The Most Unique Mower Blades I Have Ever Tested - How Do They Cut?
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- cutlass mowers blades are brush hog style swing type lawn mower blades
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Thanks for the great video, Brock! You did a fine job of explaining and demonstrating this product. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for helping Doss farm.
I used the Meg-mo system on my John Deere 54 inch deck for years. Absolutely loved them. When I sharpened them I made sure I balanced the blades in twos and cross matched them. They were a good solid system!
Meg mow system is very expensive, I would like to know how long they lasted compared to conventional blades
The grass in Australia should stand up pretty good, since it's all hanging upside-down.
LMAO
😂😁😂
…but not really because the earth is flat dustdevl1043😊
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Same style as the disc mower that is used on some farms. Used one a few times, they worked good. They did take a bit more power, but they cut in any direction that the hay was laying. I helped change a few of the blades, problem with that was everything was worn down from sandy soil and rough terrain. I designed a system for my lawnmower to use the same setup, but never did build it.
Thank you for leading with the answer! Respect. 🤜🤛
Howdy Brock! Interesting mower blade. I have the same kind of yard, mixture of grasses and clover. If I let it get too high I have the same issue with not getting an even cut. I have to use what I call the 'overlap method' lol. Each pass is 50% new and the other 50% overlapping the previous cut. Takes longer, but I enjoy being out on the tractor and I'm only mowing 3 acres. Probably wouldn't need to do it like that as often if I would sharpen my blade lol. 😆 Well done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Nice concept. I may have to try out a set of those!
I have reservations over how thin the metal is compared to the standard blade you showed. The ability to flex should make up for a lot of that, but only time will tell on the longevity and if it’s cost effective or not. The one thing I know for sure is it’s a guessing game until you try them. Thanks for checking them out for us and I look forward to your long term opinions 🤠
You are correct with changing your blades from one to four that swivel. I went through 3 single blades within a few months. I changed to a four blade system and never looked back.
The small blades on the corners remind me of the small razor-style blades that you can find on robotic mowers. That being said, I have been doing a lot of excavation digging projects around my property and have a lot of stones that I keep hitting with my existing mower blades (John Deere X728) and I don't want to launch a stone through a window or at my house, so I may look at picking these up.. Mowing season is wrapping up where I live, so I may hold off until next spring, but I'm definitely looking forward to your long term opinions in the future.
Interesting blades brother.....I'll have to see them at Equip expo in a few weeks!
I will see you there.
Thanks for watching
On the push mower I have seen the crank shaft bend when hitting an object with a straight blade, never seen that with a disc and swing blade, even some rideon mowers here in Australia use the disc with a swing blade, I prefer them for cutting lawn.
Well, didn't work for me on my EGO push mower. Gave it the ol' college try, but the blades were too heavy (even though it wasn't supposed to be an issue). Back to the blade it came with. :)
Thanks for the info brock
When I was a kid my grandfather had a push mower with two of them blades on the one he had so they where here back about 50 years ago I. Remember it clearly because I had never seen them before then
Hey Brock, I've stuck with the high lift blades on my Toro Z-master 54". But I've noticed mulcher Blades are much quieter. Did you notice more or less noise with this set-up?
Thanks for the review. Looked impressive so I went to their site and ordered 3 for my 54" Hustler zero turn. Ridiculous price at $347.00 shipped but I figured why not. First off there was no place on the order page to put a discount code. Secondly after a full week I still had no ship date, tracking / number so I called and after pushing several buttons I finally spoke to "Leroy". Oh he said....it says on the page these are special order and take 4 - 5 weeks to arrive. I said there was no such thing on their website or I wouldnt have ordered them. I said cancel my order since you already charged my credit card and refund the card. Oh he said....I have no means to do that but I can send you a check. I said ok, when will the check be sent. In a week he said as the "secretary" doesnt work every day. So these clowns have zero idea how to properly run a business and are a real pita to deal with. Now I have to dispute the charge on my card and hope I do in fact eventually get said refund check. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of dealing with these knuckleheads......
