Pro players really just need to come to a gentleman’s agreement to ban certain things. Whether that’s in a voting style format where you pick what the other team can’t use right before the war start (so you can base build in a way that defends the things the can use) or permanent bans for an entire tournament for variety’s sake, I don’t care.
The fact that you can include 2 different wars in a single video to make it the usual ~30 min videos shows how broken the th16 is💀 man the average attack duration is less than 90s!!
I’d love to see a tournament where the tiebreaker isn’t time but whichever team swags the most spells or troops… then quality basebuilding could be a bigger factor
The game does a very poor job of rewarding effort. So many people spamming Edrags or RR because why go thru the trouble of trying something difficult when you get the same reward with just spam.
Then they are doing a good job! its all about perspective buddy. life isn’t about gaming all day sweating. there's more to do in before dying. why do people have to spend years in a fucking game to master skills? u r not gonna get money tripling in normal attacks. that's the job of esports players
@@lifeisbeautiful015People enjoy being good at the game, and if they put in time to learn than who are you to judge. People put in effort in things not necessarily for money, money isn’t everything in life buddy.
@@joshuahietala5174 it does not take whole life but just a couple of hours( or even some min. depending on your brain) to learn a new attack, difficulty is overrated, I just learned lavaloon at th9 in one day and i have not watched any video after that for any townhall and still i can do it perfectly at higher th 14,15s. Learning something new is fun for me.
@@bhagatfamily5363 First of all it's highly unlikely that you know how to do it perfectly, that would be very bold statement. Second of all learning something new doesn't pay the bills. Learning new attack doesn't mean you are perfect at it immediately, you need to spend hours and hours practicing it, if you want to consistently 3 star in higher town halls.
At this point it literally feels like Stars intentionally misses his lightning and still goes on to do fastest attack of the war just to show how broken he is or maybe the meta.
For perspectives, I am a th15 and I consistently triple against th16’s with QC hogs (frozen arrow + giant gauntlet). They really need to take a look at the balancing of equipments, or potentially buff defences to offset the broken meta.
Why are we acting like the problem is only with the pros ? The game being too easy and boring is a problem for a part of the normal players too even if it’s not the majority and a « pro mode » won’t fix the problem at all…
Bad players that started getting 3 stars with brainless rr spam are the ones acting like that. They forgot that CoC has always been a strategy game. On the other hand, I’m sure supercell won’t do anything if the current state of the game gets more active players.
@@dugget5492 yup it just feels like having all queen pieces instead of pawn pieces in a chessboard but only in my side. RRs are really ruining base buildings, plus spell towers are joke nowadays.
@@dugget5492 If the game is getting more players that alone would tell that the problem is the pro players only thinking about themselves and not the game itself.
if they don't add pro-mode in legends and in cwl at minimum what's the point. Yes theirs tourneys but what about the non pros who enjoy the competitiveness in cwl and legends. Game is getting boring with out that grind of practice. I'm glad the average Joe has something to be happy about but their is no comp
When you compare TH15 and TH16 the differences is that TH15 it's all about getting a triple or higher percentage in every attack while in TH16 it's all about time, who can finish the attack in less than a minute or less then 2 minutes. Hopefully #clashofclans will do something to make it more difficult to get a triple than attacking a base in less than a minute. Like TH15 it's all about strategy, but in TH16 you can just spam the RR and you can get a 3stars in less than 2 minutes. You can't even call that a strategy when do a spam RR attack.
@@EricOneHiveI think the major part that makes the attack easy is because of the introduction of equipment. If they are introduced in th15 update then th15 in the past probably wouldn't be as difficult as it was.
@@EricOneHiveAre root riders available in TH15? Because i remember a couple months ago TH15 seemed difficult as heck to get consistent 3 stars for the pros, let alone the average player
Tournament wars needs to be just like how moba games play matches competitively, there needs to be a ban selections to ban equipments, spells and troops. To be considered a "pro", you need to plan it around the bans. At this point the gap between us average players and these "pro" players are inching closer and closer. No more skill required due to broken troops and equipments.
