Good morning Mr Snooze, it’s going to be very interesting following the reconditioning of the armatures. very brave turning your back on the 8F! A lovely runner. Oscar
Lovely running from the 8F today. I know now that having watched this I shall be incorporating a commutator alignment check in all my servicing from now on. I look forward to the armature rewinding but I doubt very much that I would ever attempt that myself. Excellent video Mr. Snooze, thank you. Regards, David.
Good morning, it's an interesting insight into rewiring an armature, when I was young which is quite a while now I was bought something where you had to make up and wire an armature, unfortunately I can't remember what it was, perhaps others on the channel could shed some light on this, thanks for sharing, John
Thank goodness it wasn't anything too serious for the 8F. The slipped commutator is something to watch out for that you would never think of. I am fascinated to see the rewinding process. 😊👍
Hello Pauline, I've already hunted out some wire, I need to check the thickness. Also I may have a job for the old 3D printer. It's fun thinking about this job. All the best to you
Nice to see the 8F running so well on the Super 4 layout. Glad to hear you recovered after your recent bout of illness too. Look forward to seeing the armature rewiring. Stay safe. Mon from Monsville Railways
Now we're getting to the real black arts! I also suspect you have enough base metals to perform a little Alchemy!? LOL. Very entertaining, cheers, Andy.
A motor rewind, I look forward to seeing that. I have an old Dublo 2-6-4 tank locomotive that my father attempted a 3 rail to 2 rail conversion, he never did get it working and think he rewound it’s motor as it was faulty. I tried it a story while back and it starts okay and then slows down to a stop. The timing issue you bought up here is interesting, could that be the problem. I do wonder whether I’ll ever be able to rebuild it and get it running again.
I noticed the issue and the small dent the triang commutator where it lines up perfectly with the sharp edge of the pole piece (just on the X04). I find there are some minor variations in the Tri-ang hornby armature where the metal discs that seem to make them up are more or less numerous. The earlier yellow varnish type has soft fibre discs at the ends. In a small period where they transitioned from the yellow varnish to the green type insulation, about 1972 i believe) they did not add 2 metal discs for the missing and so they are less in wire length and have less torque. As well as this the varnish covered the poles like on the wrenn motor). Then back to the same amount and then in the late X04 days into the earlier X03 days, where some more were added and the length further increased. Also the insulation stopped covering the whole pole and just covered the area the wire coils in. I've had a few cases of the armature slipping, mostly when de/resoldering after a rewind. I think some sort of gripper to stop the black base from deforming would be a good idea. Can't wait for the next videos Regards Will
Thanks for watching William, that's some excellent information, thanks for taking the time to write your comment. I'm looking forward to this project. Best regards to you
What I did wonder was whether Triang and Hornby made their motors in house or whether they subcontracted out the whole thing or maybe just the armatures? They must have made millions of X04 type motors down through the years and it will be interesting to see how your rebuild goes and whether it tells you how easy production could have been scaled up.
Hello Simon, I've been told they made XO4 motors and bogies at Margate back in the day. I think all the modern items are made in the east these days. Thanks for watching, all the best to you
Will you be hand winding your coils ? I've done a few myself on mainly Dublo locos and is really worth the effort. Looking forward to see how you get on.
Thanks for watching Richard. I'm going to conduct experiments hand winding and I'm also 3D printing a winding machine. My main concern is insulating the armature laminations. What did you use when you did yours? Best regards to you
Looking forward to you rewinding the armature, great science lesson ,your skills are endless . Richard
Hello Richard, Lets see how this goes, I'm fairly optimistic so long as I can get some nice tight winds. All the best to you
Good morning Mr Snooze, it’s going to be very interesting following the reconditioning of the armatures. very brave turning your back on the 8F! A lovely runner.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, the 8F is quite well behaved but I soon turn round if the noise changes. All the best to you
I would be fascinated to see the re wiring process, so I look forward to the videos.
Thanks for watching this Simon, I hope you enjoy seeing how this develops. Best regards to you
Lovely running from the 8F today. I know now that having watched this I shall be incorporating a commutator alignment check in all my servicing from now on. I look forward to the armature rewinding but I doubt very much that I would ever attempt that myself. Excellent video Mr. Snooze, thank you. Regards, David.