I like the windrows! Makes it easy to collect with my tractor and a rake to add nitrogen to my compost pile!
Same with small branches and dry leaves! Run them through my chipper and put them in the compost pile; they add carbon to the nitrogen rich grass clippings.
Mix in the non-meat kitchen waste, water and turn every week and I get high quality composted soil gor my garden.
I know it was already stated in the video, but I'm gonna say anyway that Australia has used a similar design for years on push mowers. No bent cranks from hitting posts and stumps in the ground and you don't normally bother sharpening your blades - opting for just buying a new set and bolting them on. You can sharpen them if you want though.
I like it! I'd think that as long as you use them on "good" lawns that have no big rocks, roots, curbs, stumps, etc, they should do very well. With four blades it should give a better finish, in theory.
As a viewer from Australia - you are right about the blades here. I find the "swing blades" last so much better!
The video states that you’ve used them for 30 years so how would you know ! you ever use the double blade? SCAMMERS
@@jaymills7149 You assume I live in the USA! Bad assumption. I do not. Don't call me a scammer. I know what I am talking about.
What about if you bag your grass? does it have enough lift and velocity to force the grass up and through the chutes?
You have a really nice mower for someone that mows in circles. I was really hoping to see how these stripe
Looking forward to receiving my Cutlass Blades. I ordered them 2 months ago and they have not arrived yet. Are there problems at the shop?
I like it I like it how about a regular ride lawnmower or just just gotta be just those kind of lawn more will those blades work for a regular lawn more? I have a 42 craftsman rider.
what do they weigh compared to standard blade
I'm looking at these to use for something that's similar to that of brush cutting of very overgrown areas. I'm curious if it's worth the expense or if just getting OEM blades would be better and cheaper. I can only think these would be better and less demanding on the mower when hitting debris or twigs/stumps. But it's more expensive than I would have thought.
Are you still going to bend the flat plate there attached to
Brock have you looked into the Blade Solution system😊
I've had some come off but I was in some rough stuff and doing more than what I would say it was designed for.
I hit a rock with a 3 point rough cut and it went through metal barn siding like paper. Quite a noise it made 😂
Hey, do they sound any different or quieter?
Did you ever do an update on these blades after using for them so long?
How easy do the blades snap on off after they've been used?
When I mow I turn to the right, re-cutting the windrow and spreading it out. If I have let the grass get to thick I do have to turn to the left because the windrow will be too big to re-mow.
I'm a landscaper in Rhode Island USA. Most of my customers lawns haircut weekly or bi-weekly. My goal is to have the clippings be so fine that it looks like the grass has been bagged. Do you think these blades can accomplish that?
How do they work with a bagger? Have fun!!
So how do you still like them? How are they on lift?
How does that work with multiple spindles??
Can they be used on a john deere 42" lawn mower?
What height did you mow it at?
Ok I like the concept but on the swivel blade part, what happens when the square part holding the blades comes in contact with something hard? Would that have the same effect as a straight blade? Are these also made for the push mower? Don't need a riding mower.
Been here in Sweden for many years
Thanks, Interesting Blade[s]. Got to give 'those people' that hate "'Dead clumpy grass get too tall', some grief; Dead grass still grows? 8:02 Cheers!
"For when you don't want to throw your grass cutting so severely"... Bwaaaahaaahaaaa! 🤣
watched the first round n some how found the new ones thanks for sharing this great information
Joe the tree guy
With that little short blade you could easily set up a little jig or fixture to hold the blade and sharpen the consistently.
