My mother used to say that the love of a mother is the only unconditional love you would ever find in your life, I miss my mother. On another note, no one can hold a relationship until you are grounded. And when are you grounded, when you can support yourself and then be able to support another life in your life.
@@Daniela-nn4qieven parents love don’t be unconditional the condition in which they love you is that you are there child my mom told me her love for me is unconditional but if I wasn’t her child she would have definitely not put up with me a long time ago😂
i agree very nice take on a difficult situation. I wish more couples saw it like this (assuming there was no bad actions taken - abuse, cheating , etc) and just did their best to limit damage to the other and move on
@@chilo8187but it doesn’t exactly feel this is amicable, it’s more practical … there are a lot of hurt feelings but they are trying to work through this minimizing harm to one another
As a gay man.. this is the sad truth for many in the lgbtqia+ community. Patents, sibilants, friends that you always believe would be there for you sadly turn away once they become aware you love someone of the same gender.
Aren’t they just. You have this beautiful, healthy child and all they ask or you is acceptance and patients yet your ego and lack of insight makes you abandon them
I think Nadine is very clever in her manipulations. She has people financially taking care of her. She does whatever she wants & feels good. Changes the narrative to fit her wants & needs then turns it onto the other person when it’s convenient. She’s very good at her manipulative behavior. Christine should move on & be happy without all the baggage & responsibility of another. Unless of course it’s real.
I would hate to be a marriage, or couples therapist because talking to people and trying to covertly or overtly change them in order to improve their relationships is an uphill battle that you will most likely lose.
I think that’s a misconception though. Orna(the therapist in this show) isn’t really trying to change them. it’s more changing the way they communicate and listen to their partner. She also helps them try to understand why they think or feel the way they do and become self aware or patterns that maybe they picked up from parents or trauma from their past. The saying “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t force them to drink”. That’s what she’s doing, she’s leading them to water.
People still stay in relationships because it's more expensive to live by yourself, in most cases. Right now you would have to make at least $4000 per month to find a 1 bed apt and qualify to rent (West Coast). If there were two people halve that--which now makes it more doable.
Not surprising that polyamorous relationships more than often don't work. It says a lot about those who want polyamorous and/or polygamous relationships. Childhood neglect, dad issues, attachment issues, trauma and dysfunctional family dynamics play a big part
I’d be really interested to see actual statistics of success rates of polyamourous vs monogamous relationships because we know divorce rates are not exactly supporting the narrative that monogamy is superior. I’ve been in incredibly fulfilling poly relationships, and incredibly toxic monogamous relationships (by the way I have a great relationship with my supportive family). I find there’s a tendency to blame polyamory when a poly relationship fails, when really it’s failed for the same reason monogamous relationships fail - Lack of respect, trust and communication.
Most people -poly or not-do not have the mental stability, calmness and patience for enduring the monotony [ and stability ] of a traditional 30-40-50 year marriage or partnership. If you're someone who needs drama, chaos, excitement, thrills, spills, etc stay single. Ask your partner: “what do you need from me in order to feel more loved by me?”
@@shelleycharlesworth5177 I don’t disagree, but our decision to open our marriage had absolutely nothing to do with not feeling loved enough by each other - in fact very much the opposite. We loved each other so much that we never wanted to deprive or deny each other from any kind of (safe) experience we wanted to indulge in. For me personally it had a lot to do with the complete and total loss of freedom and identity that came with becoming a mother. Nothing was fun anymore, it was just work work work. I wasn’t fun and I wasn’t happy. Sure, more quality time with my spouse was nice but the reality is someone needed to mind the kid, and having sex with the same person I’d been having sex with for 12 years wasn’t really scratching the need for freedom itch that I was feeling. Our love and appreciation for each other grew so much from our willingness to allow each other the space and freedom to give ourselves permission to really enjoy life (not each other, we have always enjoyed each other), for the first time in a long time.
I love Orna’s approach. Would love to run session the way that she does. Talk about goals.
She’s also had a lot of experience doing this and receive great advising from mentors and peers. I wish I had that.
My mother used to say that the love of a mother is the only unconditional love you would ever find in your life, I miss my mother. On another note, no one can hold a relationship until you are grounded. And when are you grounded, when you can support yourself and then be able to support another life in your life.
Yes, but this phrase is also a little dangerous. Some people don't have kind mothers and there is a lot of love better than the mother's love
And even that needs boundaries
The love of a father should be incondicional.
Aaaah mine disowned me cause I had a son at 26 & his family didn’t come to pay damages 🙄 people have conditional love out here
Why?
Yeah not all parents have unconditional love.
