The Atem Mini Killer? | Osee GoStream Deck
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- The Osee GoStream has been an absolute game changer for entry level live stream and switchers, and game changer is a word I don't throw around lightly.
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I used to sell video broadcast studio equipment back in the late 70's. A roughly equivalent system to the Osee GoStream would have been the size of 2 big refrigerators, weigh over 800 lbs., require 240V @ 50 amps and cost more than $1.5 million today. The Osee GoStream can actually do what a major network broadcast studio could do in 1978 and the video quality (1280x720) is much better than 1978 broadcast (640x480) quality.
That’s insane!!!!!
Wow! 😮
We have a system that was installed by an integrator in 2012 and it controlled all of our projectors and motorized screens and was a video switcher and the rack space for just that equipment is still huge
Have been using Black Magic switchers for over 10 years now. Started with the ATEM-TVS. The last ATEM I purchased is the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO/SDI.
I got new GoStream Deck from a customer who owed me for lost equipment about 2 months ago.
So far it has preformed very well for small productions. I agree, it does greatly out class a base ATEM Mini. After that model however, not so much.
Coming from the ATEM world, I wish it had an option for software control. That would be a very cool upgrade.
But going forward, this will be my goto mixer for small run and gun projects.
Nice video. FYI, ATEM Mini can also mute audio on Fade to Black (FTB). This is settable-I thought it was actually on by default-in the Audio tab of the ATEM Software Control… it's the AFV button on the master fader
Thank you so much, really appreciate it! Actually didn't know that about the atem mini, good to know!
I ordered the ATEM MINI PRO...it arrived and this video came on my timeline (sigh)...so of course i have processed a return in the morning and will also be ordering the Osee GoStream Deck HDMI Pro
You won’t be sorry!!! 👌
The best review I have seen in a long while. Your personality comes through
Thank you so much 🙏 really appreciate the kind words. Always try and make epic reviews that have real world use so people can relate.
@@RICH_Photography I bought one and got it today. Thank you
Wow, your review of this device is fantastic! The in-depth comparison to similar devices is especially valuable for anyone considering to get it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience - it is exactly what makes your review to truly stand out.
You're so welcome, thank you for the kind words, really wanted to make this in-depth with the understanding :) so glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the video. I will definitely be starting to do a weekly review. Love Todoist and have been using it for years, and I love how it has been growing and improving.
Thanks for the great review. Looks like they studied the Atem and Roland products and really added all of the features that are needed for improvement. Like a headphone jack and being able to play media files! Great product for $295. I really like my Roland V-1HD+ (with the similar T-bar) but this is quite a feature packed device.
Definitely, they did their homework, spoke to users and came in hot with something people want and need.
Super happy for Osee, and their continued support and what they still doing is amazing.
I definitely will be checking it out at NAB 2024
This video is as well thought out and impressive as the content reviewed!
Thank you so much, really appreciate the kind words.
I am looking for our local church. This product seems like it could be extremely useful. Thank you for all the helpful information!
I picked one up to try it out and I’m pretty impressed with it. I think the ATEM is useful if you are using Blackmagic design cameras. The camera control features are useful and I actually like the audio mixing software in the ATEM control software. However, I think for the average user, the Osee is probably the right choice. I can see it being useful to churches, and small town governments to provide a nice affordable streaming and recording system. I didn’t know you could record and playback video at the same time. That is a feature I need to try out.
Glad you love it!
Definitely agree that BM cameras with the atem is pretty cool. But there’s very few creatives rolling around with 3 or 4 BM cameras.
I think Osee is going to pull an even bigger lead with more and more updates in the future.
100% this definitely replaces the base-level ATEM and certainly gives the Pro a run for it's money. I think there is still a place for the ISO and definitely for the SDI Atems. I would love to see a full NDI version of this. It would be great with the PTZoptic cameras for longer runs.@@RICH_Photography
I ordered one of these. I've always been lurking around the Atem Mini Pro Extreme, mainly for the HDMI Output, a little for the super source and the audio output, but actually never for far too many tiny buttons and also never for additional channels. I always said, I wish my Atem Mini Pro ISO hat an HDMI output. Let's see if the GoStream Deck can compete in terms of reliability. Btw, when the Atem Mini Pro was new, it wasn't all that perfect. I destroyed one just by a firmware update, and the HDMI out of another died over time (I now use only fibre HDMI cables, as this voltage spillover on the ground wires from cheap power supplies might be a common problem with cameras and switchers).
