This is really interesting, Iskat fell to the Darkside as a Jedi Knight, Prosset Dibs a Jedi Master, Tualon was also a Jedi Knight before his own fall as was the Grand Inquisitor and Ninth Sister. Fifth Brother, Sixth Brother, and Seventh Sister also appear to be old enough to have been former Jedi Knights when they were introduced in the Vader Comics. If the Inquisitorius Program was as Darth Sidious put it a project he had long planned, then it means he was actively poaching disgruntled Knights and Masters from within the Jedi Order itself for years prior to the execution of Order 66 - the Jedi Council was blinded by the Darkside if they didn't notice this behind the scenes.
That’s because they were. We’ve had council members state many, many times throughout the Clone Wars show that the dark side was clouding things. Mace Windu even outright states in ATOC that the Jedi’s ability to use the Force had been diminished.
I forgot this book was coming out. Super odd choice to do a one-off on an unnamed Inquisitor both introduced and killed off in a couple comics. However I’m starting to find my favourite star wars content follows lesser-known characters and dives more into the subtleties of eras and planets and niches in the galaxy in which they operate (see: Andor, Rogue One, Aftermath, Lost Stars, etc.)
5:29 We love violent women Inquisitors yes we do Really excited for this book. I love the Inquisitors and I'm excited to get an even closer look at the Wartime jedi Order and the experiences of the average Jedi.
Since I knew this book will come out I was pretty excited, especially I am eager to know how the inquisitors became disappointed with the order, but most important, how Sidius knew about them and how he approached them in order to ask them to join the inquisitorious.
As some with too many audible credits thanks to forgetting to cancel my subscription, this one will definitely be a pick up! Excited to see if those early purge troopers being clones comes into play at all.
Dope. I would definitely like to know all I possibly can about the Inquisitors. Thanks man! Wasn't even aware this was coming out. Will for sure ve picking it up
In the Ahsoka novel, it is said she had some kind of bond with the crystals in the Inquisitor’s lightsaber, am I correct? If so, what if the kyber crystals in Sixth Brother’s lightsaber are actually the crystals from Asajj Ventress’ red lightsabers? Because, as far as I’m aware, no one knows what happened to them after Anakin disarmed Barriss Offee. Also, prior to her lightsabers being stolen, Ventress and Tano appear to have bonded a little. At least Ventress wasn’t out to kill her and she did seem like she genuinely wanted to help her former enemy. So yeah, what if Ahsoka’s white lightsabers are using the purified crystals of Asajj Ventress’ lightsabers?
The problem with the Jedi Order was that they were too rigid with the Jedi Code and it didn’t change with the times. I think the reason the survivors became Inquisitors was that they lost faith in the Jedi since they only served a corrupt government and the Clone Wars lasted three whole years with no end in sight.
Same. We’ve all been trying to fill in the numbers for forever now. I just want them to properly give all the members their numbers so we have the complete list lol.
@@a_fine_edition2746 I wish they never numbered them just so we just wouldn't worry about this. I don't remember Legends numbering Inquisitors or Emperor's Hands, or they should have gave them larger numbers like stormtroopers and clones so it wouldn't need to be counted.
seeing as though we know numbers 1-10 already, they'd have to be 11 onwards. and what of the old "fourth sister" with the lightsaber pike? We also didn't need a change in the look of the sixth brother from what he looked like in the comic to Nihilus plague doctor. Tualon could be the first brother.
@@donttreadonmetal5073 the female inquisitor with yellow skin from Obi-Wan is the real fourth sister. The problem is the higher the number gets the "uglier" it gets. Seventeenth Sister just doesn't sound as cool as Seventh Sister. It's also unclear whether the TotJ inquisitor is supposed to be the Sixth Brother. I reckon if he's a new one him, Iskat and Tualon woild be 11-13 which can still sound kinda cool
The Jedi of the prequels were more flexible than people realise. Rael Aveross was accepted into the Jedi Order at five which Obi-Wan says is late and Qui-Gon Jinn, you know the maverick, said the Jedi Council made too many allowances for him. The Council also changed their minds about Anakin’s acceptance which they wouldn’t have if they really were rigid. Then there’s the variation in the Jedi robes with Ahsoka, Vos, Aayla, Shaak Ti and Luminara and Barriss being examples. Anakin’s room being filled with stuff in contrast to Yoda and Windu’s emptier quarters even with Anakin being the one to say possession was forbidden for Jedi. Barriss is in fact one of the biggest examples because we see her meditating in her quarters in front of a prayer statue clearly from her homeworld meaning having religious beliefs outside of the Force is a thing. In Brotherhood when Mill Alibeth doesn’t want to fight they organised it so she could use her connection to the Force to provide medical and spiritual assistance instead. And in that capacity she’s assisting Rig Nema but it’s not so formalised she’s Nema’s padawan, showing there’s flexibility within the Jedi Order’s studies and career paths. The Jedi of the High Republic aren’t more flexible than the prequel ones but can feel that way because of a bunch of factors but given this reply is already long the one I’ll talk about here is the difference in media formats. Pretty much most of HR is told through books which have the time and space to explore things in more detail compared to a film or television episode. The various clone wars and trilogy characters most certainly would’ve interacted with and seen the Force in different ways. But while it would have been cool to explore, it simply wasn’t relevant to the stories the writers were telling and when you have a thirty minute episode or a roughly two hour film anything that’s irrelevant doesn’t get included. This means examples of open-mindedness and diversity occurs in the background and therefore tends to be missed unless you’re looking for it. I am someone who grew up in a very unrestrictive environment whose parents set barely any rules and I’ve never once found the Jedi to be rigid. Individuals yes, e.g. from the review I take it Iskat Akaris’s master is the kind of person who does have a more rigid personality, but from the Order as a whole no. Anyway I was originally on the fence about whether to read this book or not, but this review has me sold on reading it, so thank you.
