VG Myths - Can You Beat the Cave Story Pacifist Challenge?
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- Season 2 is go! To start the year off, we attempt to complete the indie classic Cave Story killing only the absolute minimum number of enemies.
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Cave Story+ (Steam) - เกม
A clarification that really should have been made years ago: at the time of this video's release, I hadn't done a single segment run yet. Avoiding killing the Core (letting Curly deal the final blow) wasn't discovered until the video was almost finished, so that segment was recorded separately. I hadn't thought the distinction was important enough to clarify at the time since the run is functionally identical from that point forward, but I've never felt comfortable with that justification. I'm sorry for being dishonest, and I've since completed an actual single-segment run to atone for my sins.
Don't worry bout it man.
If anything, even more respect for running a good portion of the game twice so it was accurate to the new techs
I value your honesty, thank you! And do not worry! Your work is great!
@@Just-Dan yes, actually. it only took... 8 years...
Gamechamp what you have done is unforgivable and I as a longtime viewer and supporter of your channel cannot bare witness to such a deciteful liar no longer.
"sir you've been accused of murder, what say you?"
"It was required for completion"
"*Not guilty!*"
*CONFETTI*
"I was just at the scene of the crime, Curly did it"
*MOAR CONFETTI*
Cool motive, still murder.
@@dismasthepenitent569 LESS CONFETTI
" *I have a very important semantic reason.*
...That would be dumb."
and the apocalypse would kill billions
@@dgplayzit4438 That two
It's okay, indirect deaths don't count.
It Would Be Beyond Dumb Even If It Saved Like 7 Bosses Lives And The Like 8 Wall Bombs Required For His Ending.
also the bad ending is just, well just go do it your self, *good luck on bosses*
Technically, the panties are important cause in some versions collecting them allows you to play as Curly. And Curly, as stated prior, is NOT a pacifist.
...tru
What versions?
@@shardtheduraludon Updated versions, such as the Steam and Switch releases have the panties. Not sure about 3D, but nobody cares about 3D
"If you talk to him you will actually kill him"
Quote:
Charisma: -9001
obligatory "OVER 9000!!" joke
its under 9000
@TeamWolfRules no one asked for yours
Yeah we have a uno reverse card
@Cringy Persona Fan understandable, have a great day.
"Curly."
>yes
"Is not."
>YES
"A pacifist."
> *YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES*
8-Bit Misdreavus yes, of course, absolutely!
quote: what do you have?
curly: A GUN
4:15 the Japanese here translates to: "Found Curly's Underwear." UHHHHH weird Easter egg
Curly commits a murder
“Non lethally murdering” something doesn’t quite add up here.
Hmmmmmmm?!?
Oxymorons are funny.
it sounds to me like Batman xD
If you turn someone into a vegetative coma state / put them in permanent life support, then technically speaking you've non lethally killed someone.
Broski
1. Vegetative, not vegetable. Humans do not have the power of transforming anything into a cabbage, thank god.
2. I guess that would kinda count!
"Once you reach Grasslands"
subtitles: *bushtown
I love this show
This run has brought us a new (and possibly incorrect) definition for “pacifist”.
A killer robot that has possession of deadly guns, knifes and missiles? Completely pacifist, sure. I mean, no animals were harmed in the process.
Define possibly
This run brought us a very incorrect definition for pacifist lol more like, _minicidal_ (minimalist and -cide).
@Professor do I have your permission to steal that word for next time? Because that word is the best word.
@@Gamechamp3000 You most certainly can take that word Gamechamp :) Have an awesome day.
I haven't seen another comment mentioning this, but you technically only need to kill two Kurara (giant jellies) in the Grasslands due to a speedrunning technique known as Chako Skip.
Whenever you pause in Cave Story, you actually lose your i-frames. While usually this isn't helpful, you can actually use this to get some high damage boosts. Outside of Chako's house there are 3 bats. After resting up, exit the house and do a full jump at the last possible block. If everything worked correctly, the bats will be up against the floating wall each at different heights. Hit the bats and right as you reach the peak of your knock back, pause. Unpause and you should get boosted again, repeat until you land on the floating platform and jump over to victory. I should note, this is also possible on Cave Story+ by pausing the game and selecting the map from the item menu, if you use the more direct map button it doesn't work.
THE BEST TIP EVER
NOT PACIFIST
@@xxebicxx9505 yea it is??
