@@ips7125Commercials for "new" antidepressants have made up a phrase, I believe it's "moderate response to antidepressants". I could be wrong about the exact phrase. My bs tuner outer heard it and immediately translated "if you're on an antidepressant and still depressed, it's definitely not because the antidepressant and medical professionals didn't misdiagnose you or didn't provide you with effective or better treatment options. It's probably because of this phrase we recently made up that implies it's your fault because of your depression is that bad, your neurotransmitters or your genetics". Don't worry, go talk to your doctor about adding this "new" antidepressant to better treat depression that's already being treated with antidepressant medication.
They tried that question on me, "Do you have firearms in your home?" I asked the Doc "How many Dildos do you have at home?" She got upset and said that's rude and none of your business! I said "Exactly !"
Register Nurse here. If your doctor asks you if you own guns you tell them, "This seems like a boundary issue." They often back up faster than Vin Diesel in a car movie. If they don't stop you mention you will need to report this boundary issue to the state medical association.
From the N.I.H. web site: "Boundary issues are disruptions of the expected and accepted social, physical, and psychological boundaries that separate physicians from patients".
My son filled out an evaluation in 6th grade at school that asked invasive questions. Bless his heart , he wrote down, "This is none of your business!".
I tried that shit as an 18 yo HS Senior in 1981. It almost didn't end well for me. I recommend "N/A" instead of "none of your business". The disarmers/Leftists have a LOT of power. Teach you're child to disarm the enemy, not themselves.
You don't always have a choice about mental health questions and answering those might be beneficial for you. For instance, pain management doctors have to give you questionnaires to determine if you're suicidal and questionnaires to determine susceptibility to addiction prior to prescribing strong pain medications. They have no choice in the matter. As for guns, that's none of their business so just say you don't own any.
In Illinois if you indicate on an unofficial looking questionnaire that you might be interested in mental health care, state police show up at your house to take away your FOID card. Nobody wants a crazy person to have a firearm, but what's the definition of crazy, and how does it differ from "just asking". (This is not based on my personal experience but on the experience of a friend.)
@@SteveSchildwachter We all know that IL is a commie run state. It's not about "crazy", it's about being a danger to oneself or others and that can only be determined by a doctor's evaluation. If rights are being taken away because someone is interested in getting help with their mild depression then the people need to stand up and put an end to it. FOID cards are unconstitutional as it is and with IL's new registry, I cannot fathom why the residents of that state have not risen up en masse against its government or started abandoning the state by the masses for greener pastures.
I noticed this ~15 years ago. I was in for my annual physical, and he asked me about smoke detectors and guns in my home. I was polite. I asked him why. He responded that it was about lifestyle safety. I told him it was none of his business. In a few weeks, I had found a new family doctor. P.s. I met my new doctor at the gun range...
Scary… I am a physician. Several years ago, my organization added firearm questions to the Medicare paperwork, at the suggestion of CMS. Several of us doctors protested and got it removed. I have long refused membership in the American medical Association because of their stance. And remember 30 years ago when the CDC had sketchy research that was merely a front for an anti-agenda.
@@CatsAreNiceMeowMaybe the newer doctors fall in line and just do what they're told. My doctor of 20 years retired early after the ACA was fully implemented. Nurses and doctors have to report everything to HHS, who then tells the doctor how to treat their patients.
I actually retired in 2008 because of the more and more intrusive government involvement into my medical care! I also was involved in "clinical research" studies, and noticed how the "monitors" were requesting that I change my opinion on "adverse events" on a drug. The insurance was bad enough, but then big Pharma coming in with that, I was done. Now, I don't think M.D. stands for medical doctor anymore, I called it a Medication Distributor degree.
@@dennisking4589 compulse attendance law where if you miss to many days of school you and your parents get fines, jail time or they just take you from your parents for child neglect
I just had a Dr. appointment last week, and my x Dr. pressed me on how many guns I have in the house. I told him it was none of his business. He told me that if I didn’t answer the question he could not be my Dr. so I got up and left.
@@crisalcantara7671 RIGHT ON.... ONCE YOU REALIZED THEY ARE CONTROL BY BIG PHAMARA AND BRAINED WASHED TO THINK THEY WALK ON WATER ... YOU BE BETTER OFF ... MAY YOUNGEST SON AWOKE VERY EARLIER TO BULLLL
Unfortunately it becomes more nebulous when it’s those money-making time-wasting “wellness visits” (I.e., physicals, or in the old days, check-ups). They are asking about everything in a general visit under the guise of informing you how to less likely have medical problems due toaccidents e.g., gun shots, car accidents, bike accidents. Yet they don’t talk much about what kinds of foods you eat.
"That's none of your business" seems likely to result in an assumption of "yes", and possibly give them an excuse to be "suspicious" if in a red flag state and they're looking for a reason. I'm not aware of penalties for lying to a doctor, so saying no seems likely to be the easiest path.
@@gregr2445 "do you smoke" nah...."do you have multiple partners" nah.... "do you own guns" nah..... millions of people lie to the doctors, everyday lol
They always ask women that. So they can prescribe psyc meds. Prozak, and so on. They drug the boys under the guise of adhd, then they drug the women under the guise of phyc. I feel fine doc. My concern has to do with fill in the blank.
And they use this thing about taking dogs n cats into stores n etc... with you for anxiety. Ppl do it just to be able to take their dogs actually where they don’t belong. It’s not worth giving up your rights or admitting insanity just to have an animal go into a building with us. 😮
I had experience with this recently during a minor mental health evaluation. Follow up questions developed into full blown argument when I refused to remove guns from my home. After I left she called my emergency contact with same request. Never answer any questions about firearms from anybody.
I only discuss medical issues with my MD. If he starts asking about firearms I start lying. The only privacy we have today is to keep our mouths shut. An MD giving advice concerning firearms to gun owners, is like a gun owner giving medical advice to an MD.
I'd be tempted to ask what course in med school covered firearms and quiz her about them. Any quip about guns dangerous and bad for health would be questioned, like how it affects my health. Fumes? It leaks a harmful miasma? But I open carry to doc visits so I think she knows.
@@EssenceofPureFlavormy clinic posted no guns or knives by the front door but the sign doesn’t have the legal law number on it, so they can’t legally enforce it. Doctors probably packing.
I am a board-certified Internist, and I will NEVER ask anyone these questions (Unless we're discussing hunting, shooting or reloading). The PREPONDERANCE of the evidence indicates that firearms in the hands of civilians SAVES lives. It is NOT a medical issue and certainly not a "public health issue" except to those who seek to disarm us. I will NEVER be a part of that crowd.
Outstanding. There used to be an organization under the Claremont Institute called Doctors for Reponsible Gun Ownership that my friend and ENT Dr. Tim Wheeler was a part of back in the 90s. We need them still.
Hi doc! While you might not ask your patients this question, take a look at your intake questionnaire if your facility uses EPIC - you probably never see this thing because your nurse or MA fills it out before you see them. “Are there any guns in your home?” is a question included in many intake profiles in EPIC.
I had my doctor ask me all of this last week. I told him I am retired Army EOD and I work with explosives, so I don't need firearms as I stared at him blankly. I have never seen someone's eyes get so wide with fear and try to end the appointment ASAP. That made my day.
My daughters pediatrician ask this. I ask him what business it was of his. He started it was a standard AMA questionnaire concerning child safety. I ask him how many gunshots of children he'd treated in his 30 plus years. He admitted to none. I then ask him how many dog bites he'd treated. He couldnt answer that one. Told him that it seemed to me a dog in the home was much more dangerous to childrens health than firearms. Why don't they ask that question. We found a new doctor.. That was 20 years ago.
My kids pediatrician office knew my profession (it was on their paperwork and of course my wife filled it out without any question as to why, so she knew i was an officer), i was in the office wearing a shirt that said "gun control means using both hands" with a guy who had a pistol in both hands. The nurse there looked at me and asked if i had any guns in my home, i looked at her, looked down at my shirt, looked at her again and said "between my profession and my shirt, take a guess, but I'm not answering your question." They then sent in someone to lecture me about gun safety and storage and the first thing they told me was "any guns in the home are an extreme danger for your family." I asked that person if they ever owned a gun or ever took a gun safety course where they actually handle firearms. They said no... so i asked "what are the four general firearm safety rules?" they had no clue. I just laughed and told them to quit wasting my time because they KNOW nothing about gun safety... they are just repeating talking points they don't actually know anything about.
This happened to a friend of mine who was going through a divorce. He took his teenage daughter to the doctor and he was asking her how she was feeling. She said she was sad because of the divorce. He asked her if there were guns in the house and she said yes. The nurse reported it. 2 days later, 3 state police cruisers arrived with 5 officers in tactical gear. They handcuffed him in his driveway while they searched his home. Photographed his guns, took down serial numbers and threatened to confiscate them. It wasn't until one of the troopers said he knew him and vouched for him that he was allowed to keep them. This man was a corrections officer of 18 years at the time. This happened in Connecticut around 15 years ago.
That is horrific. Why in the heck was any of that necessary? Simply because the government wants to find an excuse to take away firearms? Is it some excuse to protect citizens?
Never had a "doctor". Only need them to set casts, and perform stitches. the rest of that bullshit, is NOT OF YAHWEH, and was NEVER meant to be. Don't bother with treatment of diseases, because diseases are a by-product of EATING THE DEAD, which these bodies are NOT DESIGNED TO DO. Any TRUE DOCTOR, would tell you that, but they are 0.001% of the total number, who claim that profession.
facts. i have a license for nursing and left bc its about morals. how they can morally stand there and watch the doctors screw over their patients just blows my mind. sure i could make hundreds of dollars an hour right now, but you cant pay me to keep ppl sick. and thats exactly what they are doing.
Registered ER Nurse here. You asked what happens to that info. Answer: it goes into a massive database called EPIC, a nation-wide Electronic Medical Record (EMR) which is used by roughly 70% of all hospitals and health systems. EPIC is a searchable database and the “Are there any firearms in your home” question has a yes/no answer button. And cross-linked family files means that when you say “no, I don’t own any guns” during your urgent care visit, but your 14 year old says “yes, my parents have guns” during her sports physical… the implications are fairly clear. Just remember- every time you take your kids to the range teaching responsible gun handling and ownership, remind them that your guns were lost in a boating accident!
No, you teach your children at an early age to NEVER provide ANY information concerning fire arms in the home. This has been something 3 generations of our family have taught our children. Teachers, Doctors, ANYONE outside the home have no BUSINESS knowing anything about fire arms in our homes. Teach your children to say" That is NONE of your business" They can also say" Ask my parent that question, not me". A simple response will not draw attention to the child. The simpler the better.
OK, I’m a retired MD. I remember when the AMA (American Medical Association) first started the rumbling about requiring MDs to ask about firearms. I stated my objections and decided I would never follow any such recommendations. I quit my membership to the AMA looong ago - my first year out of med school as I recognized the politically charged path they were moving towards. I personally grew up in a “gun house” as my dad is a shooter/gun collector/reloader. I learned to shoot age 5 and have never been without firearms. I shot competitively in my younger years. I taught all our kids to shoot whenever they showed interest. So, even in my retirement I continue to shoot and hunt. And I’ve taken after my dad - I’m now a collector and will continue to buy/collect.