I feel that’s narcissistic
@@Daniela-nn4qieven parents love don’t be unconditional the condition in which they love you is that you are there child my mom told me her love for me is unconditional but if I wasn’t her child she would have definitely not put up with me a long time ago😂
“Decouple in an ethical way” is such an interesting thing to say…… like
So pretentious 😂
i agree very nice take on a difficult situation. I wish more couples saw it like this (assuming there was no bad actions taken - abuse, cheating , etc) and just did their best to limit damage to the other and move on
@@chilo8187 how so? I'm genuinely curious why you believe this
@@KS-op5hb “An amicable breakup” would be the non pretentious term lol.
@@chilo8187but it doesn’t exactly feel this is amicable, it’s more practical … there are a lot of hurt feelings but they are trying to work through this minimizing harm to one another
As a gay man.. this is the sad truth for many in the lgbtqia+ community. Patents, sibilants, friends that you always believe would be there for you sadly turn away once they become aware you love someone of the same gender.
Some parents are so disappointing.
Aren’t they just. You have this beautiful, healthy child and all they ask or you is acceptance and patients yet your ego and lack of insight makes you abandon them
Y’all, just because she’s selfish doesn’t mean she’s a bad person. Sometimes we lack the self awareness of our behaviors.
How heartbreaking 💔
My father would never have acted that way.😢
that's what she thought
this looks soooo interesting!
Interesting that her shirt says Better Together while they discuss breaking up
This is interesting
what season is this?
Season 3 Part 2 I believe
I think Nadine is very clever in her manipulations. She has people financially taking care of her. She does whatever she wants & feels good. Changes the narrative to fit her wants & needs then turns it onto the other person when it’s convenient. She’s very good at her manipulative behavior. Christine should move on & be happy without all the baggage & responsibility of another. Unless of course it’s real.
Sweater unraveling learn to crochet ❤ not run away 😊learn to knit not get to getting
I would hate to be a marriage, or couples therapist because talking to people and trying to covertly or overtly change them in order to improve their relationships is an uphill battle that you will most likely lose.
I think that’s a misconception though. Orna(the therapist in this show) isn’t really trying to change them. it’s more changing the way they communicate and listen to their partner. She also helps them try to understand why they think or feel the way they do and become self aware or patterns that maybe they picked up from parents or trauma from their past. The saying “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t force them to drink”. That’s what she’s doing, she’s leading them to water.
Dont judge !
So she only wants to stay in the relationship for financial benefit.
.....a lot of our parents stayed because of finances....
People still stay in relationships because it's more expensive to live by yourself, in most cases. Right now you would have to make at least $4000 per month to find a 1 bed apt and qualify to rent (West Coast). If there were two people halve that--which now makes it more doable.
Just because our parents use to do it, and because some people do it now, it doesn’t make it ok
@@86sineadw I know. I was just highlighting that it'snot easy to leave
They don’t have to be together. They both benefit from living together right now.
Not surprising that polyamorous relationships more than often don't work. It says a lot about those who want polyamorous and/or polygamous relationships. Childhood neglect, dad issues, attachment issues, trauma and dysfunctional family dynamics play a big part
Well a lot of relationships between two people don't work either. This show is evidence of that.
I’d be really interested to see actual statistics of success rates of polyamourous vs monogamous relationships because we know divorce rates are not exactly supporting the narrative that monogamy is superior. I’ve been in incredibly fulfilling poly relationships, and incredibly toxic monogamous relationships (by the way I have a great relationship with my supportive family). I find there’s a tendency to blame polyamory when a poly relationship fails, when really it’s failed for the same reason monogamous relationships fail -
Lack of respect, trust and communication.
Most people -poly or not-do not have the mental stability, calmness and patience for enduring the monotony [ and stability ]
of a traditional 30-40-50 year marriage or partnership. If you're someone who needs drama, chaos, excitement, thrills, spills, etc stay single.
Ask your partner: “what do you need from me in order to feel more loved by me?”
@@shelleycharlesworth5177 I don’t disagree, but our decision to open our marriage had absolutely nothing to do with not feeling loved enough by each other - in fact very much the opposite. We loved each other so much that we never wanted to deprive or deny each other from any kind of (safe) experience we wanted to indulge in. For me personally it had a lot to do with the complete and total loss of freedom and identity that came with becoming a mother. Nothing was fun anymore, it was just work work work. I wasn’t fun and I wasn’t happy. Sure, more quality time with my spouse was nice but the reality is someone needed to mind the kid, and having sex with the same person I’d been having sex with for 12 years wasn’t really scratching the need for freedom itch that I was feeling. Our love and appreciation for each other grew so much from our willingness to allow each other the space and freedom to give ourselves permission to really enjoy life (not each other, we have always enjoyed each other), for the first time in a long time.
She needs to find a job. 🤷🏻♀️
She is very selfish
Rubbish!