In '69 when Stonewall happened, I didn't hear about it 'cause I was only 11. Within a couple of years I happened to hear talk of a "new" gay rights movement , on late night talk shows (and bam....I Identified). In '75 I came out to family & in '77 attended my first Pride Parade (in Chicago). In '79 (at age 21) I went to Washington D.C. for the first National March for Lesbian And Gay rights. I really enjoy watching the old gays & old Lesbians videos. I know many old gays tend to be invisible in the community, but we're still here. The current generation of LGBTQ+ folks really makes me proud. Carry on my brothers & sisters.
It had to have been illegal. Watch it again. It was never illegal in the US. I know some people want to look for something new to feel sorry for themselves about, but the question isn't one of them. It wasn't accepted. That is far from any question of legality.
I LIVE for the guys. So refreshing to actually hear and see a group of older gay folks talk about their lives and views. We should cherish our older lgbtq folk , cuz without them there wouldn't have the rights we now enjoy. We should never take what we've got for granted. More please. :-)
I dont have anything for granted and 90% of the LGB still dont have their rights we are closeted remember that the majority of countries are 3 world countries so if we just see the american perspective then you do have rights but the rest of the world not yet we still live in the 70s
My dad (yes, my father) was an old gay. In a way I hate that he felt that he needed to marry my mother to "pass", but I feel so blessed to have been his daughter. I miss you, Pop.💜
The rebellion that birthed a revolution. We are in eternal gratitude to the generation of Stonewall. They paved the way for where our community is today.
@Ed Miller seriously? why would someone part of the LGBT community not be grateful for stonewall? (this isnt sarcasm btw ! im genuinely curious) please educate me lol
It's good to see Grindr (which is a place where everybody is on their worst behavior) do something meaningful. I never would have thought from the worst would come the best. Props to whoever over there's idea this was
I was in NYC for Judy Garland’s funeral and spent many nights at the bar. I missed the riots by an hour- and regret that I was uptown at the time. I ran down to the Village and experienced the Community at its finest. We had had enough. We must never forget.
Stonewall may not be a very huge rebellion but it sparkled the flames of the revolution of equal rights to come... that is what pride means to me🌈 not celebrating sexual orientation.. but the progress and hardwork, sacrifice so Many memebers of LGBT community did to get us those rights #grateful
If only my Uncle had made it this far. Brought me to tears that for so long, you had to fight for your life to be who you are, but to see the changes that have been implemented, just swells me with hope, love, and absolute pride.
Starla Ramirez I can relate. My Uncle Steven passed as well. Granted it was during the height of the AIDS epidemic. I often wondered what he could’ve taught me if he were still around.
I was born on the 25th anniversary! Turning 25 when the Stonewall event turned 50 was pretty special. I tell mom that if she knew what Stonewall was at the time of its 25th year she would’ve known then I’d be queer. 😂
I was born a week after the riots, so my turning 50 on the 50th anniversary generated in me a special pride, a kinship with all who stood up and demanded a little respect.
As a history geek Stonewall is a watershed moment for the modern day LGBTQ movement. I just hope people and the younger LGBTQ generation appreciate Stonewall and celebrate it.
Just look at Pride now. Its basically a place to hook up and show off. Most of us do not even know that stonewall was the reason pride started, let alone what happened at stonewall
Stonewall is one of those events that fills my heart with pride, and brings tears to my eyes every time. I’m so great full for those who came before us, who paved the path for us. I’m so proud😭😭💜
I have such a major appreciation for this and it's the reminder that civil rights isn't just about race or religion, but sexuality too. Just like with Black History Month and the those who fought long and hard for their civil rights, I feel that we need to remember the people who fought for these civil rights during pride month because it is important that we learn to understand, appreciate, and preserve all types of history.
I remember hearing about Stonewall when I was in Junior high. I knew I was different. Everyone said that I was "highly strung" . It was difficult back then. I got over coming out and moved to Los Angeles in 1981. Suddenly, everybody got sick and started dying. I worked st Pacific Bell. I lost so many friends and coworkers . I still cry when I think about it. I am a fractured person.
You went through something no one should ever go through. Im eighteen and just moved to a new city alone, exploring myself in an open world with apps like grindr even. Although I dont even enjoy my life yet I am so blessed for my opportunities.