As a veteran I can confirm mental health specialists unfortunately don’t have our best interests at heart. Checked myself into the VA twice in La Jolla and they submitted an involuntary 5150 when I WAS ASKING FOR HELP. They did it BOTH TIMES and pretended like they didn’t know. I’m following the rules and trying to do the right thing and getting fucked for it. Automatically can’t own firearms for 7 years in Commiefornia and am appealing a case all the way to the Supreme Court.
I think there's another case ahead of you... The fact that the vet needed some kind of financial advice was grounds for taking away his weapons. Disgraceful.
@@OpusDogi how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
If my doctor had asked something like this, I would have told them that they already spend too little time discussing my symptoms and treatment strategies and too much time on questions that are not related to my diagnosis. And then I would write a complaint against the doctor, accusing them of unprofessionalism .
I’m an RN at a hospital and I can testify that on our admission history assessment there is a line item about if you own firearms. At this time it’s not labeled as required by my hospital and I don’t think I’ve ever come across a patient’s chart where it has been filled in with anything. If it ever becomes mandatory, I’ll have to come up with some way around it because there isn’t any way I’m participating in that kind of thing. The federal government definitely has access to your medical chart if you are on Medicare or Medicaid, but likely they could get that info from your chart without a warrant even if you weren’t. Most companies of all types have absolutely no qualms about handing over your personal info without a warrant in order to stay on the Feds’ good side
About 7-8 years ago I was at the UW Medical doctors office in Ballard and the doctor asked me about my gun storage at home. I refused to answer and asked how this was related to my healthcare. She said something about how guns are dangerous and can seriously affect your health. It’s very telling that they went straight to 100 on this one and didn’t even start out with asking about if I use seatbelts or take multivitamins. Nope. Went straight to guns. Unapologetically too. Seattle was I believe the first to start doing this crap.
I heard about this about five years earlier, but you are correct about being wide spread there , all this was falling on the heels of the Domestic battery reporting that started years before,
My husband's doc asked if he had a rifle, supposedly to determine which shoulder he should put a monitor on if he underwent a certain procedure. Tricky. Deceptive, even. His assistant made a mark in the notes she was taking. Thia was under obama too.
I had a doctor 5 years ago that said he was required to ask me about guns. I started to say, 'it's none of their business'. He immediately interrupted me and replied, "your answer should be 'I don't have any guns', that way you won't raise any red flags". He was on my side. Lesson learned.
@@MrsMoon-qs2gf Recording a private conversation without consent, especially a privileged conversation, would violate most states' wiretap laws, not to mention would be a HIPAA violation.
@@thatguyrich9822 Yes, I know., which makes it all the more disturbing for me. I was very sick at the time and probably signed a consent form when I was admitted and didn't pay attention. Thanks
@@thatguyrich9822 4/12/24...DO YOU WANT TO BET THEY RECORD ALL THOSE WAITING + EXAMINING ROOMS? REMEMBER YOUR CELL PHONE 📱 IS IN THERE RECORDING YOU TOO!
In Pennsylvania they have been asking this at doctor appointments for over 15 years along with questions about do you have alcohol in your home, do you smoke in your home, is there violence in your home, etc. I decline the survey every time.
Slightly off topic this but I once had a physical when I was younger and when my doctor asked if I was a smoker I said, “Hell, yeah!” He made a mark on the sheet and proceeded with the rest of the questions (of course I didn’t think anything was wrong). Afterwards I was handed the sheet for a signature and I happened upon the smoking question, the box was marked as ‘Tobacco abuse’ I was like “WTF?!?” And then I pointed out to the doctor what nonsense that particular question was. What other use does tobacco have? You either smoke it or chew it. I don’t know of any others. He said he didn’t know either. Unfortunately I still had to sign it. Can’t remember the reason why it has been so very long ago. But that question still remains, what the heck was tobacco abuse? Sorry for the rant.🤪 Edit: almost forgot. It was a pretty standard questionnaire, nothing about guns or how depressed I might be. That much I remember, just the tobacco question stuck around.🤪
This is the correct answer. Reading a lot of the other blustery comments on the many things we "should tell them", but the fact is anything other than answering "no" is a tacit "yes" in a doctor's eyes.
I retired as a general surgeon in 2019. As Obama gifted us with the Affordable Care Act, he also mandated doctor and institutional compliance with use of the electronic medical record. And a specific number of the “necessary” questions had to be answered to get paid for service. A number of the questions included an inquiry of gun ownership in the name of public health. This data base is now well established. The barn door was already left open and the animals got out. Health care has been weaponized by big government.
My husband said they would make it a health issue. Hippa really gave medical companies the right to share info on you with 3rd parties ( not insurance) im thinking government! Hippa doesn’t have to be signed to receive care. A lot of folks don’t even know what they’re signing
Just imagine the government analyst making the query against standard medical database “SSRI prescribed AND (Has Firearms OR Refused to Answer Firearms)”
Several times over the last few years I have had doctors and / or medical facilities ask me IF we have guns or firearms, and once ASSAULT RIFLES, in our home. I simply told them that what types or if I own firearms is NONE of their business anymore that what brand underwear I prefer or how I VOTE. It has no bearing on my treatment as I am NOT there for a gunshot wound. On one occasion I had a 20something desk mouse TELL me that it was the LAW for them to get this info or they could DENY me service. I asked for her Office Manager and we had a very serious talk about my upcoming law suit. I didn't get denied service that day, but I did move elsewhere after that visit. My money isn't going to places like that.
@@pamkammann1176 It was just way easier to DEMAND that they show me the law, than argue semantics with people who thought they could do no wrong. Or who thought the average patient wouldn't stand up to them. I did report the facility with their in state professional medical council. Got a really nice letter from them assuring me that they were sending out a council wide letter RE-explaining why they can't do this survey.
Medical"professional": do you have any firearms in your home? how many?where are they stored?are any of them"assault"weapons? Translation: if I decide to"red flag"you,can"law enforcement"come over to your house at 3am and kick down your door without getting shot?
@@stevdieringer3828 I know that in my Patient Account it says "Patient declined to answer any non medical questions as his right under ??? Hospital policy BR-649" or some such weasel worded crap. I still see a doctor from that hospital affiliation group, just not THAT particular office, so I still have any active portal with them. Can't give you their name but this hospital group is university tied, big med school, team color is blue, central NC bound. Don't want a liable suit.
They started laying the groundwork for this with us seniors a few years back. Every single time you have an appointment you have to fill out this whole questionnaire and answer a whole slew of questions about your mental health. How often have you felt depressed in the last month. Stuff like that. When this first started I told my husband that this would possibly be used in the future to disarm legal firearm ownership. Hearing this video makes me think I just may have been right on that thought.
DONT ANSWER ANY MENTAL HEALTH QUESTIONS !!! Last time I was in the hospital I joked with the nurse telling her that one day they’ll lock me up on 72 hour mental health hold for NOT answering
The Choctaw tribe health services has their patients to fill out a mental health questionnaire sheet everytime you go in for a appointment, I figure it's just a matter of time when they'll include the questions do you own a firearm and how many firearms do you own, and if they do that's when they'll get a earful from me and then I'll walk out and never go back. I'm convinced that most or perhaps every Native American Indian tribe is controlled by far left liberals, I know the Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma are starting from the very top, they're hard core far left democrat supporters on steroids.
My doctor started asking whether I owned firearms and if they were properly stored, and I looked him dead in the eye and told him that had no relevance to my physical condition or health. He started to stutter and mumble about how he had to ask, but I didn't have to answer, and quickly wrapped up with one or two normal questions acting as if that had not just happened. Keep pushing back.
You’re under no obligation to answer, but it’s not an irrelevant question to your health. Gun ownership raises your risk of suicide dramatically and some people are certainly safer without a gun.
@@thomream1888 do you reject the basic idea that suicidal folks who have access to guns are at much greater risk of death than those who don’t? You can support 2A while accepting that suicide is a huge problem.
@@StreetcarHammockUmmmm people have unalived themselves in many ways without using a gun. Let's see now docs should ask, do you own rope? Do you use knives to cook? Do you have a bathtub in the house? Do you live in a high rise? Do you live near a bridge? Give it a rest.
@@jackiemack8653 Yep. My doc asked the question and I asked him why and he said that it's just on his form and he screens people for suicide risk. I told him I own two vehicles and I have a fully enclosed garage, so what's the difference because there are many many ways to unalive yourself. He went on to the next question. I fired him. I had a friend in college who committed suicide. He was an avid hunter and had a house full of guns. He used rope and a ceiling joist in the basement. I should have told my ex-doctor I had those things too.
Doctors have started to ask about firearms whether you live in a Red or Blue State along with asking if you "feel safe in your home." A continuous agenda for civilian disarmament by government.
Yep, I had all sorts of questions last visit ;do you feel safe, dies anyone abuse you ,does any yell at you ,ect. Risk management my ass, more like profile management. We all know who the criminals are.
@Chowda41 Exactly. Lie. And if you have kids, never let them be alone with a doctor and coach them on how to respond if they are asked questions like this.
All one need do is read the comments of a medical forum to know that it will absolutely happen with far too many of them. I've read MedPage since the pandemic broke out. Over half of the comments from doctors insist that anyone not a doctor is a rube and lacks intelligence to know what is best for themselves and only they know what is right, despite all indications to the contrary. Really, the only ones with what seems like the ability to reason or be reasonably are almost exclusively retired. That pretty much sums up the medical industry.
@@Knyaz22they don’t think they can predict the future, you fool. They think they can successfully lie to your face, and to an extent it works because even when you catch them you think they’re stupid. In actuality, they’re horrifically evil.
me too. dumped the high blood pressure pills and dont go to the dr's any more. quality of life issue. refuse to run around getting endless tests so the dr "can be sure'. i will die of natural causes not medical interference. stay away from hospitals!!
I went to a doctor’s office years ago in N.J. I was given a questionnaire. On it was the question “Do you own a firearm.” I did not answer it. I handed in my questionnaire back to the receptionist. She called me back up to the desk and said I need to answer these questions, referring to the ones regarding firearms. I told her those questions have absolutely nothing to do with my health. She insisted that I finish the questionnaire. So, I calmly asked her, “Do you own a vibrator?” That shit her up.
how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
In my opinion, smoking and drinking are medical issues because they affect the body and can affect symptoms and doctor diagnosis and treatment. However, questions about firearms have no bearing upon medical care and have NO business in a medical setting.
Refusal to answer questions will be considered a "YES" just like refusing to take a breathalizer test. Since it's none of their business and you're not under oath, JUST SAY NO.
I had a doctor’s appointment a couple of days ago and I mentioned something to him that I heard on TH-cam relating to health. His response was “you can’t believe everything you hear on TH-cam”. In retrospect I should have said “ I know that doctor and you also can’t believe everything you hear at the doctor’s office”
@joevarga1769some Drs don't keep up with current studies so they are stuck in old ways of doing things. If you tell them new research indicates better methods are possible, they'll just assume you're an idiot and not even look into it.
