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This video features a JVC Multi-System VCR that plays NTSC, SECAM and PAL VHS Formats. Also, we take apart a combination LG HDDVD and Blu-ray combo player!
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The languages were
1. English
2. Russian
3. Arabic
Nice to see royalty in the comments section
русский is written in cyrillic letters meaning russki
all hail vcr king
How did Cyrillic end up taking Latin letters and randomly remapping their sounds?
dunno, but there is a lot of sound-shifting within different languages. Maybe they all started as the same sounds but shifted?
I like how you never seem too concerned about cleaning your buys. I would never load anything into any machine without thoroughly cleaning it.
In Europe since the early 90's most TV's can display both PAL and NTSC.
Europe had pal and secam. Never had ntsc.
But TV's does support NTSC, only cheaper TV's in Europe doesn't support NTSC. And sometimes I play NTSC games on my modded PS1 and it works great if the TV supports NTSC.
And we also had PAL60 (525/30 4.43MHz).
My 2001 Grundig TV supports PAL, SECAM and NTSC. Tried many NTSC DVDs without conversion.
Many TV's in Europe did have NTSC playback, I had Sony CRT TV's back then and was playing a lot of NTSC VHS and DVD on those. I could just put any VHS or DVD to my players and see them from my TV (in Europe). Not all TV's and VCR's had the NTSC support but the ones I got had it. My very first TV (a Finnish made Salora) only had NTSC 4.46, but not the other frequency, but my Sony TV's were showing both NTSC frequencies.
@@BlueNeon81 Correct me if I'm wrong, but, DVDs are not PAL or NTSC, it's the player that determines the output. They are region encoded, but, the actual video stored is the same regardless
That VCR appears to be a euro market machine (most VCRs sold in Europe were multisystem but outputted PAL only). True multisystem VHS decks sold in the US do have the option to output NTSC video. Also, that VCR cannot play SECAM tapes from Metropolitan France. VCRs sold in France used a different, more complex, way of storing the native SECAM signal on tape. The rest of the world used MESECAM (Middle East SECAM) which basically converted the SECAM color signal to PAL and stored it on tape.
As for the HD-DVD/BD combo player, I can't say I'm surprised its broken. LG sold the same multisystem drives for PC use during the time period (the GGW-H10N and GGW-H20L).
They were usually models for the middle east and arabic countires. I have a bunch of early 80s multi system VCRs.
Machines for the EU market would, typically have a SCART connector or two.
True SECAM was very complex, and had 819 vertical lines. Like he said, most regions used 625 lines with SECAM color encoding.
The 819-line System E/F broadcasts were all in black and white. France went to the standard 625i/50 system when they started SECAM color broadcasts.
NJRoadfan Look at the languages. Russian and Arabic. Seems to me it's for the near east area.
Greetings from Austria ( not Australia ) in Europe. It's common in Europe that VHS VCR's have the function to Play any VHS Tape ( PAL / SECAM / NTSC ). Older VCR's also had the function to switch to different Voltages and you also had a switch to decide between BW and COLOR.
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Looks like DVD+R, not DVD-R.
The multi drive probably has a bad blue laser most these drive have two diodes one red for DVD and one Blue for the Blu Rays and HDDVDs. If you can find the parts for this drive and replace the whole laser mount it might work again.
Vcrs sold in my region (Asia Pacific) are almost always multisystem. Will play anything,as long as you also have multisystem TV to play it on. And that multi-voltage functionality really convince me that vcr was meant to be sold in my region.
If you want the ultimate VCR that plays all standards in their native format with no conversion needed as long as you have a multi standard TV or capture card it plays at 525 and 625 refresh rates, Plus it plays those standard in S-VHS and S-VHS ET, in addition it hasTBC and DNR and records in any standard in VHS, S-VHS and S-VHS ET, There is only one and only VCR that was ever made, It is the JVC HR-S7600AM.
This VCR will not play tapes from France (or to be precise, it will play them but only in black&white). It says "MESECAM" which is the SECAM variant used on VHS tapes in Eastern Europe and the Middle East (ME stands for Middle East), but France used a different variation of SECAM which is not mentioned. If it could play French tapes it would say "SECAM", "SECAM-West" or "SECAM-L".
This was really smart of LG back in the day. While everybody is fighting over who is better, they made a player that can read both discs. As a customer all you had to worry about was which movie you wanted to buy.
5:18 РУССКИЙ means Russian :D
In all the years of watching "Who framed Roger Rabbit" I've NEVER noticed the brand of the oven is HOTTERNELL HAHAHA Hotter than hell....AMAZING!
I use GoDVD to convert PAL to NTSC.
