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  • @endeavor1299
    @endeavor1299 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    They are Aqua rather than Rock for a similar reason Sprigguns should have been Pyro rather than Machine: the latter aren't actually robots or the like but soot spirit, these aren't just natural rocks but living organisms and soil infected by a rot so you might see them as the creatures from Tribe-infecting Virus. So it makes more sense, and it also opens to more original builds rather than just being a new engine for Rock Pile imo.

    • @YukiFubuki.
      @YukiFubuki. ปีที่แล้ว +15

      hoping this leads to some support cards for aqua typing that doesnt necessarily tie into WATER too as there isnt a whole lot of generic aqua support for modern yugioh in general outside of supreme sea mare

    • @TinPrince
      @TinPrince ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@YukiFubuki. I think it's unlikely given that tear exists.

    • @YukiFubuki.
      @YukiFubuki. ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TinPrince maybe support the type in a way that isnt accessible to tear like it revolves around only high lvl aqua types or is aqua locked, not like tearlaments kashtira is an aqua type and this avoids giving frog more support too
      just suggestions anyway, tear really shouldnt be holding back an entire monster type

    • @TinPrince
      @TinPrince ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YukiFubuki. As an icejade player I would love to get some Aqua S/T support that is actually good, I had hoped there would be at least 1 water in this archetype for some synergy.

    • @endeavor1299
      @endeavor1299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TinPrince same

  • @Dragonecro0987
    @Dragonecro0987 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I feel like as things stand, Tistina faces the same problems that most every World Premiere theme hits on its debut; the fact the theme is limited to 7 cards so you can't get much out of them unless you experiment with them and use them as an engine more than their own deck. From what I have seen, the cards work best currently taking advantage of how Sentinel and Hound are able to constantly recur themselves as free Link materials for a combo build, the popular case I've seen being a Scareclaw + Kashtira variant that is able to get out a board of Tri-Heart, I:P. and two other monsters to I:P into either Apo or Underworld Goddess if the opponent has a monster and all that off of just 2 cards (Sentinel and Triviskarma).
    As for what the theme does on paper, I like the idea of a control theme that functions as Daruma Cannon on Legs but Better and Tistina is amazing in that regard as well as from a lore perspective when you consider its like spreading their mutation onto others and sealing them in crystals. However as mentioned above, this is standard faire for World Prem themes and we will have to wait until AGOV drops in October before we see where Konami will evolve this strategy. I myself can personally see more lower levels that represent other lifeforms absorbed into the archetype and maybe even an awoken version of the Crystal God as either an ED monster or something else, as well as more backrow to help them out. But only time shall tell.

    • @thezestylime0989
      @thezestylime0989 ปีที่แล้ว

      one key difference between these and daruma, they cannot out unaffected monsters.

  • @MrSpako13
    @MrSpako13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Second wave is going to bring out more ways to cheat out the big guys and general good stuff but ocg is going to give them a busted Lvl4 or below light monster that idk ss itself from hand by sending one tristina from deck to the grave... as cost

  • @skuamato7886
    @skuamato7886 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Just realized: The archetype is quite literally 1 circular away from being good

    • @chicabu67
      @chicabu67 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What isn't?

    • @olliezoop
      @olliezoop ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We should describe every bad archetype in terms of how many metric Circulars away it is from being playable

    • @ThatOneWeirdFlex
      @ThatOneWeirdFlex 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn't get it

  • @Ragnarok540
    @Ragnarok540 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Imagine they give it a level 1 normal monster and the link one that uses it to do the search :)

    • @colinbrown74
      @colinbrown74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      INB4 Link 1 LIGHT Tistina

    • @johnnywilson3071
      @johnnywilson3071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better yet a level 1 fire so they can be abused with Diabellestar.

  • @ObeliskTGS
    @ObeliskTGS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me these things look more like Ice Crystals than rock crystals and Ice based monsters tend to fall under Aqua typing.

  • @shreenta
    @shreenta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are a few decent rank 10 monsters you could play depending on how easy it is to get several level 10 tistina on the board in one turn. Robot galaxy destroyer is feather duster on legs (but requires 3 level 10), Super dora can protect your crystal god and ravenous tarantula pairs well with hound so as you attack directly your tistina mosters get bigger, plus it punishes on your opponents next turn if they survive.

  • @psychocards5781
    @psychocards5781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This decks obviously going to get way more support in sets to come, so I'm probably gonna get them just in case something promising comes out of it.
    I think a solid support for them (other than more ways to get a bit of board presence) would be a Mind Meld-type thing that changes an opponent's effect to "destroy one face-up Tistina card your opponent controls (you choose)" so you can force them to pop the God, field spell, continuous trap etc.