Thanks David, I'm glad you enjoyed this. I shall certainly be checking the commutator from now on. Best regards to you
Good morning, it's an interesting insight into rewiring an armature, when I was young which is quite a while now I was bought something where you had to make up and wire an armature, unfortunately I can't remember what it was, perhaps others on the channel could shed some light on this, thanks for sharing, John
I've rewound a couple of Tri-ang armatures now. It's great to be able to repair this stuff. Take care, all the best to you
Thank goodness it wasn't anything too serious for the 8F. The slipped commutator is something to watch out for that you would never think of. I am fascinated to see the rewinding process. 😊👍
Hello Pauline, I've already hunted out some wire, I need to check the thickness. Also I may have a job for the old 3D printer. It's fun thinking about this job. All the best to you
What a interesting video love to see how you rewind the motors.
Thanks for watching, I hope I can do this successfully, It would be good to be able to mend these. All the best to you
Nice to see the 8F running so well on the Super 4 layout.
Glad to hear you recovered after your recent bout of illness too.
Look forward to seeing the armature rewiring.
Stay safe.
Mon from Monsville Railways
Thanks for watching this Mon, hopefully I'll be able to catch up on some of your videos soon. All the best to you
Interesting video again, that moter certainly has ha bad life. All the best Martin
How right you are Martin, this old motor has seen some real action. I hope I get it up and running again. Best regards to you
Looking forward to seeing the rewinding process, this is going to be amazing, all the best
Thanks for watching Bob, I'm going to give it a good try. Best regards to you
The layout us really growing. This should be a challenging project and interesting
Thanks for watching, I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes. Take care, all the best to you
Very interesting I enjoy these how to... I'm a bit behind but look forward to fowlling
Thanks for checking in Paul, I'm catching up on your developments too, it will be good to see the three rail. Best regards to you
@@MrSnooze Thank you
Can't wait!👍👍
Who knows what will happen, wire everywhere probably, all the best to you
Now we're getting to the real black arts! I also suspect you have enough base metals to perform a little Alchemy!? LOL. Very entertaining, cheers, Andy.
I don't know about Alchemy but I think I still have an old chemistry set somewhere. Thanks for watching, best regards to you
@@MrSnooze I'll bet it's a "Lett's" with a tiny meths burner.
A motor rewind, I look forward to seeing that. I have an old Dublo 2-6-4 tank locomotive that my father attempted a 3 rail to 2 rail conversion, he never did get it working and think he rewound it’s motor as it was faulty. I tried it a story while back and it starts okay and then slows down to a stop. The timing issue you bought up here is interesting, could that be the problem. I do wonder whether I’ll ever be able to rebuild it and get it running again.
I'm sure you will give that loco a good try Robin, It might be good to try another armature if you can lay your hands on one. Best regards to you
Very informative
Thanks, I hope you like seeing how this goes. Best regards to you
I noticed the issue and the small dent the triang commutator where it lines up perfectly with the sharp edge of the pole piece (just on the X04). I find there are some minor variations in the Tri-ang hornby armature where the metal discs that seem to make them up are more or less numerous. The earlier yellow varnish type has soft fibre discs at the ends. In a small period where they transitioned from the yellow varnish to the green type insulation, about 1972 i believe) they did not add 2 metal discs for the missing and so they are less in wire length and have less torque. As well as this the varnish covered the poles like on the wrenn motor). Then back to the same amount and then in the late X04 days into the earlier X03 days, where some more were added and the length further increased. Also the insulation stopped covering the whole pole and just covered the area the wire coils in. I've had a few cases of the armature slipping, mostly when de/resoldering after a rewind. I think some sort of gripper to stop the black base from deforming would be a good idea.
Can't wait for the next videos
Regards
Will
Thanks for watching William, that's some excellent information, thanks for taking the time to write your comment. I'm looking forward to this project. Best regards to you
What I did wonder was whether Triang and Hornby made their motors in house or whether they subcontracted out the whole thing or maybe just the armatures? They must have made millions of X04 type motors down through the years and it will be interesting to see how your rebuild goes and whether it tells you how easy production could have been scaled up.
Hello Simon, I've been told they made XO4 motors and bogies at Margate back in the day. I think all the modern items are made in the east these days. Thanks for watching, all the best to you
Will you be hand winding your coils ? I've done a few myself on mainly Dublo locos and is really worth the effort. Looking forward to see how you get on.
Thanks for watching Richard. I'm going to conduct experiments hand winding and I'm also 3D printing a winding machine. My main concern is insulating the armature laminations. What did you use when you did yours? Best regards to you
If You Can Pull This " Snooze Challenge " Off I'll Be Referring To You As Dr Snooze 😂😂😂😂😂 ( Super Interesting As Always ) 👍
I've always wanted to be a Doctor of something Tim, hopefully if I'm successful I'll qualify. Best regards to you