@@elizathegamer413 HE KILLED AN EXTRA KURARA
@@xxebicxx9505 oh i thought you meant bat skip was not pacifist
I've been playing Cave Story like Cave Story but GameChamp is trying to play it like Undertale.
Dude... who plays this game only without killing anyone? i mean, everybody kills them all at least once
I mean undertale was named after it
*Like pacifist undertale
Zapp 64 oh shot I just realized Undertale’s title is totally a reference to Cave Story
@@peytonjackson855 omg u r rite
"Frogs are legally people"
*Tsuyu wants to know your location*
Flowers are also legally people too
@@daedula7457 *Flowey wants to know your location*
stop assuming Tsuyu's identity
@@garytina7009 Das a goat not a flower
I like but don't get
Cave Story blocks your way forward and then it hands you a gun. The game's message is clear. Violence is the only way. You chose another path.
This game isn't that deep
"Picks up curly's pantys" Yes this is VERY important
The fuck is it even for
MintyFreshness4 idk
MintyFreshness4 Completion! :D
In Cave Story + doesn't it unlock Curly Story?
Ultima DoombotMK1 idk
8:35 Plus also if you just let them start the apocalypse, you have the blood of billions on your hands because you could have stopped doomsday but didn't, so technically the most pacifist option is to keep killing bosses
Now, some people would say that those don't count, as the people that would be killed aren't monsters like the rules state. But have you seen the things humans have done throughout history? Humans were the real monsters all along. Case closed.
Yeah...you cant do that ending. Because, yknow... APOCALYPSE!
Gamechamp has made it clear that she doesn't consider murders done by other people to be kills for the purpose of pacifist runs, unless it's more interesting that way.
@@timothymclean Well, you can't really stop Curly's bloodlust. You CAN stop the doctor, however
"Indie game that defines all indie games"
Good way to explain cave story lol
@Cringy Persona Fan it’s been 9 months I think the shrine is ok
Edit: IMPORTANT. You only need 2 jellyfish juice if you have 5 or more hp, because it's possible to double damage boost (pause in freeware, pause -> map in +) to skip using the first in Chako's house.
Story time! I tried to do this a few years ago, but with the added challenge of 1 hp only.
I got to Chako's house. Getting the jellyfish juice without being hit is insanely difficult, even if you allow yourself to kill the enemy that drops it.
Hot damn, I'd considered damage boosting for that but figured it wasn't feasible. Nice!
Project Overturn aka RareBeeph noice
Yeah, it's pretty tricky to get the setup right, and since you have to open the map from the pause(?) menu on CS+, it's counterintuitive to even figure out how to do enough damage boosts to make it up. The original isn't as hard to discover, because you only have to pause.
There is another damage boost skip in hell, if you are quick enough. You can damage boost through the big red spikes (where the rock throwing angels are), saving some time and (maybe) some damage. I haven't personally done it, but I've seen it done. If you can collect the two hearts, you might come up with a net increase? Edit: 11:31 for timestamp, just to be clear.
Vvg
Last episode: "Get out of my house, and remember to rudely invite your selves over for season 2." *kicks down door* I'm here.
Booster: Thank god you saved me!
Quote: *Your time has come*
I don't care if the newer translations say Bushlands or whatever, it'll always be Grasstown to me.
God I love this gamr
"Huzzah!"
Ah yes, I love this gamr too.
*_Beat Minecraft without building_*
Already been done!
Beat Minecraft without mining or crafting
Or without mining. Theoretically, this could work, as you can find stuff like Iron and diamonds in dungeons like pyramids. To make it at least tolerable to attempt this, I would only prohibid actual mining, not destroying any block, so wood would be fine, stone or any ore not. Also, I can tell that your suggestion is probably a joke, but I would really wanna see that.
Edit: FFS, you don't need to tell me that it's been done before. Three other people have already. Also, it doesn't matter since Gamechamp has done runs others have already completed, an example would be the coinless NSMB2 run.
@@namenamename390 NNNEEEEERRRRRDDDDD
NAME NAMENAME ibxtoycat already did both of those challenges. It would be pretty funny, though.
Edit: fixed the name. Autocorrect hates me for some reason
" Technically, this would be the earliest ending we could get, therefore be the most pacifist option. But, that ending doesnt actually count, and I've got a really important semantic reason."
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"That would be dumb."
I'm dying
Technically speaking, by letting the doctor start the apocalypse, you’re killing humanity.
