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You're talking BS, them ovie trully is good, you only prove here is that movie specialists and critics like you suck. Screw you're precious Oscar winning boring and lame movies like Joker from 2019. Screw your stupid overrated overhating based on over exaggerations and distorted facts. You're kinds, the so called "true hardcore fans of pop culture" only proves the real problem here is you. You distort, corrupt and spread half truths and lies. The movie is not disappointing or a disaster, you are the ones who overrate and overhate over the most pathetic and stupidest things EVER. I rather have this movie then any overrated crap that you call "cinema". Like Wild robot or Wicked. Its cause of you're pathetic overhating that pop culture sucks and pratically died. Your standards for what constitutes a perfect film or a good script are a pain, always overestimating or creating rules for what can be considered a good film or not. The movie trully is good, the first is overrated, and you are a bunch of liers.
They didn't lied anything, it seems that you saw it with the greatest of unwillingness "just because it was supposed to be a series", that doesn't take away from the merits that this film has, and technical mode is more of a justification for setting standards and rules. It's no wonder that people, the people, hate critics. The film wasn't flawed in the slightest, it had striking songs, good antagonists, charismatic characters, they developed Moana and Maui very well, a great evolution in them and natural fluidity. The film is good not because of an ending but the entire journey is very well done. Getting upset because "it was supposed to be a series" is one of the most overrated, superficial, lazy and ridiculous criticisms I've seen EVER. The sequel does not always have this obligation to surpass the first film. Like Frozen. It doesn't matter how many sequences you have. People will always say that the first film is better because of nostalgia. Just because it was originally going to be a series doesn't harm my experience or that of the vast majority who are loving it. Critics and experts who are just boring. And I would even say in most cases hypocritical in several areas and aspects. There may be as many best sellers, studies, post-writing, whatever, that doesn't make this sequel disappointing, bad, or inferior to the first film, it just gives an even more distorted image that moviegoers are boring. Don't you understand? Defaming, devaluing, undervaluing or inferiorizing a film or sequence that is really good just because of "technical details" only divides and even harms everyone, with consequences like indirectly causing the death of cinema by taking away the fun, experience and killing the fun just because such a work did not meet these crude requirements to be considered by the ridiculous standards imposed by you of what is truly a good sequel, remake, live-action, series, anime, or film. Screw the structure or technical part, in the end most people don't care about that and just want to see something they like. I miss the time when concepts like cinephiles and nerdolas didn't even exist. Has pop culture always been divided like this? Yes, it always has been and maybe it always will be until God only knows when. But you guys aren't helping either. I'm really sorry, I have no intention of disrespecting you, or anyone else, or anyone who does this profession, but I disagree with all my strength about this unfair attitude that these critics have been adopting lately. With reviews and videos like that, why would people want to continue watching films or animations if for "experts" if it's not "technically perfect" then it can't even be considered a good film or one of the best?
The fact that Moana 2 was originally meant to be a TV show is giving me flashbacks to those Disney direct-to-video "movies" that have three episodes in them. Belle's Magical World, Atlantis: Milo's Return, etc.
They shouldn't have marketed Matangi as a villain because she's not. She's a chaos goddess stuck in a Megura-like deal with Nalo. Which, I'm personally interested to see where that goes in Moana 3, but yeah, Disney should've kept their mouths shut.
Disney really thought "Let's stitch these tv show episodes into a movie. That worked out great last time, right?" I never thought direct to dvd sequel style Disney films would return.
Well, at least Tamatoa's back. There are other parts I like. "Beyond" and "Get Lost" are good songs, and Matangi is still a pretty fun character who just got screwed over by the marketing, but overall, this definitely should've stayed a Disney Plus series instead of being stitched together into a movie.
What I really don't get is why they made Moana a demigoddess at the end, and then not have her show off any sort of powers. It's like Disney was deliberately trying to be vague because they thought people would call it a cop out. Even though she totally earned it.