Qui-Gon was of Yoda's lineage which surely gave him greater breathing space. They decided to train Anakin only after Qui-Gon died and the Sith's return was confirmed. The Jedi didn't wear any uniform but their "standard" clothes were quite demure in comparison to their golden "standard" clothes during the High Republic. Anakin's room in an example of how non-conforming he was in comparison to others. At that time Barriss fell to the dark side so I don't think that her room should be given as an example of the Order's liberalism. Jedi of the High Republic were more flexible. Not only in their teachings and attitudes towards the galaxy but also in practice to their own members. Could you imagine a Jedi from the Clone Wars era carrying a shield instead of a lightsaber like Silandra Sho or meditating by repairing things like Ram Jomaram?
@@Kubinda12345 Rael Aveross was Dooku’s padawan so he was of Yoda lineage too, but the reason he was given allowances had nothing to do with his lineage but because he came to the Jedi late. By the way Yoda didn’t want Qui-Gon on the Jedi Council but the others overruled him because they recognised they needed more perspectives. Qui-Gon turned the position down. How does clothing being demure translate to inflexibility? As you said they had no uniform. And you do realise you could make the exact same argument for the High Republic characters. The Jedi of that era had a ‘standard’ as well only with a white and gold colour scheme instead. Depa’s room in the Kanan comic was filled with plants so no it wasn’t just Anakin’s room that had stuff in it. Barriss fell to the dark side because of the Jedi’s involvement in the war not anything to do with Jedi teachings or general practices. And her room it is still an example of diversity within the Order because it tells us having other religious beliefs was allowed (she didn’t exactly scramble to hide it when Anakin entered, the statue was out in plain sight unlike Ventress’s lightsaber which she did hide). Again the Jedi of the High Republic may feel that way but objectively that’s not true. Film and TV are a more limited format than books. Would it have been cool to see different meditation styles used? Yes. But they weren’t relevant to the narrative so they weren’t included. It’s like saying Mace Windu doesn’t eat because we never saw him eating on screen. As for the teachings if you really watch the movies and Clone Wars and really listen, then compare them with the High Republic you’ll find they are the same. Again books provide more time and space so the writers could lay the Jedi teachings out word for word. In fact it’s almost like the writers were specifically trying to clear up misconceptions by giving lots of exposition, because reading the High Republic books as someone who likes the Jedi and gets really annoyed by people misunderstanding Jedi philosophy, the project gave me immense feelings of vindication. It felt like we got writers who finally understood them. Also yes, I could definitely imagine a Jedi during the Clone Wars carrying a shield. Bultar Swan was known for creating a new form of combat by combining her knowledge of martial arts with lightsaber techniques. Don’t blame the characters, blame the writers for not being creative enough and the narrative constraints which both didn’t allow them to explore more perspectives, and limited what they could do. Seriously, the High Republic writers had much more creative freedom, as long as it followed how the Force was established to work as set by George Lucas and was roughly congruent with where the galaxy ends up by the prequels they could do anything. The Clone Wars writers were much, much more restricted. Speaking of characters, when it comes to Jedi interacting with the galaxy this is once again a matter of cast size. The High Republic casts is so large one of the criticisms levelled at it is it suffers from an overabundance of them. We see the Jedi interacting with all kinds of people and most of them have a positive view towards the Order. This was not the case with the prequels which had a much smaller cast that mainly consisted of either criminals, Sith and Sith adjacent, and military. Another difference is that the High Republic is set during peace time where the prequels were set in wartime with said war deliberately design to ruin the Jedi’s reputation in the wider galaxy. Even the number of Jedi we spent time with was limited. The main POV for the prequels was Anakin and he wanted the whole cake so of course he’s going to view the Jedi as being inflexible. Even then the argument he makes was that the Jedi should be willing to do more to win the war which as we saw with Quinlan Vos was a disaster. I would like to point out that one of these instances was with Tarkin who, you know, touted terror tactics and genocide via super laser. There comes a point when it’s no longer flexibility and for Force-users, not just Jedi, crossing that line is incredibly dangerous because of how corrupting the dark side is. It plays into why unless your an entity like the Bendu or the Father, you cannot be a “grey” Force-user because either you choose the light or the dark will make you a monster. It’s fine to like the High Republic stuff more, I don’t blame you since they are closer to the kind of Jedi fans wanted to see when the Prequels were announced, but don’t use it to make bad faith arguments about the prequel Jedi who weren’t even the focus of the films in the first place. In fact if people were to ask me what I would recommend for Jedi centric stories, I would point them to the High Republic media and tell them to watch the movies last exactly because for someone who doesn’t have a background in mindfulness or a basic understanding of Buddhism, the High Republic’s exposition is incredibly useful.
