The Interceptor also has access to the Lightning debuff through Detonating Strike which, when paired with Spark Dash, is an absolutely devastating build and, in my opinion, one of the best in the game.
Jaydum it’s not too early... he said with what we’ve played so far... Now masterworks, legendary, and who has them all will make the “strongest” builds clearly. I hope legendary pieces are RARE AF!!! But nah he made it clear when he said”what we’ve played so far”
Yes it is too early, because "with what we've played so far" is quite irrelevant when it comes to the full game. One simple example: he ignores the existence of a masterwork rocket (that has been widely shown on youtube by multiple creators already) for the Colossus, which heals him for 35% on hit.
@xbloodblade Not really. In many games, the gameplay of classes changes (i.e. unlocking additional abilities and perks as you level up). It is quite logical that the gameplay of a class would be different while leveling, than it would be in the endgame, when you actually have a proper arsenal of gear to choose from. Of course a class should not be pure trash while leveling, but endgame performance is quite certainly the most important, when it comes to rating different classes for strength.
Great video! Wanted to point something out though. Interceptor's ultimate CAN hit the weak points of the Tyrant Mine boss. My strategy was to throw Target Beacon on the boss before popping my ultimate then go straight up to him to jump and perform a slam attack with my melee. When you execute a melee slam attack Interceptor does a mid air spin on the way down which can hit the weak spots about 2 times before he hits the ground. BUT you can also cancel the slam before it hits the ground using another jump and repeat the process until you've burned your 3 jumps and have to touch ground again to refresh your jumps and continue. I found this technique to do a lot of DPS and was very effective.
Thanks, a lot of comments on these types of vids are just people disagreeing. It may be respectful disagreement, but it's not very considerate of the creator.
9:30 - you're not useless against a Swarm Tyrant boss with an Interceptor ultimate. You basically get the boss's aggro and can tank its damage because you're invincible for a much longer time than any of the other Javelin ultimates. (Ranger and Storm ults end the faster if you fire your stuff completely; Colossus ult gives you three uses like the Storm, but very short time to use them; Interceptor Ultimate can be used willy nilly for a set time, regardless of how many times you press the melee or fire button). The others can destroy adds to build their ultimate or keep doing pressure damage ("sustained DPS") on the boss, as they see fit, while Interceptors tank with their ultimate. If you're alone, you can use that ultimate to efficiently wreck the spaced out adds (the adds don't cluster together for long, when the Tyrant is out). Hell, if you're alone the adds would probably gang up on you anyway. I
Also most ppl dont know that with the Interceptor after you attack an enemy w your Ultimate you can go to another target because it will leave a wraith that keep attacking the target. Smarter to use this technique on an Enforcer for example, while you then move on to the shielded/unshielded targets. Still haven’t mastered exactly how this works but when ppl do this Ult will not feel underpowered
I'm not saying this video is wrong, because it's hard to rank classes and different people are good with different play styles, but don't sleep on the interceptor. I solo most missions on hard, and NEVER die. Once you learn the movement, with how to melee cancel in the air, you can practically fly without ever using your jets, and effectively get out of any situation. It's all about knowing your play style, and learning how to use your javelin properly. If you want something challenging, with a high skill ceiling and lots of interactivity, choose the interceptor.
Did you use the shown set up on you interceptor all the time? Because with this set yes you can only be on the last place. Try gas grenade + detonating strike there is your aoe ability ^^ and his ultimate is good for save reviving ^^ you don't need dmg all the time.
I believe Acid damage increases damage taken from other sources btw... and an efficacious Interceptor, especially one during ultimate, is an effective "tank" (aggro holder)... And also a good ganker (taking out, hampering/harassing or distracting key targets like turrets). So when you said that Interceptor doesn't bring enough to the table... I will show y'all how it's done ;)
I think you represented all of the Javelins fairly well, but it's clear that you didn't actually play a couple of them very much. The Ranger actually has access to all of the element types. It's something the devs have been listing as one of his strengths quite often. Also, the Ranger is possibly just as agile as Interceptor when you consider that his dodge cooldown is slightly faster than the Interceptor's. With Ranger, you can jump, dash, double-jump, dash. With interceptor, you'll be waiting on the dash cooldown for the second dash, however they do get a triple jump, after which you can do the second dash. To say that the Ranger doesn't accel at anything is just flat wrong. Also, the Interceptor does have access to three element debuffs, the one you missed being lighting. You also state that the Interceptor lacks AoE damage, but his combo provides quite a bit of AoE. We were all having a pretty easy time on Hard difficulty, but it's easy to imagine how this AoE DOT is going to do a lot of work when every mob isn't getting one-shot anymore. It's clear that you had the most fun with Storm, and that's a very popular choice, but you're really selling Ranger and Interceptor short. You're saying that they're underpowered and lack useful abilites, but it's pretty short-sighted to state this based on your obviously limited play time with them.
Toddv1 it’s not more agile than interceptor. Nowhere near. With interceptor you can jump, triple dash, double jump, and triple dash again before having to touch the ground again. As soon as you touch the ground you can repeat.
Bioware said thicc boy has the same run and fly speed as all the other javelins. His animations are just a but slower. But technically hes thr same speed as the rest
I disagree with the powerful single damage claims for the Storm. The damage of the Storm's skills are comparatively worse off than other Javelins apart from the ulti. The Storm deals better collective damage to crowds of mobs because of AoE but not better single target damage. Usually people compensate with the Devastator sniper rifle but that is getting nerfed according to the devs. The colossus and the interceptor deals far more DPS to single targets.
Pontus Lundgren Have you seen how elite mobs and armored fat bois just melts in seconds under the colossus flamethrower and electric coil combo, even on hard in the demo. The damage is just insane. Well you can go glacial spear for the Storm and sacrifice on AoE damage and collective damage, which defeats the purpose of having the Storm in the team in the first place. AoEs are the storms bread and butter to take advantage of the Storm’s unique combo ability which is to spread the prime effect to as wide a radius as possible to all nearby enemies. Plus as you progress to later difficulties where enemies are more likely to be bullet sponges, burst damage will be irrelevant, it’s the DPS that counts. Take note I mentioned DPS as well in my earlier post.
Draze interceptor? I was able able to shred most important targets like snipers and turrets with consistent dps, ofc not much AoE damage but I’m a fan of that.
@@s1gheart While im completely agree that storm should emphasizes on Combo and helps CC I disagree with burst dmg being irrelevant. Elemental burst dmg will be very very important in later part of the game, because ice and lightning deal more dmg to shield. It is also the same problem I experienced in the demo Hard Stronghold with public mm as there are very few Storms who specialize in taking down shield resulting in the team being overrun by mobs with shields (those Machine Gun scars). 1 Glacial Spear is able to take out 80-90% of the shield while Arc Burst can almost always takes the shield outright. There is currently no Ice-Lightning DPS skills in this game so shield will be the main thing Storms need to take care of for the team to deal damage or CC. ps.Ice-storm and Glacial spear combo is extremely effective against almost everything in the demo that is not armored with the exception of Turrets
You have completely missed the point of the Javelins roles. Just because the Interceptor isn't able to use their Ultimate on a boss doesn't mean they are supposed to use it on the boss. We are talking about a game that is based on coordination and roles. You failed to realize that maybe the Interceptor's ultimate should be used when a boss spawns a ton of adds, while the Storm saves his Ultimate on the boss when there are NO adds, because it does high damage. A colossus needs to kill adds in order to keep their health up in a boss fight. If the colossus is tanking a boss, i think an Interceptor using his ULT to completely waste adds near the Colossus would greatly help in managing/maintaining health for the Colossus. Maybe the Interceptors role isn't boss damage, maybe the Storms role isn't AOE/Single target damage, but to prime targets using Dual primer abilities? Maybe the Storms job in late game isnt to prime/detonate, but maintains primers on everything so the colossus/ranger/interceptor can detonate? Your comparison is seriously short sided. You solod a boss, instead of reviving your teammates. Yea, great job there.
I mean didn't you just confirm what I said about the interceptor? If he is subpar against big bosses, then he is worse than the other 3 who are good against bosses. And why would I rely on an interceptor, especially against the swarm wave, when the storm could insta clear an entire wave and then get back at destroying the boss.