Although i admit that they were a bit vague about it, they actually do show and hint at her demi-god powers during the reprise song of “Beyond” and the ending song “We Know The Way”. It’s very subtle but you can actually see her manipulate the water she touches with her oar to help Maui raise the island from the ocean. At the end you can see her guide the people/boat crew by putting her oar in the water, creating an illuminated “pathway” in the ocean. :)
I haven't watched the movie so I don't know if they did this, but here are my ideas for the side characters: Loto: As the craftswoman of the group, it would be cool if she used different gadgets she invents to help the gang, and over the course of the seiries have her upgrade the ship in order for them to survive more dangerous waters. Moni: Aside from being a fan of Maui, I would like him to play a role as someone who can decipher acient text that can help the gang reach the different islands as well as the mysteries surrounding their history using a combination of oral history and ancient carvings. Kele: As a farmer, it would be cool if he can identify which plants are safe to eat, how to perserve them, as well as as which plants can be used for medicinal purposes. So that also makes him the crews doctor.
26:15 **SPOILERS** You can actually see that when she touches the water with her oar that it changes the course of the water she has touched with this yellow/golden “glitter”, helping Maui to lift the island up through water manipulation (you can see a short scene of Maui noticing the weight of the mountain becoming lighter due to the ocean helping to raise the mountain higher.) You see Maui look back at it and smile, knowing that Moana was right all along when she said “We have to come together as a team” the first time she tries to convince him to help them break the curse when they were going through the Portal of Gods. At the end of the movie, during the final song you get to see the same glitter coming from her oar when she touches the water again, this time illuminating a “pathway” through the ocean. So i believe her demi-god powers may have something to do with “way finding” and “water manipulation”, given that her name translates to “Ocean” and her close bond with the Ocean.
Disney's deflecting like crazy. They don't want villains in their movies because they see themselves in them. It's a self-destructive spiral downwards.
Which is ironic since they justify DEI hiring & characters as needing to "see myself" or "be seen." They treat real and fictional people like mirrors, but a more accurate reflection would be akin to a classic villain.
We need to petition Disney *hard* for Moana 3 to be a Tomatoa-focused prequel. Like how Puss in Boots got his own franchise, except this will be about a big mean crab with golden vocal cords
Biggest problem for me is that this movie didn't have stakes. There isn't a drive or reason for them to have to speedrun to the island and the big bad. There isn't a deadline they have to beat before bad things happen. The first movie had stakes because moana HAD to restore the heart to save her island from dying. If they fail here, nothing happens. They can just try again. They could potentially take years to break the curse. i think they needed something to make it more urgent (her vision of her empty island doesn't do it for me. I wish they'd expanded that to show WHY it would kill them after 1000 years of isolation without issue)
Going to see it tomorrow. As excited as i am to see it, i totally understand where everyone is going with this. Because it was originally intended to be a series for Disney+ which honestly, yeah it should've been.
I hate the fact that Moana literally had no character development in the entire movie. They had a great opportunity to make her have an arc about leadership, seeing as she had a crew, but nah apparently the first movie was enough.
Moana was hugely popular - popular enough for them to consider a series. But instead of making a long-running story and creating a franchise with a story that can run for months, Disney does the cheap thing, and goes for a quick buck at the theatre just because they can't stand not having a Christmas movie.
