Thanks for the video. As a novice to these kinds of upgrades, it would be nice to see what these changes actually do when running programs or games. Not just a Sys Info read out. I'm yet to come across a video that really shows what the other benefits are of such accelerators. But it was interesting to see the install.
Thanks for watching. When time permits, I will try to showcase real-world benefits versus synthetic style benchmarks, such as SysInfo. I'll see what I can do. I can't promise when but it will happen... eventually 😃
Indeed, especially for the smallest Amiga of them all. I wasn't a fan of the Amiga 600 at first, but that changed over the years. Plus, they are way more expandable than first thought.
@@amigaretro1985 What about getting a XBOX360 into developer mode and installing RETROARCH then installing AMIGOS from the AMIGA Forever DVD disc and would mean you have X3 PowerPC cores instead of just one PowerPC core.
If it hasn't already that accelerator will pop off in the future, I have one and it does it quite often now. Each time you clip the socket down over the 68K the more grip it loses. So your concern was warranted.
Agreed. This concern was raised in my Video. I am not sure why they didn't go with a stand off mounting solution was used by Individual Computers with their ACA 620 and ACA 630 boards, using the existing slots for the HDD caddy on the A600's motherboard.
I really like my A630. It is so much more reliable than my Furia was! I cannot fully tighten my case, as the fan hits the keyboard cable when I do. The creator has released the files to 3D print a little fan cover to stop this from happening.
I have the Furia in my other Amiga 600 (it's the lower clocked passively cooled variant). It' not too bad, but I wanted a fast 030 as the heart of this under-appreciated Amiga model of awesomeness.
Thanks. I have been to your channel; you do not give yourself enough credit. Plus, the fact you cover one of the best computers ever made, you are good in my books 😀
Yes, the main problem with the new A630 card is the missing screw holes (at least the left one). The socket, as good as it is, will get loose over time for sure, i don't know why the designer skipped this.
It is odd indeed. The Indivision AGA MK-III has not left the Lisa Chip on my A1200 yet, it doesn't have any mounting hardware but it takes some effort to seat the socket, at least twice as much as the A630. The 68000 CPU does get a bit warm. It may be a matter of time before the socket works it way free after several hot and cool cycles.
Great video thanks for uploading. Ive just bought this card and had nothing but issues with freezes but after watching you install the MMU library that's maybe where ive gone wrong will try again and see if it fixes the issue.
An interesting fact I discovered after visiting the Manufacturer's Website (after making this Video), is you need to add a piece of foam or cardboard on top of the X1 Crystal on the Amiga 600's Motherboard to prevent the A630's 68030's CPU pins from shorting against the metal body of the Crystal. See if this helps your instability issues, if not already in place.
@@amigaretro1985 I have the same issue as UK Retro Gamer and I used a piece of foam on the X1. I think the problem could be, that we got a model with older firmware. Because my "Chip Speed vs A600" in Sysinfo is always at 1.20 with installed MMU.
SysInfo 4.4 shows about the same on my setup. Older versions, such as 4.0 show a higher Chip Speed versus A600, I believe around 3 times faster. Realistically, I think the score of 1.2 is more accurate (if in your case you are using SysInfo 4.4), since it is an A600 your are comparing against, being the same 16-bit bus architecture.
@@amigaretro1985 Yeah, I use Sysinfo 4.4. @freeze: The freezing is probably due to an older firmware. The latter A630 were delivered with a new, very stable, firmware. The only possibility for an update would be the reflash with the Xilinx programmer. The developer told me that.
New viewer/subscriber here 👍🏻 TH-cam algorithm brought me here 😉 Nice video 🎉 Couple of things. 1).. The A630 looks to be a nice card, although no FPU? Is this an option? 2)… When installing ThorsMMULib (Thomas Richter) that you should ideally run this in “expert mode”. This also gives you options with the CPU you want SetPatch to detect 👍🏻 Look forward to your next content and learning how to make 1MB ROMs. Cheers 🍻
Thanks for subscribing. 1) There is no FPU option, though the CPU is a full 68030 (not an EC model) so it does have the built-in MMU, thus why you can use the MMU Libs from Aminet. 2) Intermediate or expert is fine, normally I have not had issues in any installation mode, since the installer detects the correct CPU and installs the correct library to Libs:, but Expert Mode definitely gives you more control over the Setup process.
