I talk about Jason in my own flights with my CFI as I get close to "solo time" which I'm sure they love. lol But I love J's clean-cut, confident, simplistic manner. I try to take on the same level of composure when I fly. It doesn't work. (yet) haha Nice job, Jason. I'm a fan.
I did my first flight as a student pilot today and man do you make that look easier than it is. I'm doing maneuvers in the SIM tomorrow before doing them IRL in a few days. Figured I would use YT university to get some extra guidance outside of my training materials. I can't wait until I can control the plane effortlessly as you just showed. Subbed!
My CFI recommended 2 rolls of the trim wheel when he introduced me to steep turns. Didn’t understand why as he didn’t explain it. I was confused as to why I needed it, and just held the turn with the yoke, like a n00b. This helped a ton.
Awesome. Coincidentally my instructor asked me to review steep turns, stalls, slow flight, and engine out procedures for a practice flight tomorrow morning. I've completed all my requirements for PP and am brushing up for a checkride. Perfect timing and a new concept of dialing in trim in the maneuver. Thanks!
That roll of trim into the steep turn was the key to my success on my CFI checkride! The instructor on my last review flight blessed me with that simple technique.
Such a great tip, wish i had this before i practiced steep turns today. Any recommendation for an electronic trim equivalent of 3/4 rolls in C162 as i don't have a trim wheel?
Awesome stuff, never thought to trim a turn before but I think I'll give this a try. Unfortunately the plane I'm in doesn't have a trim wheel so I'll have to improvise. Looking forward to the rest of the maneuvers!
Rod Cichon: Jason that was amazing.. I always thought you couldn’t use your trim in a steep turn on a check ride.. Always had trouble with steep turns and keeping Altitude.. Thanks for the great tip
Definitely going to give this try. One question though, do you add power after you establish 45 degree of bank? I was practising steep turns today, and I lost a tons of airspeed when I established 30 degree of bank
Jason, if you get a chance, I’d love your thoughts. I’m post cross country just practicing for my checkride. My school’s steep turn checklist does what you’re suggesting with the trim, but they also add a bump (+200rpm) of power just before you add the trim. I think it’s to combat sink….any thoughts?
I observed that, you did not add extra power after you roll into the turn to compensate for the lost vertical lift, isn’t that necessary while using the trim method, I wonder? Thanks 😊
Hi Robert! Thanks for watching! There could be a number of reasons you need different amounts of trim, most notably the left-turning tendencies! Fly safe!
Thanks for the great video on steep turns. Fortunately, that's not where my problems lie. I can't wait for your next video.... My checkride is scheduled for 12/15. :)
Hi jason, i enjoy all your video. per steep turn is it possible when you add just two rolls of trim after a turn ..you will still achieve a good steep turn?or it must be 3 rolls of trim?
Hi Aaron! You would need to know your airplane and how much trim it needs. It would take practice to know how much to put in and take out. But the same concept applies. Thanks for watching!
Hi Rayyan! Yes the same theory works but you may need more trim since you are at a steeper bank angle. Just remember to take out the trim or back pressure when you roll out so you don't start a climb! Thanks for watching!
On my discovery flight, the CFI said I would have to do a 45-degree bank while turning to pass my check-ride (someday) then he showed me that in action. Then, he did a 60-degree bank then pulled back pretty aggressively on the yoke (while banked) so I could really feel the G-forces. To be honest, I didn't like it at all. It was really scary for me. He said some people actually take that up to about 70 to 75 degrees, which I can't even imagine in a small airplane like that. I mean, I don't consider a Piper Cherokee to be an aerobatic airplane. So my questions are... what document actually shows how many G's a particular airplane is capable of withstanding? and how do you know if you get close to that if there's no gauge on the instrument panel for that?