@@temporaltoast9692 Technically speaking, letting the doctor start the apocalypse is not a "direct attack from the player"
Eric Chen
Eh, bonus challenge.
@@temporaltoast9692 Honestly this challenge is more about not directly killing instead of preventing characters from dying so who cares about humanity
Semantic
*Aquires Panties*
"This is VERY important."
Waht is the Porpus for this xD
@@Tieron1990 it's to unlock Curly Story
Ya
@@artazura note: it would if he wasn't playing the freeware version
He's in cave+
I have rudely invited myself into your home for the start of season 2, and it did not disappoint! Cave Story is such a great indie game, but damn does it not pull its punches! Keep up the awesome work, your talent (and suffering) in playing through these challenging myths are always a blast to watch and is very inspiring for coming up with new ways to play older games (or even with newer games like SMO).
This game made me so frustrated when I was a little kid. I remember getting the demo for the wii and not even being able to beat it. I recently bought it for the Switch and beat it really easily. Good game.
The demo was my shit, dude, I played the fuck outta that
I started with Wii versio too, so good memories
Sewer Boys I’m stuck on balos
This is exactly the same case with what happened to me haha.
You just described me. I still have the demo on my wii and i beat it on the switch AND pc
Ooh, cave story! Always love seeing this gem get some coverage.
10:49 you can enter the next room, collect some hearts, exit by going upward using the jetpack, then re-enter and all hearts will respawn. It's an good way of maxing out your HP for the next room. Enemies will also respawn however.
Yeah i also noted that
whoa what the fuck
thank you for the advice, I probably will farm the two hearts on the right and some butte from the ceiling with that before that section
@@aloysiuskurnia7643 also when you get to the big chrushing enemy, aim upwards and shoot but don't jump when not needed or curly won't fire her weapon making the bossfight 10x harder
That was my main reset point before I learned how to do it proper
Greatest game in the entire world.
Yep
D8ri
Yes
Big Agree
In my opinion, it might not be the greatest game, but it's very perfect at what it is.
When vg myths covers one of your favorite games
Imaghone
IKR!!! LOVE THIS GAME!
4:14
*”t h i s i s v e r y i n p o r t a n t .”*
help me stop laughing please.
From all my browsing of TH-cam (it's a lot), never have I ever found a better TH-camr. He takes these amazing games and completes them in unintended ways. He doesn't just complete the games, he delves deeper in the things that the developers would not even think of. Keep up the great work man!
They go by she/they pronouns
@@Xman34washere In Rick's defence, I don't think she was out at the time of the comment (she definitely wasn't at the time of the video).
I love how the pacifist run made it so that you found the fastest way to kill bosses so that you could avoid collateral damage. Now you have opened the way for non-pacifists to murder faster.
Ooof. This sounds like a really difficult challenge.
See, the thing about Cave Story is that its game mechanics are specifically designed to _encourage_ killing every enemy you see. Since you drop weapon EXP every time you get hit, and you're likely to get hit many times over the course of any normal playthrough, the very design of the game itself subtly pushes you to kill every enemy in your path. Unless you play _much_ more carefully than the game expects of you, you'll have to kill as much as possible to make sure you're well-equipped enough to fight the next boss.
This is _also_ the reason why nearly every boss in the game continually spawns weaker enemies; it's so you can rack up easy kills to get health, missles, and weapon EXP.
Basically, Cave Story is a game whose very design discourages the possibility of a pacifist run. You're _supposed_ to play the game without showing any mercy, and doing otherwise makes it incredibly difficult to even survive.
well said
So the opposite of Undertale.
@@RabnawazReviews Wait, doesn't Cave Story and Undertale mean pretty much the same thing? I mean, it's all about a story. Or tale. Under caves.
Just like Super Mario Odyssey is a game where you're supposed to jump, man.
Zennistrad2 that’s why he did the run
Great idea: Can you beat World of Light on Hard mode without the use of Spirits? A team of people did that already but they didn't get a lot of attention. Episode 1 of that only has around 70K views.
Or all spirits except Medusa
It’s broken
PikaPlayer Gaming another idea is “How many spirit fights does it take to complete the world of light while saving every fighter?
The prophecy!
It was heartbreaking to finally kill Ballos after never being able to beat him in the original shareware version and finding out that the achievements were bugged.
“Frogs are legally people”
-Gamechamp3000 2019
same with flowers
"Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom" without collecting shiny objects.