I had a PCP a couple of years ago, who had a question on the paperwork you filled out before an appt (about symptoms, meds, etc) that asked if you owned guns. I just wrote "None of your business." on it. I also won't answer questions about nationality, race etc. The American Academy of Pediatrics has also made a formal recommendation to their members, that they should, when seeing a child, ask the parent to wait in the waiting room & then ask the child if their parents own guns & if so, how they're stored. I think the best idea is to just not let the Dr. see your kid alone.
how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
Both my husband and I just had our Medicare physicals. I was STUNNED when he asked if we had guns in our house!. I said no and immediately texted my husband to say no also! None of their business!
When I went to the VA last week for a routine yearly checkup, (there was nothing wrong with me) the questions they asked were bothersome to me; 'Are you feeling financially stable?' or 'Do you feel you have enough food to eat?' and the ever present question of 'do you feel suicidal?'. I answered with questions of my own; 'Are you a financial advisor', and 'Are you a psychiatrist'?, etc.. When the doc said no to my questions, I said "Then I have no comment". She said she needed an answer to all of them, and I refused. She left for a minute and then came back in and acted as if nothing had happened.. too crazy!
Entire medical community. I was checking out my med profile from the state university one chart who gives access to many state agencies. Said I was suffering from severe depression. I called them up and said where the heck did this come from and they said the doctor. I said what doctor. They said the doctor… again I said what doctor and they could not say(no record of diagnosing doctor). I said if you can’t verify then it needs to come out of my record. They said I would have to talk to the diagnosing doctor to do that. I said what doctor? They didn’t know but can’t remove without the doctors permission. Getting an attorney but for now my medical record contains a false entry. Oh and the university is a well known woke institution so anyone with access to records can change them doctor or not. Great topic!
@@finaloption... fortunately I live in a well organized 2A state with most LE support and as most people use the university medical system a note in a few groups news letters for people to check their charts might go a long way. Obvious that false entry was nefarious in nature…. Oops…. Now I may have a paranoid entry. Just in time for the national red flag law. This is a great topic and needs to be watched closely. Wondering if there is a law and penalty for entering false info into medical records.
Interesting. In NJ doctors ask routinely if you are feeling sad or anything, THEN have the nerve to charge $25 for a mental health screening!! I've told them multiple times to knock it off and I'm not paying for it. Always read your itemized EOB.
Ambulance and firefighters are also checking around your house when they show up for an emergency, they are also looking for anything illegal or suspicious and reporting it to law enforcement. I know that because my mom routinely calls for an ambulance and they snoop around her house and ask where any firearms are.
They cannot go anywhere in the household they do not need to, and that the property owner or resident does not give them permission to. Otherwise, they would need an accompanying law enforcement officer carrying a valid search warrant. Tell your mom to remind them of this very thing any next time they respond and then act so inappropriately, and that she will contact an attorney if they don't immediately knock it off. And to get their names, too. And to insist that any accompanying police officer document it all in his/her incident report writeup. That way it *is* on public record for any attorney to refer to in court.
My mother has one of those laser targets in the house. She had to call the EMS for my stepdad. Turned out it was okay. She let them take turns playing with the laser before they left.
Odds are if you're being treated for any kind of painful condition, you're also being prescribed some sort opioid for pain relief and anti depressants for depression which often affects patients' suffering constant pain. It's a perfect setup for a red flag order.
Yep, and even after I told the urgent care doctor opioid make me nauseous, he still prescribed them. Then I told the follow up doc I don't take these and tried to turn them in to him, he sid I really should take them and handed them back. It's like they want me to become an addict.
I REFUSED ALL MAJOR DRUGS . Recently when I broke my leg.and yelled at the doctor when I reminded him NO YOU WILL NOT EVEN SUGGEST ANY ADDICTIVE DRUGS PERIOD. I'd rather be in pain.( I only needed Tylenol for a couple weeks)
In many states medical marijuana in a couple even recreational use is legal, but the federal government has not legalized marijuana, and they're really pushing veterans to get legalized marijuana for depression for pain. I live in a state where medical marijuana is legal so my state application for state carry concealed certification asked if you use an an illegal drug. And saying no on your state application and having for prescription for medical marijuana is not lying, but if I remember correctly the federal background check ask that. And under those circumstances saying no is lying on the application being honest will automatically fail you on your background check enable flaget.
@@scottfirmanwhen I had to the emergency room for severe abdominal pain. I was given a morphine drip. Call most likely I was going to have to have room doctor if I wanted to stay so they can control my pain he had no argument with that or if I wanted to go home with pain medication, as long as I promised that I will continue to follow up with my gynecologist and my gyno oncologist I was scheduled to see. Can you give me a prescription for oxycodone for nine pills. A couple days later actually the following week I had my gynecologist appointment I asked her for a prescription for pain. The medication she prescribed causes dementia and shakiness. Which I didn't even fill. But they will prescribed opioids. But only for 2 days or 3 days I'm sorry cuz I got nine pills three pills a day.i really hate taking oxy. I feel like I've got bugs crawling on me. And I get constipated.
I went to therapy after back surgery. Half way thru we had to fill out paperwork. I refused all questions about depression due to pain. I told them I wasnt giving anyone any fake reason to question my gun ownership.
I've never been asked that question by a person in the medical field. I learned long ago to be aware of anything I say or express publicly. Furthermore, I'm 73 years old and have the gift of analyzing quickly. If I don't know something, it's time to research it!🤔🤔🤔🤭👍
I'm a psychiatrist in Oregon. I will NEVER participate in any of this. More providers need to be at small practices or practice independently. I don't understand why more don't-- the pay is usually better anyway. General advice if seeking any type of provider--- if you can think of more than 1 set of eyes that might be looking over your provider's shoulder, best go somewhere else. Lots of bigger practices/hospitals/institutions have other providers get nosey and criticize your provider's work, along with management, medical director(s), HR, etc. Technically speaking, it's a HIPAA violation for anyone without direct involvement in your care to access your chart, but this is hard to find out, as well as prove.
@@ie8443 It's tough, I run into this problem a lot with my patients when trying to find reasonable PCPs, therapists, other specialists etc. The issue is that most provider bios are all flowery and sound the same. In general, looking at small practices based out of rural areas is a good start. Again, I can't emphasize enough that the smaller the practice, the less likely they'll be asking these types of standardized questions, and the less likely HR is leaning on your provider. Our rights aside, these smaller places can do a LOT more for you in general, because "policy" doesn't get in the way. All the time, providers at corporate facilities think "oh, I can't prescribe that, what would the other docs think?!" If it's small, there is no such pressure. Technically speaking, I'd argue that any HR/admin individual attempting to influence another's practice, is engaging in a criminal act-- practicing medicine/nursing/etc. without a license.
I have a friend who is a psychiatrist who told me I was more likely to have the gun taken away and used on me (total nonsense) than I was to defend myself with it. Then there was a murder at an apartment complex not too far from her office which is well off the road and pretty dark at night when she leaves. She is a pretty, petite woman with long blonde hair, a target if there ever was one. She's gotten pretty good with her Sig P365 and also got her carry permit.
Our family Dr. started asking that question, we straight told him I'm not answering that question. They have asked a few other times, but they have it on record that we won't answer those kinds of questions. Be careful with small talk with the staff, they ask questions that are tricky by being friendly.
My Right to arms is not my doctors business and I will NEVER disclose to them. And my family knows to keep such things private. It has NOTHING to do with my health needs.
More than 24,000 people killed themselves with a gun last year. You can be pro-2A and still understand that ownership of a firearm comes with risks that outweigh the benefits for some people.
My friend told me that his son's school teacher asked students whether there were any guns in the house. Clearly overstepping their bounds and violating the childrens' rights, or so it would seem. Unreal!
If that question was asked in my neighborhood school in the 1970's the answer would have been a universal hell yes, you coming to the trap and skeet shoot on Saturday?
My wife had emergency surgery and on the first follow up the doctor had a long list of questions to answer...pages of questions Numerous questions about mental health and firearms. I took the form from her and answered many questions NOYFB.
Last trip to my dentist for a cleaning we talked guns alright but before I left he came to me and gave me a box of 17 HMR ammo he got from his truck and said "try these out on those ground hogs". 😁
I don’t recall my dentist asking this type question at all over the last couple of years. 🤷🏻 Rest assured, I shall be MUCH MORE attentive to it in the future. More so b/c I am having to sign up for Medicare(less)’s various parts in the very near future.
I first saw this about 20 years ago. At an appointment with a new urologist I was handed a 3 page form, a clipboard and a pen. The first 2 pages were legitimate family history questions. The third page started with “Have you had the flu vaccine?” Do you have smoke defectors at home? Do you wear seatbelts? At the bottom of the pages was a question about guns. I thought those were odd questions for any doctor to ask, much less a urologist. When I questioned the doctor I was told that if they could get a high rate of participation from their patients, Medicare/Medicaid would give the doctor a higher reimbursement rate. He said “I decline” was an acceptable response to any question. I explained that I didn’t say I declined, I just didn’t answer any questions on that page because they weren’t relevant to my treatment. That day I changed my policy so now I don’t answer any questions that aren’t directly related to my condition and treatment. Every doctor wants your weight, height and blood pressure as soon as you walk in - I just tell them that I decline to provide any information that isn’t necessary for treatment. Some get upset but that’s their problem. By declining height, weight and blood pressure when not needed, it cuts off all the other questions that are irrelevant. It’s worked for 20 years.
Back in the 90s, the Communist Clinton Crime Family rolled out a sample prototype of this. In some cities, doctors were asking their patients if they either had guns, supported gun ownership or did not support it. This sample of cities were in blue states. But this has already been planned and started. Today, since our country has been fully taken over by terrorists at the government level, this dormant attack can not be enforced. What were were warned about in the red states was to never never tell your doctor anything about your personal beliefs or constitutional beliefs. So if asked if you owned a gun, DO NOT SAY A WORD. Do not say no and do not say yes. And that is even if you did not own a gun. And that was over 30 years ago folks.
100% ACCURATE! Was released from a FLORIDA hospital after surgery in January 2024. Home Health (Nurses that do home visits) ordered by Dr. Home Health called to set up visits and ASKED ME IF I OWNED ANY FIREARMS. I said I didn't but asked them why they asked the question. Answer they gave me was TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THEIR STAFF. So they were going to REFUSE ME HEALTH CARE IF I HAD FIREARMS!!!!!
😁👍🏻 this exact thing was tried by my provider here in northwestern Illinois a few years back and my answers were exactly as you said … 1. It is NONE of your business 2. My family believes in our rights based on the constitution and especially the 2nd amendment 3. If you have a problem with this I would be more than happy to visit the doctor down the street ! Haven’t heard a word about it since
I was aware of this over a decade ago. When I became ill I traveled quite a bit to Mayo locations and other health clinics for 12 years. I traveled with a firearm. I would be unable to defend myself otherwise due to my health and size
Attempts by my doctor via a Health Survey each time I come in (typically 4-6 months), has questions of guns and I always cross it question out and move on but the last time I confronted my doctor and told her, if I am handed another one of these surveys, I won't be back. Since then (2 years ago) I've not seen another survey.
Problem is,if you tell them it's none of their business whether or not you own guns,or otherwise get belligerent,they'll take that as a"yes",and maybe even send that information to some"law-enforcement" agency,and have you"red-flagged"!