Lets be hypothetical. You could have a group that doesn't have a storm. So what do you do if you have two Interceptors in group? Aw well your screwed because they cant do boss damage, so lets just not use Interceptors at all. You are failing to realize that each Javelin doesn't have a linear (specific) role. Javelins gain a bonus to charging up the ULT when they combo. If you waste an entire Storm ULT on adds, you just blew your chance, and your groups chance, to charge up your ULT faster. By rotating a Storms ULT to focus on the Boss, you can assist the Interceptor in priming targets when he goes ULT on the trash. Not all Storms have to setup their builds for Prime/Detonate. There will be instances when a Storm benefits the team by going Prime/Prime in his setup. In this case, he would not be very effective in trash clearing (besides using his ultimate) and that would be a waste of time when other Javelins can play the trash clearing role as the Storm primes targets. It doesn't always have to be STORM -> ULT TRASH CLEANER, COLOSSUS -> TANK, INTERCEPTOR -> BOSS DAMAGE. It could be, Storm Boss damage, Interceptor Trash cleaner, Colossus Trash cleaner or whatever people/groups decide on. Your entire video is comparing javelins in a linear perspective instead of being more open minded to the fact that, every single Javelin can play a DIFFERENT ROLE. This effectively means you cant compare how much better one Javelin is to the next, unless you compare each Javelin playing the Same Specific Role. Edit for grammer
@@PitViperJr why limit to a single role? my storm can clear trash without his super, while priming freeze constantly, having high weapon damage for bosses and yellow bars, one hitting shields and like the interceptor, can use my super to revive teammates too, so that's why interceptor is weaker than the others, he can do 1 or the other, but he cant do multiple stuff as good as the other javelins, he definitely does have potential, but bioware limited it by a lot, interceptor cant combo frequently, because if already have an aura in effect, you cant combo anything again until that aura fades away, and you cant have 2 auras at the same time, you cant even refresh the aura effect, you will always have to wait for the aura to go away to combo anything again and have the aura effect back on, so until they buff the interceptor in that matter, it will always lack where the other javelins dont.
I think it's more about play style than ranking. For myself, I found the Ranger best suited for me. Someone who doesn't mind switching roles from support to attack when needed.
I preferred the Storm, as well. But it definitely had some shortcomings. In the echo-quests with all the high-damage turrets, I was having issues getting out in the open on Hard without getting blasted out of the sky. Once you're on the ground, you're toast. After that, though, the 2nd half of the Tyrant Mine in the caverns was built for Storm. Hovering and destroying bugs is cake. Another Storm limitation I found is a bad balance against itself. In the demo there were a couple Freeplay quests that unlocked where there were 2 or more Dominion Storm enemies. When paying solo, it was difficult to manage multiple flying shields. You can't spread out the damage, because then the shields regenerate. But when you focus on one, the others are just doing the same to you. So it's near impossible to get one shield down while 2 are getting yours, unless you have good timing with your ultimate or high-level gear combos. But overall I agree with your list order. I'm just not sure the Storm is so epically badass above the others.
When flying with the storm, repeatedly dodge left and right. You'll be invincible. Enemies in the game REALLY struggle against moving targets and usually aim before unleashing on you. This is demonstrated with the laser sniper but its true for all enemies. Fly directly at the turret dodging left and right and land behind it. For components, focus on the shield, always runway when enemies lock on to you and always let your shields recover when they're below half. I survive the best with the Stom. It is sadly OP.
You can also use the default frost shards to freeze a turret permanently, easy to take down after that, even if the only damage you ever deal is frost shards you still take 0 damage doing it.
I totally agree with rankings here. I'll be shocked if this remains the same though, especially when we get our hands on end game item sets, masterwork and legendary gear. I suspect ironically, Interceptor could be #1!
If you noticed. The storms ult can be channeled for a long time. Allowing OTHER ULTIMATES to be used w it with the correct timing of course. Personally something I think high skill players will take advantage of this. The advantage being that the Ranger an Colossus combo effect buff damage whereas the Storms combo effect is only to spread the status effect. More useful to Storm-Ult ads than bosses unless combo’d w other suits in my opinion. Mastering this technique will be HUGE in endgame.
Dude, The Colossus IS my playstyle but I got tore up in the demo. I don't know where my HP Pool is cause I was downed faster than anything. HP was gone in just a few seconds and the shield gets popped faster than my HP. Maybe I was doing something wrong but wow I was surprised by how paper my Javelin was. I will keep at it though, I will be the Wall!
Others have mentioned that Interceptor does have access to 3 elemental primers, but I'll chime in to say that I think it spreads status effects second only to the Storm. Interceptor with ice or electric aura can lock down large groups of enemies very easily, if not quite as quickly as the Storm does. Single target elimination also nothing to sneeze at - bursting down turrets and snipers in the big engagements can be pretty critical to letting the team push forward effectively.
i fear that ppl playing the interceptor will be selfish and go on their own, and once team is down they get all hyped because they use ultimate to "save" the team. i think they all can be the best if used by the right ppl.
Interceptor is great at going after high priority targets. For example, taking out the turrets before they rain death on everyone. The problem comes when they don't communicate what they're doing. If they try to actually solo content. They die. They need to slip in behind waves that are being fought by the rest of the team. So they are taking on only the high priority target. Rather than the target AND mobs of trash. Teamwork was so important even on hard. It'll only be more important in grandmaster
I just thought of something. So because this is a team focused game, I think the boss encounters are designed to give every class to shine. That boss you were talking about does stagger and gets immobilized for a while. This is where his weak spots are in a perfect spot for that ultimate.
If the Interceptor player knows his role is possible helps the team a lot, fight primarily snipers, enemies with shield and armored enemies let the crown control for the storm, the boss for colossus and the ranger can help in any area.
Interceptor is number 4 because reasons. Forgets it has the highest single target dps in the game, can ult rez teammates and is the only one with a 30% debuff on enemy which travels on enemy death, making it basically cryoglaive->debuff-> melee everything to death as it stands there frozen. Rinse and repeat.
As a Colossus you must be an “Active Tank” meaning, you’re at your best by using Crowd Control and your shield when needed. For example most people I’ve seen will get into a group of enemies and pull out their shield while expecting their teammates to burn enemies down. They end up dying because the mobs burn thru the colossus shield pretty quickly, making the player feel like they aren’t tanky. What I learned during the second demo was more effective: I’d either fly or sprint thru a large group of enemies, knocking them all down (few seconds of them not attacking), then I’d either melee or lighting coil, followed by me TAUNTING THEM SO THE ENEMIES BACKS WERE FACING TOWARDS MY TEAM while deploying my shield again. It seems the the taunting forces them to stop attacking for a few seconds while they’d switch to me. After taking some hits or them being burned down some, I’d use my flamethrower/lighting coil/melee depending on the situation. The second option offers more downtime of them attacking you and the team, while doing more damage to them and using your shield to max effect :)
When playing the demo, my interceptor was always the last man standing in the group. Constantly getting the Executionaire medal after each completed stronghold. I may have also been called the medic of the team too, once all team mates are down, pop interceptor ulti and revieve everyone. I think this game all comes down to, what type of player you are to which Javelin that suits your playstyle the best. For me hands down Interceptor is AWESOME SOUCE!!
From my experience, colossus has the worst super, but the best detonating capability. Interceptor has the most ulitity and single target dps. Storm is ok for priming, and good for spreading effects. Poor damage though
The interceptor's Target Beacon can have 100% uptime with cooldown reductions from higher level gear. It's by far the most powerful support ability in the game. I'd agree that it's weaker damage on multiple targets (except for maybe ranger, depending on masterwork inscriptions), but it's I-Frames give it so much more survivability than any other javelin when used properly. When the raids (or whatever they're calling raids) come out, every raid will need one, maybe two.
Yeah, most people are basing it of pure DPS and capability to do damage, which is only half the story when it comes to combat. Thanks for spreading the message.
i played a lot of the interceptor and in oposition to most ytb video reviwing the interceptor u are right yes he is bad in AOE damage clearly but this weakpoint can be easly ofset by usig the devastator that can kill big group of enemy and since ur almost always using ur mele the ammo is not a problem and finaly u can chain ur mele atks or use ur ultimate wich is rly effective on huge group of trash ennemy and also very nice video
I think as long as ur team is a balanced team running each javelin with communication, each can compensate for the others weaknesses. Interceptor can help colossus with health and killing surrounding enemies, ranger can provide cover fire for storm while storm can aoe enemies that could overwhelm the ranger and so on
Please dont nerf the Storm...when I used the charged fireball skill it had 5 stacks and I could nearly throw huge fireball explosions indefinitely. Also the freezing explosion skill only took the 1 stack after the final explosion, so if you just used the 3/4 little ice bursts then stopped for a second, you could chain them together too.
Storm + colossus = utter carnage Me and my bro with these builds practically carried a team of randos through the stronghold on hard, both of us running priming and detonating abilities. Those elite turrets would literally go down in seconds lmao
Yep went with a party of colossus and storm. The one ranger that was with us simply stood afk as he didn't have the time to kill anything before we already melted them.