(If possible without glitches)
I loved this game as a kid and still love it today. It was pretty much my childhood. If the mighty GameChamp would do this run, i would proudly salute to you.
8:32 THAT WOULD BE DUMB
“Flowers are legally people.”
Aerith: “HEY HEY!”
Wouldn’t the final permanent weapon upgrade with the curly on your back be THEM killing an enemy
Well yeah but YOU control when she fires also, making it so it is YOUR attack because YOU pressed the button.
@@charbomber110 no, she just so happened to fire when I pressed the button, meaning it's not my fault
@@goggles8691 Well yeah but no amount of in-game story semantics can help the fact that it says in the rules that if a thing dies because YOU pressed a button you still murdered them.
@@charbomber110 by that logic you cant use npc curly because you pressed the left button that walked so an enemy was on screen so she shot them. its a different character.
@@memelescream4796 Nope, even if you don't walk Curly still moves around and kills enemies while you stand around like an idiot, so that's still not murder.
I don't know how possible it would be given the bow of light, but what about a Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild run without weapons/runes or a rune only run?
ass meme The bosses wouldn’t be possible then. A no kill run would be better, except bosses don’t count. But instead of going straight to Ganon, you have to free all Divine Beasts.
Actually, it would be possible, since I have done this very run. It’s just super tedious, I advise you to bomb kill the stalnox in hyrule castle to get the hyrulian shield, then you rapidly sheild bomb damage block as you kill the enemies. Koga can be beaten with bombs and magnesis.
Or bows/runes only
A no bow run? You can hit Dark Beast Ganon with the Master Sword beams.
@Gamechamp3000 ive been subscribed since you came out with your botw no climbing challenge but not only because i enjoyed your content but because you reminded me of a close friend that id lost a few months prior to the video being uploaded. Your sense of humour reminds me so much of him. There werent any obvious signs that he was going through such hard times, he loved to make people laugh and often brought of questions that made us laugh at first but made us think deeply. I want to thank you so much for helping me through such a rough period in my life. Would you be willing to do a charity livestream January 27th, what would be his 19th birthday, and donate the proceeds to the AFSP or the likes. If not just at least read this and know that youve made a difference in somebody. Thank you, on behalf of everyone.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend, but glad to know you've been able to recover. I unfortunately wouldn't be able to do that livestream, sorry, but thank you for the suggestion and caring to make a difference. Hope things go well for you in the future~
Dude, as somebody who has unfortunately had the same experience, let me just say I am sorry for your loss. It never gets easy.
PEPIS
Sorry for your loss 😢😢😢
F
Vg myths. Can you beat mighty number nine whilst having fun
Nah the really hard thing is playing mighty number nine without it crashing.
Keyan Stoney No, the game is kind of a cluster fuck.
i think the real challenge would be to eat mighty number 9 without wanting to do the entire megaman series no-hit
Lucas Lennan That isn’t possible on Wii U lol
Mighty Number NEIN!
I will make a list of best Gamechamp3000 "legally" quotes
"Frogs are legally people"
"Yes, flowers are legally people"
-hehe, quote, i know i know im really funny-
"i am actually making the claim that pressing the A button and making this frog twitch its leg muscles in just such a way that it gains tremendous vertical height, is, according to the laws of the UNIVERSE, absolutely, categorically, LEGALLY not a jump - and i can prove it. "
Can you beat GTA without comitting Grand theft auto?
Challenge accepted!!!
Ah, so you need to stick with one vehicle or walk to your destination.
Since these games often give you a car to begin with, of course.
@@tylerlarsen1842 ok, so what about GTA without breking any car-related laws? Without breaking any laws would be imposible since the missions require you to, but this ones might be possible.
@@tylerlarsen1842 in gta v, there are 2 or 3 missions in particular that require one of the characters to set up a getaway vehicle
Said vehicle cant be a personal car so buying a car or using the defalt car wont work so theres the challenge
I've never seen this game before
*And yet I wanna play it*
JordsB. 250 It’s free
@@dan7494 but it's not free at least not on steam
@@clintonanderson7436 It is here and there is an English patch.
www.cavestory.org/
Its free on epic games store right now and you really should play it
You can download the original version + fan translations and mods for free
This is definitely one of my favorite videos of yours. Very nicely done!
Cave story was the first game ive played and it brought me into the gaming scene, i love you made an episode on this game!
