I agree fully with you, not only everything you mentioned but wouldn't you think Cannon THEMSELVES would want it to last forever? Like oh hey, free advertising!
I'm not one to gripe about aesthetics as long as performance is good but it isnt great for marketing and brand recognition. Without a name on the side it just looks like another bar without paint.
I don't think your wrong at all to expect the best quality from them. But I've used spray paint and clear coat and it lasted a long long time. Heck poulan bars aren't coated and the logos last quite a while. 👍🏻 Challenging someone or a company to do better is what it takes, its not a bad thing at all in my eyes and moves the standards forward and drives innovation to get better and do the best you can.
I’ve noticed that but at the same time I never really cared enough about it to think about it but that’s a great point, but to me I just don’t care, to me it’s a tool and as long as it functions I don’t care what it looks like, I don’t buy them to show off but it’s a good point for people who care about the appearance, I have a Oregon power match plus from if I remember the 90s and it’s still in damn good shape but idk that’s just my opinion
Yeah I've got a few Cannon super bars and the orange paint came off them really quick. I figured the Cannon paint just didn't geehaw very well with my cheap bar oil but seems that's not the case at all...
Yes, the first black and orange cannon bar I purchased, I ran the other day with that 357xp. Orange paint is peeling but not near like the one in the video.
Wow, chainsaw bar is good quality, but the brand logo can't stay on that long without wearing off. Wow, that is a shock😮 cant blame you on calling them out on that
Your Version looks very good! I cannot believe that it rubbs off like that. I feel like they maybe don't care because the functionality is still there. I try to keep my bars looking good by not hammering them. My Holzfforma bars have all their paint and printing and it wont go away! They still say "for the working man" and the bars are literally crumbing away. hahaha
Could be the material being printed on maybe ? That sucks their nice looking units. The cannons I have are old old school, hot blued with red print so far haven't shown any wear but these are probably from the 80s
Stihl bars and husky bars stay on there pretty darn good. What a crappy situation id probably be a little upset about that. A bar like that for the price you pay.
@@kylecromp319 a special electro etch with a twist. Been doing it for years on various metals. Aluminum is the most difficult, and that’s where Cannon prints on their Duralite bars.
You're not wrong. I bet if you looked down near the bar mount you'll see the bar information laser etched into it so there's no reason in my mind they can't laser etch the name into the bar other than they are selling ketchup popsicles for the price of a Klondike bar.
I've never bought a cannon but i did get a new Husky light and we know of course its a Sugi but i cut my 6 cord of firewood with it last year and started getting my wood for this coming winter early so i know ive got at least 9 cord on it and the lettering is just starting to wear i noticed. To me thats pretty good far as wear!
If your using a bar for wood cutting GTG's where everyone's just showing off with the hey look what I've got then I guess it matter's, if your a production cutter falling every day then it makes no difference. Most people I know who cut for their paycheck run mostly Stihl Husqvarna or Oregon bar's simply on how much wood can you cut for the least amount of money spent, expensive bar's don't make the grade no matter how nice they look or even how good they might be. Two or three bar's to one in cost is a no brainer and you get a fresh bar two or three times as often, sorry I know you probably don't want to hear it but that's the real world most of us live in.
No offense taken, I appreciate the insight. I have many different brand bars, these cannon seem to hold up the best for what I do. And no, it doesn’t matter at all in quality of cut, it’s the statement Cannon is making here. I feel like they don’t care, or take pride in their name/brand. If you know there’s a process that’s better for even cheaper, but you neglect to use it, is what does not make sense to me. If it were my company, the logo would be on my bars when my grandchildren use them 20/30 years from now.
@@IndianaDoug I understand what your saying it's the little details that sometimes can get under one's skin, Cannon is probably banking on most of their user's being pro logger's that don't care about look's so long as it performs and does as advertised. But yes if your paying top dollar you would expect more just to expensive for a lot of us regardless, not hating on Cannon just simple economics is all.
@@StuInTheSticks absolutely not, I love the bars. I can’t imagine the marketing team at Cannon. “Oh our logo rubs off after the first use? Thats ok we don’t need advertising.” I just don’t get a lot about this 😆
@@IndianaDoug Just a guess but they (Cannon) probably spent big money on some sort of new/ish labeling machine and are going to use it till the bitter end to recoup their money's out of it. like I said just a guess but have seen this type of thing with other company's trying to save a nickel but their reputation take's a hit in the end. I'm sure by now their well aware of the problem but till the end they'll ride it lol!