Interceptor for me was the best. I was able to go to the snipers and turrets and just slaughter them making the rest a breeze for my team. I also didn't bother trying to damage the tyrant boss with my ultimate but rather used it to get my team mates back up. I used dual devestator sniper rifles to do my damage at over 8k a shot.
Interceptor support skill is a debuff that spreads to other targets interceptor does really good burst as well. Also Acid aura which also debuff stout is really strong also interceptor auras you cant detonate yourself but your team can also the storm has the lowest combo modifier out of the four.
A nice video. Thanks. In my play experience I would reverse the Interceptor and the Storm. I had great difficulty getting the hover mechanic to work for the Storm and found him to be far too fragile for my taste. He did decent damage, but as you noted, was really bad when faced with shielded enemies. My interceptor, however, seemed far more survivable. Just my own experience, however. A note about your "weakness" for the Interceptor. Since they are very good at doing single-target damage (at least for most adds) they kill each one very quickly. With the mobility that the Interceptor brings, I found that you can very quickly take out common enemy mobs. My own observations is that the Interceptor is quite good at clearing out trash enemies, but can have difficulty with heavily armored ones.
I like to play as interceptor..but yeah for boss fight and titans...not very good. And that someone point...in grandmasters it will rally hard to go close fight.
one thing i would add for storm is while his bubble gets a buff when in the air this also makes it very hard if not impossable sometimes to take cover. I found the storm to be very tanky untill youre taking lots of different sorces of damage or if you're grounded for what ever reason. So like any true DPS monster youre great untill you pull agro then you're porked if you dont get out of there.
I will say from testing the rangers ultimate does more damage if you lock all of the missiles onto one target, I did notice when you was using the ranger you didn't lock on three to four missiles lowering your damage a fair amount.
@@edwardjanson9008 not really, if you are on a team of four. And each person specializes in one area. Everyone plays a roll. I think thats better than a team of four Rangers just doing whatever.
Storms NOT OP, Interceptor is though. Storm is a giant shoot me target in its "arial advantage" dont get me wrong storm is strong but i wouldnt say op and i feel colossus had better aoe dmg compared to storm. Inteptor literally beat EVERYTHING in the demo just by mashing triangle/y except like GIANT bosses and it has the best acid moves hands down. Ranger needs some love though
forgot to mentrion the diffrant combo effects the javlins have. ranger more dmg to comoed target, colossus dose a aoe explotion on combo, storm spreads the primed effect to nerby enemies and at last the interseptor gets a elemental aura dependning on what the enemy was primed with.
You say the colossus has a huge hp pool but I found in the demo he wasn’t tank like enough even using the shield regularly I was having to run away from the action. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like his health could use a bit of a buff. Great video though dude!
The devs have officially agreed on their forums that the colossus is currently the only one looking at getting major buffs before live given that he's objectively the weakest javeline. They haven't gone into detail on what those large buffs will be, but I'm hopeful he's at least playable when it goes live.
Storm seems to be the best at the surface, however with masterworks and components the three other classes quickly outclass it in most activities. However because of this I expect a large majority of player will pick storm first and there will be a severe lack of other classes.
What I've learned about Rogue type classes is they feel weak compared to other classes until you hit end game. Then when you get good gear you deal massive damage.
I found the interceptor pretty fun to play. I agree with some of your points, but I think he's the most involved class. You have to focus on dodging and getting off combos. With the storm I feel like you just hover there and wait for your cool-downs.
Interceptor has the best ultimate in game. I can guarantee a revive of a whole squad using it. Also, it’s great against trash mobs and bosses. It’s only limitation is enemies that get stuck in the air. But that’s what snipers are for.
@@galaxybrainkid1222 When playing in a group, I agree. But the Ranger seemed to have better survivability against baddies when I was playing solo. (I could be missing something strategy wise with the Interceptor though)
I would go (for multiplayer): 1. Ranger 2. Interceptor 3. Storm 4. Colossus Ranger is good because it can access all elements and has very high single target and decent aoe damage/priming Interceptor because his ult is for utility clearing out adds or reviving teammates for free and interceptor can build for aoe w/detonating strike or single target damage or for range or up close Storm doesn't have best aoe or single target damage but has a decent middle ground of both less single target but more aoe than ranger Colossus is too frail with no shields and a frail physical shield as well as no dodge while he has the best aoe he dies more easily even storm lasts longer because it's not in the middle of a brawl usually
I'm not sure why you said interceptor can't clear mobs. His melee attack can clear trash mobs very easily. Also we haven't seen other bosses yet and for all we know there could be a boss fight which requires high Mobility in moving around and hitting, something which the interceptor would be very good at.
Especially if you venom spray to prime mobs, followed by melee that detonates. Powerful mob clearing abilities. IDK what the hell this guy is talking about. He has the Ranger and Interceptor all wrong as far as what they can really do.
The TANK (Colossus) isnt about disengaging. Thats why you have a big ass shield that regenerates pretty quickly. The problem with the Colossus is there are not many people know how to play it very well. I personally think the Colossus is a BEAST! That will be my main and that is all I played after i finished with the Ranger. Its not weak... the people complaining it is weak are weak. 🤣🤣🤣 Plus they added a shield bash which is a huge addition to its capabilities. Colossus is all about crowd/boss control. Not flying around looking pretty
This was way to early to do a review, a review you is after the game is released my dude, the ranger also is the only one which has an electric melee, decent enough against bosses? Dude ranger is a boss killer, wtf are you talking about
Corrections; Ranger has access to Acid attacks, it is the Storm that does not. Interceptor Has 3 Elements you forgot Detonating Strike ironically it is a Electric Primer :P List seems legit right now I'd say as it stands for co-op play list is right for solo play interceptor goes to 2
Try this again when the full game comes out when you actually have good gear and get a lot more time playing all the Javelins. There's no way you had enough time especially considering you said Ranger has no acid attacks so that shows how little knowledge you really have.
Interceptor is AMAZING with others on high difficulties because you can just survive longer than your allies the pop your ult and revive your entire team. He is also good for taking out priority targets with his high single target damage and even has detonating strike for crowds which as a very powerful explosion effect. Storm is just kinda weak imo. Colossus has better aoe and interceptor/ranger has better single target damage. All the javelins can prime so idk I think it's maybe third with colossus being fourth due to not being nearly bulky enough and the shield being kinda frail. Just my opinion though
So gameplay style really matters when ranking. I actually would put interceptor above Colossus because of how quick I can jump from enemy to enemy. I could take out hoards very quick because of the agility as well as the proper priming and detonating combos. But that's just my opinion. Good video
An Interceptor with acid grenades, and a Storm with his... um, stormy stuff go together like a horse and carriage. The cooldown on the nade is ridiculously fast. I just run around draining shields and priming everything while Mr. Storm does his combo zaps while watching porn in his helmet up in the sky.
Interceptor at 4?... You do know if you have the advantage at single targeting enemies that you have the ability to assassinate higher priority targets right? Making it easier for you whole team to move forward, ontop of having one of the better Support abilities in the game and his Ultimate being a party saver id defitinitely would put him over the Ranger and Colossus.
Ranger is the highest burst dps javelin in gamer his melee is a primer so he will always be able to combo even bringing 2 detonators his passive gives bonus dmg on top of the bonus dmg delt when activating a combo,
I don't think you can rank the interceptor as worst below the ranger. In terms of teamwork, the interceptor excels at playing fetch objectives, and his support abilities are strong. In terms of combat capabilities, he is great at killing trash mobs, and so long as you keep him moving (read: don't hump mini-bosses before you clear the trash mobs) his survivability is arguably the best in the game. In terms of his ultimate, its not great for killing bosses, granted, but it can really allow you to penetrate a fortified enemy position and start clearing out the trash mobs.
Interceptor takes the most skill out of the 4, and you putting it last says a lot about you as a player. Storm requires the least, as all you do is hover above the chaos & rain down abilities. You can be good without much skill with any other javelin but interceptor takes too much skill for the average player.
Why did he rank colossus as number 2 and not number 4? Even the devs have noted that he's going to be getting multiple buffs by live to make him playable, the others (aside from the interceptor getting the quality of life buff to attack mid air) aren't getting changed at all. It's debatable whether it's the colossus or interceptor that's worse(though the devs seem to think it's the colossus), then it should be ranger in 2nd and storm in 1st by a mile given both the sheer effectiveness it has, increased durability compared to others, better damage, a certain build has no cooldown on their primer/detonators..