Thanks. I am glad you liked the Video. The Clock Program I use is called DClock 1.6, it's available on Aminet. It uses very little system resources and runs on Kickstart/Workbench 2.04+, it also needs reqtools.library V38+. The requirements are mentioned in the included DOC file in the Aminet Archive. DClock: aminet.net/package/util/time/DClock16 ReqTools Lib: aminet.net/package/util/libs/ReqToolsUsr
The Manticore from Apollo Computers offers AGA and 16-bit Audio options as well as and fast FPGA CPU Core. I have once but have never goy around to installing it :) Compatibility will vary across game titles... Manticore for the A600: shoq.apollo-computer.com/product_info.php?products_id=4
They are part of the Magic Workbench distribution. You can get a copy from Aminet. Search for "MagicWB21p.lha" at aminet.net It's shareware and needs to be registered after 14-days. I think this is still the case after all these years. Here is the Link to the SASG Magic Workbench website: www.sasg.com/mwb/index.html The nice thing is you only need an 8 colour screen mode, though 16 colors are ideal. Helps save your precious chipram :)
Thanks for watching my Video. The ACA1233n-55 is a nice card. I also have the ACA500Plus (the latest version). It does have nice CF Transfer speeds. The additional CF slot is nice as well. The A600s (and 1200s) onboard IDE interface is not the greatest but works well enough :)
The system will boot to the Kickstart Start Screen if no CF is connected (Kickstart 3.1 or 3.2.2). Kickstart 1.3 works as well with the 1.3 ROM. Since Kickstart 1.3 does not have a scsi.device, the Insert Workbench Disk comes up pretty fast. since it isn't checking for an attached IDE device. My A600 boots floppy disks and games without issue. Does your A600 boot fine with Kickstart 1.3?
@bzyq81 Make sure the 68000 on the A600's motherboard is clean. Using IPA (Rubbing Alcohol) and a Q-Tip on all 4 corners of the chip's pins will help. Make sure no fuzzies are left behind from the Q-Tip. Using a Micro-fiber cloth works well too. Also, make sure the 630's socket is clean and securely seated to the 68000 . To do this, place the accelerator 's socket on top the CPU and push uniformly down on the center of the topside of the 630's socket. It should snap into place in one go.
Hello, thanks for watching my Videos! The ground wire is for the Indivsion ECS MK-III VGA scandoubler from Individual Computers. Since VGA is an analogue signal, the ground wire is to help reduce interference in the Video Output. Though from experience, it is rarely needed.
@@amigaretro1985 oo ok, i own the Indivision AGA MK3, but supports both VGA and a fully digital output. So do i need to attach ground wire too? Im using digital output
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Thanks for the video. As a novice to these kinds of upgrades, it would be nice to see what these changes actually do when running programs or games. Not just a Sys Info read out. I'm yet to come across a video that really shows what the other benefits are of such accelerators. But it was interesting to see the install.
Thanks for watching. When time permits, I will try to showcase real-world benefits versus synthetic style benchmarks, such as SysInfo. I'll see what I can do. I can't promise when but it will happen... eventually 😃
Cool, nice guide. There is something so satisfying adding this much power to these machine. Back in the day I was happy with adding a hard drive.
Indeed, especially for the smallest Amiga of them all. I wasn't a fan of the Amiga 600 at first, but that changed over the years. Plus, they are way more expandable than first thought.
@@amigaretro1985 What about getting a XBOX360 into developer mode and installing RETROARCH then installing AMIGOS from the AMIGA Forever DVD disc and would mean you have X3 PowerPC cores instead of just one PowerPC core.
Nice job . Commodore Amiga for ever ❤
If it hasn't already that accelerator will pop off in the future, I have one and it does it quite often now. Each time you clip the socket down over the 68K the more grip it loses. So your concern was warranted.