Good slap Doug”like a Chinese Bar”! Seems to be the same story for almost anything made today! They just don’t have the QC over their product (s) and seems they really don’t care as they already got their money! No you are not wrong calling them out but then they look at it as another whinning customer! Just the way the world of production goes!
Thank you! I’m getting some bad feedback by ppl thinking I only care about the “look” NOT THE CASE! What happened to taking pride in every facet of your product? Why is this even an argument?🤦🏻♂️
@@IndianaDoug There is no argument but it proves that all the mfg. cares about is if it is good enough to get out the door! Not that it is made correctly etc. but just get it out to sell! This is how the clone saw mfg. are catching up to the name brands they copy ! They send people like you with knowledge and respect your input then they do the upgrades and the product gets better and better till they rival the real deal!
@@IndianaDoug I picked up a very clean hardly used Makita/Dolmar 6421 which I put a OEM 7900 top end on and had it ported. Man I’ll tell you my first Dolmar and now I’m looking for a new home for my Stihl MS661 that is Eagan ported. I sure see why you like those Dolmar/Makitas they are awesome!
@@chevy7134 their website shows the same bars that I have currently. I bet it coming from Oz had something to do with it. Kind of like the new Husqvarna XTough Lite bars. The North American bars are made by Sugihara, whereas everywhere else they’re made by Tsumara.
Just playing advocate here (because that's really weird for a cannon bar), but is it possible the saw isn't oiling properly, causing heat? Just a thought. Thanks Doug!
Did it change the performance....no, but it doesn't instill confidence in the product. I also think it's idiocy on cannons part because that is basically free advertising
Doug, just for giggles approach Cannon with YOUR procedure (or at least get those folks feedback AFTER they see your vid) and IF they are interested then maybe the two of you can get a financial option going for your information on how to improve their final product. It’s at least worth a shot. 😮
I’d chat with them simply because I love the bars, but not at all why I made the video. Just a point that if little ol me can diy something I KNOW for a fact they can do better.
Have you purchased a Cannon Duralite Superbar? I have every bar on the market, performance wise these have definitely held up the best(other than the print).
I got 2 of em an been beatn on 1 of em for 2yr in log woods an some firewood 2. Not a big deal 2 me personallly but i to lost the print literlly the 1st day lol. But there bars are holdn up well thus far changed 1 tip on only 1 bar 1 time in 2 years im pleased but dam they are expensive.
Like a Snap-on logo wearing off in only an hour of use.
Yes, great comparison
so wonderful beautiful video my best friend i love it see so nice
For that kinda money the bar better do more than cut wood if ya pick up what I’m laying down 😂…seriously tho that’s unacceptable
Right, they hold up better than any bar I’ve had. Seems like the printing would too.
Better come with some extras at that price if you know what I mean... 😏😏😏😏
Ran Stihl bars for over 25yrs, with close to 1,000,000 trees. Never felt the need to buy a cannon.
1 bar, and 2 tips a year.
Definitely call them out. I have Poulan bars from the late 70's and 80's that still clearly say Poulan on them after years and years of use.
I agree fully with you, not only everything you mentioned but wouldn't you think Cannon THEMSELVES would want it to last forever? Like oh hey, free advertising!
Exactly!!!
As long as the bar itself isn’t wearing super quick. Whatever. Keep cutting
Yikes. Their carving bars still seem good, although I perfer the Stihl carver bars for availability.
That sucks. They're supposed to be the very pinnacle of chainsaw bars. For $250 that isn't acceptable IMO.
You're not paying for the print on the bar but the performance of the bar.
for $250, I decide what I’m paying for.
I'm not one to gripe about aesthetics as long as performance is good but it isnt great for marketing and brand recognition. Without a name on the side it just looks like another bar without paint.
Very good point.
I don't think your wrong at all to expect the best quality from them. But I've used spray paint and clear coat and it lasted a long long time. Heck poulan bars aren't coated and the logos last quite a while. 👍🏻 Challenging someone or a company to do better is what it takes, its not a bad thing at all in my eyes and moves the standards forward and drives innovation to get better and do the best you can.