Root riders are(italics) ruining the game. An absolute cop out attack. Not always 100% but 80-90% of the time always an easy 3 star. There’s no versatility in legends and not as much as there should be in esports
I think that since SuperCell has all the data, per attack, as to how many troops and spells were used, what heroes were used and how much time was spared, they can award some sort of "extra points" for 3 star attacks. These "extra points" can given be for time spared, troops or spells that are swagged or even for heroes that are swagged. And these "extra points" will only be taken into account, in the case if the war is tied. This will not only give the pros the opportunity to be more creative, but won't affect the average players' gameplay in any shape or form. That being said, along with this change, some kind of balance change do need to be implemented though.
Personally that stat i feel is based off of younger ppl. The majority of clash gamers have been playing for years. They’re trying to adapt for the younger generations which is screwing all of us og players over. Who have been tryna learn new strats for years, making it competitive.From a business perspective it makes sense to reach for a wider audience. But hurting the core audience at the same time.
I'd suggest changing the priority on how to win for pro players: stars, leftover troop/spell space, time. but I like seeing everything spammed in at the end when they have so much swag troops/spells lol.
Supercell says they need to make the game easy ok i agree but in tournament y should they can ban rr and new equipment in past evryone troll me y ur playing coc they recommend me ff and other stuff in that time i happy to be a coc player but now SC made to say coc is worst no strategy game
Yes root riders are op but dragons loon ect have always been op people can bring straight lighting spells and clean out air defenses and wipe a base out no heals or rage it’s ridiculous
Well every odd town hall level season are tough and even town hall level are abit easy so I don't mind but to loss even after you perfect war is too huge a disappointment don't y'all agree
I hope supercell introduce banning 2 elixir troops 1 d.elixir troop 2 super troop 1 siege machine 1 hero equipment This can be implemented in regular wars as well during prep time, the war lead selects which to ban from the opposing team
We have the same problem in builder base for a year now, but no one cares. It is way too easy to 6 star, and suddenly everyone complains about rr and everyone talks about it while no one talked about builder base, but the fact is that supercell gave us an answer that’s probably gonna be the same for home village : the game is too easy for good players but relatively balanced for intermediate players, and even hard for beginners, and there are more beginners/intermediates than good players. So they probably gonna do nothing to fix this until th17 comes out.
But don’t you think that a little bit or struggle on the parts of the game that are supposed to be more competitive would get them to try harder and become better and then ultimately have more satisfaction in the the game? That’s how most of the most dedicated players became so hooked on the game
@@EricOneHive the recommendation for a pro version is great but am just say you can't please everyone right way it will take sometime to implement think I have been playing for over 10yrs think we both see the issue.
Bro, i restarted coc after seeing all those updates like equipment, i really love the game now. I think game should be little more tougher but shouldn’t be too much tougher as normal people cant multitask and make a 3 star
The problem right now is not only root rider, but it is the general defence being weaker than before. Lower level townhalls like th14 to th11 are also very easy to get triple right now, that even people with shit army can still triple your base or get a high percentage.
Supercell needs to balance the game. Surely it can't go on like this for the rest of the year. My clan is getting bored and less active with how easy the game is now. Nobody wants to watch RR overgrowth over and over in wars. Now most people in my clan hop on, get their little star bonus, do their 2 war attacks and bounce. No one is really pushing in legends because defense doesn't exist and nobody wants to watch their base give up 300+ trophys. The game sucks right now.
Although I love root riders, I'd like to see a 3 or 4 % increase in all defensive buildings (damage and hit points), then give the pro players different options for a pro mode for friendly wars.
@@TC_Chiz The game balance is disgraceful. They should fire every low life Supergreed employee that has ANYTHING even remotely to do with game balancing.
ALL ARMIES ARE BROKEN……SUPERGREED WANTS TO LET NOOBS THREE STAR IN HOPES THAT THEY SPEND MONEY. THE GAME IS FINISHED, THE WEAK WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED.
People are being tunnelvisioned and think that problems that the top .0001% of players are facing are a problem for the rest of the players. A tournament mode is needed as many have suggested but the game being easier is better for the longitivtiy of the game
Supercell should do more tournaments like the creative masters series. Thats the only way to entertain fans/viewers. Were so tired of watching rootrider & valk attack.
I don’t mind this meta, sure competitive is a bit less interesting too watch, but I will always tune in to the daily Eric video. I’m having a great time playing right now.
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you're the savior
thank you
Pro players really just need to come to a gentleman’s agreement to ban certain things. Whether that’s in a voting style format where you pick what the other team can’t use right before the war start (so you can base build in a way that defends the things the can use) or permanent bans for an entire tournament for variety’s sake, I don’t care.
