One of my all time favourites! The mission disks are great too! Lots of new missions to find and complete! Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
I loved my ST. Seeing some of those boxes brought back memories of some of the 'originals' that I had back in the day. I only owned 7 or 8 of your choices and would add dungeon master, oids gauntlet 2, Xenon, Speedball and R-type which I remember having original copies of for sure but many slip my mind amongst all of the pompey pirates and medway boys disks. I did get an amiga a couple of years after my ST and some of them I got on that system though (Lotus and Batman). Nowadays my st games are played via the MiSTer fpga and its far more powerful than any ST I ever owned which is just fantastic.
I played a lot of those games you mentioned on the Commodore Amiga, or much later on when I took up this collecting lark. There is so much nostalgia for me for the games in this video, and it's quite possible that a handful made the list because of that reason. I could never get on with Oids, or any other Thrust clone for that matter, but I know that it is highly regarded. Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment. 👍🏻
The ST certainly wasn't a bad machine, and it was definately a step from the Amstrad, Spectrum and C64! Merry Christmas to you and your family matey! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
Great video! You have an excellent collection. Xenon 2,Blood Money, Supercars (2!) and IK+ are also my favourites too. I’m missing Wings of Death (what a masterpiece), Turrican 2, SWIV and The Chaos Engine. Thanks for your video!
Thank you for your kind words. I do love the Atari ST! I have some lovely memories attached to all of the games listed in this video. I appreciated you taking the time out to watch and leave a comment! 👍🏻
Although I've only played the amiga versions you still picked some personal favourites and a few I've never heard of. I have to say I was impressed, I expected to be able to see the differences between these and the amiga versions.
The differences between ST and Amiga were quite subtle in the early years. A lot of the older Amiga games were just straight ports, with a few extra colours, and better sound, but they tended to be slower in many cases. Merry Christmas to you and your family mate! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
Great stroll down memory lane. Missing Dungeon Master which is my all time favourite. Also for racers Vroom, Stunt Car Racer and SuperSprint (local three player) were all great fun.
I have never played Dungeon Master before, but I do know it is held in high regard. Vroom is a really good race, as is Stunt Car racer. I owned neither before this collecting lark took hold. I have them both on the Amiga, so they may make that list. I never rated Super Sprint personally. I was never really into that genre of game. Thank you for your comment! 😊
@@MrBads_Games Dungeon Master is still my favourite game of all time and the only game that has made me get a system just so that I could play one particular game. It is reckoned that at one point more than 50% of Atari ST owners had purchased a copy of Dungeon Master.
Dungeon Master is by far the best ST game, for me my best party was Halk the Barbarian, Gothmog, Hisssssa Lizard of Makan & Hawk the Fearless. I remember playing it for months when I was young and more recently played on an emulator and taking days to get to the same point, lol. Zo Kath Rah! X
I totally agree! I used to love crossing the ball in the box, and smashing it into the top corner! I played this throughout the summer of 1990 with a good friend of mine. We spend way too many hours on it! 🤣
Some of my favourite Ocean games of all time too! 😍 I love Crack Down, and it's such a nostagic game to me too! 😂 I managed to complete it last year (It took a hell of a lot of lives to complete it mind!) The ST version is way easier than the Amiga version too! Cheers buddy! Merry Christmas to you! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
Archipelagos is a great game, I remember playing the demo for hours on end. It can become a bit of a pressure pot at times! 😅 I have never played Elite or Dungeon Master 😲 Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment.
It's an underated game in my opinion. The ST conversion is fantastic too, and it plays better than the Amiga version! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
Well, here's a refreshing take on some of the STs library. Some personal faves in there and nice to see some different titles normally excluded and DM not at #1. Damocles, Op Stealth, Supercars, Lotus, really were/are amazing titles.
I have never played some of the all time great ST titles, so they are missing from the list because I don't own them 😂 Some would appear on an Amiga list though. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! It's much appreciated.
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Interesting to see your selection, but my cross-over would be perhaps 3 or 4 games. So much to choose from that another persons list could look completely different.