My doctors office has had that question on the front page of the questionnaire for the past 2 1/2 years. I have ALWAYS left that blank. As it IS NONE OF THEIR DAMNED BUISINESS! If I come in with a gunshot wound, that happened at home, then that question would be a lot harder to leave blank. But unless that happens, they DO NOT NEED TO KNOW!
I just got this question from a healthcare provider…I answered “no” because the option for “It’s none of your business” was not on the form. Always answer NO.
About 10-12 years ago my mother’s physician of almost 50 years asked her if there were any firearms in her home. (My husband and father both are/were LE so I’m pretty sure he already thought he knew what her answer was going to be) I was ready to answer for her, but she looked him in the eye and with her best poker face said a firm No! In a tone that warned him not to even try asking again. And he never did.
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In Florida, they actually passed a law making it illegal for a doctor to ask about firearms in your home....The doctor can lose his/her license to practice in this state....
Just a thought. This isn’t the first run using the medical avenue to attack the 2nd amendment. They pulled this back in the earlier 2000 by pediatricians.
Yup they do that here, they ask my daughter every emergency room visit, also ask if there is food in the house etc. I tell them every time they are complicit
Come to Texas. I-took my 4 year old to the ER. I concealed carry every day so let him know my firearm status. He asked what kind and said “ Yea, that’s a great piece.My wife carries one just like that”. Damn I love my State
I live in Illinois unfortunately. We took my 2 year old son in for his checkup. And that was the first time they asked that question. We put no even though we had some. We didn't ask any questions about it. We didn't get mad because that would look suspicious. We just sad no and looked at each other like wow wtf. It hasn't happened since.
Op handled this properly. Don't let them suspect shit. If they won't respect your right to privacy then dont bother respecting their intelligence. If the question doesn't concern your health then look them in the eye and lie with a smile ☺️
I notice that every dr appointment now requires you to answer a questionnaire regarding if you ever, and if so how often, feel sad/depressed/overwhelmed/anxious/hopeless and a host of other mental health related concerns. While it’s normal for most people to feel all of those emotions from time to time, the writing is on the wall that they’re laying the groundwork to red flag you! This questionnaire was at a general practitioner for annual bloodwork and also at a dermatologist. 😠 Also, when doing the required online check in for my child’s pediatrician appointment, the gun question was introduced.
I've been asked the same and generally ignore the question. A couple months back, my back surgeon noticed my ccw holster during an exam and asked what I carried so I told him that it is for my Sig P365. He got excited and told me that's what he carries too and we've had great Pro 2A discussions since!
back east, one must have a ccw for EACH weapon carried. some ccws are linked to the plate(s) of vehicles owned. out west you can obtain a ccw w/o owning a single piece.
@joevarga1769 actually, he didn't. Entire conversation was off record. He doesn't trust anti 2A either. I have checked my medical record also to verify that he kept it private.
Fun fact: you can provide your doctor a fee schedule and inform them they and their practice will be invoiced by the second for asking invasive questions. The clock started when you began preparing for your visit, not when you arrived or when the examination began.
If the govt. takes over health care. (Which they can't wait to do.) I guarantee you that lying about guns in the home will be a felony. They're working on it.
My Dr's sister is married to a Marine who runs a private security business. She carries everywhere except the office. Don't mess with the front desk staff and because they all carry..... She did ask about my carry habits, and asked why I didn't that day.... Then plugged her in laws company if I wanted tactical training, or needed range time to feel more comfortable with my carry habits.. May GOD Bless Texas!!
@@godblesstexas922 small town west of the DFW. Not going name it because to many idiots have moved in and they freak when they fi d our most of the teachers carry.....
@@1971_happylifedog my former DR in the same town asked this line of questions. He didn't like my answers very much. He also put up 30.05, 30.06 and 30.07 signs on his office. Last I heard his business was not doing so well....
I have been saying for years, NEVER tell your doctor you are depressed!!
Or angry.
Oh wait we need to end the stigma says the commercials, you know, cause actors know whats best.
Well how can that help someone that is? Don't you want them to get help?
@@ips7125Commercials for "new" antidepressants have made up a phrase, I believe it's "moderate response to antidepressants". I could be wrong about the exact phrase.
My bs tuner outer heard it and immediately translated "if you're on an antidepressant and still depressed, it's definitely not because the antidepressant and medical professionals didn't misdiagnose you or didn't provide you with effective or better treatment options. It's probably because of this phrase we recently made up that implies it's your fault because of your depression is that bad, your neurotransmitters or your genetics".
Don't worry, go talk to your doctor about adding this "new" antidepressant to better treat depression that's already being treated with antidepressant medication.
@@ips7125 exactly.....tons of commercials for therapy and they want to pull this crap...
They tried that question on me, "Do you have firearms in your home?" I asked the Doc "How many Dildos do you have at home?" She got upset and said that's rude and none of
your business! I said "Exactly !"
She's got ten: chop
Solid response, here.
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HAHAHAHA!!! I wish I were the fly on the wall for THAT ONE! EPIC!!! 😂😂😂
Good for you 👍
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dyin’…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Register Nurse here. If your doctor asks you if you own guns you tell them, "This seems like a boundary issue." They often back up faster than Vin Diesel in a car movie. If they don't stop you mention you will need to report this boundary issue to the state medical association.
hey, thanks for the tip. can you elaborate more on the "boundary issue"? what are you making them worried about, exactly?
From the N.I.H. web site:
"Boundary issues are disruptions of the expected and accepted social, physical, and psychological boundaries that separate physicians from patients".
But wouldn't the state medical association be the ones pushing for this kind of bs?
They wont care, its dubya h oh and see dee cee on this one.
Thank you for that response
My son filled out an evaluation in 6th grade at school that asked invasive questions. Bless his heart , he wrote down, "This is none of your business!".
Raising that young man right
I tried that shit as an 18 yo HS Senior in 1981.
It almost didn't end well for me.
I recommend "N/A" instead of "none of your business". The disarmers/Leftists have a LOT of power. Teach you're child to disarm the enemy, not themselves.
Well, he told the truth. I trust a person like that.
Homeschooling will become the only way to real education.
Well done parent!
NEVER answer questions about your mental health or your guns. PERIOD!
You don't always have a choice about mental health questions and answering those might be beneficial for you. For instance, pain management doctors have to give you questionnaires to determine if you're suicidal and questionnaires to determine susceptibility to addiction prior to prescribing strong pain medications. They have no choice in the matter. As for guns, that's none of their business so just say you don't own any.
In Illinois if you indicate on an unofficial looking questionnaire that you might be interested in mental health care, state police show up at your house to take away your FOID card. Nobody wants a crazy person to have a firearm, but what's the definition of crazy, and how does it differ from "just asking". (This is not based on my personal experience but on the experience of a friend.)
@@SteveSchildwachter We all know that IL is a commie run state. It's not about "crazy", it's about being a danger to oneself or others and that can only be determined by a doctor's evaluation. If rights are being taken away because someone is interested in getting help with their mild depression then the people need to stand up and put an end to it. FOID cards are unconstitutional as it is and with IL's new registry, I cannot fathom why the residents of that state have not risen up en masse against its government or started abandoning the state by the masses for greener pastures.
They tried that shlt on me yesterday after my kid was born " well...if you're feeling sad, you can call us" ita like.. dude, fk off
@@SteveSchildwachter Easy answer: don't live in a state that requires as FOID card, or any other card, for gun ownership.
Doctor:Do you own firearms?
Patient: I had to sell them to afford healthcare!
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Patient: Do you take payments from pharmaceutical companies to push their drugs on people who don't really need them?
This was the response I was looking for!! 😂😂😂
@@oblivionsa7973 Good point
FINALLY… an alternative to the “tragic boat accident” 😂😂😂
I noticed this ~15 years ago. I was in for my annual physical, and he asked me about smoke detectors and guns in my home. I was polite. I asked him why. He responded that it was about lifestyle safety. I told him it was none of his business. In a few weeks, I had found a new family doctor. P.s. I met my new doctor at the gun range...
No shet ? Good one !
I saw a cartoon related to that.
Guy is sitting on the exam table.
Doctor: "Do you have a gun in your home?"
Patient: "I have a gun in your office."
I had a similar experience when Klinton was fuhrer
Lol
That's awesome
@joevarga1769 🤣🤣🤣
As a physician who owns and enjoys gun ownership, I have no intention of asking my patients these questions. Thank God for the 2A
Scary… I am a physician. Several years ago, my organization added firearm questions to the Medicare paperwork, at the suggestion of CMS. Several of us doctors protested and got it removed. I have long refused membership in the American medical Association because of their stance. And remember 30 years ago when the CDC had sketchy research that was merely a front for an anti-agenda.
Thank you for your courage to stand up. God bless you!
Thank you for doing what’s right! Unfortunately, most doctors seem to mindlessly do what they’re told.
@@CatsAreNiceMeowMaybe the newer doctors fall in line and just do what they're told. My doctor of 20 years retired early after the ACA was fully implemented. Nurses and doctors have to report everything to HHS, who then tells the doctor how to treat their patients.
fyi: IT HAS BEEN RE~ADDED!
Just got this this form in some paperwork last mth. Am disabled & it was in a pkt titled Medicare (something?) @top of pg.
I actually retired in 2008 because of the more and more intrusive government involvement into my medical care! I also was involved in "clinical research" studies, and noticed how the "monitors" were requesting that I change my opinion on "adverse events" on a drug. The insurance was bad enough, but then big Pharma coming in with that, I was done. Now, I don't think M.D. stands for medical doctor anymore, I called it a Medication Distributor degree.
Teach your kids to distrust the establishment. They're gonna ask your kids about this as well at every opportunity, even at school.
they kinda do i got threatened for the cops to search my house cuz i was pretending to shoot a shotgun
Especially at school
Why would you subjugate children to school....you know it is social engineering camp system right?
@@dennisking4589 compulse attendance law where if you miss to many days of school you and your parents get fines, jail time or they just take you from your parents for child neglect
As Bob Marley says: "Tell the children the Truth!"
I just had a Dr. appointment last week, and my x Dr. pressed me on how many guns I have in the house. I told him it was none of his business. He told me that if I didn’t answer the question he could not be my Dr. so I got up and left.
You are very smart
That doctor is a dumb aaa!
Good for you. More people should follow your example.
Exactly! Don’t let yourself be forced into ANYTHING
U tell them 10 b guns
When a doctor has asked me a question like that I am very direct…”your asking me that question leads me to not trust you”.
But then they'll write down "paranoia"
I ASK FOR ALL MY RECORDS AND LEAVE AND NEVER GO BACK
@@now591Then they'll be finding a new patient.
why would anyone trust doctors ?
@@crisalcantara7671 RIGHT ON.... ONCE YOU REALIZED THEY ARE CONTROL BY BIG PHAMARA AND BRAINED WASHED TO THINK THEY WALK ON WATER ... YOU BE BETTER OFF ... MAY YOUNGEST SON AWOKE VERY EARLIER TO BULLLL
Doc: "Do you have any guns in your home?"
Patient: "Why? Do you think that's what's causing my constipation?"
That actually made me laugh out loud!
LOL
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Doctor: "....The, .... government ordered me to ask..."
Patient: "Your fired."
Doctor: "I don't work for you."
Patient: "Your retarded."