Sounds awesome. Disappointed that there’s no 4k in or out. ATEM is still at 1080p as well. 😢
4K would be amazing, but like I’ve commented here before…MOST countries will never have the data/speed capacity to live stream 4K.
Also at a price of $295 we definitely won’t see 4K devices.
But maybe Osee is listening and they’ll have a new device in the future for the 4k guys.
That’s the key, the sale price. 4k would kick it up significantly.
If it use for church stream, 720 is enough..the important is the audio and you can see the slides or the members
RGBlink mini-edge can support 4k input, available in AMZN
Thank you. I’ve been waiting for something like this. Tell me, can you program lower thirds from your SD card easily with this? Thanks again for the great review!
You’re welcome 🙏
It’s insanely easy, here’s the basic steps.
- make your lower thirds on a clear background PNG.
- load them onto the SD card in images folder.
- then you can load them into the still generator.
Then what I have done is use my macros/memories to save them as a simple DSK (down stream key).
Use the source as “still 1” or whatever number still, the key as “still 1 key”
Really simple. Took me about 3 minutes to set up all 4 of my common lower thirds I use into my memories/macros.
Very good video, you did a great job selling it to me. Sadly out of stock in the UK, those swines must have seen your video before me. 😂😂
Amazing how technology today has broken down or compressed all big studio equipments to something small but still produces the same operational results. Wow!.
Amazing device. Thanks for sharing.
I don't know if this came with a recent update, but the switch brightness on Atem Mini Pro can be set via setup software
Thanks for letting me know, really didn’t know it was even possible. Also I don’t like updating my Atem, because the additional updates never add amazing new features that make the risk to reward worthwhile.
What audio device are you using? Hollyland lark? That round thing on your shirt?
Yes it’s the Lark M2 😁
love this. but does osee gostream gets that heated up like bmd mini usually would do in the course of production?
I’m really glad I found your video! Does Osee Gostream record ISO’s like the mini where it’ll keep a recording of each individual camera as well?
Nail bite
No it doesn’t record ISO, perhaps in the near future Osee will release another version that does record ISO.
I can Connect favourite NDI program or device such as Caspar CG, NewBlue Titler, Adobe CC and many more?
hi guys... can we use one of the usb C as another output? this is for use during events when they have a comfort tv monitor for the presenter on stage
I am very new to video production. Currently I set up large boxing/UFC events with a lot of moving heads. The last event we got a few projectors and used the computer hdmi out and fed the projectors. It worked great. The question I have is can I use the output from this video switcher to a HDMI splitter and feed multiple projectors ? Or is something else needed? If so how or what is needed...Thanks
This looks like a good alternative to the base model atem, definitely doesn't compare to any of the other models though.
Looks very impressive. Can you use one of the USB ports to stream from your mobile phone? If so, can you set Ethernet as priority and mobile as backup (which will switch back to Ethernet once connection remade)?
It’s an amazing device.
Unfortunately not, 1 USB C port is for your PTZ or webcam. The other is for a computer, so if you sending it to OBS etc.
Wow nice find! Need to this kind of device now! Its work great for a long day of streaming? The Atem Mini seem to over heat over time and I have some weird "bug" with the device some time.
The setting and configuration you did will be safe after a shutdown? On SD card?
Last question, can you program "Stinger" on this? (If it could, this could be near to perfection for everything)
Thanks for this good video.
Yes Ive streamed with it for quite some time. These do get hot like most switchers, but keeping it elevated and not standing in the sun will keep it going. No idea what a stinger is lol sorry, maybe an explanation will help my brain remember.
Great video, would this be able to except the Pocket 3 via the usb c?
The hat is awesome.
Only 1080p 😔
This actually seems like a better deal than the atem :O
A far better deal, even if it was a bit more expensive it would be better, the fact it’s the same price as the Atem Mini Pro at its reduced price is a no brainer.