This movie was so obviously 3 episodes of that disney plus series stitched together. I guess since Wish flopped so hard, they needed another money machine quick. Outside of the movie being mid at best, the production saw Disney pretty much take advantage of un-unionized animators in a outsourced studio. I really hope this movie flops so that Disney doesnt get comfortable with these pretty awful production practices
They didn't lied anything, it seems that you saw it with the greatest of unwillingness "just because it was supposed to be a series", that doesn't take away from the merits that this film has, and technical mode is more of a justification for setting standards and rules. It's no wonder that people, the people, hate critics. The film wasn't flawed in the slightest, it had striking songs, good antagonists, charismatic characters, they developed Moana and Maui very well, a great evolution in them and natural fluidity. The film is good not because of an ending but the entire journey is very well done. Getting upset because "it was supposed to be a series" is one of the most overrated, superficial, lazy and ridiculous criticisms I've seen EVER. The sequel does not always have this obligation to surpass the first film. Like Frozen. It doesn't matter how many sequences you have. People will always say that the first film is better because of nostalgia. Just because it was originally going to be a series doesn't harm my experience or that of the vast majority who are loving it. Critics and experts who are just boring. And I would even say in most cases hypocritical in several areas and aspects. There may be as many best sellers, studies, post-writing, whatever, that doesn't make this sequel disappointing, bad, or inferior to the first film, it just gives an even more distorted image that moviegoers are boring. Don't you understand? Defaming, devaluing, undervaluing or inferiorizing a film or sequence that is really good just because of "technical details" only divides and even harms everyone, with consequences like indirectly causing the death of cinema by taking away the fun, experience and killing the fun just because such a work did not meet these crude requirements to be considered by the ridiculous standards imposed by you of what is truly a good sequel, remake, live-action, series, anime, or film. Screw the structure or technical part, in the end most people don't care about that and just want to see something they like. I miss the time when concepts like cinephiles and nerdolas didn't even exist. Has pop culture always been divided like this? Yes, it always has been and maybe it always will be until God only knows when. But you guys aren't helping either. I'm really sorry, I have no intention of disrespecting you, or anyone else, or anyone who does this profession, but I disagree with all my strength about this unfair attitude that these critics have been adopting lately. With reviews and videos like that, why would people want to continue watching films or animations if for "experts" if it's not "technically perfect" then it can't even be considered a good film or one of the best?
Here’s how I would have wrote it: Just have Moana and Maui go on a journey to stop Maui’s biological parents from taking over the sea. BOOM! Just Wrote a better plot in a minute than Disney could in several months.
it felt incredibly rushed imo. the journey felt like it was going way too fast. same with any character development. the songs were way too "pop" for me. the first movie had more of a broadway feel, with some pop sprinkled in. and the rapping parts just didnt hit. you could feel the absence of lin-manuel miranda. and dwayne couldnt rap in maui's song lol. im sorry, but it was terrible lol
@KlumzInDaHouse yeah! dwayne did awesome in "you're welcome" he had a nice rhythm. it went from slow to fast in a nice way. i also think that it was a good choice that maui was the only one that rapped in the first movie. while i also didnt really like matangi's song (was also too "pop" for me, and i didnt really appreciate all of the random riffs [like, one would have been nice], at least her voice actress could do it lol
I've never been so disappointed in a sequel, this and megamind 2 are useless coz in Moana2, Moana fighting a cloud as protagonist lol please. What's next fighting the mountain next
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You're talking BS, them ovie trully is good, you only prove here is that movie specialists and critics like you suck. Screw you're precious Oscar winning boring and lame movies like Joker from 2019. Screw your stupid overrated overhating based on over exaggerations and distorted facts. You're kinds, the so called "true hardcore fans of pop culture" only proves the real problem here is you. You distort, corrupt and spread half truths and lies. The movie is not disappointing or a disaster, you are the ones who overrate and overhate over the most pathetic and stupidest things EVER. I rather have this movie then any overrated crap that you call "cinema". Like Wild robot or Wicked. Its cause of you're pathetic overhating that pop culture sucks and pratically died. Your standards for what constitutes a perfect film or a good script are a pain, always overestimating or creating rules for what can be considered a good film or not. The movie trully is good, the first is overrated, and you are a bunch of liers.