Latvian government just decided to not approve a law (for the 3rd time)that would allow lgbt people to register their partnership without marriage, because it'd be stupid to even mention equal marriage laws here😔🤦🏼♀️. We lost 23 to 60,but we're not giving up and doing the same thing next year, because they'll have to approve it sooner or later.
agate b. Stay strong and don’t give up! Keep fighting my loves and long live love! The power of love will succeed. I am so sorry that over there you have to go through to all of that. But soon I just know that it will all be over and you will succeed ❤️💙💚💜🧡💛💖
I've been waiting for this topic to be discussed by these wonderful people for so long. Finally, I got to hear the pearls of wisdom that made me stand up, alone, in my tiny apartment, .....and silently applaud. Thanks to all of you wonderful gentlemen. Continue slaying!! 🤗😍👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The bar raids did not totally stop after Stonewall. I witnessed a raid in L.A. in the '80s; the police just tried to make it look like it was not a raid against gays for being gay, but a raid for selling alcohol to underage guys. Also, and I'm sorry to say it, but if you were white you could pretty much slip away from the police unaccosted but if you were black or Hispanic you would be detained, harassed, jailed, etc. The police, even in Los Angeles, were still entrapping gays, raiding and busting bars, etc. for years after Stonewall. The wonderful gents here emphasize the drag queens' involvement in Stonewall, but even the photos suggest it was a rag-tag combination of various marginalized people. Most of us in that era were not fixated on race or skin color; we were just happy to be with other gay people! Stonewall is highly romanticized by the gay community but in my personal opinion we have the hippy movement of the '60s to thank just as much for the beginning of the gay liberation movement.
I was there when they raided Griff's. Luckily. A councilman was there having a drink with his partner. When the officers discovered that there was a city councilman in the crowd. They suddenly became more courteous . The LAPD (Lost Albino Poodle Department) claimed that underage kids had been served alcohol. Nearly everybody in the crowd was larger and bigger than the three officers. It almost became a situation.....
@@ivorwm2291 Yes, I seem to remember that one too. Was that the one when the bar was doing this sort of "mock auction" of sex slaves? If so, I remember seeing the announcement of that event and thinking, "Well, that's pushing the envelope a bit. They're gonna attract Laura Law with that kind of kinky party." The bust I witnessed was at Tabascos on a rock music night called Club Fuck. There were quite a few girls there; it was a mixed crowd, but lots of Hispanics, as the bar's usual patrons were mostly Hispanic. (Ironically, same general location as the Black Cat,) All of a sudden they turned the lights on and I saw several police enter; there were helicopters hovering over the bar with their spotlights. It was so ridiculously dramatic and overblown you would've thought they were busting terrorists instead of a bar with a bunch of young gays and gay-friendly people dancing to Depeche Mode and New Order. The gals got out fine, I thought I would get arrested if they noticed how buzzed I was but I had my "white card". I saw a whole line-up of Latino guys being harassed by the cops;; profiling was common and blatant back then. I later read the supposed rationale for the bust was that the bar was serving underage patrons.( I guess somebody missed their payment to the cops?) Meanwhile, there were probably a half dozen straight bars doing the same thing within 3 miles of Tabascos. When I see cops smiling and waving to the crowds at Gay Pride events I remember what they were once like, entrapping gay men in rest rooms, the park, and porn theaters, harassing black and Hispanic gay men while leaving white gay men alone, etc. These arrests led to job losses, loss of careers, and suicides. Those police departments were a reflection of their conservative, homophobic police chiefs. I love the way young people romanticize the '80s, but honey, Reagan was in office (hello?), there were still these bar busts, and the A- Monster was killing people. The '80s were a nightmare compared to the '70s. Things did not really get considerably better for gays until the success of protease inhibitors in the late '90s and the imminent rise of the internet.
@Ed Miller Oh, I am quite aware white men were arrested as well. I myself was taken into custody in L.A. once when I was a young guy new to the city. In this case, it was a black vice cop who asked me the following question: "Would you like to go down with me to my place?" The police report said that I agreed to "down on him at his place". I told my public defender neither my BF nor I use the sexual term "go down on me". He said "So what do you call it ?" I shrugged and said "We call it a blow job." My sentence consisted of a set of rules obviously intended for young men hustling, which I've never done in my life. My post only refers to my own experiences in L.A. in which I consistently noticed that men of color got the brunt of the busts and harassment I personally witnessed.
You mentioned that most were just happy to be with other gays despite race. I heard different things such as gay black men not achieving prices at balls so they created ballroom culture from which many of our gay culture is influenced by today. Would you say despite that there were still bars out there where gay people of all colors gathered together?
@Ed Miller I didn't mean to imply no white men were arrested. I know my gay history, sir. I myself had an unfortunate brush with Laura Law in the '70s when I was entrapped by a conniving vice officer. He brusquely asked me, "Hey, y'wanna go down with me to my place?" He was most attractive so I said "sure". I was then charged with "lewd and lascivious behavior" (Hello? I hadn't even gotten around to being 'lascivious' yet!). This word-twisting officer with the pathetic occupation told the court he asked me if I wanted to go down on him at his place. I told my public defender,"Umm, no... he asked if I wanted to go down WITH him to his place., not go down ON him at his place. I have had a BF for 5 years and we never use that term "go down". He can tell you that." "What term do you use?" the attorney asked. I replied, "blow job". The attorney laughed and the bizarre punishment for my "crime" was a list of legal prohibitions routinely given to street hustlers, an activity I never engaged in. So you see? Been there and done that.