Besides the mixed (edited output) does it record the individual cameras (inputs) ? Thank You!
No, what you looking for is an ISO device. Some stream decks can do ISO recording. Essentially recording each camera/input separately.
Personally I prefer to record each angle on each camera.
If my live edit is perfect, I just wipe the camera cards after the job. If I need a camera angle then I know which camera to pull it from.
Ok I am supper new to all this stuff. I am looking for a switcher for my podcast and am hoping this will work with my Rhode Caster 2 and all four of my mics. The show will be recorded and edited then put out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, really grate video. Can someone suggest me some switcher that supports 4K HDR streeming to youtube?
Looks good, i saw it on eBay while checking out Atem Mini pro and your review is quite detailed and helpful.
If u got it right, my only worry is that you can't have software access on a computer to configure the GoStream.
Thank you, really appreciate it. Currently there is no computer software but I do believe Osee is looking into software for a computer.
With all their updates and future planning on their Stream Decks, they definitely a brand that will be pushing and listening to their users.
Can you stream live to multiple social media platforms at once with this?
Yes to 3 different platforms
At the moment we are looking for a Switcher for Livestreams of competitions. Will i be able to put a specific png Overlay over Camera 1 and another over Camera 2 and with activating Camera 2 to the prieview or live automatically having the wanted Overlay shown in Live ? Otherwise i might have to continue with OBS and the Scenes.
Does this Osee capable of stream both upstream still using the green screen, and simultaneously using the downstream key for lower thirds?
Yes you can combine both DSK and upstream key at the same time.
Do the inputs autoscale?
1080 is all good yes but We need 4k and higher
RGBlink mini-edge can support 4k input, available in AMZN
I have not heard mention 25 frames (PAL) for us who live in the United Kingdom
It has 25p 😉
So if Im sending a stereo signal from the camera via hdmi, could i control them separably on the switcher? also are you able to send a multi view to a different software like vmix?
If this had 6+ inputs and a "super source" as the ATEM Extreme calls it this would be AWESOME.
It does have a super source…also I’m pretty sure Osee will work on a bigger switcher. Technically this is 5 inputs, but you can never have enough inputs lol
I have an original ATEM switcher you can patch usb in as 5th source so I can switch up to 8 inputs... granted a bit trickier to switch using 2 different decks. Facebook user group user already used it... I still can’t believe I can playback and record video on same card. Crazy.
Can the Osee GoStream Deck record ISO's from the HDMI camera feeds?
No unfortunately it doesn’t. Also at the $295 price point nothing will record ISO.
I’m sure Osee will work on a bigger switcher with ISO recording but it will definitely cost a lot more.
@@RICH_Photography Thanks for your response. It's still a great piece of kit. Currently researching podcasts and came across this video. Subbed to your channel and look forward to more.
@filmguy35 you’re welcome! Thanks for the support on your search 🙌
I just want the easiest hardware/software to make multicam videos. Them ATEM ISO works
make it 4K and I'm sold
Pretty sure Osee would be the guys to bring out a 4K device.
To be honest, 4K ISO recording with even the ability to just stream HD is the perfect device.
RGBlink mini-edge can support 4k input, available in AMZN
Do u need a laptop to connect this? Or livestreming can be done direct with the video camera?
No you don’t need a laptop, once your camera is plugged in HDMI to the GoStream and your GoStream is connected to the internet, you can go live with your TH-cam or Facebook stream key (or whichever platform you need).
Unlike the Atem you don’t need computer software.
All you need is to push the GO LIVE button on TH-cam which you could even do on your phone.
Kind of a dead end. with no SDI version, but thanks for showing options. Choice is a good thing!