I'm looking forward to reading this book. Palpatine was truly an evil genius. The Clone Wars were designed as a perfect inescapeable trap for the Jedi because no matter what they did, they would be destroyed. Even if Anakin decided to kill Palpatine in Episode III and the Republic somehow believed the Jedi, the Order was still devastated. They lost thousands of members including the most experienced ones, the teenage Padawans spend years in brutal warfare which would greatly unbalance them and perhaps cause a wave of fallen Jedi in the future, the Jedi's reputation was in tatters etc.
I think it is also possible to both understand and sympathize with a character without agreeing with them. (After all, we have to do that in real life, and it is easier to learn and work on the skill with fiction.) The faith and spirituality angle is how I related to the Obi-Wan Kenobi series as well as The Mandalorian and I think it will be a theme in the Ahsoka series as well. The characters are lost after a major crisis of faith (due to institutional dysfunction) and are both regaining it and figuring out how to make it work outside of the institutions that they came from. It was really relatable. Lonely, but relatable.
So excited for this book! I finished Phasma a week or so ago and really loved Dawson’s writing in it. Very curious what kind of prose this book will have! Phasma had an interesting blend of third person present tense / third person past tense as a narrative device, curious if this will do anything like that.
I’m quite eager to check this book out. Anything related to the Inquisitors always intrigues me. I only want to know one thing: what’s Iskat’s inquisitor title? I’ve been calling her the Red Sister since the Vader comics
This is probably my most anticipated book of the year and the second I see that red blade on a shelf I am going to pounce on it, shut myself in my office and not come out till I've finished it 😂😂😂
nice review. are you planning on doing an updated ranking of all the modern/disney era novels any time soon? i think its been a while. or are there too many now?
I gotta admit Im a little wary of this book's existence as, overall in the grand scheme, Ive been rather unimpressed with the Inquisitors as a whole. Am hopeful it'll be good.
If it’s as good as it sounds it will go a long way for me personally, since i’m in the same boat as not really digging them. Only got down with Grand and Trilla
I thought they were used well, more or less, in Rebels. Fallen Order also did a good job. They stoically feel like threats to our heroes, particularly the grand inquisitor and and Trila. Though even the two that replaced the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels usually had our heroes on the run, which was an important part of the story. They didn’t come across well in Obi Wan though. They seemed overplayed, and kinda came across as a joke.
@@thedapperdolphin1590The Grand Inquisitor was menacing in the opening scene, the scene where Reva screams Owen in the face had me scared and where the Fifth Brother says "That seat...belongs to me.", I got chills. I agree however on Rebels. But honestly, Rebels had tons of bland and uninteresting characters, that I never got invested in.
I finished last night and really enjoyed it. I didn't love the epilogue, but had forgotten that came from the comic side of things until this video, so it bothers me less now.
As far as a mature take on the Clone Wars, the Dark Horse comics did this exceptionally well and many of those stories could be canon without interfering with Disneys lore
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о a lot of the smaller stories would be fine. Plenty of ARC trooper tales, not a comic but Republic Commando, there’s definitely a bunch.
I do wonder what it was about some nameless Inquisitor from the comics that prompted a whole novel. I've already got my pre order in just because Dawson never disappoints but it does seem an odd choice
They probably chose her because it's an already existing Inquisitor that hints of a deeper story, but not much actually written about her. It gives a lot of freedom to explore this specific character in this pretty well-established time period and their role in the Inquistorius, while answering questions about the group as a whole.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say it was because she was a blank canvas. The Inquisitors are pretty cool as a concept but not many of the ones who've been featured more prominently have popped as that interesting individually. Ninth Sister, the 3 from Rebels, Reva...they are all rather meh. Trilla was great but Dawson might not have been able to use her for rights reasons or she just WANTED a fresh perspective. Prosset Dibs is cool & the Grand Inquisitor is cool, but I can see the reasoning for going with this relative unknown. Tales of the Jedi & the Ahsoka show created new ones...that could've worked too but it's nice to have even just that small bit of interconnectivity that using someone who actually pre-existed gets you.
If they picked a more famous inquisitor, the famous encounter might be somewhat of a distraction from the story. Or people will pick it up in the hopes it offers more Obi-Wan, Cal Kestis or Rebels.
Well that's just great. Thanks to your glowing review, now I have to secure a copy of the SDCC exclusive 😅 and since I'm not going to SDCC it's going to cost me 😂 Edit- just got my copy 😅
@@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 I guess you're right, it is my problem. But it's not a problem for me. I am at peace with being done with Star Wars. Is this a problem?