There's so many games to choose from isn't there. I've not *played* more than 150 games on the ST, so my choice was quite limited to be honest when selecting these titles. Dungeon Master is one of those titles that crops up quite often, but I have never played it. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
A good mix of ST ‘sacred cows’ and more personal choices, and also (towards the top end) of action games and more cerebral ones. Would be quite different to my own, although some of mine you would probably think of and own as Amiga games eg Turrican 2, Speedball 2.
Ah, there's loads of games like Speedball 2 and Turrican 2 that I didn't play until I got an Amiga. I had a go of Speedball 2 on the ST, but nowhere near enough to really appreciate it. It would certainly appear in the Amiga video! 😍 Merry Christmas to you and your family Will! 🎁🎄🎅🏻
Other good games on the Atari ST were Geoff Crammond's F1 GP, Microprose Golf, Hostages, Defender of the Crown, Bubble Bobble, Populous 2, and Powemonger to name but a few.
I remember a time travelling graphic adventure on the Atari ST I cannot remember what it was called it's not Future Wars: Time Traveller. In the game I think you had to travel back in time to various times Like the Napoleonic wars or something similar it was many years ago and my ST ended up getting fried by my older brother. My memory is pretty terrible too. I wish I could remember what it was called I've searched lists and everything.
I have that one on the Commodore Amiga. It's a tough game from what I remember. The ST version is identical from what I've seen and heard. Thank you for watching! 👍🏻
There was certainly quite a difference graphically, between the Amiga and ST versions of Super Cars, and even more so with the sequel. I tend to like all types of games really, but I've always had a soft spot for open world games. Merry Christmas to you and your family, Stu!
Robocop 2 was my first pirate. I didn't know anyone w/ ST on Amiga-land. Then a friend of mine came back from his vacation with 10 disks of pirated goodies. Robocop wasn't my favourite tbh.
Super Hang-On - It always annoyed me that the Amiga and ST versions were the only home ports of this game where the other riders intentionally try to crash into you. Any time you're on a straight section of track, all the other riders will be leaning in your direction and slowly crossing the track toward you. Going around curves, often another rider will zip over, hit you, then instantly zip back to the other side. Even so, I used yo be able to complete the Beginner course. I could never beat any of the others though. This was the best of the Sega ports though. Space Harrier - I was very disappointed when I got this for the Amiga. It looked OK, but the movement was very choppy and the fireballs fired by the enemies reached you in about half a second. They couldn't even be bothered to use the arcade voice and sounds. Thunderblade was rather poor, and the controls made it pretty much unplayable. Alien Syndrome was decent, but they left out two of the levels! Outrun was garbage, as was Power Drift. I never liked Alien Storm, so I don't really have an opinion on that one.
I totally agree wirth you regarding SEGA ports to the 16 Bit micros. They should have been so much better, especially Out Run! I found that most driving games had the same problem with computer controlled opponents, especially WEC Le Mans on the Spectrum 🤣 Cheating Gits!! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
@@MrBads_Games The C64 port of Power Drift was actually pretty good. They knew that they couldn't replicate the arcade's graphics, so they concentrated on making it run fast and smooth. Also, while the C64 version of Thunderblade wasn't any more playable than the 16-bit versions, due to the joysticks of the time not having enough buttons for controlling the speed, it did have slightly more detailed building graphics in the overhead view. The 16-bit versions basically just had gray and black layers, while the C64 version had rooftop graphics and fancy edges. Sadly, when it switches to 3D, the buildings are just rectangles. As for computer opponents, I've noticed that in many racing games of the era, the other cars will just slowly drift back and forth across the track. It's annoying, but predictable. However in Super Hang-On, they always seem to be coming toward you. One time, I was on a long, straight section of track and the other bikes were leaning toward me. As I passed one bike, it straightened up, as if the rider realized that he could no longer hit me and just gave up.
100% Player Manager is a brilliant Footie RPG before FIFA career mode was even gleam in EA's eye. =) I took so many squads from 3rd to first division as a midfielder or striker . manager. Brilliant game.