SDI you say…Osee never disappoints, watch this space 😉🤫
@@RICH_Photography OK Rich, I'll take the bait! I hit the subscribe button, so I'll be watching! I do VERY MUCH like that this Osee HDMI unit doesn't rely on external software or phone apps to access full setup and functionality options -- it seems to have a lot of nice ergonomic features that speak to my extensive live and broadcast experience. Fair warning though that if amazing Osee SDI options don't appear soon I may have to go ahead with my Atem Extreme SDI plans. It will still be a tough sell given my GREAT respect for all my Black Magic hardware, software and support experiences, but maybe you and Osee can save me some serious money! 😁
Or any suggestions? I want to livestream with a sony camcorder. Is there any switcher? Which doesn't need a laptop to be connected..
RGBlink mini-edge is a cool video switcher, available in AMZN
Do you get an XML?
How is it for controlling the ptz features of your ptz cameras. Do you also need a joystick separately?
Yes you’d need something separate, I have the Obsbot cameras and can control those separately from a tablet/mobile device.
@@RICH_Photography Good to know. Thank you. I will now try to figure out a tactile controller, because I will be on screen.
This is support Web or sofware control via android or Windows?
The software is built in as shown.
@@RICH_Photography I appreciate that feature. However, being able to control it by the network with other devices like the StreamDeck would help a lot. Not having that kind of cripples it.
Does it come with it owns software ot give you a final project as the atem mini iso?
I’m not too sure on your question, but yes its own software is built in.
Spring upgrade is supposed to be have a software side app pc assumed...!
It wobbles when pushing the buttons?
No not at all, I have a Perspex sheeting over my table for the white look, it’s insanely stable and solid.
Atem mini pro black screen issue made me buy Stream deck. Atem mini pro is junk.
Are you south african
I am 🇿🇦
@@RICH_Photography sawubona rainbow nation
absolutely Osee is better
All day everyday!
Osee go .. for me.
Because I see analog Stick.
And that even before I started the video .. 😂❤ b
AND GUESS WHAT... Waaaat ... IT IS N.D.I did you all hear that..
the unit is ndi 12:38 .. and ndi is free to use software and equipment built in
You just need to buy the NDI license which isn’t much 😉
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you just sold this product bro
Thank you 🙏 really appreciate.
Replying to your comment whilst I’m sitting live streaming an event with my GoStream.
Love this switcher 🔥
No 4K and worse no ISO recording
Thnx for the heads up.. no iso.. no deal
At $295 you definitely not getting ISO recording, but will there be an ISO model in the future. Perhaps 😉
@@RICH_Photography I didn't even bother looking at the price, ISO is a must. if they bring out a 4k model with ISO I will certainly look at the price, until then I rather stay in the BMD universe.
Thnx for responding, I subscribed, keep it coming 😁
So still no 4k 60 in/out? Then what’s the point?… Ok, I didn’t yet get to the price point, it is cheap. Price is not comparable to ATEM. But ATEM Extreme is over $1000 and still no 4k 60… Useless. How hard is it to support 4k 60? I’m better off with 4 CamLink 4k, a Thunderbolt hub and a stream deck. Since I only need to record one source (whichever is active). And I prefer the recording to be dome on my computer. But 4k 60 is a must for anything that has the slightest action, like streaming/recording a ping-pong match from different angles, or a pool match. So disappointing:(
@@MStoica whilst I have to agree 4k 60 is nice, the majority of people live streaming at a price point of $295 will never be live streaming 4k 60.
Like you say, most Atem products are far more in cost and offer no 4K either.
Most countries and setups don’t even have a stable connection to support streaming 4K 60.
In fact, the only benefit of a 4K switcher would be to record 4K locally on the machine or SSD and then stream HD.
Most people are still using OBS streaming at 720p but in the comments asking for 4K 🤷♂️
The Design is poor! a mere replica of the mini pro. The vizion sp8 is much better
The design is far better than the Atem, nothing wrong with improving the design.
Also, the SP8 is nearly $4000…I should hope at something 13 times the price should be a little more full featured 🤣
@RICH_Photography . Haha. Good point. But It utilizes only one cable to control 8 cameras and touch screen. Are you interested to try it out and provide your review ?
Sure, send it, but if it’s really amazing I won’t send it back 😜
$$$$ 😂
Looks like an impressive product. Thanks for the video.
