Learning storytelling with Fan Ho's photography
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Video Breakdown
00:00 Intro
01:39 Master your intention
02:40 Leveraging Light & Shadow
04:54 Storytelling: Curiosity & Doubt
07:01 My Print Shop & Saal
09:30 The Geometry of the Urban Landscape
11:02 Faces
12:25 Consume Other Art Forms
Fan Ho's photography techniques for narrative photography
By Tatiana Hopper
August 2023
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Your work here is so important and meaningful. A deep heartfelt THANK YOU 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for watching! 🙏🏻
I heard of Fan Ho and also understand the culture and background where he came from, HK and Shanghai, since my family was from Shanghai and I was born and grew up in HK. But he’s a unique photographer and sure enough I have a lot more to learn from. He was about the age of my father. 🎉
As a complete novice in photography and someone that hasnt got a clue what he is talking about, i love his use of shadow and light but using smoke and steam. it really adds to the atmosphere and draws you in. the way he doesnt completely blacken out the dark areas such as alleyways makes you want to look further. i love it! thanks for the video T! safe travels.
That’s definitely one of this best qualities how he understands and uses available light and shadow. He was truly a master, thanks for watching Will! All the best!
Awesome video. Congratulations on almost 50 members!
Thanks so much Joe! You were one of the first ones so thank you for always supporting 🙌
Absolutely love Fan Ho. The way his images bring across a sense of haste in life yet those tiny snippets where everything is just beautiful, full of emotion, and at a "chaotic beauty" is just what I love about it. Great video as always and a big thank you for putting out knowledge like this! c:
Thank you so much for watching and for the kind words I really appreciate it and I agree with you, his images really do bring across a sense of beauty in life even at his most normal and chaotic times :)
Thanks for this video; what a great photographer Fan Ho was. You described very well how his work is. I have learned from Fan Ho the importance of knowing our environments, knowing how lights, shadows, and buildings, and how people sail in it; I think it is very important to know about our places and neighborhoods because we can get the narrative through physical elements (like lights, shadows, building, houses, etc.) and the cultural aspect of a place, in the end, the narrative should be the essence behind a photo. Greetings from Chile.
Agreed! Thanks so much for sharing that insight and for watching! All the best and much love to Chile!
Well put, compatriota🎉
I watched both the videos of Alexei Titianko and Fan Ho and I don't know how to appreciate the different styles of story telling and the unique ways of their depicting and translating their thoughts in their Imageries! It became known how people of different culture and environment affect the theme in the picture and obviously the time frame during which the affected communities going through their lives to the future and the rhythmic flow in their work is an inspiration to know see more than just reading them on spot to move on to the next frame but every picture compels the viewer to stop surging to the next because the more someone stays to a frame the more astonishment grows with some new aspects unfolds to their timeless pictures! Next comes the series of pictures during a time which is on the whole is knowing the frozen information that would have missed hadn't they seen them the way they did! Alexie used motion blur and atmospheric haze created by fog mist smoke and obviously the complimenting light with his enormous darkroom technique (could understand what it takes to learn and get the desired effects) and the other one used his vision of seeing innumerable details in a shot of light and its penumbral regions no obscurity to blemish the mood in all the regions of graded tonalities! Fan Ho discovered the pockets of light and shadows but I'm astonished the brilliant light never over power the subject's portion which needed to be in the relief and so is the case in the penumbral regions of objects in the same frame although I it's possible to do so in the darkroom buy thinking of the genius who not only took them captured on film (or anything else) so perfect and at the same time thay had it in mind what they wanted finally! It's just going depths without an end! Wish more from you like these and I'd like an indepth read about Henry Courtier Bresson in a video! I have a special place for his style of photography which always reminds me the nimble speed startling subject and geometric visions of framing with inimitable art form made in each photograph which smells as pristine and relevant as though they were to this day!
I always loved Fan Ho's work, he was a master for sure. Thank you for another great video Tatiana. 😎❤
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching Rich!
You are doing a great job of analyzing and interpreting photographer’s work. It’s very helpful. And yes, light is everything and not easy to manage well. I appreciate your excellent videos.
Thanks so much Ted! Appreciate your words and feedback, all the best!
I love all your videos, but this one was a highlight for me! I love fan ho’s work so much, I literally saved the watching of this video for Saturday morning with a good cup of coffee haha, it was nice. Thank you so much for putting out so much great content about photography and photographers, not cameras!
Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback! Glad foi watched it with a good cup of coffee! ✨
I learn so much and get so inspired through this channel. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Fan Ho is my ideal. Just found your channel- clear and intelligent which is rare
Thank you and welcome aboard, if you have some time check out some of the other vids / documentaries, thanks for watching!
@@TatianaHopper I am happily binge watching🤓
I’ve actually used Saal before, no complains at all, very insightful video especially the last point of consuming other art forms. So true! Your prints look good 👍🏻
Glad you did and also had a good experience, thanks for watching and for the positive feedback!