  • @darthmitsurugi
    @darthmitsurugi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd say hoard them and see what comes out in the next wave of support, could be some other ways to cheat out the big boss or have some other cool effects

    • @piropie6618
      @piropie6618 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rock Mountain moment

    • @PRivera32
      @PRivera32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's exactly what ima do

    • @ThatOneWeirdFlex
      @ThatOneWeirdFlex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There wasn't :)

    • @darthmitsurugi
      @darthmitsurugi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatOneWeirdFlex RIP

  • @idkdontask7142
    @idkdontask7142 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another deck that auto loses to shifter, I like the fact konami made so many decks that are graveyard reliant over the years only to make a hand trap macro cosmos that shuts them down immediately

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At the time shifter was printed there were 0 good decks that could play it tbf

    • @christianacosta4846
      @christianacosta4846 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Better idea we jus ban shifter and cook kash so fun is allowed

    • @idkdontask7142
      @idkdontask7142 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@christianacosta4846 this

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christianacosta4846 idk about banning shifter but fr Kash needs to go

    • @idkdontask7142
      @idkdontask7142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnickfanaccount3492 shifter makes 90% of all of the game's decks unable to play, even worse is that they limited gamma so you can't even out it.

  • @francescolofaro8258
    @francescolofaro8258 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Signs of tistina is kinda decent with I:P.
    However, if you need a light tistina, you just play random engine as extender to get to reprodocus.

  • @heulg.darian2536
    @heulg.darian2536 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    New archetype looks really co..
    Ghostrick support.
    Sorry what?
    GHOSTRICK SUPPORT LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    • @NotNotKris
      @NotNotKris ปีที่แล้ว

      Nods aggressively
      Glad I'm not the only one who thought of the immidiately. Found the only other ghosttrick player :')

  • @jimmayorga1863
    @jimmayorga1863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tistina Runick is actually quite interesting. Has pretty good grind, and it basically gives you free ways to start Tistina plays with popping a set runick quick play with Sentinel, or booking down a Hugin to search and later pop it with Sentinel to search again (and recycle Hugin now that we are at it). Kinda easy to set up both Crystal God and Demigod. Main problem is that it is really match up dependant. The Book of Moon effect is powerful, really powerful, against certain decks, while it isnt as useful against others, specifically stuff like Branded or Floo.

  • @narfd.8837
    @narfd.8837 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tistina right now has an identity crisis where it's best effects (including almost all ways to summon their boss monster) want you to go first, but they lack resilience against everything under the sun and their Demigod falls to almost any type of disruption as it's summon is tied to a search as well. Sure, Book of Eclipse supported with a dozen boardbreakers makes that work, but the deck itself has no inherent, non-opponent reliant way to get to any meaningful board yet. If your opponent just sits a single monster, that can already be enough to win. The next wave of support will have to do a lot to make the deck able to sustain it's own gameplan. Or to even have a coherent gameplan at all for that matter.

    • @Grimjr7
      @Grimjr7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The deck wants to go second. There is a all you monster can attack directly card. All the bonuses come from going second.

    • @narfd.8837
      @narfd.8837 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Grimjr7 I agree, which does not change the fact that you don't get those effects if you go up against a board with even just a few disruptions. Your field spell has to be destroyed in the field zone to activate, so negating it's activation gets rid of that without consequences.
      And Attacking directly is cute, but how are you supposed to get to your setup through disruptions? How are you supposed to get Tistina itself out if your opponent has as much as a single quick effect destruction?
      The deck cannot go second at all right now and it would almost need a miracle for the second wave to get it to that point.

  • @SWAN021
    @SWAN021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tistina aka beyond the great ice wall deck interesting archetype

  • @thepacspam9865
    @thepacspam9865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What this deck needs is a starter that searches a "Tistina" Spell/Trap (so you can add breath) while also having an effect when it is destroyed (so it is triggered by breath or sentinel). If it is a light all the better

    • @Grimjr7
      @Grimjr7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The demigod plus any other in archetype card other than the trap or the boss is the starter.

  • @cesarmarincolquichagua9396
    @cesarmarincolquichagua9396 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    honestly, since kozmo there's no relevant tcg-exclusive archetype, spyral was meta because of ocg support, it never was when it was exclusive.

    • @alial-kateeb5267
      @alial-kateeb5267 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Do ppl keep forgetting danger?