Unfortunately it becomes more nebulous when it’s those money-making time-wasting “wellness visits” (I.e., physicals, or in the old days, check-ups). They are asking about everything in a general visit under the guise of informing you how to less likely have medical problems due toaccidents e.g., gun shots, car accidents, bike accidents. Yet they don’t talk much about what kinds of foods you eat.
I am not answering any questions. If they ask, I say nope. I don't have anything. My late mom used to say "don't volunteer information".
This is an interesting question doc' , how about you; do Y0U own any firearms ?
"That's none of your business" seems likely to result in an assumption of "yes", and possibly give them an excuse to be "suspicious" if in a red flag state and they're looking for a reason. I'm not aware of penalties for lying to a doctor, so saying no seems likely to be the easiest path.
@@gregr2445 "do you smoke" nah...."do you have multiple partners" nah.... "do you own guns" nah..... millions of people lie to the doctors, everyday lol
@@gregr2445 Bingo. Just say "no." There is no legal requirement to be truthful with a doctor.
I'm only here for medical help
Doctors also ask quite often if you feel depressed, which I turn could be used against you to try and take your guns
They always ask women that. So they can prescribe psyc meds. Prozak, and so on. They drug the boys under the guise of adhd, then they drug the women under the guise of phyc. I feel fine doc. My concern has to do with fill in the blank.
This is the question I get asked on every routine visit. The answer is always no, and doesn't progress to fireams.
And they use this thing about taking dogs n cats into stores n etc... with you for anxiety. Ppl do it just to be able to take their dogs actually where they don’t belong. It’s not worth giving up your rights or admitting insanity just to have an animal go into a building with us. 😮
"Yes doctor, I'm depressed you're asking me if I'm depressed now STFU about it".
EXACTLY! It's abigFarmaSCAM to disarm!!
I had experience with this recently during a minor mental health evaluation. Follow up questions developed into full blown argument when I refused to remove guns from my home. After I left she called my emergency contact with same request. Never answer any questions about firearms from anybody.
MD here. My conversations with patients usually involve informing them what guns they should buy or how good they local shooting ranges are.
MVD !
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My kind of doc. =]
Dear God where can I find a good doctor!!?? I haven't seen one in like 10 years at least. I dread an emergency.
I only discuss medical issues with my MD. If he starts asking about firearms I start lying. The only privacy we have today is to keep our mouths shut. An MD giving advice concerning firearms to gun owners, is like a gun owner giving medical advice to an MD.
I'd be tempted to ask what course in med school covered firearms and quiz her about them. Any quip about guns dangerous and bad for health would be questioned, like how it affects my health. Fumes? It leaks a harmful miasma?
But I open carry to doc visits so I think she knows.
@@ericbunker6242you can't open carry in a medical facility.😆
@@HothenrikNot into most hospitals, but there is no blanket rule about "medical facilities" like k-12 schools. 😂
@@ericbunker6242lead vapors when shooting and handling the ammunition and gun isn’t healthy. Total plated projectiles is safest. 😅
@@EssenceofPureFlavormy clinic posted no guns or knives by the front door but the sign doesn’t have the legal law number on it, so they can’t legally enforce it. Doctors probably packing.
I am a board-certified Internist, and I will NEVER ask anyone these questions (Unless we're discussing hunting, shooting or reloading). The PREPONDERANCE of the evidence indicates that firearms in the hands of civilians SAVES lives. It is NOT a medical issue and certainly not a "public health issue" except to those who seek to disarm us. I will NEVER be a part of that crowd.
Outstanding. There used to be an organization under the Claremont Institute called Doctors for Reponsible Gun Ownership that my friend and ENT Dr. Tim Wheeler was a part of back in the 90s. We need them still.
You are awesome! 🙋👍
My doctor asks questions about guns. I tell him it’s not his business
I didn't realize my appointment was for a physical, only thinking blood tests. I offered to leave and reschedule. She said don't worry about it. 😅
Hi doc! While you might not ask your patients this question, take a look at your intake questionnaire if your facility uses EPIC - you probably never see this thing because your nurse or MA fills it out before you see them. “Are there any guns in your home?” is a question included in many intake profiles in EPIC.
I had my doctor ask me all of this last week. I told him I am retired Army EOD and I work with explosives, so I don't need firearms as I stared at him blankly. I have never seen someone's eyes get so wide with fear and try to end the appointment ASAP. That made my day.
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My daughters pediatrician ask this.
I ask him what business it was of his.
He started it was a standard AMA questionnaire concerning child safety.
I ask him how many gunshots of children he'd treated in his 30 plus years. He admitted to none.
I then ask him how many dog bites he'd treated. He couldnt answer that one.
Told him that it seemed to me a dog in the home was much more dangerous to childrens health than firearms. Why don't they ask that question.
We found a new doctor..
That was 20 years ago.
Good job!
Don’t give them any ideas. Next they will want to remove all dogs from the home because they are a danger….
My kids pediatrician office knew my profession (it was on their paperwork and of course my wife filled it out without any question as to why, so she knew i was an officer), i was in the office wearing a shirt that said "gun control means using both hands" with a guy who had a pistol in both hands. The nurse there looked at me and asked if i had any guns in my home, i looked at her, looked down at my shirt, looked at her again and said "between my profession and my shirt, take a guess, but I'm not answering your question."
They then sent in someone to lecture me about gun safety and storage and the first thing they told me was "any guns in the home are an extreme danger for your family." I asked that person if they ever owned a gun or ever took a gun safety course where they actually handle firearms. They said no... so i asked "what are the four general firearm safety rules?" they had no clue. I just laughed and told them to quit wasting my time because they KNOW nothing about gun safety... they are just repeating talking points they don't actually know anything about.
That is scary😱😱
This happened to a friend of mine who was going through a divorce. He took his teenage daughter to the doctor and he was asking her how she was feeling. She said she was sad because of the divorce. He asked her if there were guns in the house and she said yes. The nurse reported it. 2 days later, 3 state police cruisers arrived with 5 officers in tactical gear. They handcuffed him in his driveway while they searched his home. Photographed his guns, took down serial numbers and threatened to confiscate them. It wasn't until one of the troopers said he knew him and vouched for him that he was allowed to keep them. This man was a corrections officer of 18 years at the time. This happened in Connecticut around 15 years ago.
No warrant no entry.
Is it always the guy the "bad guy"???
Why didn't they question the woman??
Sorry... ??
@@mumbles215 Because of the Prep Act...don't need a warrant anymore and you can be forced vaccinated. All rights are gone.
@@Ana-db4km,
They do question women.
That is horrific. Why in the heck was any of that necessary? Simply because the government wants to find an excuse to take away firearms? Is it some excuse to protect citizens?
I fired all my doctors, figure I will live longer without them. They keep prescribing me dangerous drugs for diseases I don't have.
Never had a "doctor". Only need them to set casts, and perform stitches. the rest of that bullshit, is NOT OF YAHWEH, and was NEVER meant to be. Don't bother with treatment of diseases, because diseases are a by-product of EATING THE DEAD, which these bodies are NOT DESIGNED TO DO. Any TRUE DOCTOR, would tell you that, but they are 0.001% of the total number, who claim that profession.
Right! Thank you!
exactly but allot of dummies won't wake up to that fact
facts. i have a license for nursing and left bc its about morals. how they can morally stand there and watch the doctors screw over their patients just blows my mind. sure i could make hundreds of dollars an hour right now, but you cant pay me to keep ppl sick. and thats exactly what they are doing.
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Registered ER Nurse here. You asked what happens to that info. Answer: it goes into a massive database called EPIC, a nation-wide Electronic Medical Record (EMR) which is used by roughly 70% of all hospitals and health systems. EPIC is a searchable database and the “Are there any firearms in your home” question has a yes/no answer button. And cross-linked family files means that when you say “no, I don’t own any guns” during your urgent care visit, but your 14 year old says “yes, my parents have guns” during her sports physical… the implications are fairly clear. Just remember- every time you take your kids to the range teaching responsible gun handling and ownership, remind them that your guns were lost in a boating accident!
Or just explain what big government is and why it is OK to lie about gun ownership... as in, tell them to say "no guns in our house".
No, you teach your children at an early age to NEVER provide ANY information concerning fire arms in the home. This has been something 3 generations of our family have taught our children. Teachers, Doctors, ANYONE outside the home have no BUSINESS knowing anything about fire arms in our homes. Teach your children to say" That is NONE of your business" They can also say" Ask my parent that question, not me". A simple response will not draw attention to the child. The simpler the better.
Looking around, my boat was lost in a boating accident... along with all my firearms!
@@JK360noscopeexactly
My liberal doctor asked me and I said oh no I don't have any guns
None of their damn business@user-tj2zq8bs2x
OK, I’m a retired MD. I remember when the AMA (American Medical Association) first started the rumbling about requiring MDs to ask about firearms. I stated my objections and decided I would never follow any such recommendations. I quit my membership to the AMA looong ago - my first year out of med school as I recognized the politically charged path they were moving towards.
I personally grew up in a “gun house” as my dad is a shooter/gun collector/reloader. I learned to shoot age 5 and have never been without firearms. I shot competitively in my younger years. I taught all our kids to shoot whenever they showed interest.
So, even in my retirement I continue to shoot and hunt. And I’ve taken after my dad - I’m now a collector and will continue to buy/collect.
As a veteran I can confirm mental health specialists unfortunately don’t have our best interests at heart. Checked myself into the VA twice in La Jolla and they submitted an involuntary 5150 when I WAS ASKING FOR HELP. They did it BOTH TIMES and pretended like they didn’t know. I’m following the rules and trying to do the right thing and getting fucked for it. Automatically can’t own firearms for 7 years in Commiefornia and am appealing a case all the way to the Supreme Court.
I think there's another case ahead of you... The fact that the vet needed some kind of financial advice was grounds for taking away his weapons. Disgraceful.
@@OpusDogi how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
@crassgop "the Veteran's Administration. providing veterans additional opportunities to give their life for their country."
@@stevdieringer3828Big 10 4 on that one.
@crassgop The veterans administration is out to deny as much help to vets as they can, to save money !!
If my doctor had asked something like this, I would have told them that they already spend too little time discussing my symptoms and treatment strategies and too much time on questions that are not related to my diagnosis. And then I would write a complaint against the doctor, accusing them of unprofessionalism .
I’m an RN at a hospital and I can testify that on our admission history assessment there is a line item about if you own firearms. At this time it’s not labeled as required by my hospital and I don’t think I’ve ever come across a patient’s chart where it has been filled in with anything. If it ever becomes mandatory, I’ll have to come up with some way around it because there isn’t any way I’m participating in that kind of thing. The federal government definitely has access to your medical chart if you are on Medicare or Medicaid, but likely they could get that info from your chart without a warrant even if you weren’t. Most companies of all types have absolutely no qualms about handing over your personal info without a warrant in order to stay on the Feds’ good side
Should not sign hippa ever!
@@belindaschmidt9964Or the aca.
About 7-8 years ago I was at the UW Medical doctors office in Ballard and the doctor asked me about my gun storage at home. I refused to answer and asked how this was related to my healthcare. She said something about how guns are dangerous and can seriously affect your health. It’s very telling that they went straight to 100 on this one and didn’t even start out with asking about if I use seatbelts or take multivitamins. Nope. Went straight to guns. Unapologetically too. Seattle was I believe the first to start doing this crap.