Maybe only allow 3 heroes in an attack.
Sounds like 5min prep time speed runs for builders😂
Yeah but what about legend league, clan wars and cwl?
NO….MY LEGENDS LEAGUE SHOULDNT BE RUINED ON SHIT GAME BALANCE
Balance the game
The fact that you can include 2 different wars in a single video to make it the usual ~30 min videos shows how broken the th16 is💀 man the average attack duration is less than 90s!!
Lmao
I’d love to see a tournament where the tiebreaker isn’t time but whichever team swags the most spells or troops… then quality basebuilding could be a bigger factor
NO
I would love to see the game balanced properly.
That first skelly donut was genius
The game does a very poor job of rewarding effort. So many people spamming Edrags or RR because why go thru the trouble of trying something difficult when you get the same reward with just spam.
Then they are doing a good job! its all about perspective buddy. life isn’t about gaming all day sweating. there's more to do in before dying. why do people have to spend years in a fucking game to master skills? u r not gonna get money tripling in normal attacks. that's the job of esports players
@@lifeisbeautiful015People enjoy being good at the game, and if they put in time to learn than who are you to judge. People put in effort in things not necessarily for money, money isn’t everything in life buddy.
Of course, people should spend all their life to being better in a mobile game instead of studying or going to work.
@@joshuahietala5174 it does not take whole life but just a couple of hours( or even some min. depending on your brain) to learn a new attack, difficulty is overrated, I just learned lavaloon at th9 in one day and i have not watched any video after that for any townhall and still i can do it perfectly at higher th 14,15s. Learning something new is fun for me.
@@bhagatfamily5363 First of all it's highly unlikely that you know how to do it perfectly, that would be very bold statement. Second of all learning something new doesn't pay the bills. Learning new attack doesn't mean you are perfect at it immediately, you need to spend hours and hours practicing it, if you want to consistently 3 star in higher town halls.
At this point it literally feels like Stars intentionally misses his lightning and still goes on to do fastest attack of the war just to show how broken he is or maybe the meta.
I can’t agree with the current meta being completely broken, but the missed eagle artillery and scatter shot got picked up by the yeti mites.
So the competitive players have to suffer because people want to be dumb and not learn anything new and get better?
So, people are dumb because they want to do other things in life than learning how to play a mobile game...
Yup.. Exactly
Yes weak players that want to 3 star with no skill are DUMB... REALLY DUMB
A max base should not be defenseless so weak garbage players can feel like they are good.
I think EVERYONE should spend less money and NOT play mini accounts for one season to send a clear message to Supergreed that this balance SUCKS
Yup... I have 9 accounts. I'm only playing my top four th16s so it looks like 5 players quit playing. Everyone should do that.
For perspectives, I am a th15 and I consistently triple against th16’s with QC hogs (frozen arrow + giant gauntlet). They really need to take a look at the balancing of equipments, or potentially buff defences to offset the broken meta.
Qc hogs se pehli baar suna hai triple th15 vs th16 hogs toh easily dead ho jaate hai survive nhi kar paate 😂😂
Why are we acting like the problem is only with the pros ? The game being too easy and boring is a problem for a part of the normal players too even if it’s not the majority and a « pro mode » won’t fix the problem at all…
Bad players that started getting 3 stars with brainless rr spam are the ones acting like that. They forgot that CoC has always been a strategy game. On the other hand, I’m sure supercell won’t do anything if the current state of the game gets more active players.
@@dugget5492 yup it just feels like having all queen pieces instead of pawn pieces in a chessboard but only in my side. RRs are really ruining base buildings, plus spell towers are joke nowadays.
Exactly…SuperGreed SUCKS
@@dugget5492 If the game is getting more players that alone would tell that the problem is the pro players only thinking about themselves and not the game itself.
@@joshuahietala5174what are you yapping about 😂
if they don't add pro-mode in legends and in cwl at minimum what's the point. Yes theirs tourneys but what about the non pros who enjoy the competitiveness in cwl and legends. Game is getting boring with out that grind of practice. I'm glad the average Joe has something to be happy about but their is no comp
W Franci
It was sad reading all those hate but still i am happy that clashers want competitive environment over easy game
Boring af these days . Just spamming RR
When you compare TH15 and TH16 the differences is that TH15 it's all about getting a triple or higher percentage in every attack while in TH16 it's all about time, who can finish the attack in less than a minute or less then 2 minutes. Hopefully #clashofclans will do something to make it more difficult to get a triple than attacking a base in less than a minute.