The drive in your player is a standard computer drive - just get a numbers matching drive to fix the unit.
WHAT PAL IS N, M, SECAM ?
My wife and I watched a lot of great movie on our Super Blue unit…. Good times ! 👍🏼
Had one of those combo drives in my desktop several years back. Picked it up in a junk pile was cool to play HD-DVD and Blu-ray on the same drive
You might try cleaning the laser emitter or lense, or whatever doohickey that points toward the underside of the disk :-).
PR = PRogram
A programmable memory for a RF tv channel. In the setup menu you would be able to tune it. Not that there would be anything to tune to these days. Unless you tune into the rf out of something like a C64.
Did you try a DVD+R? The logo on the front says its a DVD+ burner, not a DVD- burner. Personally I only use + discs due to their better design in addressing. It allows the drive to locate any part of the disc randomly, performing the same functions as DVD-RAM much cheaper. It is also immune to buffer underrun (not much of a problem these days) and multi session recording is handled in a much better way than DVD-
I think you need to clean the lens in the BD-ROM drive.
maidenfitter I still say it's worth a shot to try, I've had a couple laptop Blu-Ray drives that only needed a good cleaning to get working again.
the dust and dirt is really serious with such drives, but good luck to clean a Macbook internal drive-which is not opening like windows ones, i just don't want to messing with it(it damaging discs when writing) and bought the separate USB drive-the last Sony 50Gb blu-ray, which they've made in 2011, now they closed this business.
I think the solder goes bad on the laser diodes. The same fate affects PS3 consoles, resoldering fixes it. It'll be that awful lead-free solder mixture that is responsible for GPU issues (RROD and yellow light of dead), it just can't take the heat and fractures.
"PR1" means "Programm1" (Storage) it is the intelligent answer for the stubit question from JAPEN/USA "Channel". But what mean "Channel" ? In real a Channel is a Frequenzy grid and not the place where it is stored in the Recorder! So Now the question what is "Channel" and "Channel" you can't make a differnce. In Japan/US Videorecorders the Storage Position is also named "Channel" and this is Stubit! Because it means the same. In my eyes they shall say "Mem1" for the first Place where you can store this Channel or "ST1" it will also work.
PR = Pregnant Robot
Sounds like a robot is going to birth a kid
What surprises me is that your modern LCD televison didn't just switch systems to PAL automatically and display everything in colour off the bat.
Probably the TV's analog part is NTSC only.
To be honest, I would rather have bought an universal upscaler and connected it using HDMI instead of converting analog PAL to analog NTSC. You can see by the jittering menu text that the converter struggles to fit the PAL lines in an NTSC signal. Now we get the worst of both standards: 25 frames and 525 lines.
You can actually fix the BD drive by replacing the dead lasers.
Both multi playback systems are great.
I think the Hi-Fi tracks are different for PAL then for NTSC. If so, that’s why these VCR’s are mono only.
No, “modern” PAL VHS HiFi do play NTSC VHS HiFi
They just convert the color from NTSC to PAL and hope the TV goes ok with it.
Multi System VHS are able to record and playback PAL/MESECAM and NTSC. Some SECAM also.
Adding HFI and a stereo receiver for all these standards would have skyrocketed the price tag.
I own a Samsung SV-7000 which I only paid 10 dollars for at Goodwill in mint condition with the original remote control included and the vcr is fully functional! That's probably one of my best scores at a Goodwill store ever!!! 😊
that awesome vcr man
I have a cool Memorex Multi system VCR that will not only play international formats, but will output them too. Pretty cool.
hi there! i live in the UK and we quickly adapted to use SCART leads, so i am a bit confused to your vcr player not having a scart adapter on the back!
This seems to be a bit late in the life of VHS to make a consumer grade multi-region player, DVD had been dominating for years.
The PR 1 screen looks like denim.
You should set the NTSC selector to "NTSC 3.58", because that is the regular North American signal format. "NTSC 4.43" is a non-standard compromise format only found in multistandard VCRs and typically accepted by televisions sold in Europe. It was only ever used to cheaply bridge standard gaps. If you live in a proper NTSC country it is of no use, and selecting it will cause the image to be in black&white when playing an NTSC tape.
I'm in the UK and RF has been standard here for many years for terrestrial TV (from analog to digital). I'm surprised that it doesn't have scart as that was very commonplace for equipment of that era in the UK. If you get one with scart it may well output RGB and stereo audio via the massive scart socket (which I hear wasn't used in the U.S).
