and 6, play roblox constantly and my 8 year old brother has spent hundreds of dollars on robux. im going to be sharing all of what you've talked about to my mom. my brothers havent been exploited or groomed in any way yet, but knowing the internet, it can and probably will happen soon which is very saddening to me. again, thank you.
It's grim that we are fine with calling this a victory. Really shows how big companies are too high above us
Yep. Our rulers love the big companies, and the little guys just tend to get in the way...
This event is worth celebrating. A corrupt, rich company actually lost for being in the wrong and justice was actually served.
Obama Mii
woah you changed your profile pic
nah "justice" is what happens when the system executes an innocent man. roblox simply got what it deserved
@@obamamii2042 this a epic comment lol
All we need is Disney to suffer a loss and Toei and we are happy, because there is nothing more satisfying than seeing a Greedy company get what they deserve
It really feels like "this guy is gonna expose our child sex trafficking ring, we gotta drop this lawsuit immediately" is a conversation that happened between some people at roblox
The online company is going to get exposed for child sex trafficking.. you can be happy for Ruben but damn, asspulled that accusation.
Sex trafficking and protecting pedophiles on the internet is two different things
@@urolledme3087 roblox apologizing too TH-camr th-cam.com/video/uA1jKDMhf1Q/w-d-xo.html
Gives me Pizzagate vibes
More like "This guy keeps exposing sex trafficking ring, we gotta scare him into settling quick" is a conversation that happened.
I love how when Reuben released the first part of his defense video, he not only defended himself, but then proceeded to show dozens of examples of Roblox turning a blind eye toward people who actually really screwed up stuff to people, and then further humiliated them by showing how many times they contradicted their own ToS in the report.
Bunch of corrupt scumbags, Reuben should be able to keep playing.
Although after all the crap that was handed to him from that, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't want to play there again.
When your victory costs you more than most people's yearly pay, it's time to really rethink the system.
Ruben may not be able to play Roblox anymore, but his existence has made an impact on the Roblox community. There will be more like him.
2024 Edit: Ruben Sim kinda sucks ngl, all he does these days is the occasional assistance for the roblox community but as far as i'm concerned it's mostly just petty annoying trolling on Twitter. He fell off.
th-cam.com/video/UGhbaVK0FGM/w-d-xo.html.
I rlly hope they just cut the head off a hydra and like 6 more appear
i seriously hope this is not the end but the Beginning of a Crusade against Roblox where thousands of people come forward
Ruben has been IP banned on the platform for years now. Technically he hasn’t been able to play for a while. He has a video posted on why he was banned forever on roblox for exposing a mod for following a furry porn account on Twitter or smth.
He can't access Roblox but can he talk about Roblox?
This man is living proof that anything's possible
@Sound City (PRAY FOR ME) why are you sending ip grabbers lmfao
@SillySanta SILLYSANTA IS THE WORST!
CHARLIE'S CONTENT IS WAY BETTER
@SillySanta dont care
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@Red 🧢 your mom does
did they? they really achieved their initial goal of:
-getting ruben off the platform
-charging ruben with 150k (it went to legal fees, but)
-ruben loses his main source of content
it's really fucking messed up but here's hoping ruben can get back up on his feet and find another source of stable viewership and income
Ruben forced a multi-billion dollar company to back down. When your just a little guy that's called a win. Especially since it's brought to light some major issues and others like Ruben are sure to appear.
@@Reineerus_The_Rat sure, and I agree. But Ruben was the cannon fodder to get here. The man didn't deserve this.
@@Reineerus_The_Rat he didn't "force" them to back down tho, he settled and lost money. Roblox won dude
ruben can make videos about roblox just not with "False info"
@@leongao5120 interesting
as emotionally and financially draining a lawsuit with roblox would be i kind of wish someone with the funds and will to not drop dead from having to deal with the company for however long it takes would go for it, just to have it become a massive lawsuit/story and have parents take a closer look at shit like this
If Roblox took me to court and I had to come out $150,000 to foot the legal fees, I'd be $149,970.69 in debt.