    • @9288Savior
      @9288Savior ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like *Kozmo* could use more support as they don't seem to be doing anything right now as a deck competitively *{::>_

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you trying to say that danger was not relevant

    • @Ragnarok540
      @Ragnarok540 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@9288Savior Maybe a link 1 or 2 Yoda, but no idea of the effect it should have, never played the deck.

    • @flashghost
      @flashghost ปีที่แล้ว

      And it was playable with only 5 cards, like how do they keep making the same mistake or even more, give up after only 2 waves of support

  • @xxzer0xx914
    @xxzer0xx914 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess you could use Signs of the Tistina as Link Material with I:P Masquerena to go for S:P Little Night or Knightmare Unicorn and get rid of 2 Monsters instead of one, kind of like in Unchained when you go Unchained Soul of Rage into Knightmare Unicorn, maybe a One-Off for that reason but we'll see.

  • @RegiRuler
    @RegiRuler ปีที่แล้ว

    High Key I think the deck has a ton of potential if they can get a non-chokeable (non-opt) way of summoning crystal god. The consistency is already much better than most TCG exclusive decks by this point (3 cards that search, not including Domain), the overwhelming issue is something like Ash or Borrelsavage on Baatistina.
    Deck is also somewhat hurt by the fact that it's fairly on its own in terms of accessing the engine, unless you play something extremely heavy to search domain or something. Aqua is actually a pretty crappy type despite what Tear would have you believe.
    In spite of this, I very much want to play this, and is honestly the most excited I've been about paper in a while because the first wave core is probably gonna be no more than $20, and you don't need much else to play it besides going second staples.

  • @WatchForPinkRose
    @WatchForPinkRose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So we have a fire lvl 4. We have a wind lvl 3. So there might come a lvl 1 and 2. And they will have the attributes earth and water. So maybe water aqua lvl 2 that can special summon itself from hand or field....... wouldnt that be nice? :)

    • @Slither.Wing.
      @Slither.Wing. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hound is a earth not fire

  • @yoimiyasimping1054
    @yoimiyasimping1054 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can already see the bird popping suliek in tear xD

  • @blaze3422160
    @blaze3422160 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dunno what I’m going to do with these cards, but imma do something. These have me interested, even if it’s just something splashed into another engine currently

  • @dunslax3
    @dunslax3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tistinas suck as an archetype but you could use them as a bricky engine. Run 3 field spell, 1 tistina god, 1 hound. If you draw the field spell you get a free daruma cannon+direct attack going second, but you have to run 2 bricks.

  • @giantstrawman543
    @giantstrawman543 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so interested in what their thought process with the trap was. It's a trap monster, so you can flip it back face-down with those effects, but there's no point in doing that.

  • @flashghost
    @flashghost ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone remember Materiactor? Which was supposed to be something and it died

    • @rubiks503
      @rubiks503 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, we got a (useless) spell since release

  • @nael_luna
    @nael_luna ปีที่แล้ว

    I am already in love with these cards, luckily for now they don't cost much, gonna buy them after the sneak peek ^^

  • @billbechteljr7088
    @billbechteljr7088 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn’t setting signs of the tistina while it’s a monster count as it leaving the field?

  • @dancemademyday3686
    @dancemademyday3686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anybody else waiting for world legacy arctype support ?

  • @yugipapi
    @yugipapi ปีที่แล้ว

    Tistina Meow-meow-mu incoming

  • @gillesbelanger5213
    @gillesbelanger5213 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can special summon the lvl 10 with a fistons CARD

  • @Fencer_Nowa
    @Fencer_Nowa ปีที่แล้ว

    They are so just underwhelming but have a cool idea they are going for

  • @MaxxD86
    @MaxxD86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps a link 1 Light Tistina that searches would help

  • @plux6623
    @plux6623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can God Slime send the trap to the grave to summon itself and to pop the monster targeted by the trap?

  • @carlosmiguel1105
    @carlosmiguel1105 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Breath of tistina can flip flood gates back down.

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why are you lying

    • @JevonSwallow
      @JevonSwallow ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It only flips monsters. But how could you have known that, you’re a yugioh player (and therefore can’t read)

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JevonSwallow idk I'm a Yu-Gi-Oh player and I can read I think it's just this guy

    • @sushipbestdeck8995
      @sushipbestdeck8995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it can't, but you can infinitely set conquistador back to the backrow😏

  • @Killing_Edge
    @Killing_Edge ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear every time I hear tistina my brain says tostada

    • @kuroneko687
      @kuroneko687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear kurisutina

  • @CrazyAce777777
    @CrazyAce777777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gives me Icejade vibes

  • @kaifeed5214
    @kaifeed5214 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Design look like necrozma pokemon😅😅

  • @alfiexnakama4678
    @alfiexnakama4678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for Infernoid support cards 😢

  • @ratiuvictor9533
    @ratiuvictor9533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait this is not Adamancipator support?