The first, last and only true multisystem VHS VCR (Pal to NTSC and reverse) I ever saw was in the (old) Philips company store in Eindhoven (before the company store moved to the Philips/PSV stadium). Late 80's. Semi-pro price. Over a thousand guilders at the time. Couldn't convince my dad we needed it. Spent the next 15 years or so dealing (unsuccessfully) trying to transfer stuff on consumer VCRs.
By the mid 90's pretty much everything was multisync. So a Pal VCR could play an NTSC tape. And a TV would play NTSC. So you could go to the U.S., buy a tape, and watch it. But connecting an old TV? Making your legal backup copy? Forget it!
HD-DVD? I may have one, still sealed. I probably also have a drive (possibly LG) that can play it on a PC while also supporting BD. Have I tested it? No! Will it be sitting in a crate somewhere collecting dust? Yes it will.
Hey, at least I have a brand new TED.
Pretty much most 90’s VCR’s in Australia could play NTSC tapes. And all tvs supported it. I guess for Americans it’s weird but here it is common place.
My HR-475ea outputs in PAL, NTSC & MESECAM, that is the weirdest multisystem VCR I’ve ever seen only outputting in PAL and not having a colour system button (which lets you change the outputs). With all that said even mine is relatively light and doesn’t have much under the cover.
And I know it’s putting out an NTSC Signal as I changed the settings on my TV and it went black and white like this TV in your video. Still that’s not doing bad considering Multisystems are more rarer in the states.
At least in Argentina, PAL-N has always been used more frequently.
(Al menos en Argentina,siempre se uso más frecuentemente PAL-N.)
En Argentina siempre se ha usado solamente PAL-N así estaba dispuesto por la ley de emisión de televisoras desde 1978 ATC
2개랜즈가 달려있습니다
1블루레이
2 DVD / CD용
롬드라이브기반 으로만들어있는대
다른 LG 롬을 을 넣는다면 작동할수있을것 같다
There are two lands.
1 Blu-ray
2 for DVD / CD
ROM drive based
It will work if you insert another LG ROM
Note: LG also released standalone SATA "computer" combo Blu-ray / HD DVD drives, including one that is a Blu-ray *BURNER* plus HD DVD reader (no retail HD DVD writers were ever made.) I still have one in my main desktop computer. I'm guessing your drive's blue laser is kaput.
In UK most TVS are NTSC compatible well DVDs from the USA go fine.
Isn't it a ntsc line inputs with a pal tuner? I hate to be ignorant. I've been to Australia, just not the UK or EU.
Very well done video, enjoyed it. Thank you!!
3.58 is standard NTSC, 4.43 is NTSC with a PAL color. If its a UK model its putting out standard PAL - I, most of these multi system were incapable of producing pal -m/n which is pal with 3.58 color (approx). The converter you have is low end they were used with video game consoles. The down converted signal ( which is stored on the tape) for PAL is the same its what the VCR produced as a result that matters. Panasonic and Aiwa in the UK produced VCRS that played back NTSC and PAL tapes and allowed you to switch between 3.58 and 4.43 they didnt changed the actual format just the color system used.
PR 1 “Program” 1. Unlike NTSC VCRs and TVs, European VCRs and TVs had a different way of storing TV station channel settings. You had an X amount of Programs (memory positions) that you can program to tune to a certain station’s channel. You can create your own order of channels by selecting band such as VHF 1, channel 1-6, VHF 2, channel 6-12, UHF channel 21-69 (USSR standard). The NTSC TVs and VCRs only have set channels starting with VHF channel 2. There is no channel 1 for some political reasons. You can only select to store or skip the certain channel but they are always in a certain order that you cannot change.
I own this device. It must be software related. It still plays BD, HD DVD, and DVD! Very interesting video. Have a good day!
I should try to keep a sharp eye on that kind of model and type of VCR if I ever see one around.
Always amuses me how "Multi System" VCRs are a "Holy Grail" in america when most later VCRs in PAL territories are multi system, as do most TVs. For a format only used in 2 countries it sure causes a lot of troubles!
Saw this popped up, INSTANTLY CLICKED
at one time i had a tv that was not only high def but also it converted signals from pal, secam and ntsc. to bad the tv dropped the blue color and died. it was a 2000 model Princeton Graphic Systems or just simply princeton and it also had the add on tv tuner. it was a monitor made for studios but man that thing was heavy and such but for a 27 inch box it got its use for what it was.
As a guess (not a Russian speaker) the second language connection is Cyrillic and since P=R in Cyrillic,Russian(rusky0 would be my guess). 3rd is Arabic or Persian,I think.
6:00 If your unit didn't come with a remote, you would not be able to change anything, so it would not be fully multifunction. This kind of flaw went on and on for years with nearly any consumer grade video device, and it's still the case today. Why? Why can't we have a navigation system on the unit itself to access all functions? I can understand technology limitations from back in the day, but it should be ridiculously easy to implement now!