Yes Ruben lost this one hard the only thing he won was not losing harder this situation was fucked and still is
Mood
So you only have 29.31 bucks? Homeless people have more then that 🤣
@Cony Budding not even gonna lie I wouldn’t even be surprised with how insane shit has gotten Man. I swear whatever alien is controlling and writing next weeks plot line are getting out of hand
Feel this
This isn’t a win. He can’t investigate them anymore, directly at least, they just took out one of their only “dangerous” investigators, the corrupt company won.
But it is a win for ruben and for the future if roblox wanted to do that to other youtubers like him it won't go so well because of ruben it was a absolute W I know he lost 150k but far less the 1.6 million
@@natruslayer5557 Nah, precedent is king. The ONLY way this would've benefitted the community is if he won legally. Then there would be legal precedence of wrongdoing. Private settlements mean absolutely nothing, legally.
But now hopefully there will be more investigators. He walked so others can run
@@zeropolicy7456 but thats not what its about i mean its a W because it brought alot more awareness to the peoples eyes about what roblox be doing
They didn't really "win" there are dozens of other youtubers who expose the dark parts of the website.
I have never been so happy to see the words “roblox” and “lost” in the same sentence
She acclimated perfectly to our gremlins, is so cute and lovely to see her hang out so much compared to her previous life, I do believe this is such better for her❤
Roblox was extremely desperate to get Ruben off their platform for years. So it wasn't really a loss for them.
true. i feel bad for ruben.
Yeah, and he had to pay 150K
This. This is why i think roblox got the last laugh. They might have been tarnished but this might go away after some time while ruben was a constant and persistent threat to their image, at least in their own community. The only way i will be able to see this as a win is if something actually happens to roblox like better protection for their users. Otherwise this would have been an expensive loss for no cause, which i really hope won't be the case.
@@vwerlg9954 There will most likely be a gofundme for this
Hey Retro, may i ask what's the movement behind Rubens exclusion from roblox means? I've never played roblox and have no idea how they operate as a platform.
The action of removing one of your content creators of your own platform seems never to be a positiv move, so by whom lies the problem?
(also, is this a unique case or will this be repeated?)
No matter who won the case, the lawyers are the real winners as always.
and bro thats their job like what are you trying to say with this comment 💀
@@natruslayer5557 Thats the point of this comment.
@@natruslayer5557 he’s trynna say how they win regardless of the outcome
@@natruslayer5557 They're saying that either way, the lawyers are the ones getting paid. Ruben was fucked over paying those fees, Roblox was fucked over losing the case, supposedly. Either way, lawyers got payed all that sweet, sweet cash lol
@@PrincessDerpy it's paid
I think the straw that broke the camel's back for Roblox, was when Ruben started posting videos criticizing Chinese internet censors and letting people who live under the censors know about the heinous actions of their government through roblox that they wouldn't have known otherwise.
This story actually got me playing Roblox again. Probably haven't played since like 2014 but I had fun before in the late 2000s
I’m not sure having to pay $150k was the dub we deserve ☹️
Well at least the Roblox team looks like a bunch of clowns now
@@V.IVRusty yeha honestly, the fact that people still play is insane.
lol because money is what matters here not the principles and morals
@@V.IVRusty roblox apologizing too TH-camr th-cam.com/video/uA1jKDMhf1Q/w-d-xo.html
@@V.IVRusty always have been nothing changed
What a world we live in when someone loses 150k on a completely unfounded lawsuit by a big company and it's considered a 'victory'
th-cam.com/video/UGhbaVK0FGM/w-d-xo.html.
Thank you for pointing this out, that's the bigger problem here
It’s a sad world we live in 😞
big corperations are gonna be the end of us
To be honest, not getting completely obliterated and dragged through the mud repeatedly in a lawsuit against billion dollar companies like Roblox through the sheer power of money in the first place in of itself is enough to partly be a “victory”
Thank you Reuben for your courage, and thank you penguin for sharing this important information.
I have been watching Ruben for 2 years now, knowing he won the case makes me happy but also knowing he had to pay 150k its fucking disgusting.
I read some of the accusations and its just full of bs.
Roblox as a game its alright but as a corporation its just disgusting, I’m so disappointed in them.
“Roblox set the stupid meter to wumbo” 😂
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Hey, what is a Minecraft youtuber doing here?