Hello! In an aircraft's POH it lists weight restrictions by category (normal, utility, etc). The FAA lists the G forces that are within each category. And while there may not be a specific gauge in most GA aircraft, you can know your G forces by your condition of flight. For example, 60 degrees of bank is 2 G's. There is a chart that lists all the G forces and their associated bank angles. If you need any further clarification please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Hope this helps!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining sometimes you speak so fast, I do appreciate if you try to speak slowly, in particular because English is not my first language😀🙋🏼✈🇦🇷
Hi Jason, I spoke with my Instructure to practice steep turns with trim like what you did, and he said to me No , and he said I am teaching you How to fly, not How to using trim, But I am gonaa do it by my self when he Realse me to go Solo GF.
Great video Jason, as always. I have a doubt though!! As you turn to 45° are you applying back pressure as well or only using the three rolls of trim? Cheers from Panamá city
Hi George! You can do whatever you would like. Just remember to take out the trim or back pressure when you roll out so you don't start a climb! Thanks for watching!
Since the 3 or 4 rolls of the trim wheel was enough to keep the nose level during the turn, I would say the trim is doing all the back pressure for you
Great video! I’m a student pilot and your videos are my go-to! Just practiced this maneuver yesterday but didn’t have this tip. Will definitely use it next time. One question, why does it require more trim for a right turn?
Hello! You need to slightly increase power when you enter the turn because you need to increase the angle of attack to compensate for the loss of the vertical component of lift. Just make sure to take it out when you finish the maneuver so you do not increase airspeed above the ACS standards! Fly safe!
Jason, you stressed pushing the yoke forward when exiting a steep turn. Why? I'm going to guess if you don't push the yoke forward, you'll start to climb because of the trim?
I learned hands-off steep turns on my flight test. After doing them to the examiner's satisfaction he told me "that was OK, but there's a better way..." and proceeded to show me. I go out to the local practice area a couple of times a year to play, uh, practice.
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Hey Jason, i still watch these videos even after they helped me pass my check ride last June! The examiner was impressed with that trick
That's awesome my friend! Thanks so much for watching!
I talk about Jason in my own flights with my CFI as I get close to "solo time" which I'm sure they love. lol But I love J's clean-cut, confident, simplistic manner. I try to take on the same level of composure when I fly. It doesn't work. (yet) haha Nice job, Jason. I'm a fan.
WOW, Jason!!! EVERY TIME! EVERY SINGLE TIME I watch your videos, I LEARN SOMETHIING NEW!!!! love this channel!!!
Glad we can help! Thanks for watching, Alicia!
Hey Jason, I learn something new everytime I watch one of your videos. Great job!👏
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
I never thought of using that much trim before steep turns. I'm definitely using that trick. Thanks Jason!
No one ever told me to make my clearing turns to the left. Great idea. I'll start teaching it to my students.
Glad you found it useful, thanks for watching!
I did my first flight as a student pilot today and man do you make that look easier than it is. I'm doing maneuvers in the SIM tomorrow before doing them IRL in a few days. Figured I would use YT university to get some extra guidance outside of my training materials. I can't wait until I can control the plane effortlessly as you just showed. Subbed!
Hello!
It all comes in time! You'll be flying just like this before you know it! Just keep practicing and it'll all start to make sense!
Great lesson and demo! I will try trimming in my steep turns the next chance I get. Thanks!
Awesome my friend, let us know how it goes. Thank you so much for watching.
My CFI recommended 2 rolls of the trim wheel when he introduced me to steep turns. Didn’t understand why as he didn’t explain it.
I was confused as to why I needed it, and just held the turn with the yoke, like a n00b.
This helped a ton.
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
lol. nkosi i passed via same experience. had 2 different CFI
Love this video Jason. I’m definitely adding this to my tool box.
Please do! Thanks for watching, Clarence!
Awesome. Coincidentally my instructor asked me to review steep turns, stalls, slow flight, and engine out procedures for a practice flight tomorrow morning. I've completed all my requirements for PP and am brushing up for a checkride. Perfect timing and a new concept of dialing in trim in the maneuver. Thanks!
Awesome! Good luck! Thanks for watching, Tom!
That roll of trim into the steep turn was the key to my success on my CFI checkride! The instructor on my last review flight blessed me with that simple technique.