@@TatianaHopper thanks for putting out good stuff 👍🏻
Thanks for this video. Fan Ho is a long time favorite of mine. In my opinion, possibly the best street photographer ever. My approach to this discipline is so much influenced by his work. He should have more credit in the West. Best to you.
Thanks for watching Jose, glad you enjoyed it and see value in his work, Fan Ho is truly a great inspiration!
The ad for Saal was actually a highlight, as opposed to the usual inconvenience. Hadn’t heard of them. Thanks
Well I’m glad you liked it or it helpful to you in some way, thanks for watching :)
"Light is the soul of a photograph" is such a great quote
It really is!
Thank you for making this, this was really great. Going to HK this week and was looking for a Fan Ho guide. Found it :)
Great! Thank you so much for watching!
Thanks for expanding Fan Ho’s work in your video! Such great work!
Thank you so much for watching Victor!
Your channel is very inspiring. Thank you for all the hard work you do!!
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching!
Great video. More please. I always use Saal for printing my work. They are superb and the quality is out of this world!
Thanks so much Tony, glad to know you use Saal and have had a good experience, all the best and thank you for watching once again 🙏🏻
Wow.. Fan Ho's beautiful work! Very inspiring. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Richard!
Hi Tatiana, thank you for this very interesting video. Very inspiring. Your series about creative photographers is helping me a lot to start experimenting and expanding my horizon. Thank you.
Go for it Frank, thanks for watching! :)
"Truly good photographs are not taken with the camera. They come from inside you. Your eyes. Your brain. Your heart. Not some cold piece of equipment."
Fan Ho.
Funny enough I had that quote at the beginning of my video but changed it in editing because I came across the quote about light when I watched a video with Fan Ho :)
Relaxing and full of insight! Thanks, T!
Thank you so much Nino, glad you enjoyed it!
Great Video Tatiana, make me want to know more. Are all these images apologue? Sure displays a comprehensive understanding of light. Makes me want to move into a city!
Thank you for your videos. I really love the way you present all these artists. I didn't know Fan Ho but he's amazing. I hope one day you'll make videos about Ken Domon or Dave Heath. Thanks again
I’ll check them out thanks Julien! I appreciate it!
Absolutely incredible video!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for another great video. Fan Ho's work in HK is sublime. Unfortunately books of his work are expensive and often hard to find. I did see several in the gift store in the HK Cultural Centre on the Kowloon side when I was there last but again expensive. I'm always looking out for a second hand copy. Cheers and thanks again
I’m not surprised they are expensive perhaps in the future if there’s reprints we can get some more accessible ones :) I know that’s what’s been happening with W. Eugene Smith’s books and images. Definitely always look out for second hand copies, thanks for watching!
keep making the great content it's been nice to see your channel grow!
Thank you so much! Will do!
James Chung is another photographer who shot similarly as fan ho. He has two short run books called "waiting for the moment" and "long shadows." As far I was able to tell, they were friends, mentor & mentee, and often shoot along side him.
I wonder how one body of work effects the other.
I will definitely look up James Chung, thanks for the recommendation! Much appreciated.
After your video, I noticed that James Chung never noticed faces like Fan Ho did. I really liked your analysis of Fan Ho and look at his work and James Chung's work differently because of it. @@TatianaHopper
Great work, Tatiana!
Thank you so much Pablo!
I’d love to see a video like this about Lee Friedlander!
Very cool suggestion!
So well done--thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
i really learn from and enjoy your videos
Thank you so much Rebecca!
Good vid! I recommend the Photographer's Ephemeris (map-based Sun, Moon, and Milky Way calculator) free online.
Never heard of that one, thanks so much for the tip Joseph! All the best!
always loved your videos, so inspiring. what was the name of the app you mentioned?
Thanks for watching, it's Saal, link is in the description!
There is so much i think that my photography is missing. i am nervous to photograph people and myself am not too social. so often mine show people walking away, and there is also a quickness to my photos too as i like to not be in a spot too long. maybe that is me, or maybe i should change.
Amazing thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Tatiana, you have heavily influenced how I make videos and I am happy to see you are close to 100K subs. Thanks for the inspiration and I'm looking forward to seeing you hit that milestone.
No way! I came across your channel before and watched your video on Robert Frank and the Americans, really loved it! Thanks for watching my friend and I'm equally wishing you all the best and the same milestones to you!
@@TatianaHopper wow, nice to see the mutual respect and know that you watched that video. Thanks a lot!
Great video.
Thanks for watching!
The photo shown at 10:08, is it like a multiple exposure? My mind can't just understand how incredible that picture is
Hi! That’s an interesting question after looking at the image again and comparing with some I know were double exposure I don’t think in this case is a double exposure although I might be wrong. I just assume the position of the mirrors might lead to the same person being reflected twice on the left hand side and I think these are all different people walking by at the same time, it really is a great picture :)
Nice format you should do more like that
Thanks will do!
More insight into the work of master B&W photographers … ta very much! PS: I think your next video should be a full length MPB short that allows you to explore some particular aspect of photography and naturally, have some fun while you’re at it! That could be a first for the folks at MPB! 📷😀
Noted! Ahah thanks so much! And thanks for watching this video :)
Fan Ho was a true master.