JK JK
a Mein Kampf youtuber…
@@seamus9821 yes
@@chalks mad cuz badddd jealous cuz you're not verified noob
"Roblox legal department really set the stupid meter to wumbo" is probably the greatest sentence I've ever heard
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ROBLOX'S RESPONSE TO LOSING!
@@highwaythruhell7882 roblox apologizing too TH-camr th-cam.com/video/uA1jKDMhf1Q/w-d-xo.html
youtube explaining why they sued him in the first place m.th-cam.com/video/X_8Nh5XfRw0/w-d-xo.html
Because of Charlie I think my vocabulary became larger.
I am so tired of these bots in the replies lol
I was stoked when I heard the news a couple days ago, but now that I've thought about it a bit, the end of this case is a little bittersweet. Ruben lost 150k, and all the dirt of Roblox's name right now will probably be forgotten in a year
I had forgot what I was going to check in TH-cam today until this video reminded me that I was supposed to check Ruben Sim's channel for any further updates from his first video
thanks penguin
I honestly don't see how Roblox "lost" in this situation, if I'm being honest. The lawsuit did exactly what it was supposed to do -- remove a muckraker from the platform and put him in a large amount of debt at the same time. The only thing they lost was their reputation -- and lets be honest, no corpo cares about that nowadays.
Wasn't the main thing Rubin was affecting their reputation?
@@seamussmyth1928 Even if Ruben hurts their rep now . I doubt this going to hurt Roblox in the long run.
They didn't necessarily lose but Rubin did win. He could've lost so much more.
@@TheGameTripleH97 unless something like this happens again and it's switched the other way around
yeah i dont see how this was a lose to them in any way shape or form
they silenced the guy, stopped him from being able to criticize them, gave him a big bill, and wont be punished for potentially lying nonstop just to screw him
yeah it was settled, which basically amounts to censorship, so censoring him is a loss to them? how?
Just hopping to Roblox field, only to see the progress of this case. Ruben won but in a cost of keeping Roblox circle running.
This wasnt something i dont think he could ever "win"
Well he tried his best and at least he didn't have to pay a massive fine.
I had a stroke reading this
@@reudaniel4776 if 150k isn't massive to you then jesus
@Poe Soul I mean, yeah, but if he could somehow win the actual case itself, it could've cause Roblox to just be outright shut down, or forced to have a complete overhaul of the staff, or whatever else. Winning in court would have been the far better victory, it just wasn't really likely that he would.
What people do or wont do for money... Thanks for bringing this up really! At the end of these 3 vids you made i picked up my phone and called my sister that has 2 kids that use Roblox.
And big thanks to Ruben Sim the legend that took a big blow for the better! Respect.
Honestly they got everything they wanted and minimized their losses. Ruben's been fined 150k for messing with big business, he's banned from their platform so he's out of their hair, and after his video they probably figured out that the reputation damage wasnt worth it. This was roblox making their best move, not conceding
America needs to adopt the British rule of attorney's fees where if you lose you have to pay for all the attorney's fee.
Riblox didn’t technically lose, they settled
No shoot them if there in the wrong
@@beanjjib1444 Jesus fucking Christ mate
@@keks7002 settled clearly in favor of Ruben and tarnished their reputation, so, no, they lost
settlements are different from losses
Wait, he just got bullied out of 150k and we're still calling it a victory? This is fucking outrageous
They forced him off their platform... thats what they wanted. Calling this a win is a joke. Now he wont make any more videos on the subject and it also discourages others from making the same kinds of videos.
@@xkd495 but on the positive side:
Like Charlie said, ruben got off easy with 150k because roblox is multi-billion dollar company. If roblox wanted to they could've just dragged the case on and on and make ruben pay for more and more legal fees but he got off easy instead.
- People are now aware of the shit roblox is doing on their platform. It'll surely send shockwaves throughout the roblox community and communities around it also, and roblox settled with ruben because they dont want it to prolonged any longer as the publicity around it is negative for roblox.
-boycott roblox
The fact that ruben won the case just reinforces the idea of ruben being on the right and roblox on the bad side.
it's the wins in other ways. it is unfortunate that ruben has to pay for legal fees and get removed permanently from roblox, but in result of this case - roblox essentially omitted that they were in the wrong and had to fold out of the case. so having a relatively small creator versing a mega billionaire corporation and making them dip out this early before the trials got messy is pretty huge.