Years ago..... Men and women demonstrated their rights and started a revolution Today men and women are demonstrating their rights and continuing that revolution Thank you Stonewall!
I never knew my biological father. My stepdad abused me in everyway you can think of. I wish one of you could've been my dad. I know I would've been a happy little girl. Love you Old Gays! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Its in the middle of the night and I just can’t stop watching these wonderful guys/gays. They are just the coolest and sweetest guys on TH-cam. I can’t even pick out a favourite because they are so different with their own qualities (all positive though). To bad I am straight... almost feels like I am missing out 😂 Greetings from Denmark ❤️
I found out about stonewall last year when I attended the pride parade in NYC. It was the 50th anniversary of stonewall. It was my second time going. The parade was the biggest ever it was beautiful. Proud to be bisexual and apart of this community.
Stonewall is and always will be so incredibly important to our community. We have come so far yet still have so far to go and I am beyond ready for the rest of this ride. These guys are incredible, I love them. I could watch them all day. 😊🖤 Happy Pride everyone! 💖💙💜
I just binged all the old gay videos! Please get them their own channel or show. The moderator/host is amazing too...the questions asked are great but they also have fun with the guys!
I’m absolutely in love with these folk. I really wish that they were my grandparents because of how much they represent the LGBTG+ community and are very open minded individuals 💜🖤💜🖤💜🖤
My study group has been reading "Stonewall" and all the things that that were happening at this moment is astounding. Thanks for having these men relate their insights of the event.
here almost a year later. (june 1st 2020) happy pride month!! lots of love to all of you!!! 🎉💜 i unintentionally started this pride month by reading call me by your name hahah
Stonewall was the beginning of gays finding their political legs or bearings. They realized they had political clout, if they could get organized. Either with a gun or by political effort, things change. Both require a fight though. Calling Stonewall a riot rather than a 'disturbance' or a 'incident' or 'raid' really lit the fuse for the gay movent in NYC. Along with other factors, including the black protests for their civil rights! The 1960's was a very turbulent time--- protests for freedoms, the start of popular drug culture, the hippie era, and a real backlash against the war in Vietnam. Over 50,000 American military kids/people were killed there. For the first time, it was broadcast into everyone's home on a nightly basis with the network news! Blood, guts, dismembered bodies, death--- war isn't glorious but ugly, senseless and irrational. Exciting times. Turbulent times. You never knew what would happen that day when you got up in the morning. What new, major event was about to happen!!?? Plus there were the killings of MLK, JFK, RFK, and 4 college students at Kent State by our own national guard soldiers, Nixon got bounced from office, etc, etc! A very, very wild time. It seemed as if the world was going to fly apart into little pieces at any second. But Stonewall was the start of the gay movement. If drag queens could put the police on the defensive, that was a major signal for others to standup for themselves, too! As the saying goes: No one is free unless everyone is free! And rightly so!!!
I think it’s significant to recognize that we glamorize that one event because we are still living the growth and development of a healthy respected life
I love these guys, however, I think on this particular topic if you had 4 gentlemen from NYC who were there, their take would be different. To which I say read the first hand accounts being published to celebrate the 50th anniversary
we gotta be grateful we’re living during the time that we are. almost 100% of human society in history has been anti gay. it took all the way until just this past century, and we’re lucky enough to be part of it
I love how Mick is such a quiet guy but he so well spoken in every single video everything he says has meaning he never opens his mouth just to open it (not to say that that’s bad that’s how most people are and it’s how we socialize but it’s the best way to explain it)
Congratulations to all of our brave brothers and sisters who kept fighting for all these years so we could have the right to be ourselves. The right to love whoever we choose to. ❤️from🇧🇷
I would absolutely love to hear more of Jessay's story as a Black, Gay man growing up and what major differences he sees now. What strides and setbacks he's seen would be a great interview. His story is TOTALLY different. I could completely tell from this clip. We need more of Jessay. Just Jessay, please. Thank you.
It must have been hard then and maybe until now, I just hope it gets better for the members of the lgbt+ commmunity, everyone deserves happiness and acceptance! I support every one of you all the way 👏💖💖 I also didn't know it happened after Judy Garland's death, she's one of my favourites. ❤🌈
I get really excited when I receive a notification for my favorite 4 gay men. I can just fall asleep to Jessay's and Robert's voice lol sloooooow and calming. You can guess who is who 😂😂😁
I truly loved hearing about Stonewall. I wasn’t familiar with it at all. And I loved that Mick spoke up. I loved hearing him speak. And his glasses are really cute.