Great video but as you stated play style definitely matters. I prefer the Storm as my main and it was my 1st choice. But I found I survived much more and was kicking ass as an Interceptor. The Ranger was boring once I used the others except for Colossus. The Colossus was my least favorite because I hated being slow and was so used to flying about as a Storm. However it's ability to get right in the mix of things was fun. So ultimately, I'd say none of the javelons are better than the other outside of the consideration of playstyle.
I’m honestly not a fan of the interceptor but that’s more because of my personal play style. I just couldn’t get a good feel for it in the demo. I’m still torn between the other 3 for my main though; it’s really hard to pick as the they all match styles I’m use to playing
Ehhh wrong about interceptor. Use freeze and then the heavy Slam attack and it’s unstoppable you can spam Both attacks right after each other while pressing melee and dash. It’s unstoppable seriously. Main thing as soon as ur about to die you hit the ultimate and it fills your health and shield up while you kill everything with the aura combo. It’s just way to OP
I thought Colossus would be shit, but my God, I have perfect synergy rolls with my masterwork lightning coil and masterwork flamethrower and a grenade launcher that restores 25% armor on double kills, I am the Alpha and Omega. I drop into a crowd and as quickly as I dropped, they're gone. I have the element auto rifle that buffs up elemental damage and a +67% buff to combo damage from just one gear and a component...I thought the Storm was going to be my go-to javelin, but it just doesn't hold a candle to a beefed up Colossus, plus the masterwork railshot holds two charges making it a must have when Titan farming
I main a ranger an while I admit the other javelins are fun it's the versatility I like about the ranger pull my buddies out of sticky situations alot with it
I feel that people don't utilize the Colossus melee enough. If used correctly it can put enemies down very fast and can even be more useful (not dps) than Interceptor melee. His melee can stun, detonate, AND hits in a 360 degree sphere. This means you can knock shielded enemies out of the air and stun them at the same time. I played on hard difficulty and had no issues. Grandmaster will be a different story, but you don't need to worry cuz Colossus has many solid long and mid range abilities that you can use from cover (which Interceptor seems to be lacking a bit). I know Interceptor is strong, but I'm just worried about the affectiveness of melee in high difficulties. Seems like ranged abilities are much more preferred. However on hard difdiculty and maybe grandmaster 1 I think melee can be used a bunch. This is why I feel lightning coil is pretty redundant and useless. Why waste an ability when you can juat set off your flamethrower combos with a devastating melee? Yes I know you can sield with lighning coil, but you can cycle your shields between melee destinations too. This also leaves an ability slot open for a ranged ability just in case you have a little lower health or you need to detomate a combo you see off in the distance. Abilities like the high explosive mortar (the big one, can't remember the name) is a great candidate. It is also good at stripping shields from a distance as well. Basically what I do in combat is I hover/fly in the air until I target a group of enemies. (Always keep your shield out if you are moving). After finding a group of enemies I fly above them and activate my melee or let myself fall. Either way you will do a 360 degree explosion that stuns all enemies in area if not flat out killing them. You can then finish of the remaining enemies (not shielded enemies) with the flamethrower or sprinting shield attack. From there I take my shield out to survey the situation. Most of the time there will be a shielded enemy nearby. At that time I will usually hit him with the mortar ability to strip the sheilds a bit and then I charge forward with my shield out. When I reach the shielded enemy I jump in the air and use the ground pound melee. The reason I jump is because if not then you need to put your shield away first. This will stun the shielded enemy and knock them out of the air. At that point if they have no shield you fit them with flamethrower until they are primed and then detonate combo with melee. Most of the time this will kill them and any weak enemies around them. No need for lightning coil. If I am not in the air and on the ground i charge into an enemy group with my sprinting shield attack to knock all of them over. I push all the way through the group then turn around and either flamethrower to burn them while they are om the ground or do a jumping ground pound to stun them again or if there is a shielded enemy. Always activate flamethrower combos with melee if possible so your motrar remains available. However, you can use mortar to detonate flamethrower if you need to or need to play it safe. With this loadout boss battles should feel allot more solid becuase you have a ranged ability/ultimate to use on cool down and a flamethrower melee to protect you if you get swarmed by small enemies. Choice of weapons is personal choice, but I prefer weapons that can maximize boss damage from a distance or strip shields. I use the auto cannon that gets more accurate the longer you hold the trigger and either a sniper or a marksman rifle. I like the idea of having a shotgun, but have never found it to be necessary. Melee is my shotgun. There are many other similar loadouts you can use with colossus, but this os my favorite so far. You could also use that tesla coil looking ability to prime enemies for melee combo instead of flamethrower. Then use railgun in the other ability slot. If you need to play safer then you can substitute your priming ability with firewall mortar and use another detonating ability in the other slot. Colossus can really be a great class if used correctly (same as all of the Javelins). If they buff colossus like people want then it will be unstoppable lol.
3:16 Mediocre damage to bosses, false. The video shows damage split between a few mobs at the best. Ranger's ultimate works well if only targeted at the boss. 3:20 Ranger has no "crazy builds" and will get boring? Have you seen the frag grenade with 700% ult charge? There are people reporting using more than 10 ultimates in a 10+ minute mission.
Disagree just due to the fact that their are all insane if played right, I shredded everything on the interceptor during the demo, like someone else said once you master the dodges and the speed of interceptor it's insane , but my final verdict is they are all number 1 if played right !
I’ve been enjoying your videos recently, but there was quite a bit of misinformation in this video. Have you looked into other gameplay from other creators? There are many things that you left out or didn’t mention. Like the storms shield not being buffed when he is in the air but rather it’s reduced when he’s not in the air. There were only a few abilities that you mentioned for each class and of these, there are much better ones that weren’t mentioned. Also cooldowns are no longer than 14 seconds according to the demo
As a storm main let me say ur wrong about something important I have so much speed I can spam my ice shard infinity and have the ability tk stun lock all Titans until someome uses an ultimate. And the I have soloed much content in strongholds and my ultimate has been the main tk thank if u make a poor build then u will perform poorly
The storm was my first choice, haven’t thought of switching. Side note I notice you called the interceptor an he, I personally think it’s shape like an female....?
The Interceptor also has access to the Lightning debuff through Detonating Strike which, when paired with Spark Dash, is an absolutely devastating build and, in my opinion, one of the best in the game.
Shush!!! Don't let them know our intercepts secrets!!
Jumping tempest strike one of the best damage and can aoe mobs easy
@@shawnrebs8487 must i silence you too?!?
I was abt to comment that
@oshian lol fine i agree with this video interceptor is the weakest
Isn't too early make a conclusion since masterworks loot can change a build drastically?
Jaydum it’s not too early... he said with what we’ve played so far... Now masterworks, legendary, and who has them all will make the “strongest” builds clearly. I hope legendary pieces are RARE AF!!! But nah he made it clear when he said”what we’ve played so far”
@@threejitz2566 Oh okay I must have missed that
Yes it is too early, because "with what we've played so far" is quite irrelevant when it comes to the full game.
One simple example: he ignores the existence of a masterwork rocket (that has been widely shown on youtube by multiple creators already) for the Colossus, which heals him for 35% on hit.
@xbloodblade Not really. In many games, the gameplay of classes changes (i.e. unlocking additional abilities and perks as you level up).
It is quite logical that the gameplay of a class would be different while leveling, than it would be in the endgame, when you actually have a proper arsenal of gear to choose from.
Of course a class should not be pure trash while leveling, but endgame performance is quite certainly the most important, when it comes to rating different classes for strength.
He should have written DEMO(S) in the title. This is just missleading (and trying to get views imo) @@threejitz2566
Great video! Wanted to point something out though. Interceptor's ultimate CAN hit the weak points of the Tyrant Mine boss.
My strategy was to throw Target Beacon on the boss before popping my ultimate then go straight up to him to jump and perform a slam attack with my melee. When you execute a melee slam attack Interceptor does a mid air spin on the way down which can hit the weak spots about 2 times before he hits the ground. BUT you can also cancel the slam before it hits the ground using another jump and repeat the process until you've burned your 3 jumps and have to touch ground again to refresh your jumps and continue.
I found this technique to do a lot of DPS and was very effective.
Remember freelancers, this is his opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s fact. So relax. Good vid
*amen* brother
Thanks, a lot of comments on these types of vids are just people disagreeing. It may be respectful disagreement, but it's not very considerate of the creator.