@@justsomeguywholikesplaying3466 I'm a Roblox player and here what I want to say
Almost everybody in Roblox with the ability to think know that Roblox is shit
Even kids know about it
In the Roblox community almost everybody know that Roblox do bad shit.
Like how Roblox won't do anything to a person bringing income to Roblox unless they needs to or stop bringing them income
Like a DMCA
They will keep the person on the platform as long as possible
TH-camrs,developers who got exposed for the wrongs rarely get punished by Roblox.
Roblox make excuses up to keep THEM on the platform .
Now Ruben had been an enemy to Roblox since he expose NobleDragon(head of moderation)following a furry porn art account on fucking Twitter.
When the first time I see Roblox against someone I already thought that TH-camr would lose to such a big company but this really was unexpected.
You know I think this is why stopped seeing Roblox ads on TH-cam. This video reminded me of that.
No corporation of such size should be able to sue an average person for that amount. Unless it is something seriously damaging and wrong. Why should a single man pay $1.6M to a multi billion dollar company? It's so great that he won, but that's like a rich man making a homeless give up their clothes for getting too close to their fancy car.
Exactly unless the person they’re suing is rich, they’re going to end up homeless.
@UCmmJYjOmnSi5rxX9scraEFg Because thats enough debt for a lifetime? and again, they're a multi billion dollar company, so yes, they should pay for it
how would homeless clothing help a rich person buy a luxurious car
@@greenbuilderman3028 humiliation bruv
@@greenbuilderman3028
That's the thing. It doesn't. Roblox makes billions, they're billionaires who don't care about problems they cause. The entire lawsuit was founded on greed.
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ROBLOX'S RESPONSE TO LOSING!
Oh great another 100k person
Edit: *C R I N G E*
And now you make free vbucks videos, what a step up
Also stop fighting in the comments, its youtube, why are you fighting. This is pathetic.
@@highwaythruhell7882 roblox apologizing too TH-camr th-cam.com/video/uA1jKDMhf1Q/w-d-xo.html
@@Concraft I may not be 12 but at least I’m not cringe
The funniest part of the video is Charlie trying to hold back his laughter
roblox is like that one dude in trial who asked "why did you leave the burning house?"
"Because It is easier to burn alive if im away from the fire, duh, why would I leave the house if I didn't want to burn alive? I left the burning house because the fire couldnt harm me from the source"
Jesus… imagine going to court and getting sued by ROBLOX for things you didn’t do… I really do feel bad for Ruben Sim and hope he is ok.
@Sound City (PRAY FOR ME) No one will pray for you if you're doing this shit.
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@NickBalls tf
@@merkkenem fr man… it just shows how they care more about screwing some guy up than fixing actual serious problems on the platform..
In my opinion, Roblox knew he wasn't willing to give them 1.6m dollars or delete his social media, they just slapped him w a lawsuit so they could get him off the platform for good. Kind of sad because Ruben Sim did nothing wrong, he was just exposing them for their BS. Roblox is a fun platform, but when they do things like this it just shows that they don't care for their player base AT ALL.
i want to run to roblox hq and beat every employee in there i am so mad
What company actually cares? Not one they all just want money and good PR THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU NOBODY DOES
@@TheTGOAC the only good big company i can think of is fromsoftware
Its called a slapp lawsuit, and ruban may be able to do some Anti-SLAPP laws
This is exactly what I think. I think their goal was to get rid of one of their biggest criticizers... And they got their way. Sure- He got away from the legal bills; but the money wasn't actually what they were after.
I played roblox most of my childhood and I can say without a doubt that these problems have been prominent since back in 2008
Hearing all that I do about Roblox and thinking back to all the other kid-based platforms for online games.
Like Club penguin, Bin weevils and Toon Town, all those. I think I'm starting to see why they all closed down and shut up shop.
They were dying as a hero in our memories rather than resorting to the stuff we see Roblox now doing in order to stay afloat, alive and thriving. If being buried and having your platform go under is the alternative to all the abuse, gambling and danger the kids are being put in.