These videos are wonderfully useful for history and for the future. As a future history teacher, I’m really happy to have these, and I’ll be referencing them in my lessons, I hope.
please give old gays their own channel
Yasssss!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️ Love them all !
Sinead YESS
And do more videos
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES
Mick is very wise
He's also very sexy too.
@@wolfpac1970 Bit old for me but he was in very good shape from the pictures
He has a Masters!!
I would date mike ,I'm 25 btw 😅but still I feel him very interesting
@@SimFIEC87 he has two masters degrees. Smart
3:14 I just love how "okkuuurrr" seems to have been stuck to Jessay's vocab 😂
I'm so glad somebody commented this already. Lol This is facts. O think he fell I love with okuuuuuurr
😂
It's fun for some people to say it.
It's not new kittens. It's been around for a while.
100% yes
In '69 when Stonewall happened, I didn't hear about it 'cause I was only 11. Within a couple of years I happened to hear talk of a "new" gay rights movement , on late night talk shows (and bam....I Identified). In '75 I came out to family & in '77 attended my first Pride Parade (in Chicago). In '79 (at age 21) I went to Washington D.C. for the first National March for Lesbian And Gay rights. I really enjoy watching the old gays & old Lesbians videos. I know many old gays tend to be invisible in the community, but we're still here. The current generation of LGBTQ+ folks really makes me proud. Carry on my brothers & sisters.
well I wasn't born till 1980 😁😂😋
well done your 60 really and your strong
We’ll carry on pal !! Love is Love ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I was born in 2004☺️
Another significant event in the L.G.B.T community during the late twentieth century was the 1973 fire at the UpStairs Lounge in New Orleans, LA.
I was at the first Gay Liberation March in Hollywood 1970. I was 18 and not out of the closet, but that march let me know I wasn't alone.
@Musicmann1022 - How far we have come!
Wooo!
@Phil Thomas wow
“was homosexuality legal?”
“no”
their reactions hit me so hard :((
There are still countries where it's illegal sadly
@@galaxyanarchy4889 and countries where you could get killed
@@Nick-dx2pt yeah and i live in one of them unfortunately
I'm confused... the subtitles said "was homossexuality ILLEGAL?" To which they replied "no", meaning that being gay WASN'T illegal
It had to have been illegal. Watch it again. It was never illegal in the US. I know some people want to look for something new to feel sorry for themselves about, but the question isn't one of them. It wasn't accepted. That is far from any question of legality.
The guys should react to Eugene Lee Yang’s coming out video!
Maddy yessss!
Omg I stand 👏🏼🙌
YES!!! These issues are not as severely as they were before 1967, but they still happen just as much, in today’s society.
Up up UP!!!
Yes! And then there could be a follow up like with Hayley or Pablo and Eugene could come out and meet them!!!
I LIVE for the guys. So refreshing to actually hear and see a group of older gay folks talk about their lives and views. We should cherish our older lgbtq folk , cuz without them there wouldn't have the rights we now enjoy. We should never take what we've got for granted. More please. :-)
UM see my latest comment
jonathan clay I’m totally agree with you. Very well said. ☺️🌈
I agree
I dont have anything for granted and 90% of the LGB still dont have their rights we are closeted remember that the majority of countries are 3 world countries so if we just see the american perspective then you do have rights but the rest of the world not yet we still live in the 70s
I AGREE. ⚘⚘⚘⚘
My dad (yes, my father) was an old gay. In a way I hate that he felt that he needed to marry my mother to "pass", but I feel so blessed to have been his daughter. I miss you, Pop.💜
mick: the most important thing i was looking forward to that summer was the moon landing
jessay: i had a lot of landings
I JUST CHOCKED!! 😂😂😂
So did jessay lmaooo😂😂
😂😂
What does that even mean :/
I love u am single ❤❤❤
Liftoff's & splashdowns, who knew NASA was gay? LOL
I love how Jessay said “I actually had a friend that threw a brick”, and confirmed it was at stonewall. As if he just threw a brick in general.
The rebellion that birthed a revolution. We are in eternal gratitude to the generation of Stonewall. They paved the way for where our community is today.
Ed Miller This is unfortunately true.
@Ed Miller seriously? why would someone part of the LGBT community not be grateful for stonewall? (this isnt sarcasm btw ! im genuinely curious) please educate me lol
Ed Miller so you’re mad that people don’t find you attractive and you think they owe to you to fuck you! That’s ridiculous
Bill: "oh look, there's Bob in the back!"