Great video yes agree take the auto head cleaner out, they usually ruin heads, also even when they were new they use to put the dirt what they cleaned of back onto the heads, i use to manually clean heads with paper
You can tell that the VCR is not an European market unit as it doesn't have SCART connectors, which were the most common connector here in Europe for VCR's. The IEC antenna connectors are the type which is still used here in Europe.
I still use my vcr to this day
13:49
Ahh yes, my favorite 1080p format: Blue-lay.
I've a few questions...Is this 1080 hdmi friendly to a VIZIO flat screen TV in the US or do I need a converter? Where can I get this gem in the US?
It seems like you should be able to maybe put a new blu-ray drive in that LG player and have it work again.
I have the same JVC VCR and it is beautiful.
For the tape head cleaner, it looks like the foam is on a white wheel that snaps into the light-bone-colored plastic arm... it might be a better idea to remove the white wheel/spindle from the bone arm, than the entire arm as you mention...
well, so with that VCR you converted an NTSC vhs of roger rabbit into pal and with the white box into ntsc again ?
Nice Video. But, about the player... Had you tried to upgrade the firmware? I had found informations about this BH100 player that not play some bluray discs.
If you connect that SATA DVD drive to a computer directly on the motherboard you will be able to do all those functions like burn a DVD and all of that. The problem you are having has to do with that converter from SATA to USB. That has some compatibility issues because that little converter was designed for HDDs and not for Optical devices. Best regards and sorry about my poor english.
One day, somebody is going to make a single player that can play *every* optical format that physically fits in the drive. Even the obscure ones.
“Yes, even CD Video!”
I got a LG BH100 that plays some HDDVD discs and not others. Then I got THE LG BH200 model thats somewhat better. I found the firmware update that helped , I found that some HDDVD movies would not play in any HD DVD players I own . Would not even play in Microsofts xbox 360 but it at least showed a corrupt disc message.
LG will have put a very custom firmware on the drive. Although the hardware itself may well be a modified PC drive, that'll be because they had loads lying around. I remember this machine coming out and there being an issue where the blue laser failed very early on. In fact I also had a Samsung BD-ROM drive for my PC that failed after a year with a similar issue.
My very thought. Glad i'm not the only one who thought this. I have tested loads of these blu ray drives in the thrift store they are all DVD only at this point. For whatever reason they seem to fail to play blu rays. Software for the player expiring and then failing to play anymore? I wonder.
I don't know about thi particular unit but the old dvd recorder would work with almost any PC dvd burner, the only difference was that the original drive had custom firmware to limit cd speed to reduce noise, the pc drives would work but were much noisier because it would ramp up the cd speed.
Most of the VCR's sold in Europe were multi system since mid 90's, just like most of the TV's sold after 1999/2000.
Why Multi-System VCR are common in PAL countries but rare in NTSC countries? It's not fair that most of them can play our NTSC tapes but most of us can't play their PAL tapes. Most PAL TV are also Multi-System via AV input but not RF. But most NTSC TV are not Multi-System in both RF & AV and displays PAL in black & white. Our VCR which we bought in 1990s is a Multi-System Sony SLV-KH3 (PS) but it took me a while to find that model because most are Sony SLV-KH3 (PL) which is NTSC only. Our old TV was NTSC only with V-Hold and can display PAL tapes in black & white until in 2008 which we bought a Sony CRT TV model KV-AR212N60 which is Multi-System via AV input but NTSC only via RF. It's the first time I saw our PAL tapes in color.
What if you just replace the drive with another BD drive.
I knew there was a reason I never got any devices that could play Blu Ray discs. DVD at the most.
coondogtheman1234 won't work usually these drives are pared with the mother board you would have to find the exact same drive and replace the board of the drive with the new one and even then might still not work. I think he's issue is the Blu Ray lens if he can find a whole new laser rack and replace it I'm 100% sure it'll be back and running.
Depends, I have an old LG DVD recorder that the original drive would only play CDs, cleaning the lens wouldn't work, I tried swapping a few drives in and most of them still worked, even a sony burner worked, I think you just had to remove the master/slave jumper if I'm not mistaken (or leave it at master I'm not sure it was long ago), anyway even though the original drive was a simple burner with modified firmware to limit the speed to reduce noise, it had custom mounts to attach to the chassis, so I ended up dismantling a LG burner that coincidentaly had similar laser and PCB assemblies and swaped the insides from one another, it still works but when listening to CDs the drive speed up and it gets bit noisy.