He should try Dark Souls without moving forward. Using only the back step movement
Would be too easy. Backstepping grants hyper armor during use, you can level up & grind as much as you want, you can still can use any equipment and the backstep can even be combined with the darkwood ring to give you invincibility frames.
Dark Souls without rolling/backstepping has been done, Lobosjr did it
Ze Great Pumpkinani reread the challenge
@@jbcrocket6722 I know what the challenge is, I suggested something harder that has been done. I suppose another could be you can only move by attacking?
Ze Great Pumpkinani that’s a good idea
CAVE STORY, GRAVE STORY SLAVE STORY, HEY I'M TALKING ABOUT A CAVE STORY, SAVE STORY, FAVE STORY, HERE WE GO!
H
"Tell y'all a story 'bout a cave, story 'bout a robot rollin' with a whole lot of bravery..."
Meet some bunny people in the cave, the Doctor's got a whim to put the people into slavery.
"Err'body's stuck inside the cave,
Can't escape the island,
World's smallest violin"
ˢᵏᵉᵉᵗ ᵈᵉᵉ ᵈᵉᵉ 🎻
Everybodies stuck inside the cave, can't escape the island worlds smallest island, skeetade
THANK YOU SO MUCH, THIS IS LITERALLY MY FAVOURITE GAME EVER. What an amazing video!
You did this! Wow! Alleluia!
Even beating Ballos my first time on a normal playthrough was intense! I didn't realize until I watched this video that your quick kill strategy worked!
Thankee!
2:28 it's a technique that has been passed down through the joestar family for generations.
Ah yes, a fellow cultured JoJo fan
Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well.
Nice video my dude :D
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS GEM OF A GAME IN YOUR SERIES, KEEP IT UP CHAMP!
thank u gamechamp, u single handedly refuled my hyperfixation on cavestory
Can u pay off the debt in Pikmin 2 with only enemies
Sup bro this would just be torture, but yes. it is possible by skipping every treasure your not forced to gain, and you can grind the first cave
Oof you’re right, You can grind first cave but I wonder how long it would take..
Theoretically, yes. It would take forever but you could grind out 10,000 from just enemies from the first cave. and never even leave the first area.
When he said "do NOT talk to booster" i know what was going to happen. Oh boy.
It was all downhill from there... Lord have mercy on him
I have binged your entire channel and am "patiently" waiting for the next video with bated breath.
You absolute madman. Hell is basically impossible even while gunning down everyone in sight, and yet you went beyond impossible. Incredible.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING A CAVE STORY VIDEO!!! That is my most favorite game of all time! I love it so much. Thank you.
Man this series is AWESOME
Mene The mene this is the first episode of season 2 as well
Kian stewart cool :D
Oh my god you're doing my favorite indie game thank you so much
Bro, I didn’t know another person even KNEW what this gane was, this is awesome, liked and subbed.
Yeah!!! Cave Story!! My favorite game of all time!!
same lol
4:15 This is very important.
I've watched all your videos (multiple times). Please make more.
You are an absolute madman and I love it
I like these videos shame it takes long to make
HiddenUnderAHood He works pretty fast for all this. He has to complete the challenge, write the script, and edit the footage. If you really want to watch more of him, catch him on one of his streams.
can you beat super smash bros ultimate without pressing A or B! (no controll remaping)
+ whitout the right stick that alow you to attack if you configured it to yes and it's configured on yes at beginning
@@alphox_ GOOD POINT NO RIGHT STICK ETHIER!!
@@thelegomaster2830 grab commands can't kill master hand, giga bowser, and some other Bosses.
How about not jumping or double jumping in smash ultimate world of light since your challenge is impossible bosses can't be grabbed
@@ZombieB1 that is a MUCH better idea. i guess that one is posible where my idea isn't.
This video literally got me into Cave Story.
I think this will be the first Cave Story video to reach a million views, good job!
Nah, though a basic "Cave Story" search shows it in fourth place at least.
Try to Beat a hat in time with the minimum amount of hat use.
Bonus challenge: don't use badges (except for hook shot)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was confused about booster dying if you talked to him the first time I did that I was so confused
I got this game off the shelf because I thought it looked cool. I had no idea what to expect, but I was pleasantly surprised. It's got a lot of zany snes charm, and smooth gameplay.
Remember when you tried to bring a cucco into the final boss in BotW? Well, you should try to bring a raft.
Still weren’t able to do Castlevania?