I bet she also says voting republican increases your risk of cancer by 47%
I heard about this about five years earlier, but you are correct about being wide spread there , all this was falling on the heels of the Domestic battery reporting that started years before,
In leftist-controlled states(like Washington)they probably send that information to the"attorney general"(the reichsfuhrer),and maybe even the FBI.
My husband's doc asked if he had a rifle, supposedly to determine which shoulder he should put a monitor on if he underwent a certain procedure. Tricky. Deceptive, even. His assistant made a mark in the notes she was taking. Thia was under obama too.
Try military families. I had a form that asked if there were guns in the home for a physical for my daughter. More than 10 years ago.
I had a doctor 5 years ago that said he was required to ask me about guns. I started to say, 'it's none of their business'. He immediately interrupted me and replied, "your answer should be 'I don't have any guns', that way you won't raise any red flags". He was on my side. Lesson learned.
You should've asked him: required by WHO? what do you mean by"red flags"?
AND they probably record your conversation with your doctor especially if you have
Providence, Kaiser or Multicare/Deaconess, as I found out.
@@MrsMoon-qs2gf Recording a private conversation without consent, especially a privileged conversation, would violate most states' wiretap laws, not to mention would be a HIPAA violation.
@@thatguyrich9822 Yes, I know., which makes it all the more disturbing for me. I was very sick at the time and probably signed a consent form when I was admitted and didn't pay attention. Thanks
@@thatguyrich9822
4/12/24...DO YOU WANT TO BET THEY RECORD ALL THOSE WAITING + EXAMINING ROOMS?
REMEMBER YOUR CELL PHONE 📱 IS IN THERE RECORDING YOU TOO!
In Pennsylvania they have been asking this at doctor appointments for over 15 years along with questions about do you have alcohol in your home, do you smoke in your home, is there violence in your home, etc. I decline the survey every time.
Slightly off topic this but I once had a physical when I was younger and when my doctor asked if I was a smoker I said, “Hell, yeah!” He made a mark on the sheet and proceeded with the rest of the questions (of course I didn’t think anything was wrong). Afterwards I was handed the sheet for a signature and I happened upon the smoking question, the box was marked as ‘Tobacco abuse’ I was like “WTF?!?” And then I pointed out to the doctor what nonsense that particular question was. What other use does tobacco have? You either smoke it or chew it. I don’t know of any others. He said he didn’t know either. Unfortunately I still had to sign it. Can’t remember the reason why it has been so very long ago. But that question still remains, what the heck was tobacco abuse? Sorry for the rant.🤪
Edit: almost forgot. It was a pretty standard questionnaire, nothing about guns or how depressed I might be. That much I remember, just the tobacco question stuck around.🤪
Unreal how this wave of insanity continues...
Because u Americans allow it
Because u Americans allow it
@@DavidJongiboyou could say that again.
thank the demorats
Sniffy Joe Land.
Simple, answer 'No' to the question. Lying to a health care worker isn't a crime.
This is the correct answer. Reading a lot of the other blustery comments on the many things we "should tell them", but the fact is anything other than answering "no" is a tacit "yes" in a doctor's eyes.
Might as well lie to them. They lied to us about the "vaccine".
If you have to hide your guns it's probably necessary to use them
If I'm asked ill clutch my pearls or produce a rosary, then ask for an Ativan script to cope with the shock of the word 'gun'.
@@halfmil6467 🤣🤣🤣
I retired as a general surgeon in 2019. As Obama gifted us with the Affordable Care Act, he also mandated doctor and institutional compliance with use of the electronic medical record. And a specific number of the “necessary” questions had to be answered to get paid for service. A number of the questions included an inquiry of gun ownership in the name of public health. This data base is now well established. The barn door was already left open and the animals got out. Health care has been weaponized by big government.
Everything has been weaponized by government
My husband said they would make it a health issue.
Hippa really gave medical companies the right to share info on you with 3rd parties ( not insurance) im thinking government!
Hippa doesn’t have to be signed to receive care. A lot of folks don’t even know what they’re signing
Just imagine the government analyst making the query against standard medical database “SSRI prescribed AND (Has Firearms OR Refused to Answer Firearms)”
The playbook was written a long time ago. They are following it to the letter.
FBHO, FJB, and F every other wannabe tyrant in office.
The depression assessment is everywhere and definitely meant to turn on you.
Several times over the last few years I have had doctors and / or medical facilities ask me IF we have guns or firearms, and once ASSAULT RIFLES, in our home. I simply told them that what types or if I own firearms is NONE of their business anymore that what brand underwear I prefer or how I VOTE. It has no bearing on my treatment as I am NOT there for a gunshot wound.
On one occasion I had a 20something desk mouse TELL me that it was the LAW for them to get this info or they could DENY me service. I asked for her Office Manager and we had a very serious talk about my upcoming law suit.
I didn't get denied service that day, but I did move elsewhere after that visit. My money isn't going to places like that.
I would have said there’s no such thing as assault rifles .
@@pamkammann1176 It was just way easier to DEMAND that they show me the law, than argue semantics with people who thought they could do no wrong. Or who thought the average patient wouldn't stand up to them. I did report the facility with their in state professional medical council. Got a really nice letter from them assuring me that they were sending out a council wide letter RE-explaining why they can't do this survey.
Medical"professional": do you have any firearms in your home? how many?where are they stored?are any of them"assault"weapons? Translation: if I decide to"red flag"you,can"law enforcement"come over to your house at 3am and kick down your door without getting shot?
@@stevdieringer3828 I know that in my Patient Account it says "Patient declined to answer any non medical questions as his right under ??? Hospital policy BR-649" or some such weasel worded crap.
I still see a doctor from that hospital affiliation group, just not THAT particular office, so I still have any active portal with them.
Can't give you their name but this hospital group is university tied, big med school, team color is blue, central NC bound.
Don't want a liable suit.
Be aware that refusal to answer will be construed as a likely-yes. Not that it necessarily matters when our softcore police state already knows...
They started laying the groundwork for this with us seniors a few years back. Every single time you have an appointment you have to fill out this whole questionnaire and answer a whole slew of questions about your mental health. How often have you felt depressed in the last month. Stuff like that. When this first started I told my husband that this would possibly be used in the future to disarm legal firearm ownership. Hearing this video makes me think I just may have been right on that thought.
DONT ANSWER ANY MENTAL HEALTH QUESTIONS !!! Last time I was in the hospital I joked with the nurse telling her that one day they’ll lock me up on 72 hour mental health hold for NOT answering
Just filled one out for my physical next week. I LIE every time. Non of their damn business ever.
The Choctaw tribe health services has their patients to fill out a mental health questionnaire sheet everytime you go in for a appointment, I figure it's just a matter of time when they'll include the questions do you own a firearm and how many firearms do you own, and if they do that's when they'll get a earful from me and then I'll walk out and never go back. I'm convinced that most or perhaps every Native American Indian tribe is controlled by far left liberals, I know the Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma are starting from the very top, they're hard core far left democrat supporters on steroids.
My doctor started asking whether I owned firearms and if they were properly stored, and I looked him dead in the eye and told him that had no relevance to my physical condition or health. He started to stutter and mumble about how he had to ask, but I didn't have to answer, and quickly wrapped up with one or two normal questions acting as if that had not just happened. Keep pushing back.
You’re under no obligation to answer, but it’s not an irrelevant question to your health. Gun ownership raises your risk of suicide dramatically and some people are certainly safer without a gun.
@@StreetcarHammock Stop drinking the koolaid...
@@thomream1888 do you reject the basic idea that suicidal folks who have access to guns are at much greater risk of death than those who don’t? You can support 2A while accepting that suicide is a huge problem.
@@StreetcarHammockUmmmm people have unalived themselves in many ways without using a gun. Let's see now docs should ask, do you own rope? Do you use knives to cook? Do you have a bathtub in the house? Do you live in a high rise? Do you live near a bridge? Give it a rest.
@@jackiemack8653 Yep. My doc asked the question and I asked him why and he said that it's just on his form and he screens people for suicide risk. I told him I own two vehicles and I have a fully enclosed garage, so what's the difference because there are many many ways to unalive yourself. He went on to the next question. I fired him. I had a friend in college who committed suicide. He was an avid hunter and had a house full of guns. He used rope and a ceiling joist in the basement. I should have told my ex-doctor I had those things too.
Thank you for calling this what is, "disarmament", and not that silly "gun control"
Doctors have started to ask about firearms whether you live in a Red or Blue State along with asking if you "feel safe in your home." A continuous agenda for civilian disarmament by government.
"Do you feel safe in your home?"
"Yes, I do."
"Do you own firearms?"
"Yes, that's why I feel safe in my home."
Yep, I had all sorts of questions last visit ;do you feel safe, dies anyone abuse you ,does any yell at you ,ect. Risk management my ass, more like profile management. We all know who the criminals are.
@Chowda41 Exactly. Lie. And if you have kids, never let them be alone with a doctor and coach them on how to respond if they are asked questions like this.
You can thank Obama for this but I have a feeling Bush may have had a hand in it.
People say “that won’t happen” but look where we are today? Hundreds of “that won’t happen” later and we have even less rights.
Those people seem to believe that they have the ability to predict the future. Consequently, they are idiots.
All one need do is read the comments of a medical forum to know that it will absolutely happen with far too many of them. I've read MedPage since the pandemic broke out. Over half of the comments from doctors insist that anyone not a doctor is a rube and lacks intelligence to know what is best for themselves and only they know what is right, despite all indications to the contrary. Really, the only ones with what seems like the ability to reason or be reasonably are almost exclusively retired. That pretty much sums up the medical industry.
The people who say it won't happen are the people who are going to be the first to go
@@Knyaz22they don’t think they can predict the future, you fool.
They think they can successfully lie to your face, and to an extent it works because even when you catch them you think they’re stupid. In actuality, they’re horrifically evil.
Im over 70 and I haven't been to a doctor in many years and I don't plan on ever going to one again. God takes care of me.
me too. dumped the high blood pressure pills and dont go to the dr's any more. quality of life issue. refuse to run around getting endless tests so the dr "can be sure'. i will die of natural causes not medical interference. stay away from hospitals!!
That is what I have said for the last 7 years.
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Same here. I’d rather rot than go to the doctor or hospital. I completely lost trust in all of them.
Amen John!
People have no obligation to answer any question about firearm ownership and storage in a medical setting. NONE.
I went to a doctor’s office years ago in N.J. I was given a questionnaire. On it was the question “Do you own a firearm.” I did not answer it. I handed in my questionnaire back to the receptionist. She called me back up to the desk and said I need to answer these questions, referring to the ones regarding firearms. I told her those questions have absolutely nothing to do with my health. She insisted that I finish the questionnaire. So, I calmly asked her, “Do you own a vibrator?” That shit her up.
how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
The reason she immediately shut up is probably because her nightstand drawer has a large variety of different sizes and shapes.
lol
Never leave answers blank... leaves room for someone else to put in an answer...
Do you always copy and paste your answers?@@stevdieringer3828
Never tell a doctor or nurse if you smoke, drink, or have weapons in your house. It’s none of their business. But yet they ask at every checkup.