@@Lonewolf0840 You can live in peace with it, but if you don't want to read a book, you think would be cool, because you're done with Star Wars, I'm saying it's more your own problem then.
NGL you used "plot armor" a lot in this review which is just a term I hate, it's often used to demean or devalue stories and it get used a lot in prequel stories and characters like "Oh plot Armor alert". It's not a very good or objective term to be using IMO. As good as it is to finally have some answers about the Inquisitors, I kinda wish it was saved for a bigger project. I just feel those reveals deserved more traction than they may get in this book. I do love that Dawson saw this one nameless character and went "I want to do her story". That comment about "a mature take on the Clone Wars" really just rubbed me the wrong way. It felt like a bit of a dunk on TCW, I know the books tend to be dive deeper and be more mature anyway but the way you talked about it in the video just felt in bad taste to me as in "mature is inherently better" as if things like how the Jedi were forced to fight and change or lost people at Geonosis and how that changed them as an Order has never been touched on before when it absolutely has. As if we haven't seen that era through a mature lens before. Felt like a weird thing to say and it kinda annoyed me. It's just reminding me of the larger issue in the fandom atm. Nothing against the book itself in that regard. I'm sure that's exactly not how it's written. Just don't think it was presented very well in the review even if it was all to avoid spoiling the book's contents
Alex specifically mentioned that this more "mature" ground HAS been covered and IN TCW for that matter, so I'm sorry his comment rubbed you wrong but it seems misplaced in this case. Also the term "plot armor" can irk me too. It definitely gets overused. But I think in a franchise like Star Wars that has multiple eras and characters that span decades in varying stories, it's very much fair use. You can't write a story about clone wars era Anakin and have people be worried he's going to be killed. Because pretty much any fan knows he has to live to become Vader. Yes, there are other ways you can create drama with the character, but it's not open-ended. You know he's safe from certain developments already. New characters whose fates we don't know just don't have that.
I never understood the Jedi as a religion. Force users feel the Force in a palpable, material way. If you use the Force, you will see an immediate reaction. Religion is worthless without faith, you're supposed to BELIEVE even if you don't get immediate reactions or answers from your prayers and such.
According to some people god is very active in their life, actively helping out. To them religion is about a relationship rather that belief. Within the Star Wars universe the everyday people are not connected to the force, they haven’t seen Jedi doing their thing. Even if they did see Jedi in action, something like the will of the force or the dark and lightside might be more of a belief/faith thing.
@@Bas-TB What you are describing is subjective, you can "believe" God "helps" you but there is no physical evidence for this. The Force has a physical, biological (midichlorians, for example), and therefore objective effect on the Galaxy. People don't have to "believe" in the Force. The Force is in everyone. As Yoda says, "life creates it." There are many people and cultures outside of the Jedi who interact with the Force in a variety of ways. Plus, the Jedi don't come out of nowhere, they look out to find people throughout the Galaxy who are able to actively use the Force.
@@reymafias6404 Most people in the Star Wars universe are not that familiar with the force, Han Solo for example: “Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other; I've seen a lot of strange stuff. But I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything.” So he is rightfully skeptical towards the existence of the force. If with his experience he would be convinced about the existence of the force wouldn’t that be faith/belief. I had people telling me that no matter if I believe, god is real and is the creator of everything. So I am either like Han Solo missing the experience or denying the experience. In their very subjective opinion they have their religion because it is the reality. The force as a religion is probably also based the force being more than just a natural energy field some are lucky enough to be able to draw from or are able to manipulate it. But that it has a darkside and a lightside, or that it has something like opinions/goals or that you can treat it right or wrong.
This book is what i love about star wars every singel minor character will always have a interesting story
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Always like to know more about the inquisitor
This is really interesting, Iskat fell to the Darkside as a Jedi Knight, Prosset Dibs a Jedi Master, Tualon was also a Jedi Knight before his own fall as was the Grand Inquisitor and Ninth Sister. Fifth Brother, Sixth Brother, and Seventh Sister also appear to be old enough to have been former Jedi Knights when they were introduced in the Vader Comics. If the Inquisitorius Program was as Darth Sidious put it a project he had long planned, then it means he was actively poaching disgruntled Knights and Masters from within the Jedi Order itself for years prior to the execution of Order 66 - the Jedi Council was blinded by the Darkside if they didn't notice this behind the scenes.
That’s because they were. We’ve had council members state many, many times throughout the Clone Wars show that the dark side was clouding things. Mace Windu even outright states in ATOC that the Jedi’s ability to use the Force had been diminished.
I forgot this book was coming out. Super odd choice to do a one-off on an unnamed Inquisitor both introduced and killed off in a couple comics. However I’m starting to find my favourite star wars content follows lesser-known characters and dives more into the subtleties of eras and planets and niches in the galaxy in which they operate (see: Andor, Rogue One, Aftermath, Lost Stars, etc.)
Thanks for always having the most honest non biased reviews
5:29 We love violent women Inquisitors yes we do
Really excited for this book. I love the Inquisitors and I'm excited to get an even closer look at the Wartime jedi Order and the experiences of the average Jedi.
