I still don't understand a lot of that book but I appreciate you doing this so I could try again. Lol. I did get the part tho with someone trying to run away from their belief because you need faith and belief together.
Oooh yes that is DEEP! "You need faith and belief together" hahaha I really didn't get Wise Blood the first time, but on reread it made so much more sense 😂😂 Thanks Penny ❤
Penny, I love what you said about needing both faith and belief together. You are so right because belief is just believing in something, but not necessarily having trust. Applying this to God, one can have belief in believing that God exists, but not having faith in Him meaning not putting his/her trust in God.
I have read a couple short stories by Flannery O'Connor, but I had never heard of this book by her until I saw another video of yours on the O' Connor readathon. I wasn't planning to read it any time soon, but after your analysis, I am so intrigued! I can't wait to read it. I'm so interested especially in the parts where you said one of the characters blinds himself. It reminded me of the ancient Greek tragedy Oedipus Rex, where Oedipus blinds himself. Also, in ancient Greek classics, Teiresias the old man who had better vision than anyone else in that he could see not only the future, but also the past and the present with clear wisdom was blind. Blindness in ancient Greek literature is often a characteristic of wisdom and divine prophetic seeing or as in the case of Oedipus not just a punishment but also a sign that when he had his physical vision, he really couldn't see since he missed recognizing the tragic events that were about to happen in his life, that is seeing with his eyes, but being unable to recognize his own father and mother and unknowingly killing his father and marrying his mother.
WOW! I think, just based on the analysis in your comment, that you will get a lot of Wise Blood 😍 Thank you so much for talking about the theme of eyesight throughout literature. I'm sure O'Connor was familiar with Oedipus and a lot of Grecian drama.
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace Thank you for your channel, and for making me see Flannery O'Connor with different eyes. She has never been my favorite, but I also don't dislike her either. For me O'Connor and Hemingway have one thing in common: For some reason, for each one of these two authors, I have to be in a very particular mood to read them and like them. The same story I might think it's just Ok at one time, the same story I might think is fantastic if I read it when I feel I'm in the mood to read that particular author. I have never seen someone so passionate as you are about Flannery's work and some of that energy has been transfered to me, and I'm very intrigued to read more of her and more carefully.
I loved this video! It was fun to walk through your notes and tabs page by page, especially when the book is so fresh in my mind. We may have discussed it on the live, but I think Enoch’s “wise blood” is simply his instincts. He waits and listens for it to tell him what to do. Reminds me of how we either follow our sinful urges or the leading of the Holy Spirit. Based on Hazel’s last words, do you think he actually found redemption? Una, Noah and I were talking about that after the live, because he could have, but by continuing to physically punish himself for sin, it appears that he still isn’t receiving God’s grace and forgiveness, though I do think he makes progress towards self-awareness and acceptance of the truth. His physical blindness seems to enable him to see better spiritually.
❤️ Thank you for watching it 😂 I definitely did not mean for it to be this long LOL! I think it's possible that he found redemption, but Flannery never tells us and I think that's on purpose. She leaves it up to the reader to decide whether or not to respond to God's call on their life.
“He had learned enough to hate the destruction that had to come and not all that was going to be destroyed.” . . . please do a review of "The Violent Bear it Away"...
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace I haven't read the book as I mentioned above, but I was thinking: First, I thought of the expression we have in Greece "azur blood" said sarcastically to express the old world belief that royals have different in a way type of blood than common people in a way that means they are born royals/aristocrats, not made. Then, I also thought that since you were saying on the video that the character keeps saying that he is clean by himself, he doesn't need to believe in anything, maybe in the book it could mean something as in the idea that the character believes he is inherently wise/clean, his blood is inherently clean, so he doesn't need Jesus blood to cleanse him or give him any different wisdom than the one he has on his own. Ok. I don't know what I'm saying... Is it possibly a phrase of irony or sarcasm invented by Flannery O'Connor against the character?
That was very enjoyable, illuminating, amusing about a very affecting book, i couldnt get into the book until I watched the John Huston film, you get better the character of the people from the film if you are not from there, complements it very well
It was my second time through, and I still didn't like it. I understand what she was doing, I just don't want to be a part of it. I do love her nonfiction. I love her pithy sense of humor in her comics. I even adore much of her life story as told by others of the faith. Some of her short stories I can get behind. As you said, though, I don't think I was her target audience.
@gordonwilson2533 She created comics, recorded a prayer journal, and wrote book reviews, letters, and essays. I've read and would recommend her prayer journal, collected letters (The Habit of Being), and the essays in the collection "Mystery and Manners."
I listened to it. I had to quit listening to it half way through, because there was just an insane amount of bad language and over all grossness. I get the meaning of it after watching the video review you guys all did. I think I am just not a Flannery fan. I read a few of her short stories which are better, but I just did not love. I like dostoyevsky way more
I still don't understand a lot of that book but I appreciate you doing this so I could try again. Lol.
I did get the part tho with someone trying to run away from their belief because you need faith and belief together.
Oooh yes that is DEEP! "You need faith and belief together"
hahaha I really didn't get Wise Blood the first time, but on reread it made so much more sense 😂😂
Thanks Penny ❤
Penny, I love what you said about needing both faith and belief together. You are so right because belief is just believing in something, but not necessarily having trust. Applying this to God, one can have belief in believing that God exists, but not having faith in Him meaning not putting his/her trust in God.
This was so helpful, thank you so much for taking your time to share your notes with us. Your a real one!