Too bad STE models came out late. That alone severely hindered the quality of ST games compared to Amiga. I praise Atari ST for its place in MIDI and Desktop publishing back in the days but games were not a strong point, always worse than Amiga versions in at least one aspect, mainly sounds and music and very often in graphics and smoothness as well. STE hardware-wise was on par with A500 but ST(F(M)) was stuck somewhere between C64/Atari XL and A500. Then Falcon repeated STEs fate when compared to Amiga 1200, except it was even more capable, but again - way too late. What a shame!
Very Excellent #1 choice!!
One of my all time favourites! The mission disks are great too! Lots of new missions to find and complete! Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
I loved my ST. Seeing some of those boxes brought back memories of some of the 'originals' that I had back in the day. I only owned 7 or 8 of your choices and would add dungeon master, oids gauntlet 2, Xenon, Speedball and R-type which I remember having original copies of for sure but many slip my mind amongst all of the pompey pirates and medway boys disks. I did get an amiga a couple of years after my ST and some of them I got on that system though (Lotus and Batman). Nowadays my st games are played via the MiSTer fpga and its far more powerful than any ST I ever owned which is just fantastic.
I played a lot of those games you mentioned on the Commodore Amiga, or much later on when I took up this collecting lark. There is so much nostalgia for me for the games in this video, and it's quite possible that a handful made the list because of that reason. I could never get on with Oids, or any other Thrust clone for that matter, but I know that it is highly regarded.
Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment. 👍🏻
@@MrBads_Games I played some of them on the Amiga as well as after a few years I got an a1200 which I still have although I don't collect for it.
What an absolute joy to see different games!! Most videos like this would pick the same old games over & over… this video rocks!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for your kind words Sir! 😍
@@MrBads_GamesI've never played the mission disks! Will check that out. Thanks!!
I never realised the st looked so good Paul buddy, there some belters there 😄 hang on, rainbow islands, operation wolf 😍
The ST certainly wasn't a bad machine, and it was definately a step from the Amstrad, Spectrum and C64!
Merry Christmas to you and your family matey! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
Good selection, Mr. Bad!
Thank you Sir. 👍🏻 Merry Christmas! 🎄
Great video! You have an excellent collection. Xenon 2,Blood Money, Supercars (2!) and IK+ are also my favourites too. I’m missing Wings of Death (what a masterpiece), Turrican 2, SWIV and The Chaos Engine. Thanks for your video!
Thank you for your kind words. I do love the Atari ST! I have some lovely memories attached to all of the games listed in this video.
I appreciated you taking the time out to watch and leave a comment! 👍🏻
Although I've only played the amiga versions you still picked some personal favourites and a few I've never heard of.
I have to say I was impressed, I expected to be able to see the differences between these and the amiga versions.
The differences between ST and Amiga were quite subtle in the early years. A lot of the older Amiga games were just straight ports, with a few extra colours, and better sound, but they tended to be slower in many cases.
Merry Christmas to you and your family mate! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
Loved this Paul.....so much nostalgia for the ST👌
I thought you'd like this one Marcus! 👍🏻
Merry Christmas mate!🎅🏻🎄🎁
Cheers! Super Hang-on out of Power Pack was my first love ❤️.
I though that it was a fantastic conversion on the ST 😍
Great stroll down memory lane. Missing Dungeon Master which is my all time favourite. Also for racers Vroom, Stunt Car Racer and SuperSprint (local three player) were all great fun.
I have never played Dungeon Master before, but I do know it is held in high regard.
Vroom is a really good race, as is Stunt Car racer. I owned neither before this collecting lark took hold. I have them both on the Amiga, so they may make that list. I never rated Super Sprint personally. I was never really into that genre of game.
Thank you for your comment! 😊
@@MrBads_Games Dungeon Master is still my favourite game of all time and the only game that has made me get a system just so that I could play one particular game. It is reckoned that at one point more than 50% of Atari ST owners had purchased a copy of Dungeon Master.
Dungeon Master is by far the best ST game, for me my best party was Halk the Barbarian, Gothmog, Hisssssa Lizard of Makan & Hawk the Fearless. I remember playing it for months when I was young and more recently played on an emulator and taking days to get to the same point, lol.