Wow, you really did a number to that blade. That must have been one hell of a rock. I guess that’s the price you pay cutting areas that you aren’t familiar with at new job sites. I’d be interested to see how these hold up long term. I use my lx2610 to cut farm lanes and pastures, but I like the finished look the belly mower on it provides. Only downside is I have to cut more often, but it prevents me from needing to borrow my grandfathers older JD 2040/4020 (cant remember which configuration the numbers are in), along with his brush hog. Interesting mowing technique, I’m more of a parallel line look, going opposite directions to create a poor mans stripe golf course look. Either way, these look interesting, if they hold up better then my Kubota blades and my Dixie Chopper zero turn blades, the Dixie blades wear out so quickly, so any improvement would be great. Thanks again for exposing us to all these interesting products Brock. Great content as always 👍
I’ve been that played on a piece of that pipe. I’ve been messing with the last few weeks.
The blade tips on both this and megmo are also hardened steel, so their wear life should be much longer. Standard blades can't be hardened for safety, they could snap instead of bend sending part of the blade flying.
Do they make a Gator style blade for that? Maybe switch 2 of the blades to a gator type blade. It might mulch even better?
Did you do an update video on these blades? Great vid.
Quality video reviewing the product. The only thing I didn't understand is saying that bent straight blade would be hard to fix.. A torch and a shop press to flatten and straighten it, grinder and nail in the wall to sharpen and balance it. If that flat plate gets warped by an anthill or log, or the retention clips get worn down by sand - could make for a bad day. All that said, I wouldn't stop anyone from trying the cutlass blades - so long as they had a beefy enough mower to handle them (I wouldn't put them on a less than 16hp mower or on a mower with a box-store thin deck).
Looks like they redesigned them since this video. I was concerned by the large square center collecting clippings on top. The new ones look like a four leaf clover.
The flail design also should help prevent bending a mower shaft from hitting a solid and set object with a straight blade.
So you can mow piles of steel and rock now awesome just what i was looking for🤔
First time seeing a blade like that but seems like it would be easy to balance them by weight
Any particular reason why you choose to mow around instead of back & forth as most would do with a ztr?
If my grass is a reasonable height, then I mow back-and-forth but if it’s really tall, then I mow in squares.
Alternating directions with really tall grass means you make big Wind rows of cut grass
Went to the link in your comments and the blade there is made much differently than yours in the video. Linked blade does not have the square center section for holding the 4 blades. Is it the same company that you got yours from?
Yeah, I had seen the other shape, which is even more unusual, and was expecting to get that.
I don’t know if they’ve recently done a design change or if it is certain sizes that have a different shape.
It's also kinda like blades on a disc bind hay mower. With individual floating heads with small replaceable blades.
Coach Elko is TOP NOTCH ...
Given time they certainly can be ...
and it may not take too much time at that ...
They look like the old Jacobson lawn mower blade. It was killed off by OSHA in the seventies. Great mowers, long gone.
What happens when you bend the square blade holder?
Those are fancy. But im a landscaper/ lawncare pro. Hustler mowers are ok. But for me its gravely. High lift copperhead blades with a true mulch kit is all I run. Im glad theres still some ideas out there. But maybe you can design a damn bearing for quick change. Pull a pin and change the blades without that 15/16s bolt
Looks like the actual little blades are the same as the ones on a disc type hay mower
By the way ,high lift blades wear really fast in areas with sandy soil.
Ok thanks
I'm 53 now but, when I was 8 & worked for my Uncles Mowing Business.
I was taught to walk the property before you cut it.
**I'm curious what happens to the Plate section that hits something?
By the time you hit something with the little blade, you've already gone too far & hitting that plate..
I cut over 5 acres of my property 2 times a month in the summer & sometimes in the winter because I live on the TX Coast.
My ExMark has never given me a problem & it has a ton of hours on her at 5 yrs old with Gorilla Blades.
Hay cutters are built with short blades
I’ve bent plenty of blades over the years from hitting things. I can definitely see the advantages of a swing blade. One thing he did not demonstrate is how these stripe. With most mowers, lift and airflow are the primary way they create their stripe. This is where I have my concerns with this concept.
How to order the square plate there web site don’t show them?
I believe, What you see on the website is the same product. They are just shaped differently for different size mowers.