Robert (Side eye): "uh huh." 😒
😂😂
It's good to see Grindr (which is a place where everybody is on their worst behavior) do something meaningful. I never would have thought from the worst would come the best. Props to whoever over there's idea this was
Ryan James Yezak -- the dude who did California Gays (the Katy Perry video remix)
What's bad about Grindr?
@@Matheus_Braz STD's
Well said!
@@Matheus_Braz it’s a cesspool, just like tinder
I was in NYC for Judy Garland’s funeral and spent many nights at the bar. I missed the riots by an hour- and regret that I was uptown at the time. I ran down to the Village and experienced the Community at its finest. We had had enough. We must never forget.
Please make: old gays react to I'm gay Eugene Lee yang
Everyone at Buzzfeed is gay what's the point?
Stonewall may not be a very huge rebellion but it sparkled the flames of the revolution of equal rights to come... that is what pride means to me🌈 not celebrating sexual orientation.. but the progress and hardwork, sacrifice so Many memebers of LGBT community did to get us those rights #grateful
Feroz Dara well said
I love these guys! They’re so full of life and great advice.
If only my Uncle had made it this far. Brought me to tears that for so long, you had to fight for your life to be who you are, but to see the changes that have been implemented, just swells me with hope, love, and absolute pride.
Starla Ramirez I can relate. My Uncle Steven passed as well. Granted it was during the height of the AIDS epidemic. I often wondered what he could’ve taught me if he were still around.
I was born on the 28th anniversary of Stonewall. I don't think it's a coincidence that I grew up to be a lesbian :P
The gay is strong in you
I was born on the 25th anniversary! Turning 25 when the Stonewall event turned 50 was pretty special. I tell mom that if she knew what Stonewall was at the time of its 25th year she would’ve known then I’d be queer. 😂
🤷🏾♀️
I was born a week after the riots, so my turning 50 on the 50th anniversary generated in me a special pride, a kinship with all who stood up and demanded a little respect.
Cool...I’m pretty sure it’s just a coincidence. I mean, not everyone born that day is gay. 😂
As a history geek Stonewall is a watershed moment for the modern day LGBTQ movement. I just hope people and the younger LGBTQ generation appreciate Stonewall and celebrate it.
@Ed Miller I witness such ignorance and ungratefulness amongst my LGBTQ peers and it's a travesty.
Just look at Pride now. Its basically a place to hook up and show off. Most of us do not even know that stonewall was the reason pride started, let alone what happened at stonewall
I'm a 17 year old lesbian and I'm trying to learn all of the history I can it's very important and also fascinating
@@byakuyatogami2905 Well make sure you get the actual history and not the rewritten history.
Stonewall is one of those events that fills my heart with pride, and brings tears to my eyes every time. I’m so great full for those who came before us, who paved the path for us. I’m so proud😭😭💜
😍😍😍😍❤❤i like u am single
This makes me so curious about Mick's coming out story!
He has a channel where he tells us!
Where!
Daanng Jessay slays!
J E S S L A Y
I have such a major appreciation for this and it's the reminder that civil rights isn't just about race or religion, but sexuality too. Just like with Black History Month and the those who fought long and hard for their civil rights, I feel that we need to remember the people who fought for these civil rights during pride month because it is important that we learn to understand, appreciate, and preserve all types of history.
I remember hearing about Stonewall when I was in Junior high. I knew I was different. Everyone said that I was "highly strung" . It was difficult back then. I got over coming out and moved to Los Angeles in 1981. Suddenly, everybody got sick and started dying. I worked st Pacific Bell. I lost so many friends and coworkers . I still cry when I think about it. I am a fractured person.
You may be a fractured person, but one can notice you're also a sensitive, humane guy.
@@gp1567 I'm very fractured. It is an issue that affects me still.
You went through something no one should ever go through. Im eighteen and just moved to a new city alone, exploring myself in an open world with apps like grindr even. Although I dont even enjoy my life yet I am so blessed for my opportunities.
Hi can talk
Latvian government just decided to not approve a law (for the 3rd time)that would allow lgbt people to register their partnership without marriage, because it'd be stupid to even mention equal marriage laws here😔🤦🏼♀️. We lost 23 to 60,but we're not giving up and doing the same thing next year, because they'll have to approve it sooner or later.
Keep your head up and keep on pushing!
I commend your fight! I hope that you all get marriage equality soon!
Stay strong!