I think... It's worth saying goodbye to Roblox.
shouldn't we be more concerned that we just saw a corporation silence someone and steal 150k from em with no effort, all because he was telling us what was actually happening.
Corporations resemble Governments more by the decade
Well, the corps and govs currently hold ALL the cards. So what are we the people going to do about it? Keep bitchin online or actually force the change?
It might already be too late..
Capitalism is working as intended.
@@ananousous not capitalism, but alright.
@@Awfulfeature Nope capitalism. I don't agree with guy above you, but Roblox is a greedy, for profit company.
It's fucking disgusting how losing $150K is a "win" because of how we have let corporations buy the legal system
@「 Deadpoppin 」 not even america. any large corporation can abuse the legal system in most countries.
@「 Deadpoppin 」 Africa is indeed the worst when it comes to going against big companies.
thank u for speaking on injustices like this, your voice has a lot of power, and u keep it funny, thank u
i remember rubin was the only roblox youtuber i ever avidly watched just because his videos were literally so funny and genuinely well made. i had no idea he was in a lawsuit but i'm glad he won.
he lost 150k.
"Did you win"
Ruben sim: Yes.
"What did it cost?"
Ruben sim: Everything.
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nice fumo icon
"just 150k dollars, nothing much"
@@bro6069 I mean, who doesn't have 150k?
... Thats sarcasm btw
To be real, I’m glad the guy didn’t pay Roblox anything and that he wasn’t drained over time, but having to pay $150,000 is still absolutely horrifying. I have no idea what kind of revenue Ruben gets from his channel, but if I had to pay 150k I would be in debt 100 times over. Honestly, it wouldn’t be unfair if he asked for donations after taking a financial blow like that imo
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True tho Everyone is saying he won but it's still looking like a L to me.
@@SLYKINGACE not an L but not a W either
@@SLYKINGACE a 150k lose is better then losing 1.6 mil
as someone whos played roblox for years and being a fan of ruben, im so happy all these vile things roblox has done over the years are being exposed, I'm hoping that they step down and just get some new moderation for their devs and staff team.
When you go and read the settlement, it actually gives you the image that Ruben lost. Also about the 150k, the settlement reads "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a judgment in the amount of $150,000 is entered in favor of Plaintiff Roblox and against Defendant."
At least it isnt 1.6 mil
But i get your point
This is so rare, what a time to be alive. EDIT: Yes, Kyle John is my real name.
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@AbruhTheOfficalKing ikr
@AbruhTheOfficalKing yeah. Sick of em.
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I look exactly like deji
This brings me much joy.
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@SillySanta 😴
Im glad a greedy corporation lost
@Red 🧢 sad person
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He is the first person to actually survive terminations and roblox trying to silence him
im 19 and ive been playing roblox since 2012, its sad to see how far down roblox has gotten its just terrible
Ruben hasn't even released parts 2 and 3 yet and they already caved in. Ruben wins, flawless victory.
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well he had to pay 150k so...
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Fatality
@@mileshardin6906 you don't get lawyers for free lol
"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." - George R.R. Martin, A Clash of Kings
“[I’ll tear that treacherous tongue from your throat!]”
“Then you’ll finally have the truth in your grasp!”-Lukas, Fire Emblem: Shadows of Valentia
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This is truly a "WOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY!" moment.
Finally, 2022 has a good start
Wtf no, roblox did NOT lose this, they totally won. They cost Ruben 150k out of his pocket whether it was paid to them or not, and forced him off their platform. This is exactly what roblox wanted. They successfully scared off whistle blowers just by writing some words on a doc. They will no doubt do this to anyone else that tries to speak out as well.
And while I agree the bad publicity that roblox is getting rn is pretty bad for their image, it really won't be the end of them. How many companies do you know that do stupid shit and still carry on. Remember when nestle was being shat on for stealing water from african locals? Yeah they're still doing fine. The parents that let their children run free on this website, credit card in hand, will likely not do anything after this boils down. RIP Mr. Ruben, yet another victim.
agreed
He never went on Roblox he was just exposing what the company did he didn’t play the game
@@cokeman7201 his entire channel is based on roblox
@@cokeman7201 mate look at his vids, it's all based on roblox
What about reputation? I think this is why everyone is looking at roblox right now because of fucked up shit involving kids. Its the whole player base. Just wait until celebrities add to this when a random journalist asks them the roblox question. People will dive in for the stories and better yet remind everyone what fucked up shit they do. Why? Because kids. There are kids everywhere in the entire globe. African water is not everywhere.