  • @huggelion
    @huggelion ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone have a good idea on how to give your opp 3 tokens

  • @CrisisCore62
    @CrisisCore62 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tearlament's pets 😅

  • @Y0kAiS
    @Y0kAiS ปีที่แล้ว

    They probably ice creatures

  • @impactfulsimp
    @impactfulsimp ปีที่แล้ว

    They honestly seem a little to fair compared to other recent architects

  • @DrDrao
    @DrDrao ปีที่แล้ว

    Signs of the tistina is a worse widespread dud, 15 years too late.

  • @davecatss6652
    @davecatss6652 ปีที่แล้ว

    josh misreading the trap.......

  • @V4Lanz
    @V4Lanz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    midstina needs another wave of support and you know that 🤝

  • @eonflutehza131
    @eonflutehza131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using them in numeron would be funny. Easy tribute fodder

  • @josephreis2915
    @josephreis2915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched this in the mod, archetype feels so disjointed.
    A link 1 would be broken

  • @Senshi00
    @Senshi00 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the point of tcg exlusive archetypes`

    • @kamenlobster
      @kamenlobster ปีที่แล้ว

      To further separate them self from the ocq and money

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kamenlobster But isn't it the same company?
      Why would they want such separation?

  • @ProbablyLast
    @ProbablyLast ปีที่แล้ว

    So you can book all of their monsters, but only one guy can directly attack? Eh.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All tistina can attack directly while your opponent control face-down monster

    • @RegiRuler
      @RegiRuler ปีที่แล้ว

      The game plan ideal is that you attack directly with each monster then make Gustav.

  • @tanjakailer5459
    @tanjakailer5459 ปีที่แล้ว

    They dont go over 2000atk

  • @eu4um
    @eu4um ปีที่แล้ว

    This is definitely one of the strongest going second decks of all time.

    • @johnnycapote9817
      @johnnycapote9817 ปีที่แล้ว

      They cosmic your field spell and you lose

  • @backjack5407
    @backjack5407 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daruma gets rid of towers tho

  • @joeymayson8279
    @joeymayson8279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tear supports lesgo

  • @71nxy47
    @71nxy47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wtf 😳 gold pride isn’t getting any more support ????
    Also why does Konami TCG always make ass cards. Only good ones they every did were burning abyss, dangers and spirals

    • @BasicLee_
      @BasicLee_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kozmo, Subterror, and Kaijus would like to have a word with you

    • @NickyCrunch
      @NickyCrunch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TCG exclusives tend to get two waves of support, and then another card or two a few sets later

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would gold pride get support right now? Every tcg exclusive archetype gets exactly 2 waves of support simultaneously in sets until it gets released in the ocg at which time it can then get extra (typically 1 card) support. Why would you think gp would be any different?

    • @johnnickfanaccount3492
      @johnnickfanaccount3492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​​​@@BasicLee_dangers too, and ba and spyral

    • @BasicLee_
      @BasicLee_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnnickfanaccount3492 he had listed those

  • @durpasaur3052
    @durpasaur3052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ruling at 15:20 is why i hate this game and pretend to like it

  • @bonobro3329
    @bonobro3329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pispina more like

  • @b_a_nned
    @b_a_nned ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS ARCHETYPE IS NOT GOOD ‼️🔥🔥 THEY WERE NOT COOKIN DO *NOT* HEAR THEM OUT 🔥🔥🥶🥵🥵

  • @greysunomain
    @greysunomain ปีที่แล้ว

    Isnt the symbol light tho. I really cant see aqua anywhere

    • @e-tan3911
      @e-tan3911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aqua is the type, light is the attribute.

    • @greysunomain
      @greysunomain ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e-tan3911 ty

  • @herbertcharlesbrown1949
    @herbertcharlesbrown1949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aqua monsters... I hope there is potential synergy with Tearlaments

  • @EMPCraft
    @EMPCraft ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the worst archetype since war rock. And even they are way better.

  • @_GLObot
    @_GLObot ปีที่แล้ว

    This archetype is the most boring, dull thing Konami have made in a long while.

  • @johnnycapote9817
    @johnnycapote9817 ปีที่แล้ว

    These cards are trash, ppl have cosmic in thier deck and negates on board. The field spell will never go off,banish it and the deck loses

  • @nonyabusiness9682
    @nonyabusiness9682 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feel like shit just wanted more ghoti 🥲