You’re so welcome
I hope they paid you for this broll. I see far better product shots on TH-camr channels than I do on most brand sites
Now I need to know what camera and lens you’re using and if you had a LUT on your hands or if you’re just a natural hand model
Ah maybe next time they will LOL super glad you liked it…but no I wasn’t paid for this.
Used the Lumix GH6, product shots I used the Lumix 12-35 2.8 lens but we do put a ton of effort into our lighting.
Well that’s good to know. At least if TH-cam doesn’t workout i can be a hand model 😂
Shut up and take my money. At work I have loads of different ATEM switchers, Analog way switchers even a Barco E2 and a mix servers. This is one I’m getting for home to teach my kids with!
Right!!! Absolutely amazing device. Love my Osee GoStream!
@RICH_Photography love this. but does osee gostream gets that heated up like bmd mini usually would do in the course of production?
It does get hot. That’s unfortunately what these devices do.
Most users even with their ATEMs put little fans next to there’s. If you join the Osee Facebook group you’ll see so many people making their own little custom projects.
There are pros and cons to both. The fact that there is only one output on the atem mini was a deal breaker for me. Sold it and bought the G Stream. Very happy with it.
Definitely, but I think the pros that the Atem had will wither away with all the updates and effort been poured in to the GoStream 😎
Can’t wait for a sub $1000 4K switcher
If that’s gonna happen, pretty sure Osee will hit the mark first.
yes, we need that asap. atem ISO recording and Osees multiple hdmi out and usbc and 4K would be killer!
Absolutely the very thing I keep asking, hd is exhausted now and preferably with both sdi and hdmi
Excellent video! My first switcher was the Roland V-1HD and when I switched to the ATEM ISO models (Pro Iso and then Extreme ISO) I really missed (and still miss) those knobs and the the T-Bar. I don't think I could give up the ISO records at this point, but you've got my attention, and I'll be keeping an eye on Osee.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it.
I do agree that the ISO recording is nice. I often record in each camera as an extra safety so the ISO recording isn’t missing much for me…BUT I definitely think Osee will have some form of ISO in the works and it’s definitely a nice feature to have.
Thanks for watching and the kind words 🙌🙏
I wonder if the Osee will introduce it's own ISO like feature as a software updated to device versus creating a new device. ISO is cluch indeed. @@RICH_Photography
@@dantecorbett2221 I know the Blackmagic ATEM ISO models have extra hardware in them to perform that kind of processing, so I doubt a software upgrade would be possible, UNLESS the power is in there already.
@@RICH_Photography It's not just the recordings themselves that make it valuable, but the EXACT same start and stop times and time code that makes editing after the fact so easy. I suppose if you have the same time code in all of your cameras that isn't as big a deal.
Can leave the site we can purchase some of the osee switcher ?
Can leave the site we can purchase some of the osee switcher ?
This device piqued my interest, but I'm curious if this is able to be connected/controlled with a stream deck?
To be 100% honest I’m not sure. I do believe the newer software update was scheduled in the pipeline for stream deck integration. Join the Osee GoStream Facebook group, what an amazing community.
So here is a question... what specs for a laptop would be good enough to run a decent live stream with this unit?
The bonus is this can run a live stream with no computer at all, you literally need a computer or phone to just hit the “Go Live” button on TH-cam.
This is why this device is so epic, it’s stand alone which makes it no rely on 3rd party devices which usually cause problems.
I have the Osee and its really impressive!
Totally agree and with all the updates it’s only getting better and better every time.
Thank you so much for this very helpful in facilitating the choice I will be making 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
You’re welcome 🙏
@@RICH_Photography donde se puedee comprar ese equipo y cuanto cuesta
I have the original ATEM mini but like to use it with my Chromebook. This limits the functionality to the buttons on the ATEM as there is no software for Chrome OS. The fact that this has built in software is an advantage for my use. When these become available in the UK, I will be getting one.
Hands down such an amazing feature that it’s completely independent. I think they future updates are still going to set this amazing device even further ahead of it’s competitors.
FINALLY! A video switcher with audio controls. A top of the line Tricaster with a full size control surface can't even find room for audio controls. You have to use a mouse and pray that you're not using a DDR function at the same time.
Side note, You are the first person I've seen using the Lark M2 mic and not just in a review. I absolutely love my set.