Like TH15 it's all about strategy, but in TH16 you can just spam the RR and you can get a 3stars in less than 2 minutes.
You can't even call that a strategy when do a spam RR attack.
I would say that TH15 is equally easy to TH16, often my TH15 can triple a TH16 just as easily as my TH16 can
@@EricOneHiveI think the major part that makes the attack easy is because of the introduction of equipment. If they are introduced in th15 update then th15 in the past probably wouldn't be as difficult as it was.
@@EricOneHiveAre root riders available in TH15? Because i remember a couple months ago TH15 seemed difficult as heck to get consistent 3 stars for the pros, let alone the average player
@@Alex-rv2my level 2 roots in th15
I got to triple a th16 (most defenses were max) in my last war with th14 using titan smash which was surprising.
Tournament wars needs to be just like how moba games play matches competitively, there needs to be a ban selections to ban equipments, spells and troops. To be considered a "pro", you need to plan it around the bans. At this point the gap between us average players and these "pro" players are inching closer and closer. No more skill required due to broken troops and equipments.
The Equipments just broke the game....Root Rider is balanced....but Not The Equipments
Root riders are(italics) ruining the game. An absolute cop out attack. Not always 100% but 80-90% of the time always an easy 3 star. There’s no versatility in legends and not as much as there should be in esports
I think that since SuperCell has all the data, per attack, as to how many troops and spells were used, what heroes were used and how much time was spared, they can award some sort of "extra points" for 3 star attacks. These "extra points" can given be for time spared, troops or spells that are swagged or even for heroes that are swagged. And these "extra points" will only be taken into account, in the case if the war is tied. This will not only give the pros the opportunity to be more creative, but won't affect the average players' gameplay in any shape or form. That being said, along with this change, some kind of balance change do need to be implemented though.
Personally that stat i feel is based off of younger ppl. The majority of clash gamers have been playing for years. They’re trying to adapt for the younger generations which is screwing all of us og players over. Who have been tryna learn new strats for years, making it competitive.From a business perspective it makes sense to reach for a wider audience. But hurting the core audience at the same time.
Reckoning win because 1 extra star from 69s attack 🗿
Every war is perfect and draw.. we are at draw no. 20 ATM .. come on supercell let someone win at least.. what are they doing to this game.?
I'd suggest changing the priority on how to win for pro players: stars, leftover troop/spell space, time. but I like seeing everything spammed in at the end when they have so much swag troops/spells lol.
No…..BALANCE THE GAME
Supercell says they need to make the game easy ok i agree but in tournament y should they can ban rr and new equipment in past evryone troll me y ur playing coc they recommend me ff and other stuff in that time i happy to be a coc player but now SC made to say coc is worst no strategy game
Yes root riders are op but dragons loon ect have always been op people can bring straight lighting spells and clean out air defenses and wipe a base out no heals or rage it’s ridiculous
Well every odd town hall level season are tough and even town hall level are abit easy so I don't mind
but to loss even after you perfect war is too huge a disappointment don't y'all agree
Eric op!
We need more tournaments with root riders banned
root riders too OP hero equipment too OP overgrowth too OP this game is so broken right now
i will be very happy if they got rid of root riders completely
I had more success in 3 starring a th 15 than a th 16 now
The game is broken... There is no defense at all
I want to see them do one with default equipment
I hope supercell introduce banning
2 elixir troops
1 d.elixir troop
2 super troop
1 siege machine
1 hero equipment
This can be implemented in regular wars as well during prep time, the war lead selects which to ban from the opposing team
Balance the game I absolutely HATE a max base being defenseless against noobs
Just do what R6S does and give player both an option to
Ban one attack troop and one spell…meaning players would have to think on fly
Would be better if it was like th15, where certain attacks work against certain bases, and you had to think of a strategy.