They didn't lied anything, it seems that you saw it with the greatest of unwillingness "just because it was supposed to be a series", that doesn't take away from the merits that this film has, and technical mode is more of a justification for setting standards and rules. It's no wonder that people, the people, hate critics. The film wasn't flawed in the slightest, it had striking songs, good antagonists, charismatic characters, they developed Moana and Maui very well, a great evolution in them and natural fluidity. The film is good not because of an ending but the entire journey is very well done. Getting upset because "it was supposed to be a series" is one of the most overrated, superficial, lazy and ridiculous criticisms I've seen EVER. The sequel does not always have this obligation to surpass the first film. Like Frozen. It doesn't matter how many sequences you have. People will always say that the first film is better because of nostalgia. Just because it was originally going to be a series doesn't harm my experience or that of the vast majority who are loving it. Critics and experts who are just boring. And I would even say in most cases hypocritical in several areas and aspects. There may be as many best sellers, studies, post-writing, whatever, that doesn't make this sequel disappointing, bad, or inferior to the first film, it just gives an even more distorted image that moviegoers are boring. Don't you understand? Defaming, devaluing, undervaluing or inferiorizing a film or sequence that is really good just because of "technical details" only divides and even harms everyone, with consequences like indirectly causing the death of cinema by taking away the fun, experience and killing the fun just because such a work did not meet these crude requirements to be considered by the ridiculous standards imposed by you of what is truly a good sequel, remake, live-action, series, anime, or film. Screw the structure or technical part, in the end most people don't care about that and just want to see something they like. I miss the time when concepts like cinephiles and nerdolas didn't even exist. Has pop culture always been divided like this? Yes, it always has been and maybe it always will be until God only knows when. But you guys aren't helping either. I'm really sorry, I have no intention of disrespecting you, or anyone else, or anyone who does this profession, but I disagree with all my strength about this unfair attitude that these critics have been adopting lately. With reviews and videos like that, why would people want to continue watching films or animations if for "experts" if it's not "technically perfect" then it can't even be considered a good film or one of the best?
The fact that Moana 2 was originally meant to be a TV show is giving me flashbacks to those Disney direct-to-video "movies" that have three episodes in them. Belle's Magical World, Atlantis: Milo's Return, etc.
*direct-to-dvd
I can at least defend the fact that they were direct to video and not in theaters...I'll give them credit for that at least
@@Mrr-Rhettt video....there were tons of video and dvd
Cinderella 2 also had three story which meh… at least the third one was better.
They shouldn't have marketed Matangi as a villain because she's not. She's a chaos goddess stuck in a Megura-like deal with Nalo. Which, I'm personally interested to see where that goes in Moana 3, but yeah, Disney should've kept their mouths shut.
Moana 3 might be straight to Disney Plus after this miss
Disney really thought "Let's stitch these tv show episodes into a movie. That worked out great last time, right?" I never thought direct to dvd sequel style Disney films would return.
To be honest they never left
4 root comments on one video. And I’ve also seen you do this on other Moana 2 videos.
Are you ok?
Well, at least Tamatoa's back. There are other parts I like. "Beyond" and "Get Lost" are good songs, and Matangi is still a pretty fun character who just got screwed over by the marketing, but overall, this definitely should've stayed a Disney Plus series instead of being stitched together into a movie.
A villian?! That exists or is good?!
Nuh uh!
- Disney nowadays
What I really don't get is why they made Moana a demigoddess at the end, and then not have her show off any sort of powers. It's like Disney was deliberately trying to be vague because they thought people would call it a cop out. Even though she totally earned it.
Although i admit that they were a bit vague about it, they actually do show and hint at her demi-god powers during the reprise song of “Beyond” and the ending song “We Know The Way”. It’s very subtle but you can actually see her manipulate the water she touches with her oar to help Maui raise the island from the ocean. At the end you can see her guide the people/boat crew by putting her oar in the water, creating an illuminated “pathway” in the ocean. :)
I haven't watched the movie so I don't know if they did this, but here are my ideas for the side characters:
Loto: As the craftswoman of the group, it would be cool if she used different gadgets she invents to help the gang, and over the course of the seiries have her upgrade the ship in order for them to survive more dangerous waters.
Moni: Aside from being a fan of Maui, I would like him to play a role as someone who can decipher acient text that can help the gang reach the different islands as well as the mysteries surrounding their history using a combination of oral history and ancient carvings.
Kele: As a farmer, it would be cool if he can identify which plants are safe to eat, how to perserve them, as well as as which plants can be used for medicinal purposes. So that also makes him the crews doctor.