Agreed. This concern was raised in my Video. I am not sure why they didn't go with a stand off mounting solution was used by Individual Computers with their ACA 620 and ACA 630 boards, using the existing slots for the HDD caddy on the A600's motherboard.
@@amigaretro1985Any update on the pop off-issues? Would be cool with a hack that make it possible to secure it better.
I’ve seen Chris E. put a blob of hot glue on the center cpu hole of the A630. Glue can be easily removed with IPA if needed.
That will work. I have used IPA to remove Hot Glue in the past. Thanks for the Tip 🙂
The center cpu hole? In the center of the socket?
I have that same oven! great job as always
Thanks
Heard about this accelerator before, thanks for the great review! That's the card i'll replace my Furia with in the future.
It is a nice card. Great build quality.
I really like my A630. It is so much more reliable than my Furia was! I cannot fully tighten my case, as the fan hits the keyboard cable when I do. The creator has released the files to 3D print a little fan cover to stop this from happening.
I have the Furia in my other Amiga 600 (it's the lower clocked passively cooled variant). It' not too bad, but I wanted a fast 030 as the heart of this under-appreciated Amiga model of awesomeness.
I like my A600 with Furia. It really gave her life and meaning, with very affordable price.
Hey Doug! Can you share a link to the location of those 3d files?
Nice video and setup you got there! :-]
This video reminds me of my videos except yours are more pleasing and helpful. :) thank you!
Thanks. I have been to your channel; you do not give yourself enough credit. Plus, the fact you cover one of the best computers ever made, you are good in my books 😀
@@amigaretro1985 aww hey thanks! Long live Amiga!
Yes, the main problem with the new A630 card is the missing screw holes (at least the left one). The socket, as good as it is, will get loose over time for sure, i don't know why the designer skipped this.
It is odd indeed. The Indivision AGA MK-III has not left the Lisa Chip on my A1200 yet, it doesn't have any mounting hardware but it takes some effort to seat the socket, at least twice as much as the A630. The 68000 CPU does get a bit warm. It may be a matter of time before the socket works it way free after several hot and cool cycles.
Everything depends of socket quality.
@@lokz9632 Indeed, of which, as the buyer, we have little control over 😁
Great video thanks for uploading. Ive just bought this card and had nothing but issues with freezes but after watching you install the MMU library that's maybe where ive gone wrong will try again and see if it fixes the issue.
An interesting fact I discovered after visiting the Manufacturer's Website (after making this Video), is you need to add a piece of foam or cardboard on top of the X1 Crystal on the Amiga 600's Motherboard to prevent the A630's 68030's CPU pins from shorting against the metal body of the Crystal. See if this helps your instability issues, if not already in place.
@@amigaretro1985 I have the same issue as UK Retro Gamer and I used a piece of foam on the X1. I think the problem could be, that we got a model with older firmware. Because my "Chip Speed vs A600" in Sysinfo is always at 1.20 with installed MMU.
SysInfo 4.4 shows about the same on my setup. Older versions, such as 4.0 show a higher Chip Speed versus A600, I believe around 3 times faster. Realistically, I think the score of 1.2 is more accurate (if in your case you are using SysInfo 4.4), since it is an A600 your are comparing against, being the same 16-bit bus architecture.
@@amigaretro1985 Yeah, I use Sysinfo 4.4. @freeze: The freezing is probably due to an older firmware. The latter A630 were delivered with a new, very stable, firmware. The only possibility for an update would be the reflash with the Xilinx programmer. The developer told me that.
Can you re-flash the card or has the seller offered to do this for you?
New viewer/subscriber here 👍🏻 TH-cam algorithm brought me here 😉 Nice video 🎉 Couple of things. 1).. The A630 looks to be a nice card, although no FPU? Is this an option? 2)… When installing ThorsMMULib (Thomas Richter) that you should ideally run this in “expert mode”. This also gives you options with the CPU you want SetPatch to detect 👍🏻 Look forward to your next content and learning how to make 1MB ROMs. Cheers 🍻
Thanks for subscribing. 1) There is no FPU option, though the CPU is a full 68030 (not an EC model) so it does have the built-in MMU, thus why you can use the MMU Libs from Aminet. 2) Intermediate or expert is fine, normally I have not had issues in any installation mode, since the installer detects the correct CPU and installs the correct library to Libs:, but Expert Mode definitely gives you more control over the Setup process.