This was a really good book. One of my favorite Star Wars books so far. And before anyone says anything, I've only read about 8 or 9 so far.
It sounds like this book goes into the mature themes the original clone wars multi media project did. Sounds cool
Since I knew this book will come out I was pretty excited, especially I am eager to know how the inquisitors became disappointed with the order, but most important, how Sidius knew about them and how he approached them in order to ask them to join the inquisitorious.
This is my most anticipated book of the year. So excited to read it.
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Well, did you finished it? How was it?!
@@lichcoin6144 I did enjoy it, I have a full review of it on my channel.
As some with too many audible credits thanks to forgetting to cancel my subscription, this one will definitely be a pick up! Excited to see if those early purge troopers being clones comes into play at all.
Dope. I would definitely like to know all I possibly can about the Inquisitors. Thanks man! Wasn't even aware this was coming out. Will for sure ve picking it up
In the Ahsoka novel, it is said she had some kind of bond with the crystals in the Inquisitor’s lightsaber, am I correct? If so, what if the kyber crystals in Sixth Brother’s lightsaber are actually the crystals from Asajj Ventress’ red lightsabers? Because, as far as I’m aware, no one knows what happened to them after Anakin disarmed Barriss Offee. Also, prior to her lightsabers being stolen, Ventress and Tano appear to have bonded a little. At least Ventress wasn’t out to kill her and she did seem like she genuinely wanted to help her former enemy.
So yeah, what if Ahsoka’s white lightsabers are using the purified crystals of Asajj Ventress’ lightsabers?
I'm really excited for this one. It will be my first book of Star Wars
I loved the Phasma novel and after hearing this review I definitely want to give Rise of the Red Blade a read when it comes out
Fantastic book!
DSD writing another Villain novel. I am so excited!! And everything you have said about it makes it clear I will LOVE this book
The problem with the Jedi Order was that they were too rigid with the Jedi Code and it didn’t change with the times. I think the reason the survivors became Inquisitors was that they lost faith in the Jedi since they only served a corrupt government and the Clone Wars lasted three whole years with no end in sight.
Oh wow your words are making me even more excited about this book!
My burning question is what titles did her and the Twi'Lek have
I absolutely agree. I also wonder if we’ll see a new inquistor and/or a new order 66 survivor.
Same. We’ve all been trying to fill in the numbers for forever now. I just want them to properly give all the members their numbers so we have the complete list lol.
@@a_fine_edition2746 I wish they never numbered them just so we just wouldn't worry about this. I don't remember Legends numbering Inquisitors or Emperor's Hands, or they should have gave them larger numbers like stormtroopers and clones so it wouldn't need to be counted.
seeing as though we know numbers 1-10 already, they'd have to be 11 onwards. and what of the old "fourth sister" with the lightsaber pike?
We also didn't need a change in the look of the sixth brother from what he looked like in the comic to Nihilus plague doctor. Tualon could be the first brother.
@@donttreadonmetal5073 the female inquisitor with yellow skin from Obi-Wan is the real fourth sister. The problem is the higher the number gets the "uglier" it gets. Seventeenth Sister just doesn't sound as cool as Seventh Sister. It's also unclear whether the TotJ inquisitor is supposed to be the Sixth Brother. I reckon if he's a new one him, Iskat and Tualon woild be 11-13 which can still sound kinda cool
The Jedi of the prequels were more flexible than people realise. Rael Aveross was accepted into the Jedi Order at five which Obi-Wan says is late and Qui-Gon Jinn, you know the maverick, said the Jedi Council made too many allowances for him. The Council also changed their minds about Anakin’s acceptance which they wouldn’t have if they really were rigid. Then there’s the variation in the Jedi robes with Ahsoka, Vos, Aayla, Shaak Ti and Luminara and Barriss being examples. Anakin’s room being filled with stuff in contrast to Yoda and Windu’s emptier quarters even with Anakin being the one to say possession was forbidden for Jedi.
Barriss is in fact one of the biggest examples because we see her meditating in her quarters in front of a prayer statue clearly from her homeworld meaning having religious beliefs outside of the Force is a thing. In Brotherhood when Mill Alibeth doesn’t want to fight they organised it so she could use her connection to the Force to provide medical and spiritual assistance instead. And in that capacity she’s assisting Rig Nema but it’s not so formalised she’s Nema’s padawan, showing there’s flexibility within the Jedi Order’s studies and career paths.
The Jedi of the High Republic aren’t more flexible than the prequel ones but can feel that way because of a bunch of factors but given this reply is already long the one I’ll talk about here is the difference in media formats.
Pretty much most of HR is told through books which have the time and space to explore things in more detail compared to a film or television episode. The various clone wars and trilogy characters most certainly would’ve interacted with and seen the Force in different ways. But while it would have been cool to explore, it simply wasn’t relevant to the stories the writers were telling and when you have a thirty minute episode or a roughly two hour film anything that’s irrelevant doesn’t get included. This means examples of open-mindedness and diversity occurs in the background and therefore tends to be missed unless you’re looking for it.