Aww thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 🥹
I have read a couple short stories by Flannery O'Connor, but I had never heard of this book by her until I saw another video of yours on the O' Connor readathon. I wasn't planning to read it any time soon, but after your analysis, I am so intrigued! I can't wait to read it. I'm so interested especially in the parts where you said one of the characters blinds himself. It reminded me of the ancient Greek tragedy Oedipus Rex, where Oedipus blinds himself. Also, in ancient Greek classics, Teiresias the old man who had better vision than anyone else in that he could see not only the future, but also the past and the present with clear wisdom was blind. Blindness in ancient Greek literature is often a characteristic of wisdom and divine prophetic seeing or as in the case of Oedipus not just a punishment but also a sign that when he had his physical vision, he really couldn't see since he missed recognizing the tragic events that were about to happen in his life, that is seeing with his eyes, but being unable to recognize his own father and mother and unknowingly killing his father and marrying his mother.
WOW! I think, just based on the analysis in your comment, that you will get a lot of Wise Blood 😍 Thank you so much for talking about the theme of eyesight throughout literature. I'm sure O'Connor was familiar with Oedipus and a lot of Grecian drama.
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace Thank you for your channel, and for making me see Flannery O'Connor with different eyes. She has never been my favorite, but I also don't dislike her either. For me O'Connor and Hemingway have one thing in common: For some reason, for each one of these two authors, I have to be in a very particular mood to read them and like them. The same story I might think it's just Ok at one time, the same story I might think is fantastic if I read it when I feel I'm in the mood to read that particular author. I have never seen someone so passionate as you are about Flannery's work and some of that energy has been transfered to me, and I'm very intrigued to read more of her and more carefully.
I loved this video! It was fun to walk through your notes and tabs page by page, especially when the book is so fresh in my mind.
We may have discussed it on the live, but I think Enoch’s “wise blood” is simply his instincts. He waits and listens for it to tell him what to do. Reminds me of how we either follow our sinful urges or the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Based on Hazel’s last words, do you think he actually found redemption? Una, Noah and I were talking about that after the live, because he could have, but by continuing to physically punish himself for sin, it appears that he still isn’t receiving God’s grace and forgiveness, though I do think he makes progress towards self-awareness and acceptance of the truth. His physical blindness seems to enable him to see better spiritually.
❤️ Thank you for watching it 😂 I definitely did not mean for it to be this long LOL!
I think it's possible that he found redemption, but Flannery never tells us and I think that's on purpose. She leaves it up to the reader to decide whether or not to respond to God's call on their life.
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace ooo, I love that answer!
“He had learned enough to hate the destruction that had to come and not all that was going to be destroyed.”
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please do a review of "The Violent Bear it Away"...
Wise Blood isn't any Southern idiom/term I've ever heard and I'm born and bred in the South.
Huh! I am SO CONFUSED about it! 🤣 Maybe we'll get lucky and someone else will know 🤣🤣
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace I haven't read the book as I mentioned above, but I was thinking: First, I thought of the expression we have in Greece "azur blood" said sarcastically to express the old world belief that royals have different in a way type of blood than common people in a way that means they are born royals/aristocrats, not made. Then, I also thought that since you were saying on the video that the character keeps saying that he is clean by himself, he doesn't need to believe in anything, maybe in the book it could mean something as in the idea that the character believes he is inherently wise/clean, his blood is inherently clean, so he doesn't need Jesus blood to cleanse him or give him any different wisdom than the one he has on his own. Ok. I don't know what I'm saying... Is it possibly a phrase of irony or sarcasm invented by Flannery O'Connor against the character?
I enjoyed this even though I haven’t read the book.
Aww, thank you so much for the support, Sara!! 🥰
That was very enjoyable, illuminating, amusing about a very affecting book, i couldnt get into the book until I watched the John Huston film, you get better the character of the people from the film if you are not from there, complements it very well
interesting connection the with Dostoyevsky, i think Flannery is as strong an author, need to read the idiot again
I'm so glad to hear that you enjoyed the video (AND the book, AND the film)!! Thank you for leaving your thoughts.
It was my second time through, and I still didn't like it. I understand what she was doing, I just don't want to be a part of it.
I do love her nonfiction. I love her pithy sense of humor in her comics. I even adore much of her life story as told by others of the faith. Some of her short stories I can get behind.
As you said, though, I don't think I was her target audience.
Her nonfiction is 🔥🔥🔥 Thank you for reading it again with us, Deea ❤
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace - I love being a part of this community and I love hearing from everyone. So very thankful it was opened to me!
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace which read of the non fiction?
@gordonwilson2533 She created comics, recorded a prayer journal, and wrote book reviews, letters, and essays. I've read and would recommend her prayer journal, collected letters (The Habit of Being), and the essays in the collection "Mystery and Manners."
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace Thank you, I will look them out, "The violent bear it away" is a great book too, cheers
it’s a parable
I listened to it. I had to quit listening to it half way through, because there was just an insane amount of bad language and over all grossness. I get the meaning of it after watching the video review you guys all did. I think I am just not a Flannery fan. I read a few of her short stories which are better, but I just did not love. I like dostoyevsky way more
Dostoevsky is very special 💯❤️🔥 I'm sorry you didn't love Flannery 🥺 She was an acquired taste for me, particularly Wise Blood 😂
@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace haha! No worries. I just am glad to not have to read anymore of her😂.