9:30 - you're not useless against a Swarm Tyrant boss with an Interceptor ultimate. You basically get the boss's aggro and can tank its damage because you're invincible for a much longer time than any of the other Javelin ultimates. (Ranger and Storm ults end the faster if you fire your stuff completely; Colossus ult gives you three uses like the Storm, but very short time to use them; Interceptor Ultimate can be used willy nilly for a set time, regardless of how many times you press the melee or fire button).
The others can destroy adds to build their ultimate or keep doing pressure damage ("sustained DPS") on the boss, as they see fit, while Interceptors tank with their ultimate.
If you're alone, you can use that ultimate to efficiently wreck the spaced out adds (the adds don't cluster together for long, when the Tyrant is out). Hell, if you're alone the adds would probably gang up on you anyway.
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No Acid on Ranger? and whats with the Acid darts then?
Also most ppl dont know that with the Interceptor after you attack an enemy w your Ultimate you can go to another target because it will leave a wraith that keep attacking the target. Smarter to use this technique on an Enforcer for example, while you then move on to the shielded/unshielded targets. Still haven’t mastered exactly how this works but when ppl do this Ult will not feel underpowered
I'm not saying this video is wrong, because it's hard to rank classes and different people are good with different play styles, but don't sleep on the interceptor. I solo most missions on hard, and NEVER die. Once you learn the movement, with how to melee cancel in the air, you can practically fly without ever using your jets, and effectively get out of any situation.
It's all about knowing your play style, and learning how to use your javelin properly. If you want something challenging, with a high skill ceiling and lots of interactivity, choose the interceptor.
Did you use the shown set up on you interceptor all the time? Because with this set yes you can only be on the last place. Try gas grenade + detonating strike there is your aoe ability ^^ and his ultimate is good for save reviving ^^ you don't need dmg all the time.
The ranger actually does have an acid attack - venom darts 👍🏾
I believe Acid damage increases damage taken from other sources btw... and an efficacious Interceptor, especially one during ultimate, is an effective "tank" (aggro holder)... And also a good ganker (taking out, hampering/harassing or distracting key targets like turrets).
So when you said that Interceptor doesn't bring enough to the table... I will show y'all how it's done ;)
I think you represented all of the Javelins fairly well, but it's clear that you didn't actually play a couple of them very much. The Ranger actually has access to all of the element types. It's something the devs have been listing as one of his strengths quite often. Also, the Ranger is possibly just as agile as Interceptor when you consider that his dodge cooldown is slightly faster than the Interceptor's. With Ranger, you can jump, dash, double-jump, dash. With interceptor, you'll be waiting on the dash cooldown for the second dash, however they do get a triple jump, after which you can do the second dash. To say that the Ranger doesn't accel at anything is just flat wrong. Also, the Interceptor does have access to three element debuffs, the one you missed being lighting. You also state that the Interceptor lacks AoE damage, but his combo provides quite a bit of AoE. We were all having a pretty easy time on Hard difficulty, but it's easy to imagine how this AoE DOT is going to do a lot of work when every mob isn't getting one-shot anymore.
It's clear that you had the most fun with Storm, and that's a very popular choice, but you're really selling Ranger and Interceptor short. You're saying that they're underpowered and lack useful abilites, but it's pretty short-sighted to state this based on your obviously limited play time with them.
Toddv1 it’s not more agile than interceptor. Nowhere near. With interceptor you can jump, triple dash, double jump, and triple dash again before having to touch the ground again. As soon as you touch the ground you can repeat.
Can you explain the input for the triple dash? I'm aware it exists, but I could never get it to work. @@djayyglo
Toddv1 on PS4 I just held down circle, did all three dashes. Interceptor is way more agile than ranger tho
@@tahaanzar123 You held down circle and pressed what else?
Toddv1 nothing. I held down circle, and all three dashes chained for me. Keep holding it down until all three have been changed
Bioware said thicc boy has the same run and fly speed as all the other javelins. His animations are just a but slower. But technically hes thr same speed as the rest
I disagree with the powerful single damage claims for the Storm. The damage of the Storm's skills are comparatively worse off than other Javelins apart from the ulti. The Storm deals better collective damage to crowds of mobs because of AoE but not better single target damage. Usually people compensate with the Devastator sniper rifle but that is getting nerfed according to the devs. The colossus and the interceptor deals far more DPS to single targets.
Colossus? Singletarget? Riddled me confused.
And also, glacial spear (Storm) is probably the highest damage move in the game.
Pontus Lundgren Have you seen how elite mobs and armored fat bois just melts in seconds under the colossus flamethrower and electric coil combo, even on hard in the demo. The damage is just insane. Well you can go glacial spear for the Storm and sacrifice on AoE damage and collective damage, which defeats the purpose of having the Storm in the team in the first place. AoEs are the storms bread and butter to take advantage of the Storm’s unique combo ability which is to spread the prime effect to as wide a radius as possible to all nearby enemies. Plus as you progress to later difficulties where enemies are more likely to be bullet sponges, burst damage will be irrelevant, it’s the DPS that counts. Take note I mentioned DPS as well in my earlier post.
If you guys want highest single target damage I could tear turrets apart with the rangers pulse blast.
Draze interceptor? I was able able to shred most important targets like snipers and turrets with consistent dps, ofc not much AoE damage but I’m a fan of that.
@@s1gheart While im completely agree that storm should emphasizes on Combo and helps CC
I disagree with burst dmg being irrelevant. Elemental burst dmg will be very very important in later part of the game, because ice and lightning deal more dmg to shield. It is also the same problem I experienced in the demo Hard Stronghold with public mm as there are very few Storms who specialize in taking down shield resulting in the team being overrun by mobs with shields (those Machine Gun scars). 1 Glacial Spear is able to take out 80-90% of the shield while Arc Burst can almost always takes the shield outright.
There is currently no Ice-Lightning DPS skills in this game so shield will be the main thing Storms need to take care of for the team to deal damage or CC.
ps.Ice-storm and Glacial spear combo is extremely effective against almost everything in the demo that is not armored with the exception of Turrets
You have completely missed the point of the Javelins roles. Just because the Interceptor isn't able to use their Ultimate on a boss doesn't mean they are supposed to use it on the boss. We are talking about a game that is based on coordination and roles. You failed to realize that maybe the Interceptor's ultimate should be used when a boss spawns a ton of adds, while the Storm saves his Ultimate on the boss when there are NO adds, because it does high damage. A colossus needs to kill adds in order to keep their health up in a boss fight. If the colossus is tanking a boss, i think an Interceptor using his ULT to completely waste adds near the Colossus would greatly help in managing/maintaining health for the Colossus.
Maybe the Interceptors role isn't boss damage, maybe the Storms role isn't AOE/Single target damage, but to prime targets using Dual primer abilities? Maybe the Storms job in late game isnt to prime/detonate, but maintains primers on everything so the colossus/ranger/interceptor can detonate? Your comparison is seriously short sided. You solod a boss, instead of reviving your teammates. Yea, great job there.
I mean didn't you just confirm what I said about the interceptor? If he is subpar against big bosses, then he is worse than the other 3 who are good against bosses. And why would I rely on an interceptor, especially against the swarm wave, when the storm could insta clear an entire wave and then get back at destroying the boss.
Lets be hypothetical.
You could have a group that doesn't have a storm. So what do you do if you have two Interceptors in group? Aw well your screwed because they cant do boss damage, so lets just not use Interceptors at all. You are failing to realize that each Javelin doesn't have a linear (specific) role. Javelins gain a bonus to charging up the ULT when they combo. If you waste an entire Storm ULT on adds, you just blew your chance, and your groups chance, to charge up your ULT faster. By rotating a Storms ULT to focus on the Boss, you can assist the Interceptor in priming targets when he goes ULT on the trash. Not all Storms have to setup their builds for Prime/Detonate. There will be instances when a Storm benefits the team by going Prime/Prime in his setup. In this case, he would not be very effective in trash clearing (besides using his ultimate) and that would be a waste of time when other Javelins can play the trash clearing role as the Storm primes targets.
It doesn't always have to be STORM -> ULT TRASH CLEANER, COLOSSUS -> TANK, INTERCEPTOR -> BOSS DAMAGE. It could be, Storm Boss damage, Interceptor Trash cleaner, Colossus Trash cleaner or whatever people/groups decide on.
Your entire video is comparing javelins in a linear perspective instead of being more open minded to the fact that, every single Javelin can play a DIFFERENT ROLE. This effectively means you cant compare how much better one Javelin is to the next, unless you compare each Javelin playing the Same Specific Role.