26:15 **SPOILERS**
You can actually see that when she touches the water with her oar that it changes the course of the water she has touched with this yellow/golden “glitter”, helping Maui to lift the island up through water manipulation (you can see a short scene of Maui noticing the weight of the mountain becoming lighter due to the ocean helping to raise the mountain higher.) You see Maui look back at it and smile, knowing that Moana was right all along when she said “We have to come together as a team” the first time she tries to convince him to help them break the curse when they were going through the Portal of Gods.
At the end of the movie, during the final song you get to see the same glitter coming from her oar when she touches the water again, this time illuminating a “pathway” through the ocean. So i believe her demi-god powers may have something to do with “way finding” and “water manipulation”, given that her name translates to “Ocean” and her close bond with the Ocean.
Disney's deflecting like crazy. They don't want villains in their movies because they see themselves in them. It's a self-destructive spiral downwards.
Lorax all over again
Which is ironic since they justify DEI hiring & characters as needing to "see myself" or "be seen." They treat real and fictional people like mirrors, but a more accurate reflection would be akin to a classic villain.
Business wise I'm sure they're making all their recent villains have sad backstories in order to sell more toys
@@megamegaO Yet villains like Death and Jack Horner still outdo all of them
We need to petition Disney *hard* for Moana 3 to be a Tomatoa-focused prequel. Like how Puss in Boots got his own franchise, except this will be about a big mean crab with golden vocal cords
Biggest problem for me is that this movie didn't have stakes. There isn't a drive or reason for them to have to speedrun to the island and the big bad. There isn't a deadline they have to beat before bad things happen. The first movie had stakes because moana HAD to restore the heart to save her island from dying.
If they fail here, nothing happens. They can just try again. They could potentially take years to break the curse. i think they needed something to make it more urgent (her vision of her empty island doesn't do it for me. I wish they'd expanded that to show WHY it would kill them after 1000 years of isolation without issue)
I went to see this movie with my friends. The cinema was almost empty lol
it‘s world wide breaking records…very likely 300-400 mio in 5 days worldwide
Fr? I would have assumed families would have been duped to see it
@@tillm2481not bad for a didn't plus show
Going to see it tomorrow. As excited as i am to see it, i totally understand where everyone is going with this. Because it was originally intended to be a series for Disney+ which honestly, yeah it should've been.
this leads me to believe what did we expect from disney anymore?
I hate the fact that Moana literally had no character development in the entire movie. They had a great opportunity to make her have an arc about leadership, seeing as she had a crew, but nah apparently the first movie was enough.
Moana was hugely popular - popular enough for them to consider a series. But instead of making a long-running story and creating a franchise with a story that can run for months, Disney does the cheap thing, and goes for a quick buck at the theatre just because they can't stand not having a Christmas movie.
This movie was so obviously 3 episodes of that disney plus series stitched together. I guess since Wish flopped so hard, they needed another money machine quick. Outside of the movie being mid at best, the production saw Disney pretty much take advantage of un-unionized animators in a outsourced studio. I really hope this movie flops so that Disney doesnt get comfortable with these pretty awful production practices
This does have a lot of potenial.. if it was a TV series. But still better than Spellbound
Few months before this movie came out, Jared Bush became the new Disney Animation CCO replacing Jennifer Lee
It was a fine movie, but a bad sequel. Also, the only decent song was the bat lady’s song. The rest were so bad it was laughable.