Zo Kath Rah!
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Oh man, that amazing Rock n Roll chiptune brings back memories.
It does have some great music doesn't it. It's one of the highlights of the game, for me!
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
Scoring a good goal in Kick Off 2 was one of the most satisfying moments in gaming.
I totally agree! I used to love crossing the ball in the box, and smashing it into the top corner! I played this throughout the summer of 1990 with a good friend of mine. We spend way too many hours on it! 🤣
You own a good selection of games mate for the ST. A decent machine. The only one I would have wanted more from would be X - Out. Good stuff.
Cheers mate! I tend to like all types of games really, especially when they're well made!
Merry Christmas Ash! 🎅🏻🎄🎁
Great list, Frontier Elite 2 would be my number 1
I loved Frontier on the Amiga! It would certainly be represented in that Amiga list! 😍
Merry Christmas mate! 🎁👍🏻😍
Great video. A fair few ocean games in there,dont think crack down should be on any best of list though. Suprised no pang or stunt racer
Some of my favourite Ocean games of all time too! 😍
I love Crack Down, and it's such a nostagic game to me too! 😂 I managed to complete it last year (It took a hell of a lot of lives to complete it mind!) The ST version is way easier than the Amiga version too!
Cheers buddy! Merry Christmas to you! 🎄🎁🎅🏻
@MrBads' Games happy Xmas to u too phil
Look forward to the next vid
Rainbow islands.. I'd forgotten that, which is weird when I think how many days I must have played it lol
One of the all time great platform games! I still love playing it today! 😍
Thank you for watching the video!👍🏻
i loved Archipelagos such a great game. Of course I believe you omitted Elite and Dungeon Master LOL
Archipelagos is a great game, I remember playing the demo for hours on end. It can become a bit of a pressure pot at times! 😅 I have never played Elite or Dungeon Master 😲
Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment.
Crackdown! Great choice, it's never on anybody's list but it's a great game and conversion!
It's an underated game in my opinion. The ST conversion is fantastic too, and it plays better than the Amiga version!
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
Well, here's a refreshing take on some of the STs library. Some personal faves in there and nice to see some different titles normally excluded and DM not at #1.
Damocles, Op Stealth, Supercars, Lotus, really were/are amazing titles.
I have never played some of the all time great ST titles, so they are missing from the list because I don't own them 😂
Some would appear on an Amiga list though.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! It's much appreciated.
Interesting to see your selection, but my cross-over would be perhaps 3 or 4 games. So much to choose from that another persons list could look completely different.
There's so many games to choose from isn't there. I've not *played* more than 150 games on the ST, so my choice was quite limited to be honest when selecting these titles. Dungeon Master is one of those titles that crops up quite often, but I have never played it.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
A good mix of ST ‘sacred cows’ and more personal choices, and also (towards the top end) of action games and more cerebral ones. Would be quite different to my own, although some of mine you would probably think of and own as Amiga games eg Turrican 2, Speedball 2.
Ah, there's loads of games like Speedball 2 and Turrican 2 that I didn't play until I got an Amiga. I had a go of Speedball 2 on the ST, but nowhere near enough to really appreciate it. It would certainly appear in the Amiga video! 😍
Merry Christmas to you and your family Will! 🎁🎄🎅🏻
What emulator are you using to play those cool games.
The emulator that I've been using in this video is STEEM 👍🏻
Other good games on the Atari ST were Geoff Crammond's F1 GP, Microprose Golf, Hostages, Defender of the Crown, Bubble Bobble, Populous 2, and Powemonger to name but a few.
Thank you! I have all those great classics on the Amiga now, but never played them back in the day (except Populous) I spend hours playing that game.
I remember a time travelling graphic adventure on the Atari ST I cannot remember what it was called it's not Future Wars: Time Traveller. In the game I think you had to travel back in time to various times Like the Napoleonic wars or something similar it was many years ago and my ST ended up getting fried by my older brother. My memory is pretty terrible too. I wish I could remember what it was called I've searched lists and everything.
I have been trying to think of which game this could be! I'm still no closer to finding out though! 😅 Have you had any more luck?