My 72 inch deck had a square center.
does doing a second cut in the other direction fix your problem with what's more laid over ? from what I see in your closing shot, I'd do a new pass in the opposite direction and try to not hit the same wheel patterns exactly. Cool blade and thought that went into it.
What do u call high lift
I wonder how they would work with my leaf bagger attached ?...Also, my JD 300 riding mower has a 3 bladed mower deck, does it work for multi bladed decks?
pc
Probably not very well...a bagger needs a high lift type blade in order to get enough lift and velocity to blow the clippings into the bags....now if you had a powered leaf collection system that has the blower on them, those blades demonstrated in this video would probably work fine.
The zero turn mower he has in this video is a 3 blade deck, so yes, it works on multi-blade decks.
@@wildbill23c Brock should have mentioned that his was a 3 bladed deck...I didn't assume that as he only mentioned one blade replacement
Yes. Mine has 3 blades. 72” cut
@@patrickcorbett8361 You can see the mower in the video and with enough sense would know it has more than 1 blade. I'm not aware of any decks that size with 1 blade. Even some of the 30" walk behind mowers have 2 blades.
The blades shown in this video are ridiculously expensive, you have nearly 1/2 the cost of a new lawn tractor tied up in a set of blades...add to that replacement cutters...that's a heck of a lot of money to spend when you could simply just clean up your property and not run over stuff that would damage the blades LOL. I'm almost through my 3rd season with the Gator G5 blades on my lawn tractor that I have yet to even need to sharpen, let alone damage.
When you mow a new area, or for someone else you really gotta be careful, I'd use a rough cut mower at the very least mowing an area that hasn't been mowed before, or a walk behind string trimmer. Going out there with a fancy zero turn mower cutting an uncut area is just asking for trouble...yeah people do it, but its really bad for the equipment. A tractor with a brush hog would be a good start, once you get it knocked down then go through with a regular mower, no need for blades like this to mow a lawn in the first place...there have been several different companies come out with blades like these, you never see them after a while because people realize they're way too expensive and not built as well as one would think. They also don't perform very well in heavy/thick grass.
@wildbill23c regular blades for my mower are around $80 for a set at my local dealership.
So these cost an extra $300 on a mower that cost $15,000. After the initial purchase the replacement tips aren’t more than regular blades.
That is a one time investment at .02% off the cost of the mower. Also, I’m not trying to convince anybody to buy them. I’m just showing them
Nice cut but does not look robust at all. I don't think they'll last anywhere near as long as a heavier style blade.
A longevity review would be appropriate.
Maybe you'll consider this, keep up the good work 👍🏻.
The blade tips are also hardened steel, it should last longer from general wear over standard non hardened blades
Just like a bush hog blade. And in Louisiana they are tough as shit.
Just a thought,let's compare different style cutters used on weed eaters,plastic string works good but does not last.a flat mower type blade cuts slow and takes a lot of power.A skill saw blade takes power,lasts longer,cuts heavier brush but needs to be shielded because it is dangerous .
As far as balancing goes I think you'd have to be significantly different in weight to throw those out of balance, they're not precision weight to start with so I don't think you're going to have a problem there. I would bet you could even take one of the blades off and only have three and I bet it would run just fine because that center square piece has got 90% of your centrifugal force right there
How can it replace a straight blade? The shape of the underside of the deck would seem to prohibit them from working properly.
They're designed to be no longer than your standard blades with the tips swung out. Any obstruction that these replacements would hit under the deck, your standard blades would also hit.
The upfront cost is high and could be worth it for not throwing rocks. But you said the cost of replacing the tips would be lower, and that is not true. A three spindle deck of the deluxe would be 12 blades. A pack of 12 replacement blades from Cutlass is $90. A set of 3 mulching, flat blades is half that. If I can replace them with something from the farm supply store, then maybe it would be less expensive.