Agreed!
What's a good Fan Ho photography book? Thank you!
Thank you for this Fan Ho discussion. I really like his work. I noticed that in many of his photographs there is a distant child or two or three distant children that are in particularly sharp focus. Do you know if Fan Ho usually used a tripod when he was shooting? Did he have a favorite camera and lens or not?
As far as I know / read he only used a Rolleiflex TLR camera (the one he’s with in his portrait shown in the initial minutes) and occasionally a Leica. There’s no mention to tripods but some of these angles definitely suggest some handheld use. Perhaps he used a tripod when it was needed let’s not forget film in the time of when these photographs were mostly taken was “slower” compared with the speeds we have today so he would need a tripod for certain situations I’m sure. He also was known to work a lot in the darkroom with contrasts, cropping etc.
@@TatianaHopper , have you given any thought to "reverse-engineering" a photograph, i.e. trying to guess the type of film, the type of camera, the shutter speed, the aperture, tripod use, the spontaneity or not, and the time of day a particular photograph was taken? Such an analysis of one of Fan Ho's photographs would be interesting. He may, too, have had Shanghai's air pollution working for him. :-)
Brilliant. Regards Barrie
Thanks Barrie! 🙏🏻
Good video ❤
Thank you!
Seen you been at the Windmills Zaanse Schans. I live close by there. 😊
Beautiful area, you’re very lucky :)
@@TatianaHopper Yesss I know there are a lot of beautiful and historical things😊
Hi, what’s the name of the sun tracker app?
Rui Palha next please ❤
Will investigate! :)
could you do a video on antoine d’agata, i think it would make an interesting video as well he’s my favorite photographer 💙
I'll have to look him up! Thanks for watching!
I love u'r content 🇲🇦🇲🇦❤️
Thanks so much! Sending a lot of positive energy and love to Morocco!
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Sometimes, Fan Ho was faking shadows.
I left an earlier comment that essentially expressed a question I have about how careful you're being with how you "say" things, but apparently I forgot to save it or maybe you felt it didn't fit with the nature of comments that you want to show here ? So, in this video you draw attention to Ho's techniques for "story telling". My question is whether you, upon reflection think that any photograph actually "tells a story". I know that Rod Stewart is quoted as saying something to the effect that "every picture tells a story" but then again you have someone like Garry Winogrand that says "photographs have no narrative content but only describe light on surface". Does it matter if the photographer is attempting to say something or tell a story ? Is there really a story "in" a photograph ? What do you think ?
Hi Gary I didn’t see any earlier comment by you and didn’t delete any, I only delete comments in the case they offend anyone in the comments, the artists I’m talking about or use rude / inappropriate language towards me. So your assumption is not correct on that level.
As for your question I think one shouldn’t conclude a whole based on a sample or part. Every photograph is a particular case just as much as each person’s style and intentions. I don’t think you can say all photos have or don’t have narrative potential because you cannot simply see all the photos ever taken by everyone, I think statements like those are often taken out of context I remember the documentary I watched on Winogrand and he talks about photos having no narrative content in his opinion, his experience and he is talking about his work / how he sees photography.
That being said it’s the classical case of a type of fallacy where from two potential true statements once concludes falsehood. Yes there are photos with narrative potential, yes there are photos without narrative potential therefore to conclude that all have or don’t have this potential is not accurate.
As for your comment on me being careful now I word things I didn’t see it but it’s perhaps the result of making an informed guess / expression of opinion. After all I am talking in a public forum therefore I should make my speech clear and accessible to those who tune in to listen.
if you look more carefully at what I first wrote you'll see that I "assumed" that "either" I neglected to properly save my comment or that perhaps you felt it was inappropriate, not necessarily that you chose to not show it. As to the question of whether a photograph can have narrative content, and putting both Stewart and Winogrand aside, I think the question remains, is it in the nature of what a photograph "is" that it is capable of having "narrative content" or is it perhaps that narrative content can only be applied by the viewer ? Is it perhaps clumsy to say that the photograph "tells a story" ? One could hear this in the same vein as when Szarkowski said a photograph neither lies nor tells the truth, that those are human abilities not applicable to what a photograph "is" . . . . . . .
@@garyisaacs6526 I think when we answer viewers in a public forum we should be clear and if there was an assumption I want it to put it to rest. Because I’m writing to you and to everyone else reading that comment. Hence why I wrote what I wrote, I rarely delete comments unless they’re truly offensive. Also TH-cam might delete or hold them automatically if they have links or certain key words.
The question doesn’t remain if you look at my answer more carefully, I answered according to how you first worded the question. In this case instead of quoting others I prefer to focus on developing my own critical thinking and combined with the previous answer the video in on itself answers the question.
And if viewers feel like the content of this video doesn’t apply to them because they’re not interested in exploring the narrative potential of photography then that’s part of the filter they’ll have to build and take whatever they see fit from the vid or nothing at all.
Thanks for watching!
I'll try not to trip on the bar as I leave . . . @@TatianaHopper