Came here to say this, lol. Apparently he couldn't do it?
You know, technically, the challenge was, "Can you beat Castlevania without breaking *Dracula's* stuff?". But the scythes belong to Death himself. Therefore, he would legally be allowed to break them.
That said, the semantic police have him on their watch list, so I think his best bet would be to suddenly be good at video games.
Such a hidden gem, I loved finding every little thing about this game without a guide :^)
Love the channel. Keep up the great work.
VG Myth: Can you beat Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Of Light without using spirits?
Uh...
No
Dont you start with one
Unless you mean not using anyone for battle
+Ecchiboy Anime and Gaming 2 people have already done it, Mew2king and Nairo iirc
Ignacio Gonzalez I meant without using any during battle.
Necrobones Gaming Thanks, I’ll see their runs.
"Jam to the best music in the game"
Sanctuary theme: *So you have chosen death*
Just my opinion, of course.
What do you all think it is?
Meltdown 2, but the remade version.
Balcony, for sure
gotta be Moonsong
That grasslands/bushtown bit is really good
YOU PLAY MY FAVORITE GAME AAAAAAAAA I LOVE YOU AND YOUR VIDEOS LIKE 100 TIMES MORE THANK YOU MY SAVIOR GAMECHAMP
I love your videos
Can you do
Can you beat crash bandicoot without wumpa fruits
Good idea!
That would be dope
@@DrShemp-sv6gf
Dope and kinda hard
I want to see this gameplay
Spam the like button
Crash without spinning!
Was hanging out with my friend and her siblings and at one point her brother asked me what games I liked to play. I showed him cave story -the original one, not plus or 3d (at that point I'd reached the blood stained sanctuary).
He looked at it and watched me play it until I reached Ballos' 2nd stage and died (I just couldn't beat that part at the time).
He turns to me and tells me that "This isn't a game. Or a good one at least." I ask him why and he nit-picks about the graphics for a bit. I note to him that 3D exist and then ask him what games he like to play. He answers very simply "Fortnite."
I was rather disappointed. He was 13. Then again I'm not sure what I had been expecting (not saying that all kids don't have an eye for video games just... This was kinda sad to me...)
(Note: I'm not saying Fortnite is a bad game... It's just kinda sad that certain games with a lot of hard work are... Belittled when so much has been put into them.
This game was made by one person... Right?)
yeah sad that younger kids can't see the beauty in simplier games sometimes, me as a game dev am trying to teach my bro the beauty of simplicity and we're going to do a game jam tomorrow
Yeesh, that sucks. I consider cave story a masterpiece. (Also I don’t like fortnite but that doesn’t really matter here)
If you were, i wouldn’t complain
That game deserves to burn in the deepest regions of the underworld
I’m glad this got on trending, I honestly love this series and it obviously takes a lot of work
your profile picture makes me want to die
Lord Sivler me too
I remember trying this very challenge a few years back, but ended it at the Sanctuary. I thought it impossible, but it seems the impossible is still achievable, excellent job on this
Beat Cave Story using only the Polar Star.
Yes
Beat cave story with a level 3 nemesis
@Adam Senzai even if he does after getting to last cave I think it all gets resets to lvl 1 so unless he like hacks the level of nemesis to get locked into lvl 3
Can you beat sonic 2 without touching any rings.
+DarkSonicYT
Does it count if you lose the rings after collecting them?
@@mergieismoronic even if you lose them you still picked them up so yes
Can you get 100 thousand subscribers without getting demonitized?
@Windows Codename Minecraft Non-required - no one said it has to be 100%
I highly doubt it's possible - most hacks that try and simulate that challenge need to edit levels to change it. Most notably Sonic 2 XL, where they add an item that nullifies the effect of rings you've collected after parts with large amounts of unavoidable rings - they wouldn't need to include that item if you could avoid getting any rings, unless just to make the challenge "easier".
I *do* think it could be possible in Sonic 1 though, due to the design being different enough.
Then I just remembered Spring Yard... Hm.
I'm beginning to think it's legitimately impossible for any Sonic game - I thought about SA1 and SA2 but those have moments where you're required to use the light dash, and I'm not sure if all light dash segments are skippable in SA2(actually I'm certain they aren't - the item you need to be able to perform the skips comes later than the light speed shoes, which is always followed by a light speed tutorial in that game. Shadow doesn't even get the skip item!)