My problem with megmo was they don’t have the lift to mow just once. Do these.lift well? They look like the back is a better design
I think you answered my question
You didn't mention what height you normally cut to. I usually let mine get 5" or so and cut back to 3.5". According to the people that really care about this stuff, you're not supposed to cut more than 1/3 the height. I kinda try to keep to that, but like you, my lawn is not monoculture. Also, I do prefer that it looks >somewhat< maintained if you're seeing it from the street. Just looked at the website, I don't see that square style blade plate that you're showing in the video.
Would rather see a "round" concentric hub where the blades connect as I believe it would have better cutting performance. Thx
As an Aussie i didnt realise swivel blades wernt standard in other places around the world 😂
Here in the US most lawn mowers use a single straight blade...larger mowers have multiple blades, but they're all fixed length, they don't swivel at all. Flail mowers, reel mowers (not very popular anymore), and brush hogs are the only swinging blade type mowers here in the US. Most people are mowing their lawns with a regular lawn mower which just uses the single straight blades. That straight blade works fine, as long as your yard is clean, or whatever area you are mowing is clean, but if not, you end up with bent or even broken mower blades, damaged mower deck spindles, etc.
@@wildbill23c In Australia we tend to mow low, usually 2 inches or less so swing back blades are essential when the ground is a little unclean.
My dad had a blade tip brake off it went through a car in through the drivers door and out the passenger door.
It’s simple to take off 3 blades that cost $60 and sharpen once a month for a home owner for 30 minutes.
So how expensive are these blades and how expensive is each individual blade cost and how long does it take to sharpen 12 blades?
My thing is, will that entire square metal plate bend if you hit a stump?
Well, I don't think they'd fit on my mower as my blades and spindles have star shaped holes/shafts...like a large Torx socket, lol. Not sure what Husqvarna had in mind when they made them.
I called Cutlass and asked about this. They make the center piece with whatever style is needed. The order page askes about a second hole but not about shape. But you can note it on the page. Include how many points are on the star. If at all possible, answer the question about what model blade came on the deck.
My guess is they sent you a prototype of the blade, as the ones sold on their website don't look anything like that square center section LOL. Doesn't matter what blade size you select none of their current models use that square base plate design.
I wonder what difference there is in power use between the OEM blades VS these types of swinging blades. I know the Gator G5 blades I put on my lawn tractor use more HP than the OEM blade, but the G5 blades are wider and thicker than OEM too.
Had a fixed blade snap on a mower and it hit a fence I was just weedwacking 10 seconds earlier. And he didn’t hit anything the more started to shake real bad out of know where and we thought a rope hose or cable got in the deck and the more slung something to the fence. But when we looked there wasn’t anything haven’t noticed the broken blade tried to deck again and it shook like crazy. He went to the fence while I reinspected the deck and at the same time we yelled out the blade broke I found the broken blade the same time he for the other half.😂 it put a hole in that fence.
G'day bloke my name's Pete.
I live in Australia, and I would love a set of these blades for my Hustler 60-inch zero turn mower. Is there any way that we could get in contact so we could make this happen? I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards Pete.
It’s not my product. I put a link in the pinned comment that leads to the manufacturer website
@RockhillfarmYT Yes, I can see that, I've contacted the company, and they don't ship to Australia at the moment. I'd really love to give them a go. This may be a bit left field, but is there any chance of me paying you plus extra for your time and work to send me a set out to Australia. All expenses plus more covered? This would be so appreciated all the way from Australia! Happy to chat more if needed. Thanks so much!
Seems like they're significantly quieter
Do they even have grass in Australia? All I've ever seen is dust. 😂
Do it work for Zero turn for At toro?????
Works got any mower
Hustler, absolutely the best. Hands down
PS: Fu..c..k Australia lol
I don’t see the version you show on the cutlassblades site?
The shape is different for different mowers
@@RockhillfarmYTThank you
Brock. I tried your discount code and it doesn’t recognize it.
I sent a message to the company asking them about that. Did you try all capitals? I don’t know if that matters.
I think they got it fixed
The extra weight has to have a detrimental effect on an electric clutch.
What a salesman.
the r p m is to slow for tough grass clover is real easy to cut