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@@PitViperJr ah, thank you. I was going to leave a similar comment 😂
@@PitViperJr why limit to a single role? my storm can clear trash without his super, while priming freeze constantly, having high weapon damage for bosses and yellow bars, one hitting shields and like the interceptor, can use my super to revive teammates too, so that's why interceptor is weaker than the others, he can do 1 or the other, but he cant do multiple stuff as good as the other javelins, he definitely does have potential, but bioware limited it by a lot, interceptor cant combo frequently, because if already have an aura in effect, you cant combo anything again until that aura fades away, and you cant have 2 auras at the same time, you cant even refresh the aura effect, you will always have to wait for the aura to go away to combo anything again and have the aura effect back on, so until they buff the interceptor in that matter, it will always lack where the other javelins dont.
I think it's more about play style than ranking. For myself, I found the Ranger best suited for me. Someone who doesn't mind switching roles from support to attack when needed.
I agree that they all seem viable and I am having fun with the Ranger, as well.
I preferred the Storm, as well. But it definitely had some shortcomings. In the echo-quests with all the high-damage turrets, I was having issues getting out in the open on Hard without getting blasted out of the sky. Once you're on the ground, you're toast.
After that, though, the 2nd half of the Tyrant Mine in the caverns was built for Storm. Hovering and destroying bugs is cake.
Another Storm limitation I found is a bad balance against itself. In the demo there were a couple Freeplay quests that unlocked where there were 2 or more Dominion Storm enemies. When paying solo, it was difficult to manage multiple flying shields. You can't spread out the damage, because then the shields regenerate. But when you focus on one, the others are just doing the same to you. So it's near impossible to get one shield down while 2 are getting yours, unless you have good timing with your ultimate or high-level gear combos.
But overall I agree with your list order. I'm just not sure the Storm is so epically badass above the others.
When flying with the storm, repeatedly dodge left and right. You'll be invincible. Enemies in the game REALLY struggle against moving targets and usually aim before unleashing on you. This is demonstrated with the laser sniper but its true for all enemies.
Fly directly at the turret dodging left and right and land behind it. For components, focus on the shield, always runway when enemies lock on to you and always let your shields recover when they're below half. I survive the best with the Stom. It is sadly OP.
You can also use the default frost shards to freeze a turret permanently, easy to take down after that, even if the only damage you ever deal is frost shards you still take 0 damage doing it.
I totally agree with rankings here. I'll be shocked if this remains the same though, especially when we get our hands on end game item sets, masterwork and legendary gear. I suspect ironically, Interceptor could be #1!
Agreed with list and ranking as of right now. Will have revisit it at later levels to see how that changes if at all.
ranger has acid darts
Yeah kinda weird that acid darts was forgotten
You can repair a down teammate with the interceptors ultimate
If you noticed. The storms ult can be channeled for a long time. Allowing OTHER ULTIMATES to be used w it with the correct timing of course. Personally something I think high skill players will take advantage of this. The advantage being that the Ranger an Colossus combo effect buff damage whereas the Storms combo effect is only to spread the status effect. More useful to Storm-Ult ads than bosses unless combo’d w other suits in my opinion. Mastering this technique will be HUGE in endgame.
Dude, The Colossus IS my playstyle but I got tore up in the demo. I don't know where my HP Pool is cause I was downed faster than anything. HP was gone in just a few seconds and the shield gets popped faster than my HP. Maybe I was doing something wrong but wow I was surprised by how paper my Javelin was. I will keep at it though, I will be the Wall!
Others have mentioned that Interceptor does have access to 3 elemental primers, but I'll chime in to say that I think it spreads status effects second only to the Storm. Interceptor with ice or electric aura can lock down large groups of enemies very easily, if not quite as quickly as the Storm does. Single target elimination also nothing to sneeze at - bursting down turrets and snipers in the big engagements can be pretty critical to letting the team push forward effectively.
devs said they will add the ability for interceptor to melee while hovering so it will be significantly more useful at launch.
i fear that ppl playing the interceptor will be selfish and go on their own, and once team is down they get all hyped because they use ultimate to "save" the team. i think they all can be the best if used by the right ppl.
Interceptor is great at going after high priority targets. For example, taking out the turrets before they rain death on everyone. The problem comes when they don't communicate what they're doing. If they try to actually solo content. They die. They need to slip in behind waves that are being fought by the rest of the team. So they are taking on only the high priority target. Rather than the target AND mobs of trash. Teamwork was so important even on hard. It'll only be more important in grandmaster
I just thought of something. So because this is a team focused game, I think the boss encounters are designed to give every class to shine. That boss you were talking about does stagger and gets immobilized for a while. This is where his weak spots are in a perfect spot for that ultimate.
nice vid khraze keep em coming :)
If the Interceptor player knows his role is possible helps the team a lot, fight primarily snipers, enemies with shield and armored enemies let the crown control for the storm, the boss for colossus and the ranger can help in any area.
yep, that's exactly what I did, I player storm first that way (going for snipers and turrets) and found that interceptor does that more effectively
Interceptor is number 4 because reasons. Forgets it has the highest single target dps in the game, can ult rez teammates and is the only one with a 30% debuff on enemy which travels on enemy death, making it basically cryoglaive->debuff-> melee everything to death as it stands there frozen. Rinse and repeat.
As a Colossus you must be an “Active Tank” meaning, you’re at your best by using Crowd Control and your shield when needed. For example most people I’ve seen will get into a group of enemies and pull out their shield while expecting their teammates to burn enemies down. They end up dying because the mobs burn thru the colossus shield pretty quickly, making the player feel like they aren’t tanky.
What I learned during the second demo was more effective: I’d either fly or sprint thru a large group of enemies, knocking them all down (few seconds of them not attacking), then I’d either melee or lighting coil, followed by me TAUNTING THEM SO THE ENEMIES BACKS WERE FACING TOWARDS MY TEAM while deploying my shield again. It seems the the taunting forces them to stop attacking for a few seconds while they’d switch to me. After taking some hits or them being burned down some, I’d use my flamethrower/lighting coil/melee depending on the situation.
The second option offers more downtime of them attacking you and the team, while doing more damage to them and using your shield to max effect :)
Thanks for this video Khraze! You explain it without bias unlike some of the other videos i've seen!
Maybe not biased, but at the same time, not very well informed.
When playing the demo, my interceptor was always the last man standing in the group. Constantly getting the Executionaire medal after each completed stronghold. I may have also been called the medic of the team too, once all team mates are down, pop interceptor ulti and revieve everyone. I think this game all comes down to, what type of player you are to which Javelin that suits your playstyle the best. For me hands down Interceptor is AWESOME SOUCE!!
From my experience, colossus has the worst super, but the best detonating capability. Interceptor has the most ulitity and single target dps. Storm is ok for priming, and good for spreading effects. Poor damage though
The interceptor's Target Beacon can have 100% uptime with cooldown reductions from higher level gear. It's by far the most powerful support ability in the game. I'd agree that it's weaker damage on multiple targets (except for maybe ranger, depending on masterwork inscriptions), but it's I-Frames give it so much more survivability than any other javelin when used properly. When the raids (or whatever they're calling raids) come out, every raid will need one, maybe two.
Like the video bro, keep bringing us what we need
I'd imagine each one can be just as good as eachother if you use them right
Yeah, most people are basing it of pure DPS and capability to do damage, which is only half the story when it comes to combat. Thanks for spreading the message.
i played a lot of the interceptor and in oposition to most ytb video reviwing the interceptor u are right yes he is bad in AOE damage clearly but this weakpoint can be easly ofset by usig the devastator that can kill big group of enemy and since ur almost always using ur mele the ammo is not a problem and finaly u can chain ur mele atks or use ur ultimate wich is rly effective on huge group of trash ennemy and also very nice video
I think as long as ur team is a balanced team running each javelin with communication, each can compensate for the others weaknesses. Interceptor can help colossus with health and killing surrounding enemies, ranger can provide cover fire for storm while storm can aoe enemies that could overwhelm the ranger and so on
Please dont nerf the Storm...when I used the charged fireball skill it had 5 stacks and I could nearly throw huge fireball explosions indefinitely. Also the freezing explosion skill only took the 1 stack after the final explosion, so if you just used the 3/4 little ice bursts then stopped for a second, you could chain them together too.
Storm + colossus = utter carnage
Me and my bro with these builds practically carried a team of randos through the stronghold on hard, both of us running priming and detonating abilities. Those elite turrets would literally go down in seconds lmao
Yep went with a party of colossus and storm. The one ranger that was with us simply stood afk as he didn't have the time to kill anything before we already melted them.
Interceptor for me was the best. I was able to go to the snipers and turrets and just slaughter them making the rest a breeze for my team. I also didn't bother trying to damage the tyrant boss with my ultimate but rather used it to get my team mates back up. I used dual devestator sniper rifles to do my damage at over 8k a shot.