Awesome! Congrats! Thanks for sharing, Waseem!
Thanks always good to go back to the maneuvers
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Miguel!
Another great video Thank you Jason
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching, Ron!
Great video! Keep em' coming!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
Such a great tip, wish i had this before i practiced steep turns today. Any recommendation for an electronic trim equivalent of 3/4 rolls in C162 as i don't have a trim wheel?
Can't wait for the next video! *fingers crossed it's a commercial manuever*
Thanks for the feedback, Timothy!
Awesome as always
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Marites!
Thanks for this. Starting steep turns this week in my training.
Glad we can help, Sam!
Great video. What is you are using an airplane that has electric trim. How much trim would you put in?
Awesome stuff, never thought to trim a turn before but I think I'll give this a try. Unfortunately the plane I'm in doesn't have a trim wheel so I'll have to improvise. Looking forward to the rest of the maneuvers!
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video. I had never look at steep turns the way you just did. Nice I will practice the tomorrow with my N298PW .
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching, Ruben!
Rod Cichon: Jason that was amazing.. I always thought you couldn’t use your trim in a steep turn on a check ride.. Always had trouble with steep turns and keeping Altitude.. Thanks for the great tip
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Rod!
Definitely going to give this try. One question though, do you add power after you establish 45 degree of bank? I was practising steep turns today, and I lost a tons of airspeed when I established 30 degree of bank
Jason, if you get a chance, I’d love your thoughts. I’m post cross country just practicing for my checkride. My school’s steep turn checklist does what you’re suggesting with the trim, but they also add a bump (+200rpm) of power just before you add the trim. I think it’s to combat sink….any thoughts?
I observed that, you did not add extra power after you roll into the turn to compensate for the lost vertical lift, isn’t that necessary while using the trim method, I wonder? Thanks 😊
It must be amazing to be able to go fly like that.
It is! Thanks for watching, Shawn!
Love your videos and airmanship. Come fly for us at Horizon Air/Alaska Airlines!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Cool demonstration. What is the reason that the airplane needs a different amount of trim up for left versus right turns?
Hi Robert! Thanks for watching! There could be a number of reasons you need different amounts of trim, most notably the left-turning tendencies! Fly safe!
do I still need to add some power when entering into the bank?
What speeds? I’m trying today. Tks
What tail mount are you using. That is so nice and clear. not jumpy at all!!
Hi Paul! Not sure which one Jason is using but glad you enjoyed the content! We strive to provide excellent content! Thanks for watching, fly safe!
Hi Jason, thanks for your videos. How many seconds is one roll of trim in an electric trim?
Thanks for the great video on steep turns. Fortunately, that's not where my problems lie. I can't wait for your next video.... My checkride is scheduled for 12/15. :)
Good luck! Let us know how it goes! If you need any assistance please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Fly safe!
Hi jason, i enjoy all your video. per steep turn is it possible when you add just two rolls of trim after a turn ..you will still achieve a good steep turn?or it must be 3 rolls of trim?
Hello! This is a good question. It does depend on the plane you're flying but for a c172 3 works great.
About to try this today, checkride in a few days and i desperately need to get steep turns down
What if it has electric trim
Hi Aaron! You would need to know your airplane and how much trim it needs. It would take practice to know how much to put in and take out. But the same concept applies. Thanks for watching!
What about commercial steep turns? Will the same method work?
Good question....with the steeper angle more back pressure is required. Wonder what his perspective is on that!
Hi Rayyan! Yes the same theory works but you may need more trim since you are at a steeper bank angle. Just remember to take out the trim or back pressure when you roll out so you don't start a climb! Thanks for watching!
I love the steep turn.... This maneuver has that fighter pilot feel to it!!!! And who doesn't want to be Mav?!!! hahahaa
I agree, sometimes you even feel a bit of G!! lol
Right! Thanks for watching, Michael!