They'll know if you smoke or drink they can find out
Unless you have Native privilege and get healthcare for free! I’m not native enough for free healthcare, it’s just a family thing.
smoking and drinking are health issues, owning a gun is their health issue !
In my opinion, smoking and drinking are medical issues because they affect the body and can affect symptoms and doctor diagnosis and treatment. However, questions about firearms have no bearing upon medical care and have NO business in a medical setting.
@@daDurvisfirearms are noones business but the owner.
Refusal to answer questions will be considered a "YES" just like refusing to take a breathalizer test. Since it's none of their business and you're not under oath, JUST SAY NO.
Regardless of how you answer, they undoubtedly will write down, "yes!"
Agreed. Don't tip them off. Just lie--like a rug.
That’s really the cleanest way to do it. Say ‘no’ and move on.
It’s good to know they may ask so it doesn’t hit you as a surprise.
Plead the "Nancy Reagan".
Remain silent
Frightening development. Thank you for bringing this to light.
My Doctor gave me a questionnaire once. When he came into the exam room I asked him where the box 📦 "It's none of your fucking business"?
I had a doctor’s appointment a couple of days ago and I mentioned something to him that I heard on TH-cam relating to health. His response was “you can’t believe everything you hear on TH-cam”. In retrospect I should have said “ I know that doctor and you also can’t believe everything you hear at the doctor’s office”
@joevarga1769some Drs don't keep up with current studies so they are stuck in old ways of doing things. If you tell them new research indicates better methods are possible, they'll just assume you're an idiot and not even look into it.
@joevarga1769You blindly believe everything people in lab coats tell you?
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I had a PCP a couple of years ago, who had a question on the paperwork you filled out before an appt (about symptoms, meds, etc) that asked if you owned guns. I just wrote "None of your business." on it. I also won't answer questions about nationality, race etc.
The American Academy of Pediatrics has also made a formal recommendation to their members, that they should, when seeing a child, ask the parent to wait in the waiting room & then ask the child if their parents own guns & if so, how they're stored. I think the best idea is to just not let the Dr. see your kid alone.
how do you KNOW what was actually put as a response to that question ? did you review/get a copy of the question sheet ? i have gotten the patient advocate involved to have MY answers listed, not the desired responses.
Our 17 yo daughter was asked about guns at a physical appt
"none of your business" is a yes. Better to just answer "no" to such questions.
@@AllazanderSo much this
My kids *never* go into a doctor's office alone!
Both my husband and I just had our Medicare physicals. I was STUNNED when he asked if we had guns in our house!. I said no and immediately texted my husband to say no also! None of their business!
When I went to the VA last week for a routine yearly checkup, (there was nothing wrong with me) the questions they asked were bothersome to me; 'Are you feeling financially stable?' or 'Do you feel you have enough food to eat?' and the ever present question of 'do you feel suicidal?'. I answered with questions of my own; 'Are you a financial advisor', and 'Are you a psychiatrist'?, etc.. When the doc said no to my questions, I said "Then I have no comment". She said she needed an answer to all of them, and I refused. She left for a minute and then came back in and acted as if nothing had happened.. too crazy!
Entire medical community. I was checking out my med profile from the state university one chart who gives access to many state agencies. Said I was suffering from severe depression. I called them up and said where the heck did this come from and they said the doctor. I said what doctor. They said the doctor… again I said what doctor and they could not say(no record of diagnosing doctor). I said if you can’t verify then it needs to come out of my record. They said I would have to talk to the diagnosing doctor to do that. I said what doctor? They didn’t know but can’t remove without the doctors permission. Getting an attorney but for now my medical record contains a false entry. Oh and the university is a well known woke institution so anyone with access to records can change them doctor or not. Great topic!
Similar thing happened to me
You have EVERY legal right to have that false entry REMOVED
Ahh... the old "Who's on first" skit.
I don't think that's gonna play out too well.
@@finaloption... fortunately I live in a well organized 2A state with most LE support and as most people use the university medical system a note in a few groups news letters for people to check their charts might go a long way. Obvious that false entry was nefarious in nature…. Oops…. Now I may have a paranoid entry. Just in time for the national red flag law. This is a great topic and needs to be watched closely. Wondering if there is a law and penalty for entering false info into medical records.
@@Rink03 ha… I have the right just not sure about the ability. Appreciate the feedback. 👍
Just say NO or check the box No! That simple! Not angry, not depressed, I feel fine except for physical ailment for which I am here for!
Exactly.
Do you feel sad? No. Have you felt hopeless? No.
Are you anxious? No.
On a scale of 1-5, how do you rate your mental health? 5
Interesting. In NJ doctors ask routinely if you are feeling sad or anything, THEN have the nerve to charge $25 for a mental health screening!! I've told them multiple times to knock it off and I'm not paying for it. Always read your itemized EOB.
AHHHHHH....... very interesting! NOW we know why they are so interested in asking you those questions..... MORE MONEY!
I had my VA doctor ask me years ago. I said, "thats a very inappropriate question." Got up and never been back to the VA.
You're either lying, exaggerating, miss remembering, or willfully leaving out details.
@SonOfTheDawn515 none of the above. It was the Portland, Or VA.
Ambulance and firefighters are also checking around your house when they show up for an emergency, they are also looking for anything illegal or suspicious and reporting it to law enforcement. I know that because my mom routinely calls for an ambulance and they snoop around her house and ask where any firearms are.
They cannot go anywhere in the household they do not need to, and that the property owner or resident does not give them permission to. Otherwise, they would need an accompanying law enforcement officer carrying a valid search warrant. Tell your mom to remind them of this very thing any next time they respond and then act so inappropriately, and that she will contact an attorney if they don't immediately knock it off. And to get their names, too. And to insist that any accompanying police officer document it all in his/her incident report writeup. That way it *is* on public record for any attorney to refer to in court.
My mother has one of those laser targets in the house. She had to call the EMS for my stepdad. Turned out it was okay. She let them take turns playing with the laser before they left.
They are also looking for anything valuable, and drugs in your medicine cabinet.
Odds are if you're being treated for any kind of painful condition, you're also being prescribed some sort opioid for pain relief and anti depressants for depression which often affects patients' suffering constant pain. It's a perfect setup for a red flag order.
Yep, and even after I told the urgent care doctor opioid make me nauseous, he still prescribed them. Then I told the follow up doc I don't take these and tried to turn them in to him, he sid I really should take them and handed them back. It's like they want me to become an addict.
No doctor prescribes an opiod any more. Good luck on that one. Most doctors refuse to hear you say the word chronic pain. They change the subject.
I REFUSED ALL MAJOR DRUGS . Recently when I broke my leg.and yelled at the doctor when I reminded him NO YOU WILL NOT EVEN SUGGEST ANY ADDICTIVE DRUGS PERIOD. I'd rather be in pain.( I only needed Tylenol for a couple weeks)
In many states medical marijuana in a couple even recreational use is legal, but the federal government has not legalized marijuana, and they're really pushing veterans to get legalized marijuana for depression for pain. I live in a state where medical marijuana is legal so my state application for state carry concealed certification asked if you use an an illegal drug. And saying no on your state application and having for prescription for medical marijuana is not lying, but if I remember correctly the federal background check ask that. And under those circumstances saying no is lying on the application being honest will automatically fail you on your background check enable flaget.
@@scottfirmanwhen I had to the emergency room for severe abdominal pain. I was given a morphine drip. Call most likely I was going to have to have room doctor if I wanted to stay so they can control my pain he had no argument with that or if I wanted to go home with pain medication, as long as I promised that I will continue to follow up with my gynecologist and my gyno oncologist I was scheduled to see. Can you give me a prescription for oxycodone for nine pills. A couple days later actually the following week I had my gynecologist appointment I asked her for a prescription for pain. The medication she prescribed causes dementia and shakiness. Which I didn't even fill. But they will prescribed opioids. But only for 2 days or 3 days I'm sorry cuz I got nine pills three pills a day.i really hate taking oxy. I feel like I've got bugs crawling on me. And I get constipated.
I went to therapy after back surgery. Half way thru we had to fill out paperwork. I refused all questions about depression due to pain. I told them I wasnt giving anyone any fake reason to question my gun ownership.
I told them I'm into pain... on cloud nine
I've never been asked that question by a person in the medical field. I learned long ago to be aware of anything I say or express publicly. Furthermore, I'm 73 years old and have the gift of analyzing quickly. If I don't know something, it's time to research it!🤔🤔🤔🤭👍
Sue the doctor patient confidentiality violation of hippa law
Laws can be changed overnight.
HIPAA.
@@Lsidjejaickenw833 auto correct but thank you for the correction
Dr asked me about my firearms walk out of the office custom money make stupid questions hurt
@@markdoolen6741 no prob. I find it weird that autocorrect would have hippa as a real word - would think it would try to go to hippo 🦛
I'm a psychiatrist in Oregon. I will NEVER participate in any of this. More providers need to be at small practices or practice independently. I don't understand why more don't-- the pay is usually better anyway. General advice if seeking any type of provider--- if you can think of more than 1 set of eyes that might be looking over your provider's shoulder, best go somewhere else. Lots of bigger practices/hospitals/institutions have other providers get nosey and criticize your provider's work, along with management, medical director(s), HR, etc. Technically speaking, it's a HIPAA violation for anyone without direct involvement in your care to access your chart, but this is hard to find out, as well as prove.
Is there any resource to find pro-liberty mental health care?
@@ie8443 It's tough, I run into this problem a lot with my patients when trying to find reasonable PCPs, therapists, other specialists etc. The issue is that most provider bios are all flowery and sound the same. In general, looking at small practices based out of rural areas is a good start. Again, I can't emphasize enough that the smaller the practice, the less likely they'll be asking these types of standardized questions, and the less likely HR is leaning on your provider. Our rights aside, these smaller places can do a LOT more for you in general, because "policy" doesn't get in the way. All the time, providers at corporate facilities think "oh, I can't prescribe that, what would the other docs think?!" If it's small, there is no such pressure. Technically speaking, I'd argue that any HR/admin individual attempting to influence another's practice, is engaging in a criminal act-- practicing medicine/nursing/etc. without a license.
I have a friend who is a psychiatrist who told me I was more likely to have the gun taken away and used on me (total nonsense) than I was to defend myself with it. Then there was a murder at an apartment complex not too far from her office which is well off the road and pretty dark at night when she leaves. She is a pretty, petite woman with long blonde hair, a target if there ever was one. She's gotten pretty good with her Sig P365 and also got her carry permit.
Our family Dr. started asking that question, we straight told him I'm not answering that question. They have asked a few other times, but they have it on record that we won't answer those kinds of questions. Be careful with small talk with the staff, they ask questions that are tricky by being friendly.
My doctor doesn't need to know ANYTHING about what I have at home.
Except on House. That guy went out to snoop around people's houses every other week and always saved their life. 👍
My Right to arms is not my doctors business and I will NEVER disclose to them. And my family knows to keep such things private. It has NOTHING to do with my health needs.
More than 24,000 people killed themselves with a gun last year. You can be pro-2A and still understand that ownership of a firearm comes with risks that outweigh the benefits for some people.