I hope he releases the other parts and more parents can be made aware, the lack of care this corporation has towards protecting kids is genuinely horrifying
knowing mine they'd absolutely harass me to death about it :/
me too i wonder what else is roblox hiding
Shame he can't.
@@hm-vw3dvd Actually, he probably can. From what I understand, he is not allowed to be on the PLATFORM or talk about the PLATFORM. Those videos are about the legal document, so he can still rip apart the document, like it matters.
*expecting parents to take the collective consciousness of 5 seconds to use content blockers for children*
It's funny how it only took ONE VIDEO to take them to back down
At this point, I don't know what roblox is doing anymore.
This doesn't sound like a victory. It was a scare tactic, and it worked. You think anyone is going to want to delve deep into this issue after this? And what does Ruben have to show for it? This was a Pyrrhic victory AT BEST. Companies do this fake legal threat thing to make examples out of people all the time.
it’s not even a scare tactic, it’s just roblox being stupid. ROBLOX is the scared one, one piece of proof came out and they instantly gave in, i’d say this makes roblox an easier target, someone could sue roblox for doing nothing against child predators, and roblox will instantly give in once the most damming piece of evidence pops out. Roblox is so scared of their image being broken it might as well be a phobia
@@mr.pyromaniac628 its a tactic. you pull out something that seems big and ridiculous, then settle for something that seems small in comparison, but was your true aim all along. They got him off their platform and set him back 150k. Roblox won.
Ruben was just one of the many people talking about the grooming and stock market, but Roblox denied any of it, despite the stock market thing being publicly visible to all. as for shady deals or happenings, Roblox has already stated that, if its not happening directly on their platform then it isn't their problem. where does the pedophilic behavior take place? Not on Roblox. therefore "not Roblox's problem" despite the offenders being very public about what they do.
Roblox does not care as long as the cash keeps flowing.
@@mr.pyromaniac628 Insantly gave in too... Making him pay 150k while suffering basically nothing themselves? Wow what an awesome victory we won guys! Now anyone who fights with roblox will think they're forced to pay only 150k if they're lucky. Huh I wonder who really wins out in this situation in terms of setting a precedent. I wonder if anyone else will want to pursue them when this is what a "victory" for an accuser is.
If anything this wasn’t even a Pyrrhic victory, if anything Rueben can counter sue using California’s anti-SLAPP laws since what roblox did is a classic example of a SLAPP suit.
@@atagosraven2267 after paying 150k. I seriously doubt ruben will sue anything in his life time.
This man literally won against a Multi Billion Dollar Company that gave him a lawsuit this is a Biggest W in gaming History.
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Multi billionaire*
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar shut
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Not multi-million, multi-billion. They're literally worth over 45 billion USD, which is actually insane
"It makes no sense" It makes perfect sense. They are doing it for money.
as a person that used to play roblox all day, roblox fuckin sucks
America: We have freedom of speech.
Also America: Criticizing a company can cost you 150.000 dollars in legal fees.
I'm sorry. But, seeing this as a win is a little too optimistic in my book.
It’s seen as a win because of how rich they are and how long they could just keep bleeding money out of him because of the money they have. It’s pretty obvious looking at the accusations of him that they couldn’t have ever won the case.
It's a win overall While Ruben did lose a lot. Roblox's reputation had been badly tarnished, with many people now learning of Roblox's missdeads and incompetence. I think this case will give others the push they need to speak up against Roblox.
@@Emeren05 Their reputation will be fine in a week.
@@jazzman7842 yeah. kids dont care about this stuff
well their stock drop like 25% eversince this started so...
I'm really surprised for how good ruben managed to handle this case, massive L for roblox
*charlie is the best and even ruben sim!!*
Im sorry for these replies
@@PicklEmpire its fine ;)
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roblox actually won here, their goal was to just remove ruben from the platform legally
thats like the sun vs mars
I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if this dude ends up counter sueing. He would have an easy defamation case that could help offset his legal fees.