I am someone who grew up in a very unrestrictive environment whose parents set barely any rules and I’ve never once found the Jedi to be rigid. Individuals yes, e.g. from the review I take it Iskat Akaris’s master is the kind of person who does have a more rigid personality, but from the Order as a whole no.
Anyway I was originally on the fence about whether to read this book or not, but this review has me sold on reading it, so thank you.
Qui-Gon was of Yoda's lineage which surely gave him greater breathing space.
They decided to train Anakin only after Qui-Gon died and the Sith's return was confirmed.
The Jedi didn't wear any uniform but their "standard" clothes were quite demure in comparison to their golden "standard" clothes during the High Republic.
Anakin's room in an example of how non-conforming he was in comparison to others.
At that time Barriss fell to the dark side so I don't think that her room should be given as an example of the Order's liberalism.
Jedi of the High Republic were more flexible. Not only in their teachings and attitudes towards the galaxy but also in practice to their own members. Could you imagine a Jedi from the Clone Wars era carrying a shield instead of a lightsaber like Silandra Sho or meditating by repairing things like Ram Jomaram?
@@Kubinda12345 Rael Aveross was Dooku’s padawan so he was of Yoda lineage too, but the reason he was given allowances had nothing to do with his lineage but because he came to the Jedi late. By the way Yoda didn’t want Qui-Gon on the Jedi Council but the others overruled him because they recognised they needed more perspectives. Qui-Gon turned the position down.
How does clothing being demure translate to inflexibility? As you said they had no uniform. And you do realise you could make the exact same argument for the High Republic characters. The Jedi of that era had a ‘standard’ as well only with a white and gold colour scheme instead.
Depa’s room in the Kanan comic was filled with plants so no it wasn’t just Anakin’s room that had stuff in it.
Barriss fell to the dark side because of the Jedi’s involvement in the war not anything to do with Jedi teachings or general practices. And her room it is still an example of diversity within the Order because it tells us having other religious beliefs was allowed (she didn’t exactly scramble to hide it when Anakin entered, the statue was out in plain sight unlike Ventress’s lightsaber which she did hide).
Again the Jedi of the High Republic may feel that way but objectively that’s not true. Film and TV are a more limited format than books. Would it have been cool to see different meditation styles used? Yes. But they weren’t relevant to the narrative so they weren’t included. It’s like saying Mace Windu doesn’t eat because we never saw him eating on screen. As for the teachings if you really watch the movies and Clone Wars and really listen, then compare them with the High Republic you’ll find they are the same. Again books provide more time and space so the writers could lay the Jedi teachings out word for word. In fact it’s almost like the writers were specifically trying to clear up misconceptions by giving lots of exposition, because reading the High Republic books as someone who likes the Jedi and gets really annoyed by people misunderstanding Jedi philosophy, the project gave me immense feelings of vindication. It felt like we got writers who finally understood them.
Also yes, I could definitely imagine a Jedi during the Clone Wars carrying a shield. Bultar Swan was known for creating a new form of combat by combining her knowledge of martial arts with lightsaber techniques. Don’t blame the characters, blame the writers for not being creative enough and the narrative constraints which both didn’t allow them to explore more perspectives, and limited what they could do. Seriously, the High Republic writers had much more creative freedom, as long as it followed how the Force was established to work as set by George Lucas and was roughly congruent with where the galaxy ends up by the prequels they could do anything. The Clone Wars writers were much, much more restricted.
Speaking of characters, when it comes to Jedi interacting with the galaxy this is once again a matter of cast size. The High Republic casts is so large one of the criticisms levelled at it is it suffers from an overabundance of them. We see the Jedi interacting with all kinds of people and most of them have a positive view towards the Order. This was not the case with the prequels which had a much smaller cast that mainly consisted of either criminals, Sith and Sith adjacent, and military. Another difference is that the High Republic is set during peace time where the prequels were set in wartime with said war deliberately design to ruin the Jedi’s reputation in the wider galaxy.
Even the number of Jedi we spent time with was limited. The main POV for the prequels was Anakin and he wanted the whole cake so of course he’s going to view the Jedi as being inflexible. Even then the argument he makes was that the Jedi should be willing to do more to win the war which as we saw with Quinlan Vos was a disaster. I would like to point out that one of these instances was with Tarkin who, you know, touted terror tactics and genocide via super laser. There comes a point when it’s no longer flexibility and for Force-users, not just Jedi, crossing that line is incredibly dangerous because of how corrupting the dark side is. It plays into why unless your an entity like the Bendu or the Father, you cannot be a “grey” Force-user because either you choose the light or the dark will make you a monster.
It’s fine to like the High Republic stuff more, I don’t blame you since they are closer to the kind of Jedi fans wanted to see when the Prequels were announced, but don’t use it to make bad faith arguments about the prequel Jedi who weren’t even the focus of the films in the first place. In fact if people were to ask me what I would recommend for Jedi centric stories, I would point them to the High Republic media and tell them to watch the movies last exactly because for someone who doesn’t have a background in mindfulness or a basic understanding of Buddhism, the High Republic’s exposition is incredibly useful.