Oh I know that's tough, my heart goes out to you. It's just a matter of time until you get marriage equality too, the tide is in our favour
agate b. Stay strong and don’t give up! Keep fighting my loves and long live love! The power of love will succeed. I am so sorry that over there you have to go through to all of that. But soon I just know that it will all be over and you will succeed ❤️💙💚💜🧡💛💖
Bill: the cute one
Robert: the adorable one
Jessay: the young acting one
Mick: the wise one
3:12 okkuuurrr😂 he is up-to-date with the trends
My reaction when I get Old gays alert: click the like button, watch, comment, watch again, comment some more. 😘
"We're still. Living this today" Thanks guys for this important reminder.
I've been waiting for this topic to be discussed by these wonderful people for so long. Finally, I got to hear the pearls of wisdom that made me stand up, alone, in my tiny apartment, .....and silently applaud. Thanks to all of you wonderful gentlemen. Continue slaying!! 🤗😍👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The bar raids did not totally stop after Stonewall. I witnessed a raid in L.A. in the '80s; the police just tried to make it look like it was not a raid against gays for being gay, but a raid for selling alcohol to underage guys. Also, and I'm sorry to say it, but if you were white you could pretty much slip away from the police unaccosted but if you were black or Hispanic you would be detained, harassed, jailed, etc. The police, even in Los Angeles, were still entrapping gays, raiding and busting bars, etc. for years after Stonewall. The wonderful gents here emphasize the drag queens' involvement in Stonewall, but even the photos suggest it was a rag-tag combination of various marginalized people. Most of us in that era were not fixated on race or skin color; we were just happy to be with other gay people! Stonewall is highly romanticized by the gay community but in my personal opinion we have the hippy movement of the '60s to thank just as much for the beginning of the gay liberation movement.
I was there when they raided Griff's. Luckily. A councilman was there having a drink with his partner. When the officers discovered that there was a city councilman in the crowd. They suddenly became more courteous . The LAPD (Lost Albino Poodle Department) claimed that underage kids had been served alcohol. Nearly everybody in the crowd was larger and bigger than the three officers. It almost became a situation.....
@@ivorwm2291 Yes, I seem to remember that one too. Was that the one when the bar was doing this sort of "mock auction" of sex slaves? If so, I remember seeing the announcement of that event and thinking, "Well, that's pushing the envelope a bit. They're gonna attract Laura Law with that kind of kinky party." The bust I witnessed was at Tabascos on a rock music night called Club Fuck. There were quite a few girls there; it was a mixed crowd, but lots of Hispanics, as the bar's usual patrons were mostly Hispanic. (Ironically, same general location as the Black Cat,) All of a sudden they turned the lights on and I saw several police enter; there were helicopters hovering over the bar with their spotlights. It was so ridiculously dramatic and overblown you would've thought they were busting terrorists instead of a bar with a bunch of young gays and gay-friendly people dancing to Depeche Mode and New Order. The gals got out fine, I thought I would get arrested if they noticed how buzzed I was but I had my "white card". I saw a whole line-up of Latino guys being harassed by the cops;; profiling was common and blatant back then. I later read the supposed rationale for the bust was that the bar was serving underage patrons.( I guess somebody missed their payment to the cops?) Meanwhile, there were probably a half dozen straight bars doing the same thing within 3 miles of Tabascos. When I see cops smiling and waving to the crowds at Gay Pride events I remember what they were once like, entrapping gay men in rest rooms, the park, and porn theaters, harassing black and Hispanic gay men while leaving white gay men alone, etc. These arrests led to job losses, loss of careers, and suicides. Those police departments were a reflection of their conservative, homophobic police chiefs. I love the way young people romanticize the '80s, but honey, Reagan was in office (hello?), there were still these bar busts, and the A- Monster was killing people. The '80s were a nightmare compared to the '70s. Things did not really get considerably better for gays until the success of protease inhibitors in the late '90s and the imminent rise of the internet.
@Ed Miller Oh, I am quite aware white men were arrested as well. I myself was taken into custody in L.A. once when I was a young guy new to the city. In this case, it was a black vice cop who asked me the following question: "Would you like to go down with me to my place?" The police report said that I agreed to "down on him at his place". I told my public defender neither my BF nor I use the sexual term "go down on me". He said "So what do you call it ?" I shrugged and said "We call it a blow job." My sentence consisted of a set of rules obviously intended for young men hustling, which I've never done in my life. My post only refers to my own experiences in L.A. in which I consistently noticed that men of color got the brunt of the busts and harassment I personally witnessed.
You mentioned that most were just happy to be with other gays despite race. I heard different things such as gay black men not achieving prices at balls so they created ballroom culture from which many of our gay culture is influenced by today. Would you say despite that there were still bars out there where gay people of all colors gathered together?