@@StreetcarHammock How many people we killed last year by"doctors"(malpractice)?
@@StreetcarHammockbot
My friend told me that his son's school teacher asked students whether there were any guns in the house. Clearly overstepping their bounds and violating the childrens' rights, or so it would seem. Unreal!
If that question was asked in my neighborhood school in the 1970's the answer would have been a universal hell yes, you coming to the trap and skeet shoot on Saturday?
I bet that teacher has at least 2 or 3 guns in his house if you searched him.
There are still parents out there that are pro-government enough to send their kids to brick and mortal schools instead of virtual school at home ?
@@TheRealSyrettyou’re backwards asf thinking digital classrooms are better in anyway
@TheReyalSyrett yup
My wife had emergency surgery and on the first follow up the doctor had a long list of questions to answer...pages of questions Numerous questions about mental health and firearms.
I took the form from her and answered many questions NOYFB.
Wife and I love your channel. You very clearly go above and beyond…
Last trip to my dentist for a cleaning we talked guns alright but before I left he came to me and gave me a box of 17 HMR ammo he got from his truck and said "try these out on those ground hogs". 😁
Mine showed me his antique pistol collection!
I don’t recall my dentist asking this type question at all over the last couple of years. 🤷🏻 Rest assured, I shall be MUCH MORE attentive to it in the future. More so b/c I am having to sign up for Medicare(less)’s various parts in the very near future.
our dentist has Garden & Gun magazine in his waiting room....great guy...and his hygienist conceal carries every day.
My dentist hunts the land behind my house. 1st early Saturday morning in November. "BOOOM!" Me: Dr. Mac got him one!
At my last appointment the tech gave me the website for Roger's for the best ammo prices!
I first saw this about 20 years ago. At an appointment with a new urologist I was handed a 3 page form, a clipboard and a pen. The first 2 pages were legitimate family history questions. The third page started with “Have you had the flu vaccine?” Do you have smoke defectors at home? Do you wear seatbelts? At the bottom of the pages was a question about guns. I thought those were odd questions for any doctor to ask, much less a urologist. When I questioned the doctor I was told that if they could get a high rate of participation from their patients, Medicare/Medicaid would give the doctor a higher reimbursement rate. He said “I decline” was an acceptable response to any question. I explained that I didn’t say I declined, I just didn’t answer any questions on that page because they weren’t relevant to my treatment.
That day I changed my policy so now I don’t answer any questions that aren’t directly related to my condition and treatment. Every doctor wants your weight, height and blood pressure as soon as you walk in - I just tell them that I decline to provide any information that isn’t necessary for treatment. Some get upset but that’s their problem. By declining height, weight and blood pressure when not needed, it cuts off all the other questions that are irrelevant. It’s worked for 20 years.
Same thing happened to me minus the question about guns. I simply didn't answer.
Back in the 90s, the Communist Clinton Crime Family rolled out a sample prototype of this. In some cities, doctors were asking their patients if they either had guns, supported gun ownership or did not support it. This sample of cities were in blue states. But this has already been planned and started. Today, since our country has been fully taken over by terrorists at the government level, this dormant attack can not be enforced. What were were warned about in the red states was to never never tell your doctor anything about your personal beliefs or constitutional beliefs. So if asked if you owned a gun, DO NOT SAY A WORD. Do not say no and do not say yes. And that is even if you did not own a gun. And that was over 30 years ago folks.
@@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bitsphremasina made it wht it was when they made it. Nobody took over anything. It was always like this.
100% ACCURATE! Was released from a FLORIDA hospital after surgery in January 2024. Home Health (Nurses that do home visits) ordered by Dr. Home Health called to set up visits and ASKED ME IF I OWNED ANY FIREARMS. I said I didn't but asked them why they asked the question. Answer they gave me was TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THEIR STAFF. So they were going to REFUSE ME HEALTH CARE IF I HAD FIREARMS!!!!!
To ensure the safety of their staff? WOW!
I know, those pesky firearms just get up and start shooting at any given moment 😮
@@adambirman2379 ARE THESE LEO HEALTH CARE'RS? LEO HAVE A HISTORIC RECORD OF THEIR VICTIMS HAVING DELAYED HEALTH CARE!
😁👍🏻 this exact thing was tried by my provider here in northwestern Illinois a few years back and my answers were exactly as you said … 1. It is NONE of your business 2. My family believes in our rights based on the constitution and especially the 2nd amendment 3. If you have a problem with this I would be more than happy to visit the doctor down the street ! Haven’t heard a word about it since
Unfortunately, most doctors probably just write down “gun owner” anytime we provide an answer like that.
you could respond by invoking the 5th Amendment. that still does not insure the accuracy of what YOUR responses are, opposed to what is desired.
So, you self-identified as a gun owner.... The correct answer is no.
Just say no period. When you answer like that, they know the answer is yes.
you said too much
I was aware of this over a decade ago. When I became ill I traveled quite a bit to Mayo locations and other health clinics for 12 years. I traveled with a firearm. I would be unable to defend myself otherwise due to my health and size
Attempts by my doctor via a Health Survey each time I come in (typically 4-6 months), has questions of guns and I always cross it question out and move on but the last time I confronted my doctor and told her, if I am handed another one of these surveys, I won't be back. Since then (2 years ago) I've not seen another survey.
They have been asking me this question in Oregon for years!!! And I have been refusing to answer for the same number of years.
Correct answer is "not your business"
"FUCK YOU" would also be acceptable IMO
Problem is,if you tell them it's none of their business whether or not you own guns,or otherwise get belligerent,they'll take that as a"yes",and maybe even send that information to some"law-enforcement" agency,and have you"red-flagged"!
@@robertlawson698 I wont show them ANY identification and go to cash-up-front urgent care.
The correct answer is one that doesn't draw their attention.
The correct answer is no.
My doctors office has had that question on the front page of the questionnaire for the past 2 1/2 years. I have ALWAYS left that blank. As it IS NONE OF THEIR DAMNED BUISINESS! If I come in with a gunshot wound, that happened at home, then that question would be a lot harder to leave blank. But unless that happens, they DO NOT NEED TO KNOW!
I've been seeing these items on questionnaires for years, but there still isn’t a "boating accident" box 😢
That was no boating accident! It was a shark bite with a mouth about this big!
I just got this question from a healthcare provider…I answered “no” because the option for “It’s none of your business” was not on the form. Always answer NO.
About 10-12 years ago my mother’s physician of almost 50 years asked her if there were any firearms in her home. (My husband and father both are/were LE so I’m pretty sure he already thought he knew what her answer was going to be) I was ready to answer for her, but she looked him in the eye and with her best poker face said a firm No! In a tone that warned him not to even try asking again. And he never did.
Probably no coincidence that a federal red flag operation got announced not long after doctors began asking about firearms.
Adhd, anxiety, depression, any dependency. Yup, I called this out YEARS ago.
The only thing your doctor should be concerned about is why YOU’RE there. Not about your personal life.
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In Florida, they actually passed a law making it illegal for a doctor to ask about firearms in your home....The doctor can lose his/her license to practice in this state....
Just a thought. This isn’t the first run using the medical avenue to attack the 2nd amendment. They pulled this back in the earlier 2000 by pediatricians.
What stops people from lying? If they think you are lying, what are they going to do?
people business 🙄,
Elaborate
And thus, even as a medical professional I recommend extreme caution when discussing and trusting your "provider"...
Thankfully my dr and I talk about guns all the time…..like “what you currently shooting the most”. He is the best
Beast
And he will go behind your back and mark "yes" on you owning guns.
@@adambirman2379 thankfully he won’t. We are friends and country boys
Admit nothing, deny everything and demand proof.
Everything you say, can and will be held against you.
Absolutely correct sir !
With loaded questions like that, anything you DON'T say can and will be used against you!
You forgot “
And make counter accusations 😂”
Yup they do that here, they ask my daughter every emergency room visit, also ask if there is food in the house etc.
I tell them every time they are complicit
Are you a hillbilly? I always wonder if they just hate us. I'm scared to ever see a doctor😭
Come to Texas. I-took my 4 year old to the ER. I concealed carry every day so let him know my firearm status. He asked what kind and said “ Yea, that’s a great piece.My wife carries one just like that”. Damn I love my State
Texan also. They don’t ask dumb questions like that here. Everyone has them! Awesome!
Same for Oklahoma. It's great living in a free state.
They definitely ask that all over Texas, its a great state but same shi
I live in Illinois unfortunately. We took my 2 year old son in for his checkup. And that was the first time they asked that question. We put no even though we had some. We didn't ask any questions about it. We didn't get mad because that would look suspicious. We just sad no and looked at each other like wow wtf. It hasn't happened since.
Solid observation, here.
Op handled this properly. Don't let them suspect shit. If they won't respect your right to privacy then dont bother respecting their intelligence.
If the question doesn't concern your health then look them in the eye and lie with a smile ☺️
I notice that every dr appointment now requires you to answer a questionnaire regarding if you ever, and if so how often, feel sad/depressed/overwhelmed/anxious/hopeless and a host of other mental health related concerns. While it’s normal for most people to feel all of those emotions from time to time, the writing is on the wall that they’re laying the groundwork to red flag you! This questionnaire was at a general practitioner for annual bloodwork and also at a dermatologist. 😠
Also, when doing the required online check in for my child’s pediatrician appointment, the gun question was introduced.
I've been asked the same and generally ignore the question. A couple months back, my back surgeon noticed my ccw holster during an exam and asked what I carried so I told him that it is for my Sig P365. He got excited and told me that's what he carries too and we've had great Pro 2A discussions since!
That is indeed a great CCW firearm.
back east, one must have a ccw for EACH weapon carried. some ccws are linked to the plate(s) of vehicles owned. out west you can obtain a ccw w/o owning a single piece.
@joevarga1769 actually, he didn't. Entire conversation was off record. He doesn't trust anti 2A either. I have checked my medical record also to verify that he kept it private.
@@stevdieringer3828 bummer
Fun fact: you can provide your doctor a fee schedule and inform them they and their practice will be invoiced by the second for asking invasive questions. The clock started when you began preparing for your visit, not when you arrived or when the examination began.
There's no law that says you can't flat out lie to your doctor about these questions.
If the govt. takes over health care. (Which they can't wait to do.) I guarantee you that lying about guns in the home will be a felony. They're working on it.
My Dr's sister is married to a Marine who runs a private security business.
She carries everywhere except the office. Don't mess with the front desk staff and because they all carry.....
She did ask about my carry habits, and asked why I didn't that day....
Then plugged her in laws company if I wanted tactical training, or needed range time to feel more comfortable with my carry habits..
May GOD Bless Texas!!
@@godblesstexas922 small town west of the DFW.
Not going name it because to many idiots have moved in and they freak when they fi d our most of the teachers carry.....
I’m Texan too. I’ve never seen those questions because everyone I know of has them at home and also carries. Awesome!
@@1971_happylifedog my former DR in the same town asked this line of questions. He didn't like my answers very much. He also put up 30.05, 30.06 and 30.07 signs on his office.
Last I heard his business was not doing so well....
If my doctor asks the answer is a resounding no.
It's none of their business
Yep. I was asked this question last year during my health check. When the phyician assistant asked this question, my response was N/A.