He's probably out of money to even do it.
This is called a SLAPP suit. It’s a way to affect a person monetarily as well as emotionally when wrongdoing by a big company is brought to light. It’s an intimidation technique in the legal world. So if Charlie and other big TH-camrs hadn’t brought attention to this, Roblox would have been the winner in this situation. The real winner in this situation now is neither Ruben nor Roblox; it is the people who now know to avoid Roblox.
It seems like a form of censorship. It is easy to see how easy winning a case is if you got the money. Look at the how easy celebrities get off from felonies. It’s just a shame it’s like court is a pay to win game. But isn’t doing this slander. I’m sure that’s illegal.
Charlie wasn't the only person talking about this. Lots of big TH-camrs and media outlets were making comments about this. And tbfh, if anyone was paying attention to the things people like Ruben were saying for YEARS then everyone would have seen this coming.
I think it’s called SLAPP, certain US states have anti slapp laws but some don’t, and I’m sure roblox could choose to sue the roblox TH-camr in any state they want to get the state laws they want.
John Oliver and Legal Eagle both have great videos on SLAPP stuff.
@@OddMeterMusic yup, it is called SLAPP suits 😅 John Oliver is how I know about them even though my dad is an attorney who specializes in protecting whistleblowers like people who are discriminated against for a disability that’s protected under federal law by an employer, so kind of like the attorney that represented Ruben.
yes
This isn't a loss for Roblox. They got him off their platform, which is what they wanted.
True, but he did fulfill what his initial goal was, which was calling out the bullshit on the platform and showing it to people, and it actually worked, given how far their stocks plummeted after.
win-win situation?
@@rhomadude7938 Nope, win-loss.
Ruben avoided the nuke that was having to pay the $1.6M and delete his channel, but he still had to bite a heavy bullet with the $150k legal fees and the fact he is now legally banned from playing Roblox or even getting NEAR a Roblox-related event ever again. Now that the tyrants on their thrones got rid of Ruben, it's a heavy blow to people trying to expose predators and criminals on Roblox considering how popular Ruben was with bringing attention to those types of people.
Roblox is just stomping on its own feet by wiping Ruben off the face of their platform.
@@pyregg1572 They're not actually because ruben isn't even a major loss at all, there will always be more like him, exposing bad people on the platorm, minus his edgy stupid content. People who will actuallly contribute to making roblox a better place. So yeah, he won't be missed, rip and shred bozo.
@@traionjones711 You're the bozo here if you're gonna have a hate boner just because his "edgy stupid content" made it spike up past 6 inches.
Betchu within the settlement, he was told not submit parts 2 and 3. We'll never see them.
3:45 you can open tweets in a new tab if not logged in.
Ruben could definitely counter-sue for money. I mean, they literally made stuff up about him.
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a defamation/slander lawsuit, right?
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@@rocksinmys0cks yep.
why is this reply section half bots?
This is kind of a good thing, that roblox lost, but uh. It's almost as if large corporations with shitloads of money have greater legal power than actual individual people. And that… should not be a thing. 150K is outrageous. Paying that amount of money could put someone into poverty.
It’s a very common practice for large companies who can afford to run these court proceedings for years to keep appealing until the individual they’re up against literally can’t afford to keep going. It’s disgusting and a major failure on the legal systems around the world who allow this to happen.
@@dragonscales2758 why is this even a thing? in these situations the individual should be protected from going possibly insolvent
And worse, it wasn't because of anything actually big. They overblew a false situation, made up false accusations, and made a person with almost a MILLION SUBSCRIBERS of a fanbase waste 150k USD because some grown men at a game platform headquarters had a temper tantrum. Ruben will survive this, but how about the average person? What is stopping Roblox from going after us next? Most of us here won't survive losing 150k in attorney fees, and god forbid 1.6 million.
America exists to serve the rich. That's why it's allowed.
I remmeber that I watched ruben sim a while back, itwas genuinely funny videos and what not but i haven't seen him in like at least a year, seeing his name pop up now and in this context is actually baffling. I genuinely remember him just making roblox trolling videos on hasbin hotel and what not but jesus this just feels surreal
Ruben is the main character.