Interceptor support skill is a debuff that spreads to other targets interceptor does really good burst as well. Also Acid aura which also debuff stout is really strong also interceptor auras you cant detonate yourself but your team can also the storm has the lowest combo modifier out of the four.
A nice video. Thanks.
In my play experience I would reverse the Interceptor and the Storm. I had great difficulty getting the hover mechanic to work for the Storm and found him to be far too fragile for my taste. He did decent damage, but as you noted, was really bad when faced with shielded enemies. My interceptor, however, seemed far more survivable. Just my own experience, however.
A note about your "weakness" for the Interceptor. Since they are very good at doing single-target damage (at least for most adds) they kill each one very quickly. With the mobility that the Interceptor brings, I found that you can very quickly take out common enemy mobs. My own observations is that the Interceptor is quite good at clearing out trash enemies, but can have difficulty with heavily armored ones.
I like to play as interceptor..but yeah for boss fight and titans...not very good. And that someone point...in grandmasters it will rally hard to go close fight.
one thing i would add for storm is while his bubble gets a buff when in the air this also makes it very hard if not impossable sometimes to take cover. I found the storm to be very tanky untill youre taking lots of different sorces of damage or if you're grounded for what ever reason. So like any true DPS monster youre great untill you pull agro then you're porked if you dont get out of there.
Glacial spear is like on a 4 second cool down it comes back very quickly, lightning strike is like 9 seconds
RANGER LEADS THE WAY
Storm with a sniper rifle is pretty sweet.
I will say from testing the rangers ultimate does more damage if you lock all of the missiles onto one target, I did notice when you was using the ranger you didn't lock on three to four missiles lowering your damage a fair amount.
I agree, but with interceptor, u can use ur ultimate to heal downed allies if ur the last up, i think that that can be very useful
The ranger is a jack of all trades, master of none.
But better than a master of one.
@@edwardjanson9008 not really, if you are on a team of four. And each person specializes in one area. Everyone plays a roll. I think thats better than a team of four Rangers just doing whatever.
Storms NOT OP, Interceptor is though. Storm is a giant shoot me target in its "arial advantage" dont get me wrong storm is strong but i wouldnt say op and i feel colossus had better aoe dmg compared to storm. Inteptor literally beat EVERYTHING in the demo just by mashing triangle/y except like GIANT bosses and it has the best acid moves hands down. Ranger needs some love though
forgot to mentrion the diffrant combo effects the javlins have. ranger more dmg to comoed target, colossus dose a aoe explotion on combo, storm spreads the primed effect to nerby enemies and at last the interseptor gets a elemental aura dependning on what the enemy was primed with.
Current information says that we choose our javelin at each level where they give us a choice. So you do not have to start with the Ranger.
You say the colossus has a huge hp pool but I found in the demo he wasn’t tank like enough even using the shield regularly I was having to run away from the action. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like his health could use a bit of a buff. Great video though dude!
He has much more than the rest, but that still does not mean he can stay in the crossfire for too long.
The devs have officially agreed on their forums that the colossus is currently the only one looking at getting major buffs before live given that he's objectively the weakest javeline. They haven't gone into detail on what those large buffs will be, but I'm hopeful he's at least playable when it goes live.
Storm seems to be the best at the surface, however with masterworks and components the three other classes quickly outclass it in most activities. However because of this I expect a large majority of player will pick storm first and there will be a severe lack of other classes.
Venom darts? Are we just forgetting that one?
What I've learned about Rogue type classes is they feel weak compared to other classes until you hit end game. Then when you get good gear you deal massive damage.
I found the interceptor pretty fun to play. I agree with some of your points, but I think he's the most involved class. You have to focus on dodging and getting off combos. With the storm I feel like you just hover there and wait for your cool-downs.
That being said from a power standpoint I think your ratings were pretty accurate.
Interceptor has the best ultimate in game. I can guarantee a revive of a whole squad using it.
Also, it’s great against trash mobs and bosses. It’s only limitation is enemies that get stuck in the air.
But that’s what snipers are for.
Based on my experience, I put
1. Storm
2. Ranger
3. Interceptor
4. Colossus
I would put int above ranger for its priming capacity with venom bomb alone paired with elite enemy takedown capacity
@@galaxybrainkid1222 When playing in a group, I agree. But the Ranger seemed to have better survivability against baddies when I was playing solo. (I could be missing something strategy wise with the Interceptor though)
The devs agree with you it seems according to their forum posts.
Verily noice
I would go (for multiplayer):
1. Ranger
2. Interceptor
3. Storm
4. Colossus
Ranger is good because it can access all elements and has very high single target and decent aoe damage/priming
Interceptor because his ult is for utility clearing out adds or reviving teammates for free and interceptor can build for aoe w/detonating strike or single target damage or for range or up close
Storm doesn't have best aoe or single target damage but has a decent middle ground of both less single target but more aoe than ranger
Colossus is too frail with no shields and a frail physical shield as well as no dodge while he has the best aoe he dies more easily even storm lasts longer because it's not in the middle of a brawl usually
I'm not sure why you said interceptor can't clear mobs. His melee attack can clear trash mobs very easily. Also we haven't seen other bosses yet and for all we know there could be a boss fight which requires high Mobility in moving around and hitting, something which the interceptor would be very good at.
Especially if you venom spray to prime mobs, followed by melee that detonates. Powerful mob clearing abilities. IDK what the hell this guy is talking about. He has the Ranger and Interceptor all wrong as far as what they can really do.
ND 84 detonating strike as well tons of AoE damage especially if you kill the mobs within the time frame
The TANK (Colossus) isnt about disengaging. Thats why you have a big ass shield that regenerates pretty quickly. The problem with the Colossus is there are not many people know how to play it very well. I personally think the Colossus is a BEAST! That will be my main and that is all I played after i finished with the Ranger. Its not weak... the people complaining it is weak are weak. 🤣🤣🤣
Plus they added a shield bash which is a huge addition to its capabilities. Colossus is all about crowd/boss control. Not flying around looking pretty
This was way to early to do a review, a review you is after the game is released my dude, the ranger also is the only one which has an electric melee, decent enough against bosses? Dude ranger is a boss killer, wtf are you talking about
The Interceptor will be able to fly during its Ultimate in the full release of the game... so those elevated weaknesses will no longer be an issue.
if that's true, OMG
This is like the review of classes in WOW before you hit max level and start raiding.
Corrections; Ranger has access to Acid attacks, it is the Storm that does not. Interceptor Has 3 Elements you forgot Detonating Strike ironically it is a Electric Primer :P List seems legit right now I'd say as it stands for co-op play list is right for solo play interceptor goes to 2
The storm does at end game. The fire storm masterwork causes poison damage if you land 3 successive attacks on the same enemy.
Thats cool everyone storm at release!
Try this again when the full game comes out when you actually have good gear and get a lot more time playing all the Javelins. There's no way you had enough time especially considering you said Ranger has no acid attacks so that shows how little knowledge you really have.
Interceptor is AMAZING with others on high difficulties because you can just survive longer than your allies the pop your ult and revive your entire team. He is also good for taking out priority targets with his high single target damage and even has detonating strike for crowds which as a very powerful explosion effect. Storm is just kinda weak imo. Colossus has better aoe and interceptor/ranger has better single target damage. All the javelins can prime so idk I think it's maybe third with colossus being fourth due to not being nearly bulky enough and the shield being kinda frail. Just my opinion though
So gameplay style really matters when ranking. I actually would put interceptor above Colossus because of how quick I can jump from enemy to enemy. I could take out hoards very quick because of the agility as well as the proper priming and detonating combos. But that's just my opinion. Good video
An Interceptor with acid grenades, and a Storm with his... um, stormy stuff go together like a horse and carriage. The cooldown on the nade is ridiculously fast. I just run around draining shields and priming everything while Mr. Storm does his combo zaps while watching porn in his helmet up in the sky.
Interceptor at 4?... You do know if you have the advantage at single targeting enemies that you have the ability to assassinate higher priority targets right? Making it easier for you whole team to move forward, ontop of having one of the better Support abilities in the game and his Ultimate being a party saver id defitinitely would put him over the Ranger and Colossus.
Ranger is the highest burst dps javelin in gamer his melee is a primer so he will always be able to combo even bringing 2 detonators his passive gives bonus dmg on top of the bonus dmg delt when activating a combo,
I don't think you can rank the interceptor as worst below the ranger. In terms of teamwork, the interceptor excels at playing fetch objectives, and his support abilities are strong. In terms of combat capabilities, he is great at killing trash mobs, and so long as you keep him moving (read: don't hump mini-bosses before you clear the trash mobs) his survivability is arguably the best in the game. In terms of his ultimate, its not great for killing bosses, granted, but it can really allow you to penetrate a fortified enemy position and start clearing out the trash mobs.