@@t0nito I've heard that you can't do that with a ps3 drive also a ps4 drive because the drive and the main board at married in firmware and it's not as easy as swapping out a drive. I wouldn't think that this player in the video would be the same but I guess different drives need different drivers.
@@coondogtheman PS3 and PS4 are a different reality, the drives and motherboards are married per board, those are just Sony policies to keep "foreign" hands out of "their" equipment, as Sony, just like Apple do what they can to make third party repair as difficult as possible. I don't believe that these units have married drives, and may work with other BD drives but I may be wrong. Nothing like getting one and trying to find out, if it doesn't work it can atleast be used on a PC.
I own a samsung br-hddvd combo play that works great
13:46 Anyone noticed that it says 'Blue Lay' on the BD-Rom Drive?This device set you back a cool 1300$ MSRP back in 2009 but it was a neat thing back in the days of the format wars.
I have a 1997 UK Sony TV that can accept and display NTSC (as well as PAL of course) so i'm surprised your more modern US TV can't display PAL properly. I guess in the US there is less demand for that dual functionality.
Looks like the BD player was defective at some point and somebody swapped out the dead drive for a different unit. Apparently that didn't work, so they may have tried to update the drive firmware which kind of messed up the entire drive in the process.
If you can get a spare HL-01P drive, you can probably make it work as intended again.
Although the first blu-ray players officially came out in 2003 in Japan, the first US models didn't come until 2006 when Sony released the BDP-S1. It retailed for $999. So seeing a 2005 Manufacture Date for the unit itself and a November 2006 date for the drive doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
It could been a chassis discrepancy, or a repair done. Early player.
Hey databits, I was wondering if you might have the remote for the VCR. I actually have a really similar unit to yours and I lost the remote so I wondering if you could get the model number of that. Thanks
I wonder if that burner/bd-rom drive has custom firmware (bios) on it from the manufacturer (LG). Their licensing may prohibit them from using those features as a cost saving measure. Ie. they may have ordered the drives with only the playback functionality (and paid a lower cost per unit) and the bios does not have any extended functions set in it. That's my guess.
Did you try using a cleaner disc? Otherwise it's something with the laser. Either the focus or the power.
I bought an expensive LG BluRay/HD-DVD drive for my PC back in the days. It crapped out on me after a few years. Probably same drive as in your standalone machine. Still have a couple of HD-DVD movies, but nowhere to play them :)
So when the vhs tapes convert with the adapter will a pal vhs tape work on ntsc vcrs
The really sad part is that Sony get out from Blu-ray business, they closed drives production under their brand in 2011-12, only Korean and Chinese manufacturers left now at all and the quality of their hardware is horrific. Almost same with discs-only cheapest organic, non-organic (prolonged life) are hard to find or only rewritable need to buy.
Best definition for PR ever!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Congrats
Yes the RF connectors are from the UK 😁
And also does the pal ntsc secam converter works with pal secam vhs tapes
Does this have a1080 HDMI for flat screen?
Did you use an ntsc tv for this vcr unit
I really do hope that you do another video where your place another BD ROM drive into this machine to see if it would work. I have seen other videos on other channels of people just swapping out the drives that were broken to give new life to the player, and I would like to see this machine get another chance with another, working drive.
Robert Gaines it won't work most tines the drives are pared to the motherboard you have to find the exact same drive and even then still might not work
It's funny, my first Blue-Ray Player would not play DVD's despite it saying it does. It played Blue-Ray's just fine... after a minute or two of loading
Is this VCR palys PAL-M system?!
Maybe the drive just needs a lens cleanup?
I have a similar JVC VCR, except mine is HiFi Stereo. But it looks the same.
know anything about the Panasonic DMP-BD70V? I just picked one up, but I haven't used it yet.
Out of curiosity, what song are you using around 16:10?
The choice of languages are English, Russian and Arabic. So I guess it was meant for the Russian and Arabic markets
5:09 The 2nd entry on the list says "Russian" and the 3rd says "Arabic".
Hey i was wondering does this multisystem vcr player have HQ quality
The laser goes bad after a while, especially if you do a lot of recording.
I would try to replace that drive with a new PC Blu-ray drive to see if you can get it going.
I wonder what the service port is used for. It looks a normal ethernet port.
you should try to get a GGC-H20L PC Drive and see if you can install into it
you should flash it with a firmware to activate all the functions.
But does it play PAL-M?
Great video! Truth be told, the BH100 was a piece of junk. It wasn’t even certified as a real HD-DVD player because it could not play back HDi content from HD-DVD discs. The BH200 is the far superior model. I own two of them and they both still work to this day. As a Bonus, you can also use the BH200 as a multiregion Blu-ray player.