I'm looking forward to reading this book.
Palpatine was truly an evil genius. The Clone Wars were designed as a perfect inescapeable trap for the Jedi because no matter what they did, they would be destroyed. Even if Anakin decided to kill Palpatine in Episode III and the Republic somehow believed the Jedi, the Order was still devastated. They lost thousands of members including the most experienced ones, the teenage Padawans spend years in brutal warfare which would greatly unbalance them and perhaps cause a wave of fallen Jedi in the future, the Jedi's reputation was in tatters etc.
I think it is also possible to both understand and sympathize with a character without agreeing with them. (After all, we have to do that in real life, and it is easier to learn and work on the skill with fiction.)
The faith and spirituality angle is how I related to the Obi-Wan Kenobi series as well as The Mandalorian and I think it will be a theme in the Ahsoka series as well. The characters are lost after a major crisis of faith (due to institutional dysfunction) and are both regaining it and figuring out how to make it work outside of the institutions that they came from. It was really relatable. Lonely, but relatable.
So excited for this book! I finished Phasma a week or so ago and really loved Dawson’s writing in it. Very curious what kind of prose this book will have! Phasma had an interesting blend of third person present tense / third person past tense as a narrative device, curious if this will do anything like that.
I’m quite eager to check this book out. Anything related to the Inquisitors always intrigues me.
I only want to know one thing: what’s Iskat’s inquisitor title? I’ve been calling her the Red Sister since the Vader comics
This is probably my most anticipated book of the year and the second I see that red blade on a shelf I am going to pounce on it, shut myself in my office and not come out till I've finished it 😂😂😂
Sold. Pre-ordered on Audible.
nice review. are you planning on doing an updated ranking of all the modern/disney era novels any time soon? i think its been a while. or are there too many now?
I gotta admit Im a little wary of this book's existence as, overall in the grand scheme, Ive been rather unimpressed with the Inquisitors as a whole. Am hopeful it'll be good.
If it’s as good as it sounds it will go a long way for me personally, since i’m in the same boat as not really digging them. Only got down with Grand and Trilla
I thought they were used well, more or less, in Rebels. Fallen Order also did a good job. They stoically feel like threats to our heroes, particularly the grand inquisitor and and Trila. Though even the two that replaced the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels usually had our heroes on the run, which was an important part of the story.
They didn’t come across well in Obi Wan though. They seemed overplayed, and kinda came across as a joke.
@@thedapperdolphin1590The Grand Inquisitor was menacing in the opening scene, the scene where Reva screams Owen in the face had me scared and where the Fifth Brother says "That seat...belongs to me.", I got chills. I agree however on Rebels. But honestly, Rebels had tons of bland and uninteresting characters, that I never got invested in.
I'm also sceptical about Inquisitor-stories, but honestly the Kenobi-series, Fallen Order and Visions has made them more interesting.
As a wise man once said "I love a woman who will just kill me."
May have misremembered but I'm sure it's practically the same.
I finished last night and really enjoyed it. I didn't love the epilogue, but had forgotten that came from the comic side of things until this video, so it bothers me less now.
I have only one question: do they reveal new inquisitors?
As far as a mature take on the Clone Wars, the Dark Horse comics did this exceptionally well and many of those stories could be canon without interfering with Disneys lore
Not many, TCW literally killed Dark Horse continuity before Disney existed.
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о a lot of the smaller stories would be fine. Plenty of ARC trooper tales, not a comic but Republic Commando, there’s definitely a bunch.
You've sold me time to add this to the stack
I'll wait until the book comes out and then judge when I read it in 2035, but the Askajian Jedi on Geonosis already made me nervous.
I do wonder what it was about some nameless Inquisitor from the comics that prompted a whole novel. I've already got my pre order in just because Dawson never disappoints but it does seem an odd choice
They probably chose her because it's an already existing Inquisitor that hints of a deeper story, but not much actually written about her. It gives a lot of freedom to explore this specific character in this pretty well-established time period and their role in the Inquistorius, while answering questions about the group as a whole.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say it was because she was a blank canvas. The Inquisitors are pretty cool as a concept but not many of the ones who've been featured more prominently have popped as that interesting individually. Ninth Sister, the 3 from Rebels, Reva...they are all rather meh. Trilla was great but Dawson might not have been able to use her for rights reasons or she just WANTED a fresh perspective. Prosset Dibs is cool & the Grand Inquisitor is cool, but I can see the reasoning for going with this relative unknown. Tales of the Jedi & the Ahsoka show created new ones...that could've worked too but it's nice to have even just that small bit of interconnectivity that using someone who actually pre-existed gets you.
If they picked a more famous inquisitor, the famous encounter might be somewhat of a distraction from the story. Or people will pick it up in the hopes it offers more Obi-Wan, Cal Kestis or Rebels.
I'll watch for this book
Always like when there are new Star Wars books. But i'm not interessteted in the book. And I want to finish Phase 1 of the High Republic first.