Interceptor takes the most skill out of the 4, and you putting it last says a lot about you as a player. Storm requires the least, as all you do is hover above the chaos & rain down abilities. You can be good without much skill with any other javelin but interceptor takes too much skill for the average player.
The interceptor isn't even last
SummerBaconFTW he clearly says at 12:37 “at number 4 I’m going to have to put the interceptor”
@@djayyglo Oh sorry didn't even hear that part why tf did he put the 4th one in the. 3rd part of the video?
SummerBaconFTW hell if I know
My favorite video! COLOSSUS FTW 💯
Why did he rank colossus as number 2 and not number 4? Even the devs have noted that he's going to be getting multiple buffs by live to make him playable, the others (aside from the interceptor getting the quality of life buff to attack mid air) aren't getting changed at all.
It's debatable whether it's the colossus or interceptor that's worse(though the devs seem to think it's the colossus), then it should be ranger in 2nd and storm in 1st by a mile given both the sheer effectiveness it has, increased durability compared to others, better damage, a certain build has no cooldown on their primer/detonators..
The Storm is my favorite..! But all four are amazing.. I think there’s no true best because it depends how you play...
Interceptor wraith strike and Blistering Mines are a great drive by build c:
Great video but as you stated play style definitely matters. I prefer the Storm as my main and it was my 1st choice. But I found I survived much more and was kicking ass as an Interceptor. The Ranger was boring once I used the others except for Colossus. The Colossus was my least favorite because I hated being slow and was so used to flying about as a Storm. However it's ability to get right in the mix of things was fun. So ultimately, I'd say none of the javelons are better than the other outside of the consideration of playstyle.
I’m honestly not a fan of the interceptor but that’s more because of my personal play style. I just couldn’t get a good feel for it in the demo. I’m still torn between the other 3 for my main though; it’s really hard to pick as the they all match styles I’m use to playing
Interceptor is underpowered. Colossus is incredibly OP!
3rd Interceptor
2nd Ranger/Storm
1st Colossus
Ehhh wrong about interceptor. Use freeze and then the heavy Slam attack and it’s unstoppable you can spam Both attacks right after each other while pressing melee and dash. It’s unstoppable seriously. Main thing as soon as ur about to die you hit the ultimate and it fills your health and shield up while you kill everything with the aura combo. It’s just way to OP
I thought Colossus would be shit, but my God, I have perfect synergy rolls with my masterwork lightning coil and masterwork flamethrower and a grenade launcher that restores 25% armor on double kills, I am the Alpha and Omega. I drop into a crowd and as quickly as I dropped, they're gone. I have the element auto rifle that buffs up elemental damage and a +67% buff to combo damage from just one gear and a component...I thought the Storm was going to be my go-to javelin, but it just doesn't hold a candle to a beefed up Colossus, plus the masterwork railshot holds two charges making it a must have when Titan farming
Greta video but I think this game did a great job of balancing these classes each one has it's own strengths and weaknesses
The Interceptor has Electrical Primers and Detonators. NOT just Ice and Acid.
I main a ranger an while I admit the other javelins are fun it's the versatility I like about the ranger pull my buddies out of sticky situations alot with it
I feel that people don't utilize the Colossus melee enough. If used correctly it can put enemies down very fast and can even be more useful (not dps) than Interceptor melee. His melee can stun, detonate, AND hits in a 360 degree sphere. This means you can knock shielded enemies out of the air and stun them at the same time. I played on hard difficulty and had no issues. Grandmaster will be a different story, but you don't need to worry cuz Colossus has many solid long and mid range abilities that you can use from cover (which Interceptor seems to be lacking a bit). I know Interceptor is strong, but I'm just worried about the affectiveness of melee in high difficulties. Seems like ranged abilities are much more preferred.
However on hard difdiculty and maybe grandmaster 1 I think melee can be used a bunch. This is why I feel lightning coil is pretty redundant and useless. Why waste an ability when you can juat set off your flamethrower combos with a devastating melee? Yes I know you can sield with lighning coil, but you can cycle your shields between melee destinations too. This also leaves an ability slot open for a ranged ability just in case you have a little lower health or you need to detomate a combo you see off in the distance. Abilities like the high explosive mortar (the big one, can't remember the name) is a great candidate. It is also good at stripping shields from a distance as well.
Basically what I do in combat is I hover/fly in the air until I target a group of enemies. (Always keep your shield out if you are moving). After finding a group of enemies I fly above them and activate my melee or let myself fall. Either way you will do a 360 degree explosion that stuns all enemies in area if not flat out killing them. You can then finish of the remaining enemies (not shielded enemies) with the flamethrower or sprinting shield attack. From there I take my shield out to survey the situation. Most of the time there will be a shielded enemy nearby. At that time I will usually hit him with the mortar ability to strip the sheilds a bit and then I charge forward with my shield out. When I reach the shielded enemy I jump in the air and use the ground pound melee. The reason I jump is because if not then you need to put your shield away first. This will stun the shielded enemy and knock them out of the air. At that point if they have no shield you fit them with flamethrower until they are primed and then detonate combo with melee. Most of the time this will kill them and any weak enemies around them. No need for lightning coil.
If I am not in the air and on the ground i charge into an enemy group with my sprinting shield attack to knock all of them over. I push all the way through the group then turn around and either flamethrower to burn them while they are om the ground or do a jumping ground pound to stun them again or if there is a shielded enemy. Always activate flamethrower combos with melee if possible so your motrar remains available. However, you can use mortar to detonate flamethrower if you need to or need to play it safe.
With this loadout boss battles should feel allot more solid becuase you have a ranged ability/ultimate to use on cool down and a flamethrower melee to protect you if you get swarmed by small enemies. Choice of weapons is personal choice, but I prefer weapons that can maximize boss damage from a distance or strip shields. I use the auto cannon that gets more accurate the longer you hold the trigger and either a sniper or a marksman rifle. I like the idea of having a shotgun, but have never found it to be necessary. Melee is my shotgun.
There are many other similar loadouts you can use with colossus, but this os my favorite so far. You could also use that tesla coil looking ability to prime enemies for melee combo instead of flamethrower. Then use railgun in the other ability slot. If you need to play safer then you can substitute your priming ability with firewall mortar and use another detonating ability in the other slot. Colossus can really be a great class if used correctly (same as all of the Javelins). If they buff colossus like people want then it will be unstoppable lol.
I can see end game now 4 storms...
3:16 Mediocre damage to bosses, false. The video shows damage split between a few mobs at the best. Ranger's ultimate works well if only targeted at the boss.
3:20 Ranger has no "crazy builds" and will get boring? Have you seen the frag grenade with 700% ult charge? There are people reporting using more than 10 ultimates in a 10+ minute mission.
Hmmm... i agree but were would you put colossus without his coil/flame build
Ashen Phoenix in the scrap yard
Without that build he s last for sure
My main will be ranger. Played all 4 but just like ranger best.
me too i played all 3 javelins i always go back to ranger
Disagree just due to the fact that their are all insane if played right, I shredded everything on the interceptor during the demo, like someone else said once you master the dodges and the speed of interceptor it's insane , but my final verdict is they are all number 1 if played right !
I’ve been enjoying your videos recently, but there was quite a bit of misinformation in this video. Have you looked into other gameplay from other creators? There are many things that you left out or didn’t mention. Like the storms shield not being buffed when he is in the air but rather it’s reduced when he’s not in the air. There were only a few abilities that you mentioned for each class and of these, there are much better ones that weren’t mentioned. Also cooldowns are no longer than 14 seconds according to the demo
As a storm main let me say ur wrong about something important I have so much speed I can spam my ice shard infinity and have the ability tk stun lock all Titans until someome uses an ultimate. And the I have soloed much content in strongholds and my ultimate has been the main tk thank if u make a poor build then u will perform poorly
The storm was my first choice, haven’t thought of switching. Side note I notice you called the interceptor an he, I personally think it’s shape like an female....?
Colossus main for sure, can't beat being an unkillable monster with plenty of damage dealing potential
they really arent that unkillable.. and for a tank, they are rather squishy. Ranger FTW
Interceptor using venom bomb + tempest strike. Boom. AOE
the ranger's super is actually pretty good against bosses it does more damage then my storm and they both are the same power level
I agree with the list for the beta but not sure about the ranger and thicc boi on release