They didn't lied anything, it seems that you saw it with the greatest of unwillingness "just because it was supposed to be a series", that doesn't take away from the merits that this film has, and technical mode is more of a justification for setting standards and rules. It's no wonder that people, the people, hate critics. The film wasn't flawed in the slightest, it had striking songs, good antagonists, charismatic characters, they developed Moana and Maui very well, a great evolution in them and natural fluidity. The film is good not because of an ending but the entire journey is very well done. Getting upset because "it was supposed to be a series" is one of the most overrated, superficial, lazy and ridiculous criticisms I've seen EVER. The sequel does not always have this obligation to surpass the first film. Like Frozen. It doesn't matter how many sequences you have. People will always say that the first film is better because of nostalgia. Just because it was originally going to be a series doesn't harm my experience or that of the vast majority who are loving it. Critics and experts who are just boring. And I would even say in most cases hypocritical in several areas and aspects. There may be as many best sellers, studies, post-writing, whatever, that doesn't make this sequel disappointing, bad, or inferior to the first film, it just gives an even more distorted image that moviegoers are boring. Don't you understand? Defaming, devaluing, undervaluing or inferiorizing a film or sequence that is really good just because of "technical details" only divides and even harms everyone, with consequences like indirectly causing the death of cinema by taking away the fun, experience and killing the fun just because such a work did not meet these crude requirements to be considered by the ridiculous standards imposed by you of what is truly a good sequel, remake, live-action, series, anime, or film. Screw the structure or technical part, in the end most people don't care about that and just want to see something they like. I miss the time when concepts like cinephiles and nerdolas didn't even exist. Has pop culture always been divided like this? Yes, it always has been and maybe it always will be until God only knows when. But you guys aren't helping either. I'm really sorry, I have no intention of disrespecting you, or anyone else, or anyone who does this profession, but I disagree with all my strength about this unfair attitude that these critics have been adopting lately. With reviews and videos like that, why would people want to continue watching films or animations if for "experts" if it's not "technically perfect" then it can't even be considered a good film or one of the best?
Here’s how I would have wrote it: Just have Moana and Maui go on a journey to stop Maui’s biological parents from taking over the sea. BOOM! Just Wrote a better plot in a minute than Disney could in several months.
Disney: you're hired!
Moana 2 should have stayed a Disney plus show
I think they might want to do something with the villain in another film, or maybe they’re going to make a series all about her.
The fact i got a moana 2 movie ad 💀
I honestly think that simea was a bit unnecessary 😕 😐 🙄 but I still love Moana ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ and rest of the new characters 🎉🎉🎉😂😂👌👌👌
it felt incredibly rushed imo. the journey felt like it was going way too fast. same with any character development. the songs were way too "pop" for me. the first movie had more of a broadway feel, with some pop sprinkled in. and the rapping parts just didnt hit. you could feel the absence of lin-manuel miranda. and dwayne couldnt rap in maui's song lol. im sorry, but it was terrible lol
yea the rapping part felt so awkward and forced and it just didn't flow as well as the "you're welcome" rap.
@KlumzInDaHouse yeah! dwayne did awesome in "you're welcome" he had a nice rhythm. it went from slow to fast in a nice way. i also think that it was a good choice that maui was the only one that rapped in the first movie. while i also didnt really like matangi's song (was also too "pop" for me, and i didnt really appreciate all of the random riffs [like, one would have been nice], at least her voice actress could do it lol
@@Chibi_Mercury “You’re welcome” will always be his best song.
This video should be called "Disney's TERRIBLE Moana 2" imo
Should've been a tv series
I got to see the movie yesterday and the movie was pretty good
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I’m scared for moana two☹️ I hope they don’t ruin moana (when I watch it)
i thought it wasn't that bad but i think zootopia 2 will be better
I REALLY LIKED MOANA 2 ITS FUN AND IT MADE ME LAFH NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO PROGRESS THE STORY 😁
Here’s hoping for zootopia 2
Spoilers:
So is Moana a demi god now? Because she literally 💀 and got a tattoo
It didn't really explain it
@@LemonmidnightYeah, it sounded like Maui was going to say she’s a demigod but instead he says his tattoos are still better than hers lol.
same thing i was thinking, probably disney trying to be purposefully vague about it or smth idk.
What a shame I wanted to go see that movie but since it's supposedly mid idk if I should go to the theaters
I love the movie
You know what else is massive?
Why
Wth did I just say omg
day 34 of every time dazz uploads asking him to review "meet the robinsons"
I've never been so disappointed in a sequel, this and megamind 2 are useless coz in Moana2,
Moana fighting a cloud as protagonist lol please. What's next fighting the mountain next
Well it was originally a Disney plus show...sooo
wow
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Once again, I 100 percent disagree. I saw Moana 2 with a friend and Wednesday, and it was a fantastic sequel he is wrong
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Lol
W vid Dazz
1st moment omg
First, well more like second