On my discovery flight, the CFI said I would have to do a 45-degree bank while turning to pass my check-ride (someday) then he showed me that in action. Then, he did a 60-degree bank then pulled back pretty aggressively on the yoke (while banked) so I could really feel the G-forces. To be honest, I didn't like it at all. It was really scary for me. He said some people actually take that up to about 70 to 75 degrees, which I can't even imagine in a small airplane like that. I mean, I don't consider a Piper Cherokee to be an aerobatic airplane.
So my questions are... what document actually shows how many G's a particular airplane is capable of withstanding? and how do you know if you get close to that if there's no gauge on the instrument panel for that?
Hello! In an aircraft's POH it lists weight restrictions by category (normal, utility, etc). The FAA lists the G forces that are within each category. And while there may not be a specific gauge in most GA aircraft, you can know your G forces by your condition of flight. For example, 60 degrees of bank is 2 G's. There is a chart that lists all the G forces and their associated bank angles. If you need any further clarification please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Hope this helps!
good lesson 👏👏👏
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Jorge!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining sometimes you speak so fast, I do appreciate if you try to speak slowly, in particular because English is not my first language😀🙋🏼✈🇦🇷
Hi Jason, I spoke with my Instructure to practice steep turns with trim like what you did, and he said to me No , and he said I am teaching you How to fly, not How to using trim, But I am gonaa do it by my self when he Realse me to go Solo GF.
Thanks for sharing! Good luck in your training and on your solo!
Great video Jason, as always. I have a doubt though!! As you turn to 45° are you applying back pressure as well or only using the three rolls of trim? Cheers from Panamá city
Hi George! You can do whatever you would like. Just remember to take out the trim or back pressure when you roll out so you don't start a climb! Thanks for watching!
Since the 3 or 4 rolls of the trim wheel was enough to keep the nose level during the turn, I would say the trim is doing all the back pressure for you
Great video! I’m a student pilot and your videos are my go-to! Just practiced this maneuver yesterday but didn’t have this tip. Will definitely use it next time. One question, why does it require more trim for a right turn?
Hey Lorie! Right steep turns require more back pressure/trim due to the gyroscopic precession of the prop! I hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
What's the best way to do with the power - to keep my altitude? Do you lock it in or do you keep adjusting it while doing the turn? Thanks much.
Hello! You need to slightly increase power when you enter the turn because you need to increase the angle of attack to compensate for the loss of the vertical component of lift. Just make sure to take it out when you finish the maneuver so you do not increase airspeed above the ACS standards! Fly safe!
No additional power for the turn past 30 degrees? Maybe 100-200 RPM in 172S? I’ll try next time out, thanks for all of your great content!
Hello! Yes you may need some additional power! Thanks for watching, glad we could help!
Hi jason, when you rolled into the bank, did you add any power or was it just the trim you used?
You may need to do both, Sami! Thanks for watching!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining amazing videos even for learning how to teach for cfi initial. Thank you for your videos. I wana visit you at Ocala FL one day.
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Jason, you stressed pushing the yoke forward when exiting a steep turn. Why? I'm going to guess if you don't push the yoke forward, you'll start to climb because of the trim?
That is correct! You need to take out the trim or back pressure you had when you roll out so you don't start to climb. Thanks for watching!
I learned hands-off steep turns on my flight test. After doing them to the examiner's satisfaction he told me "that was OK, but there's a better way..." and proceeded to show me. I go out to the local practice area a couple of times a year to play, uh, practice.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing, Laura!
Honestly I’m having trouble even using trim except during this maneuver. I hand fly everything else, which I’ve got to get away from.
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Thanks for watching, Rick!
I forgot clearing turns in my mock checkride
Good thing it was a mock checkride! A good pilot is always learning. Thanks for watching, Cooper!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining ya! I like saying that when I feel like I hit a wall studying, a good pilot is always learning! :)
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@@jimmyfall9302 now you know
Thanks for watching!
The only problem - you can't use "trim" to do steep turn during checkride...
The FAA ACS does not prohibit the use of "trim" during the steep turn maneuver.
Hi Yurii! You can use trim as long as you still fly safely and to ACS standards. I hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
You don’t discuss rudder input?