So glad you enjoyed it! Honestly I love my Lark M2, used to use a Cardiod mic but since my M2, the ease of use VS the sound quality is unbeatable!
Could you possibly use the usb c input with a capture card and connect a fifth camera via HDMI? Curious if that could work.
The one USB C works with a USB C camera so a capture card may work.
The other USB C is for the computer.
ATEM is designed and built in Australia, Indonesia and Singapore. It's interesting that something can come out of China that is eerily similar to an ATEM design.
Can we all please just stop supporting Chinese theft of IP?
It may look similar, but when you have it in your hand it’s totally different to the Atem.
Also it’s FAR superior to the Atem Mini, there is no comparison.
Also, I don’t think you’re aware but china manufactures majority of what’s in the world.
As a creator, I couldn’t care less where its country of origin is from. The people behind Osee are amazing people and the ONLY brand with such a big support system for people using their switchers.
What kind of hdmi wireless would you suggest for church events with 4 cameras? Your thoughts matter! Thank you.
I’m a major Hollyland lover, I’ve used a ton of transmitters and do gravitate towards Hollyland. Pricing and quality is fantastic.
Accsoon CineViews are also amazing, with 2 different frequencies but they are quite a bit more.
You need to find a balance, it’s very easy to over complicate a job/product to what your audience is actually wanting or willing to spend money on.
Can add a browser source without losing a camera input?
Not as yet I don’t think.
This switcher would be better with SDI
🤫 just wait 😉
can you record 4k60 onto external drive?
No it’s only HD.
So if Im sending a stereo signal from the camera via hdmi, could i control them separably on the switcher? also are you able to send a multi view to a different software like vmix?
No you can’t control those signals separately as the cameras HDMI out will send them as 1 signal to the GoStream.
Not sure regarding the multiview out to Vmix, perhaps someone more familiar with vmix can jump in and help :)
@@RICH_PhotographyThats a shame, as you can separate them as 2 mono on vmix, I might think another way to do it, thanks for the reply!
RGBlink mini-edge is a cool video switcher, available in AMZN
Thanks for the review. It is deeply appreciated
There are two output line from the mixer. Can you use one as output to a projector and the other as a multiview?
Do they have a version that offers SDI? OR a mix of HDMI SDI?
Coming soon I believe 😜
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Hey all!
I recently got the deck and after successfully connecting my sony fx3 to the osee deck via an HDMI cable the first time around, now it doesn't register on the switcher. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue, and if so, what's the solve was?
Hey 👋
1 - have you tried the different HDMI inputs, 1 to 4 and see if it’s only the 1 giving issue.
2 - if your camera is not set to send HDMI feed out it won’t. I’ve accidentally done this with my lumix cameras. Now I have a live stream profile that I use to make sure all the camera settings are correct
But can you integrate it with a StreamDeck? With my workflow, that's important.
I’m not too sure, I’ve never worked with StreamDeck.
When recording do it record the change of angles like the atem mini pro or it’s separate clips?
It records the change (the exact output to the stream)
It doesn’t record each angle individually like an Atem ISO.
The ATEM mini pro "iso" records all the inputs. If the Osee does that I missed it. Not having purchased or worked with anything yet, recording all inputs seems useful (crucial) to me because I don't expect to be live streaming. I expect to be doing significant post production. Yet I would like to minimize that work by making as clean a first run as possible. That leaves me favoring the ATEM ISO. On the other hand I've been wringing my hands over HDMI and SDI. ATEM wants $400 more for SDI (and you lose HDMI). The Osee looks like for $100 more you get both. Your thoughts?
To my understanding the Osee doesn't have ISO recording. If you're using multiple cameras with on-board recording, a workaround is to simply record at the camera level and sync all shots in post.
@@otm777 Right. The ISO does that automatically.
@@toddmarshall7573 Yeah, I have the Rodecaster Pro 2 and it's nice to have each audio track recorded separately for more control in post, but since this doesn't offer ISO, I can live with having separate camera recordings since it relatively easy to sync in FCP. For the cost and features this unit offers, you really cant beat it.