Nice video! What is that clock application you have on the Workbench?
Thanks. I am glad you liked the Video. The Clock Program I use is called DClock 1.6, it's available on Aminet. It uses very little system resources and runs on Kickstart/Workbench 2.04+, it also needs reqtools.library V38+. The requirements are mentioned in the included DOC file in the Aminet Archive.
DClock: aminet.net/package/util/time/DClock16
ReqTools Lib: aminet.net/package/util/libs/ReqToolsUsr
@@amigaretro1985 Thanks! Putting together a Workbench 3.1 Setup right now, this seems neat :)
It would be grate to have a expansion the same but with AGA chipset on it that would be a grate leap
The Manticore from Apollo Computers offers AGA and 16-bit Audio options as well as and fast FPGA CPU Core. I have once but have never goy around to installing it :)
Compatibility will vary across game titles...
Manticore for the A600: shoq.apollo-computer.com/product_info.php?products_id=4
Sorry for dumb question, but where did you get WB screen background and icons? I quite like them.
They are part of the Magic Workbench distribution. You can get a copy from Aminet. Search for "MagicWB21p.lha" at aminet.net
It's shareware and needs to be registered after 14-days. I think this is still the case after all these years.
Here is the Link to the SASG Magic Workbench website: www.sasg.com/mwb/index.html
The nice thing is you only need an 8 colour screen mode, though 16 colors are ideal. Helps save your precious chipram :)
@@amigaretro1985 Thank you.
Come close to my ACA1233n-55 on the ACA500Plus. You have a fast A600. The only plus i have 8MB/s. Run with WB 3.1 and BetterWB 4.3 on a 4GB CF card.
Thanks for watching my Video. The ACA1233n-55 is a nice card. I also have the ACA500Plus (the latest version). It does have nice CF Transfer speeds. The additional CF slot is nice as well. The A600s (and 1200s) onboard IDE interface is not the greatest but works well enough :)
Boot normal without CF? Can You can play classic games instant and floppy from KS1.3 without CF? I have glitch and KS 3.1 cant boot to start screen.
The system will boot to the Kickstart Start Screen if no CF is connected (Kickstart 3.1 or 3.2.2). Kickstart 1.3 works as well with the 1.3 ROM. Since Kickstart 1.3 does not have a scsi.device, the Insert Workbench Disk comes up pretty fast. since it isn't checking for an attached IDE device. My A600 boots floppy disks and games without issue.
Does your A600 boot fine with Kickstart 1.3?
@@amigaretro1985 With kick 1.3 and no cf Amiga boot normal but games start with graphical glitch or dosn't start (guru). Without A630 works fine.
@bzyq81 Make sure the 68000 on the A600's motherboard is clean. Using IPA (Rubbing Alcohol) and a Q-Tip on all 4 corners of the chip's pins will help. Make sure no fuzzies are left behind from the Q-Tip. Using a Micro-fiber cloth works well too. Also, make sure the 630's socket is clean and securely seated to the 68000 . To do this, place the accelerator 's socket on top the CPU and push uniformly down on the center of the topside of the 630's socket. It should snap into place in one go.
Why are you using grounding cable from accelerator to mainboard? Do you have grounding problems?
Hello, thanks for watching my Videos! The ground wire is for the Indivsion ECS MK-III VGA scandoubler from Individual Computers. Since VGA is an analogue signal, the ground wire is to help reduce interference in the Video Output. Though from experience, it is rarely needed.
@@amigaretro1985 oo ok, i own the Indivision AGA MK3, but supports both VGA and a fully digital output.
So do i need to attach ground wire too?
Im using digital output
@@Exitsing If it came with one, It wouldn't hurt. If it did not, I wouldn't worry about it too much.