Thanks bud👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
ive noticed oregons screen printing is super durable
It is!
I’ve noticed that but at the same time I never really cared enough about it to think about it but that’s a great point, but to me I just don’t care, to me it’s a tool and as long as it functions I don’t care what it looks like, I don’t buy them to show off but it’s a good point for people who care about the appearance, I have a Oregon power match plus from if I remember the 90s and it’s still in damn good shape but idk that’s just my opinion
I’ve kept my mouth shut for over 4 years.
Yeah I've got a few Cannon super bars and the orange paint came off them really quick. I figured the Cannon paint just didn't geehaw very well with my cheap bar oil but seems that's not the case at all...
Yes, the first black and orange cannon bar I purchased, I ran the other day with that 357xp. Orange paint is peeling but not near like the one in the video.
Wow, chainsaw bar is good quality, but the brand logo can't stay on that long without wearing off. Wow, that is a shock😮 cant blame you on calling them out on that
Your Version looks very good! I cannot believe that it rubbs off like that. I feel like they maybe don't care because the functionality is still there. I try to keep my bars looking good by not hammering them. My Holzfforma bars have all their paint and printing and it wont go away! They still say "for the working man" and the bars are literally crumbing away. hahaha
Exactly!
Could be the material being printed on maybe ? That sucks their nice looking units. The cannons I have are old old school, hot blued with red print so far haven't shown any wear but these are probably from the 80s
Yeah, those days are gone. Those are the bars that made Cannon famous.
Oregon works for me…..too cheap for them bazooka bars.
Stihl bars and husky bars stay on there pretty darn good. What a crappy situation id probably be a little upset about that. A bar like that for the price you pay.
If it was an isolated incident, I’d understand. But apparently every bar is like this. I’ve spoke with others and have seen many examples.
@@IndianaDoug for 250 bucks that sucker better stay on there for the life of me. I like what you did on the other side. How do you do that?
@@kylecromp319 a special electro etch with a twist. Been doing it for years on various metals. Aluminum is the most difficult, and that’s where Cannon prints on their Duralite bars.
You're not wrong. I bet if you looked down near the bar mount you'll see the bar information laser etched into it so there's no reason in my mind they can't laser etch the name into the bar other than they are selling ketchup popsicles for the price of a Klondike bar.
Yep, it’s lasered on the bar and the tip.
You would think that they would want their name on the bar to advertise at least ....
Exactly! If it were my company, I sure would.
Maybe they have to use super enviro friendly paint/ink per Canadian requirements. Just speculating.
🤣 perhaps. I know the older bars never had this issue.
*_They should be laser engraving those. That would last a long time._* What did you do? Is it just paint? Did you etch it?
They do laser the bar model and tip(small). I just etched mine.
I've never bought a cannon but i did get a new Husky light and we know of course its a Sugi but i cut my 6 cord of firewood with it last year and started getting my wood for this coming winter early so i know ive got at least 9 cord on it and the lettering is just starting to wear i noticed. To me thats pretty good far as wear!
That’s great. I have that bar too
Your completely right
If your using a bar for wood cutting GTG's where everyone's just showing off with the hey look what I've got then I guess it matter's, if your a production cutter falling every day then it makes no difference. Most people I know who cut for their paycheck run mostly Stihl Husqvarna or Oregon bar's simply on how much wood can you cut for the least amount of money spent, expensive bar's don't make the grade no matter how nice they look or even how good they might be. Two or three bar's to one in cost is a no brainer and you get a fresh bar two or three times as often, sorry I know you probably don't want to hear it but that's the real world most of us live in.
No offense taken, I appreciate the insight. I have many different brand bars, these cannon seem to hold up the best for what I do. And no, it doesn’t matter at all in quality of cut, it’s the statement Cannon is making here. I feel like they don’t care, or take pride in their name/brand. If you know there’s a process that’s better for even cheaper, but you neglect to use it, is what does not make sense to me. If it were my company, the logo would be on my bars when my grandchildren use them 20/30 years from now.