@Ed Miller I didn't mean to imply no white men were arrested. I know my gay history, sir. I myself had an unfortunate brush with Laura Law in the '70s when I was entrapped by a conniving vice officer. He brusquely asked me, "Hey, y'wanna go down with me to my place?" He was most attractive so I said "sure". I was then charged with "lewd and lascivious behavior" (Hello? I hadn't even gotten around to being 'lascivious' yet!). This word-twisting officer with the pathetic occupation told the court he asked me if I wanted to go down on him at his place. I told my public defender,"Umm, no... he asked if I wanted to go down WITH him to his place., not go down ON him at his place. I have had a BF for 5 years and we never use that term "go down". He can tell you that." "What term do you use?" the attorney asked. I replied, "blow job". The attorney laughed and the bizarre punishment for my "crime" was a list of legal prohibitions routinely given to street hustlers, an activity I never engaged in. So you see? Been there and done that.
Years ago.....
Men and women demonstrated their rights and started a revolution
Today men and women are demonstrating their rights and continuing that revolution
Thank you Stonewall!
I love how strong and independent these men are. They are my idol. Bless their hearts❤
I never knew my biological father. My stepdad abused me in everyway you can think of.
I wish one of you could've been my dad. I know I would've been a happy little girl. Love you Old Gays! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Bless you, dear. Don't give up on trying to be a good, beautiful person. That was the goal of the Hippie movement.
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I love them🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗they are so well educated, sweet,kind,lovable grandfathers.....
I loved this vid. But it's been a while since an old lesbian video. Is everything ok with them?
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Gracie face well, as a lesbian, I like them.
These gentlemen really put a authentic voice to Stonewall. I absolutely respect these guys and appreciate their wisdom and candor
I love seeing these videos😍
"the policemen were trapped between drag queens in the back and drag queens in the front."
Idk, sounds like fun to me.
Respect for the old gays! they paved the road for us. It was so hard and unfair back in those days.
What a great video to include during Pride month! Much love to the “Old Gays”!
These men are incredible. So well spoken and just about the CUTEST things around
Literally 💜🏳️🌈
The 3 dislikes are the cops that were hit by the bricks
TE NG no it’s by real men who love pussssy
@@frankc5589 you really think that makes you a man 🤣🤣🤣pathetic you must me those men that will be a domestic violence person 🤮🖕🏽
Mick talked more in this one than he usually does 💕
Its in the middle of the night and I just can’t stop watching these wonderful guys/gays.
They are just the coolest and sweetest guys on TH-cam. I can’t even pick out a favourite because they are so different with their own qualities (all positive though). To bad I am straight... almost feels like I am missing out 😂
Greetings from Denmark ❤️
I found out about stonewall last year when I attended the pride parade in NYC. It was the 50th anniversary of stonewall. It was my second time going. The parade was the biggest ever it was beautiful. Proud to be bisexual and apart of this community.
Every one of these videos gives me as much joy as the one before, no matter the subject. I wish these men all the best 💜
God. How I want to sit down with these men and just talk and hear all their stories.
We need more of these videos with these gentlemen. I love learning from them.
Please give these men a channel! I love them. They are my generation talking about issues I can relate to! ❤️❤️
I am very proud of these Old Gay Guys. Thanks
These men are iconic, please have them on here more ❤️ I could listen to their stories and experiences all day
LOVED this! Great job, Ryan! Can't wait to watch the others!
Thanks Daniel! Awesome job on the cinematography 👏🏻
RyanJamesYezak Yeah. Merlin’s awesome. Glad you’re happy with the work. Cheers.
Stonewall is and always will be so incredibly important to our community. We have come so far yet still have so far to go and I am beyond ready for the rest of this ride.
These guys are incredible, I love them. I could watch them all day. 😊🖤
Happy Pride everyone! 💖💙💜
i literally LOVE these guys
Old gays react to "I'm gay" by Eugene Lee Yang!
We love you Bill, Jessay, Robert and Mick!
I absolutely love this series of old gays! Thank you so much 💕
I was born in the 90s, looking back and knowing my Gaystrory is the pride I'm carrying nowadays.
I love old gays! They do need their own channel.
Happy pride month guys! 💖 👬👭❤💚💙💛💜
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I just binged all the old gay videos! Please get them their own channel or show. The moderator/host is amazing too...the questions asked are great but they also have fun with the guys!
I love these guys, pls keep bringing them back for more QnAs. (Ask them more personal Qs too :)
Robert! What's wrong baby, you look so different. You are my favorite one
I’m absolutely in love with these folk. I really wish that they were my grandparents because of how much they represent the LGBTG+ community and are very open minded individuals 💜🖤💜🖤💜🖤
My study group has been reading "Stonewall" and all the things that that were happening at this moment is astounding. Thanks for having these men relate their insights of the event.