The ST and Amiga games looked better than the 16bit console games sometimes.
Wings of death is probably the greatest shooter on the ST. I recommend it if you have not played it.
I have that one on the Commodore Amiga. It's a tough game from what I remember. The ST version is identical from what I've seen and heard. Thank you for watching! 👍🏻
What about Great Giana Sisters? That was a great game!
It's a highly regarded platformer, but unfortunately not for me.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
You like your 3d polygonal games then mate! i didnt realise how poor the cars on super cars look compared to the miggy version!
There was certainly quite a difference graphically, between the Amiga and ST versions of Super Cars, and even more so with the sequel. I tend to like all types of games really, but I've always had a soft spot for open world games.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Stu!
Robocop 2 was my first pirate. I didn't know anyone w/ ST on Amiga-land. Then a friend of mine came back from his vacation with 10 disks of pirated goodies. Robocop wasn't my favourite tbh.
I preferred Robocop 2 to the original. A difficult game though!
Thank you for watching and commenting on the video! 😍
Super Hang-On - It always annoyed me that the Amiga and ST versions were the only home ports of this game where the other riders intentionally try to crash into you. Any time you're on a straight section of track, all the other riders will be leaning in your direction and slowly crossing the track toward you. Going around curves, often another rider will zip over, hit you, then instantly zip back to the other side. Even so, I used yo be able to complete the Beginner course. I could never beat any of the others though. This was the best of the Sega ports though.
Space Harrier - I was very disappointed when I got this for the Amiga. It looked OK, but the movement was very choppy and the fireballs fired by the enemies reached you in about half a second. They couldn't even be bothered to use the arcade voice and sounds.
Thunderblade was rather poor, and the controls made it pretty much unplayable. Alien Syndrome was decent, but they left out two of the levels! Outrun was garbage, as was Power Drift. I never liked Alien Storm, so I don't really have an opinion on that one.
I totally agree wirth you regarding SEGA ports to the 16 Bit micros. They should have been so much better, especially Out Run! I found that most driving games had the same problem with computer controlled opponents, especially WEC Le Mans on the Spectrum 🤣 Cheating Gits!!
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻
@@MrBads_Games The C64 port of Power Drift was actually pretty good. They knew that they couldn't replicate the arcade's graphics, so they concentrated on making it run fast and smooth. Also, while the C64 version of Thunderblade wasn't any more playable than the 16-bit versions, due to the joysticks of the time not having enough buttons for controlling the speed, it did have slightly more detailed building graphics in the overhead view. The 16-bit versions basically just had gray and black layers, while the C64 version had rooftop graphics and fancy edges. Sadly, when it switches to 3D, the buildings are just rectangles.
As for computer opponents, I've noticed that in many racing games of the era, the other cars will just slowly drift back and forth across the track. It's annoying, but predictable. However in Super Hang-On, they always seem to be coming toward you. One time, I was on a long, straight section of track and the other bikes were leaning toward me. As I passed one bike, it straightened up, as if the rider realized that he could no longer hit me and just gave up.
I miss being a kid
Same here, mate. Same here. Those were easier times, weren't they.
if you consider those to be best ST games you probably missed 90% of the ST's real gems....
I consider them being the best ST games in my collection! 👍🏻
@@MrBads_Games Hi, if you still play ST games I can make some suggestions.....
The best ST game is Anco's Player Manager.
I've never played that one. It's on my want list though! 😍
100% Player Manager is a brilliant Footie RPG before FIFA career mode was even gleam in EA's eye. =)
I took so many squads from 3rd to first division as a midfielder or striker . manager. Brilliant game.
Too bad STE models came out late. That alone severely hindered the quality of ST games compared to Amiga. I praise Atari ST for its place in MIDI and Desktop publishing back in the days but games were not a strong point, always worse than Amiga versions in at least one aspect, mainly sounds and music and very often in graphics and smoothness as well. STE hardware-wise was on par with A500 but ST(F(M)) was stuck somewhere between C64/Atari XL and A500. Then Falcon repeated STEs fate when compared to Amiga 1200, except it was even more capable, but again - way too late. What a shame!