Only needs to be a smidge more difficult though, need to find that middle ground between th15 release and th16
"Th 16 is broken" better title
What happened to Pecastro?
i have a solution. root riders should get through first wall then act like other troops
If Navi gets a new player, why not get someone like Riqirez instead? Go for one the most excellent player instead
Riqirez already contracted with tribe gaming
we need to have ban in wc
We have the same problem in builder base for a year now, but no one cares. It is way too easy to 6 star, and suddenly everyone complains about rr and everyone talks about it while no one talked about builder base, but the fact is that supercell gave us an answer that’s probably gonna be the same for home village : the game is too easy for good players but relatively balanced for intermediate players, and even hard for beginners, and there are more beginners/intermediates than good players. So they probably gonna do nothing to fix this until th17 comes out.
No one plays builder base ,home village is the central thing in clash and everything revolves around it
The money comes from good players that’s why most of the update is for end game players
You are actually oa fury😲
@@Lucid.28 yes but same same issues same replies
The game balance sucks
Pro players make up a small part of the community the average player still struggle am just saying
But don’t you think that a little bit or struggle on the parts of the game that are supposed to be more competitive would get them to try harder and become better and then ultimately have more satisfaction in the the game? That’s how most of the most dedicated players became so hooked on the game
@@EricOneHive the recommendation for a pro version is great but am just say you can't please everyone right way it will take sometime to implement think I have been playing for over 10yrs think we both see the issue.
they should troop ban rule in world champion
Bro, i restarted coc after seeing all those updates like equipment, i really love the game now. I think game should be little more tougher but shouldn’t be too much tougher as normal people cant multitask and make a 3 star
Right phir tough hojayega toh triple hi nhi hoga😅😅
Th15 also same its too easy .15 should be the hardest townhall level now its piece of cake with RR. im playing ww zap rr
Root rider op hai ye lavaloon troop jaisa tha pehle bilkul jab Nerf ek baar bhi nhi hua tha tab 😂😂spam karke triple lo
The problem right now is not only root rider, but it is the general defence being weaker than before.
Lower level townhalls like th14 to th11 are also very easy to get triple right now, that even people with shit army can still triple your base or get a high percentage.
How is it the best if he barely got it
Supercell needs to balance the game. Surely it can't go on like this for the rest of the year. My clan is getting bored and less active with how easy the game is now. Nobody wants to watch RR overgrowth over and over in wars. Now most people in my clan hop on, get their little star bonus, do their 2 war attacks and bounce. No one is really pushing in legends because defense doesn't exist and nobody wants to watch their base give up 300+ trophys. The game sucks right now.
The game sucks.. Stuck in kids mode for the lazy noobs
lets go i hoppe navi gets yatta he is solid
Its time for Hiroya to join navi then
He joined Reckoning
11:48 : edrag spammers
HAHAHAHAHAAA
Synthe the goat ❤
Although I love root riders, I'd like to see a 3 or 4 % increase in all defensive buildings (damage and hit points), then give the pro players different options for a pro mode for friendly wars.
The game has no defense at all
@@DaveDefenseless oh, it has defense. Just too much offense.
@@TC_Chiz The game balance is disgraceful. They should fire every low life Supergreed employee that has ANYTHING even remotely to do with game balancing.
@@DaveDefenseless agreed.
Even Klaus is bored now lol
How about defensive heroes can use their equipment?
You really want a fireball to wipe your hogs 🤔
But imagine you’re about to take out the TH and boom! The enemy warden makes it invincible for 9 seconds with eternal tome
@@Alex-rv2mythat pain bro 🤣🤣
Franci 🔥
ALL ARMIES ARE BROKEN……SUPERGREED WANTS TO LET NOOBS THREE STAR IN HOPES THAT THEY SPEND MONEY. THE GAME IS FINISHED, THE WEAK WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED.
People are being tunnelvisioned and think that problems that the top .0001% of players are facing are a problem for the rest of the players. A tournament mode is needed as many have suggested but the game being easier is better for the longitivtiy of the game
This idiot game balance SUCKS. I'M NO PRO BUT A MAX BASE SHOULD NOT GET WRECKED BY WEAK MORONS WITH SPAM... YOU ARE WRONG
Wrong
@@DaBeck-q8e sure bud
Supercell should do more tournaments like the creative masters series. Thats the only way to entertain fans/viewers. Were so tired of watching rootrider & valk attack.
No….balance the game !!!!
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I don’t mind this meta, sure competitive is a bit less interesting too watch, but I will always tune in to the daily Eric video. I’m having a great time playing right now.
This balance sux