The best thing on this channel is the Old Gays!!!!!!
Old gay men and women are so wise like owls
I'm not even gay but I love these videos. They are very entertaining. These guys are great.
These guys are amazing, never get tired of videos with them.
here almost a year later. (june 1st 2020)
happy pride month!! lots of love to all of you!!! 🎉💜
i unintentionally started this pride month by reading call me by your name hahah
Stonewall was the beginning of gays finding their political legs or bearings. They realized they had political clout, if they could get organized.
Either with a gun or by political effort, things change. Both require a fight though.
Calling Stonewall a riot rather than a 'disturbance' or a 'incident' or 'raid' really lit the fuse for the gay movent in NYC. Along with other factors, including the black protests for their civil rights!
The 1960's was a very turbulent time--- protests for freedoms, the start of popular drug culture, the hippie era, and a real backlash against the war in Vietnam. Over 50,000 American military kids/people were killed there. For the first time, it was broadcast into everyone's home on a nightly basis with the network news! Blood, guts, dismembered bodies, death--- war isn't glorious but ugly, senseless and irrational. Exciting times. Turbulent times. You never knew what would happen that day when you got up in the morning. What new, major event was about to happen!!?? Plus there were the killings of MLK, JFK, RFK, and 4 college students at Kent State by our own national guard soldiers, Nixon got bounced from office, etc, etc! A very, very wild time. It seemed as if the world was going to fly apart into little pieces at any second.
But Stonewall was the start of the gay movement. If drag queens could put the police on the defensive, that was a major signal for others to standup for themselves, too! As the saying goes: No one is free unless everyone is free! And rightly so!!!
Thank u for making a difference for our generation today! 🌈❤️🌈❤️🌈
I just think Old Gays should be seen by every young gay person. History is still being made and this relies on educational videos like this series
I would love to take a gay history class with old gays as teachers
These four are my favorite ones on this channel💓😊
I love the Old Gays. I wish I could hug each one and say Thank You for making our lives better today.
I think it’s significant to recognize that we glamorize that one event because we are still living the growth and development of a healthy respected life
I love them so muchhhhhhh. There will never be too much of this type of content for me
I love these guys, however, I think on this particular topic if you had 4 gentlemen from NYC who were there, their take would be different. To which I say read the first hand accounts being published to celebrate the 50th anniversary
we gotta be grateful we’re living during the time that we are. almost 100% of human society in history has been anti gay. it took all the way until just this past century, and we’re lucky enough to be part of it
They lived through the hard times when gay wasn't accepted, so the next generation would be accepted.
I love how Mick is such a quiet guy but he so well spoken in every single video everything he says has meaning he never opens his mouth just to open it (not to say that that’s bad that’s how most people are and it’s how we socialize but it’s the best way to explain it)
Congratulations to all of our brave brothers and sisters who kept fighting for all these years so we could have the right to be ourselves. The right to love whoever we choose to. ❤️from🇧🇷
I would absolutely love to hear more of Jessay's story as a Black, Gay man growing up and what major differences he sees now. What strides and setbacks he's seen would be a great interview. His story is TOTALLY different. I could completely tell from this clip. We need more of Jessay. Just Jessay, please. Thank you.
*sees old gays and bill on the thumbnail*
i never clicked so fast
It must have been hard then and maybe until now, I just hope it gets better for the members of the lgbt+ commmunity, everyone deserves happiness and acceptance! I support every one of you all the way 👏💖💖
I also didn't know it happened after Judy Garland's death, she's one of my favourites. ❤🌈
I get really excited when I receive a notification for my favorite 4 gay men. I can just fall asleep to Jessay's and Robert's voice lol sloooooow and calming. You can guess who is who 😂😂😁
I truly loved hearing about Stonewall. I wasn’t familiar with it at all. And I loved that Mick spoke up. I loved hearing him speak. And his glasses are really cute.
Black Cat Cafe in Los Angeles happened before Stonewall. Know your history.
Just looked it up. Little gems in the comment sections like this helps so much with spreading and learning more information.
I love these guys. Best thing on TH-cam at the moment!
No hate here just love.
My favorite 4 men are baaaack! I love ya’ll! ❤️
Every post I say this: Give us the Golden Gays Channel.
I really enjoy these guys. They are a joy to watch!
Hi Bill... 😍😍😍 always happy to see you and as well other.
Love these guys, it gives me hope that we can age and maintain the essence and radiance of youth through wisdom and humor
We need an Old Gays react channel!! And appreciate them for the LGBTQ+ community to be recognized around the world 🌎 🌈
These videos are wonderfully useful for history and for the future. As a future history teacher, I’m really happy to have these, and I’ll be referencing them in my lessons, I hope.