@@IndianaDoug I understand what your saying it's the little details that sometimes can get under one's skin, Cannon is probably banking on most of their user's being pro logger's that don't care about look's so long as it performs and does as advertised. But yes if your paying top dollar you would expect more just to expensive for a lot of us regardless, not hating on Cannon just simple economics is all.
@@StuInTheSticks absolutely not, I love the bars. I can’t imagine the marketing team at Cannon. “Oh our logo rubs off after the first use? Thats ok we don’t need advertising.” I just don’t get a lot about this 😆
@@IndianaDoug Just a guess but they (Cannon) probably spent big money on some sort of new/ish labeling machine and are going to use it till the bitter end to recoup their money's out of it. like I said just a guess but have seen this type of thing with other company's trying to save a nickel but their reputation take's a hit in the end. I'm sure by now their well aware of the problem but till the end they'll ride it lol!
@@StuInTheSticks good point
Maybe tag them in this video?
I will, but they only have one video and it’s 3 years old
@IndianaDoug Email them this video. Hell, I will even do it if you want.
That’s to bad for the money you are paying.
Good slap Doug”like a Chinese Bar”! Seems to be the same story for almost anything made today! They just don’t have the QC over their product (s) and seems they really don’t care as they already got their money! No you are not wrong calling them out but then they look at it as another whinning customer! Just the way the world of production goes!
Thank you! I’m getting some bad feedback by ppl thinking I only care about the “look” NOT THE CASE! What happened to taking pride in every facet of your product? Why is this even an argument?🤦🏻♂️
@@IndianaDoug
There is no argument but it proves that all the mfg. cares about is if it is good enough to get out the door! Not that it is made correctly etc. but just get it out to sell! This is how the clone saw mfg. are catching up to the name brands they copy ! They send people like you with knowledge and respect your input then they do the upgrades and the product gets better and better till they rival the real deal!
@@forrestebert5276 verbatim to what I said when arguing. You get it! Our grandfathers would have a fit with the lack of pride in quality these days.
@@IndianaDoug
I picked up a very clean hardly used Makita/Dolmar 6421 which I put a OEM 7900 top end on and had it ported. Man I’ll tell you my first Dolmar and now I’m looking for a new home for my Stihl MS661 that is Eagan ported. I sure see why you like those Dolmar/Makitas they are awesome!
@forrestebert5276 same power to weight as a 500i but 17 years ago😁 I love that platform
I have one in a 32" with a laser etching cannon durolite logo that I ordered from Australia.
Are you saying it came new with the etching? Or was it added like I did?
@@IndianaDoug Yeah it was a new bar.
@@chevy7134 interesting. I wonder why they don’t do this in the North American market where they reside? Weird.
@@IndianaDoug Maybe it was a new batch that I got?
@@chevy7134 their website shows the same bars that I have currently. I bet it coming from Oz had something to do with it. Kind of like the new Husqvarna XTough Lite bars. The North American bars are made by Sugihara, whereas everywhere else they’re made by Tsumara.
Just playing advocate here (because that's really weird for a cannon bar), but is it possible the saw isn't oiling properly, causing heat? Just a thought. Thanks Doug!
I really wish that was the case. I have several of these bars, used on various saws, same result everytime.
Did it change the performance....no, but it doesn't instill confidence in the product. I also think it's idiocy on cannons part because that is basically free advertising
Doug, just for giggles approach Cannon with YOUR procedure (or at least get those folks feedback AFTER they see your vid) and IF they are interested then maybe the two of you can get a financial option going for your information on how to improve their final product. It’s at least worth a shot. 😮
I’d chat with them simply because I love the bars, but not at all why I made the video. Just a point that if little ol me can diy something I KNOW for a fact they can do better.
@@IndianaDoug It was just a thought
They are the best? I can't agree with you on that. But I like a heavy Oregon bar...
Have you purchased a Cannon Duralite Superbar? I have every bar on the market, performance wise these have definitely held up the best(other than the print).
The old price = quality fallacy.
Doesn’t make sense
I got 2 of em an been beatn on 1 of em for 2yr in log woods an some firewood 2. Not a big deal 2 me personallly but i to lost the print literlly the 1st day lol. But there bars are holdn up well thus far changed 1 tip on only 1 bar 1 time in 2 years im pleased but dam they are expensive.
Good info