My final guess would have to be Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations? Since any game with the light dash as a required upgrade is out, and Heroes has required light speed segments, and Shadow we're not certain whether it should be 100% or not - if so, then it's out.
I don't know enough about Lost World to make an accurate guess, though I think some required wisps force you to collect rings, and Forces - despite actually playing it unlike Lost World - I know even less about.
That all said, any game strictly using 2D is probably out due to how the 2D level design tends to work and the lack of the 3rd dimension to make skips easier, so the DS Sonic games, Mania, and 4 would also be out,
I say Colors since it's mostly 3D and any time a Wisp would be required I don't think it'd force you to collect rings? And Generations, while mostly 2D, doesn't ever require use of the light dash which is of limited use in the game, and I feel like the game's design is just right for a no-rings run. I'm not saying they are possible, I'm just saying my bets are on them.
I am now tempted to watch a video on Sonic 2 ringless since I feel it exists so I also doubt the games I listed as impossible *really are* impossible, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
It's just, unlike Sonic, Mario doesn't tie his health to coins, and it's rare that the level will take control away from the player in such a way he gets launched through coins. Sonic does, however - in such a run, without a shield, every hit is a 1HKO, and even then rings are *everywhere* and you will usually find yourself hitting a booster directly into a loop in more modern games that will force you to collect rings, or similar things to that.
I won't say it's impossible to do it in any Sonic game, I've seen crazier, it's just as a huge fan of Sonic I highly doubt it.
I still want to see him try though >3>
Oh god, you madman. I just picked this up for a replay last week and started out trying this. That didn't last too long for me.
This is such a great video, it single handedly got me to buy Cave Story
Also, the patreon shout-out fake out was great
When you confuse Cave Story with Undertale
Same difference
@@samkarahalis2425 They're totally different! The gameplay and story are nothing alike.
@@hazzadoggo4659 ... That was a joke...
@@mikecheck5937 Was it, now?
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Yes the game play and plot are nothing alike... but the atmosphere and fauna are exactly alike, and that's why people are upset, Toby didn't list Cave Story as inspiration.
Beat Celeste without dying or dashing or jumping. One of them
The first world is the only level you can beat without dashing.
The second chapter has you dashing through otherwise impassable dream blocks. And there are tons of jumps that can't be made without dashing.
@@chrisj403 have things like that stopped us before?
2/3 are impossible and the other would Just be really tedius and boring
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In the cases where things like that haven't been a problem is when there's a technicality, or they use a glitch. But Celeste is a modern game, so I doubt a glitch will help
happy this game isnt forgotten, first game ive ever played and still my favorite to this day.
This might be the most entertaining video yet.
"That would be DUMB"
Can you beat any Pokémon firered and leaf green without catching a single Pokémon?
At first I thought this would be easy since XY literally gives you 3 Pokémon and Sun and Moon have ride Pokémon making hms obsolete, however these games have mandatory captures with the main legendaries. Let’s go doesn’t have this problem but it also forces you to have certain pokemon to access the gyms. Which means that the only games that this challenge seems possible on are firered and leafgreen because you gain access to fossil Pokémon, fighting Pokémon and magikarp so you have to plan the route around getting Pokémon based on the hms you’ll need.
Random 11 It’s impossible. Bulbasaur and Charmander can’t learn surf. Squirtle can’t learn cut.
@@prmatthew2541 Random 11's comment makes it explicitly clear that in their suggestion it's okay to receive Pokemon from other characters, you just can't catch them. So you could buy a Magikarp and evolve it.
@@blarg2429 Ooooh ok.
It would be to easy there because you get 7 pokemons as presents in Kanto. I startet a no Catching run in Perl an there are only 3 present pokemon and the only Pokemon I allowed my self to capture was Wingull to flay from Canalave City to Celestic Town. Maybe try for yourself.
Black 2/White 2 has no mandatory captures and I believe all you need in terms of HMs are Surf and Strength, so just start a solo run with Oshawott and you're golden. It's the only game where you can do a true glitchless solorun.
Hl2 ep 1 or 2 no guns.
Ep 1 or 2 because you start with the gravgun, and in hl2 you have to reach Black Mesa east first to get it.
" we are taking politeness to the next level and not killing any body" it do fell like that some times
YES!!! OTHER CAVE STORY FANS!! HOW IVE LONG WAITED FOR YOU GUYS
This is NOICE please do can you beat super Mario world with touching all coins