Hello. Audible shows me two versions of this books with the same time and price. What's the right one? Thank you.
Q&A: Who was the real mastermind behind The Plan, aka The Clone War, Darth Sidious or Darth Plagueis? Or, someone else?
I have wondered how so many Jedi fell to the dark side to form the Inquisitors.
I wouldn't say so many, ther is only like 10 inquisitors. So 10/10000 became inquisitors
Well that's just great. Thanks to your glowing review, now I have to secure a copy of the SDCC exclusive 😅 and since I'm not going to SDCC it's going to cost me 😂
Edit- just got my copy 😅
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Faith and spirituality can be great sources of strength; religion can be a dogmatic force for manipulation.
Niscat looks like a Sith Pureblood. Is she?
What about fun facts are you going to do another fun facts video please for this book
I am not a big reader, but this is totally a book I would pick up. Too bad I am done with Star Wars now. Its a few months too late.
Well, that seems like a you-problem.
@@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 Never claimed it was any one's problem.
@@Lonewolf0840 Well, if you're done with Star Wars now, that's more your own problem, I'd say.
@@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 I guess you're right, it is my problem. But it's not a problem for me. I am at peace with being done with Star Wars.
Is this a problem?
@@Lonewolf0840 You can live in peace with it, but if you don't want to read a book, you think would be cool, because you're done with Star Wars, I'm saying it's more your own problem then.
NGL you used "plot armor" a lot in this review which is just a term I hate, it's often used to demean or devalue stories and it get used a lot in prequel stories and characters like "Oh plot Armor alert". It's not a very good or objective term to be using IMO.
As good as it is to finally have some answers about the Inquisitors, I kinda wish it was saved for a bigger project. I just feel those reveals deserved more traction than they may get in this book. I do love that Dawson saw this one nameless character and went "I want to do her story".
That comment about "a mature take on the Clone Wars" really just rubbed me the wrong way. It felt like a bit of a dunk on TCW, I know the books tend to be dive deeper and be more mature anyway but the way you talked about it in the video just felt in bad taste to me as in "mature is inherently better" as if things like how the Jedi were forced to fight and change or lost people at Geonosis and how that changed them as an Order has never been touched on before when it absolutely has. As if we haven't seen that era through a mature lens before. Felt like a weird thing to say and it kinda annoyed me. It's just reminding me of the larger issue in the fandom atm. Nothing against the book itself in that regard. I'm sure that's exactly not how it's written. Just don't think it was presented very well in the review even if it was all to avoid spoiling the book's contents
Alex specifically mentioned that this more "mature" ground HAS been covered and IN TCW for that matter, so I'm sorry his comment rubbed you wrong but it seems misplaced in this case.
Also the term "plot armor" can irk me too. It definitely gets overused. But I think in a franchise like Star Wars that has multiple eras and characters that span decades in varying stories, it's very much fair use.
You can't write a story about clone wars era Anakin and have people be worried he's going to be killed. Because pretty much any fan knows he has to live to become Vader. Yes, there are other ways you can create drama with the character, but it's not open-ended. You know he's safe from certain developments already. New characters whose fates we don't know just don't have that.
Nah. You're the one who is _HIGH (ON YO' OWN SUPPLY) REPUBLIC_
If it's TCW does it mention Sev'rance
I never understood the Jedi as a religion. Force users feel the Force in a palpable, material way. If you use the Force, you will see an immediate reaction. Religion is worthless without faith, you're supposed to BELIEVE even if you don't get immediate reactions or answers from your prayers and such.
According to some people god is very active in their life, actively helping out. To them religion is about a relationship rather that belief.
Within the Star Wars universe the everyday people are not connected to the force, they haven’t seen Jedi doing their thing. Even if they did see Jedi in action, something like the will of the force or the dark and lightside might be more of a belief/faith thing.
@@Bas-TB What you are describing is subjective, you can "believe" God "helps" you but there is no physical evidence for this. The Force has a physical, biological (midichlorians, for example), and therefore objective effect on the Galaxy.
People don't have to "believe" in the Force. The Force is in everyone. As Yoda says, "life creates it." There are many people and cultures outside of the Jedi who interact with the Force in a variety of ways. Plus, the Jedi don't come out of nowhere, they look out to find people throughout the Galaxy who are able to actively use the Force.
@@reymafias6404 Most people in the Star Wars universe are not that familiar with the force, Han Solo for example:
“Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other; I've seen a lot of strange stuff. But I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything.” So he is rightfully skeptical towards the existence of the force. If with his experience he would be convinced about the existence of the force wouldn’t that be faith/belief.
I had people telling me that no matter if I believe, god is real and is the creator of everything. So I am either like Han Solo missing the experience or denying the experience. In their very subjective opinion they have their religion because it is the reality.
The force as a religion is probably also based the force being more than just a natural energy field some are lucky enough to be able to draw from or are able to manipulate it. But that it has a darkside and a lightside, or that it has something like opinions/goals or that you can treat it right or wrong.
What an odd title for a Star Wars book.