Otalia 9/04/04 #3

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  • @debdavidson6892
    @debdavidson6892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love how Philip was always supportive of Olivia and Natalia

  • @mcartemis1
    @mcartemis1 15 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am so glad Olivia finally came around back to Natalia's arms... they are so wonderful together!

  • @TheRoaFam
    @TheRoaFam 15 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Olivia's smile at 6:44 ..not even the joker can get a smile that big. Oh the joy! By Olivia's body language I thought we were going to get a kiss, but hey Im not mad, they're back together.
    If one thing I've learned from watching this two, is to have patience. Sometimes, we lesbians rush into relationship without even building the foundation to have one. And from watching Nat and Liv's story, has made me appreciate more what a good relationship should be really base on.
    Love their storyline!

  • @JRowan_RiffRaff
    @JRowan_RiffRaff 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cannot believe I am crying. Those last few seconds just completely blew me away.

  • @ingu1
    @ingu1 15 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love:
    1) Olivia's huge ass smile at 6:44 which wrinkles her nose. So cute
    2) Nat's giddy little smile behind her hand at 6:41 - yay, my plan worked, she's here!
    3) The lack of all periphal vision in that scene - O's belated "hi" to Frank was like "oh, didn't see you there"
    4) Frank's withdrawal so our ladies are alone (if only he had done that in Feb!)
    5) GA & O talk, they work well 2gether.
    Hate:
    1) Franks hair
    2) Everything Rafe said.
    3) Blake's talk with Nat. Not your place, B.

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Day four of grinning and swooning:-D
    Love how JL grabs CC's arm at the end...Sigh..These two are SO adorable!

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 101%.
    This is so beautiful, and it's just so sad at the same time.

  • @straybarney
    @straybarney 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW!!! I go away a few days and come back to some serious kick-ass Otalia scenes!!! and over 20 minutes each day? Wow!
    Not only were all the performances powerful, the ladies were HOT!
    Doris,Blake the bed whoa!
    And when Liv walked in that hospital room like the Sexy Calvary, I applauded!
    I tell you bumping foreheads is normally painful, but from Liv it's foreplay!

  • @itswhatithink24
    @itswhatithink24 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    OooHhh....FINALLY..... FINALLY........FINALLY !!!!!!! THANK YOU LORD FOR ENDING MY MISERY. I FEEL RELIEVE AT LAST. THIS IS ALL I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SINCE THIS MORNING( can't concentrate on my work ) AND NOW THAT I FINALLY SAW TODAY'S EPISODE I COULD FINALLY THROW ALL MY WORRIES BEHIND. HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN.

    * REUNITED AND IT FEELS SOOOOO GOOOOOOOD !!!!!!!!! Soooooo REALLY GOOD!

  • @exmouthgal
    @exmouthgal 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last!!! SO cute at the end, loved both of them smile! Just cant get over what is all the fuss about with the shows producers, its just a kiss!!! (well not just a kiss as its cc & jl, but u know what I mean!) They need to grow up!
    xx

    • @laminage
      @laminage หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know right. Ellen Wheeler is a Mormon and I wonder if she didn't allow it. Have you seen the Love Story of Suki & Eve on Eastenders. That's great as well. UK Soap Fans loved Otalia.

  • @literalmetaphor
    @literalmetaphor 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh my God this episode was an emotional roller coaster.
    I feel bad for Doris and Ashlee and Phillip, but YAY OTALIA!!!

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With that kiss, the ep would have been simply perfect, but Nat and Liv grinning at each other like teenagers:I think my heart has butterfly wings now.
    The lack of that kiss, made the ep miss its resolution, somehow.But all of it was simply beautiful.They can censor kisses and intimacies, but they couldn't censor Doris' speech.And Ashlee's.And that was simply phenomenal,and SUCH a big and heartfelt thing to put out there.
    And they couldn't censor Phillip's words.Or JL's and CC's eyes and smiles.

  • @laraalem7978
    @laraalem7978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow i m that desperate that i watched 187 clips hoping there would be an actual kiss😂🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @cincygurl
    @cincygurl 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, the way these 2 lovely ladies light up at the end of this scene just melts my heart...What an amazing episode all around. LOVE the Doris and Ashley scenes today. Maybe Ashely, on some kind of subconscious level, smacked some sense into Rafe today also.
    PS, Frank ur standing a lil too close to Natalia for my comfort.
    PSS, Doris looked yummy in that outfit.
    And lastly, something about Olivia's eyes in natural light are just mesmerizing!

  • @debdavidson6892
    @debdavidson6892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved when Olivia walked in Natalia ' s face when she said you're hete. I started crying right then.

  • @TALAfan11
    @TALAfan11 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yesss!! I hope Rafe is listening to Ashlee very closely. He should want his mother to be happy.

  • @phlodnarS
    @phlodnarS 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think my heart stopped beating when Olivia came into the room.

  • @therealluna
    @therealluna 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doris and Ashley rocked the show today. Wow.

  • @mydm2
    @mydm2 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know how but alas I'm at that place that likes the love between Nat&Liv as it is projected through their looks, hugs & touches however understated or insinuated because they are so restrained by CBS, GL, P&G, writers -whoever --whatever. Im still loving them together & reconciled. I have to forget the injustice or irrationality of lack of intimacy in favor of celebrating Otalia. I am looking forward to the next shows. I like to think the worst part of waiting is behind us.

  • @laminage
    @laminage 14 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You know what would have been sweeter after Natalia said: "You're Here". Olivia could have said: "I had to be, we're going to have a baby remember?"

  • @Briezzy96
    @Briezzy96 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG..that's just awesome!
    I am so going to steal that line from you. Thank You! I just love it.
    Life is good...even if it is a headbutt.

  • @sjg500
    @sjg500 15 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please tell me I am not alone here. I feel like an addict desperately seraching for her next fix. I've been watching old otalia clips since 10 am this morning, hoping the two would grace us with their presence again today ..... but instead I am left in disappointment. I hate to think that the end is so near. What will we do than?? Sure there's Venice, but nothing will ever hold a candle to otalia. (sigh)

  • @thozeyez
    @thozeyez 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both reactions from Rafe and Ashlee very realistic, well written and well acted.

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lines:
    Ashlle:"She's been so angry at me.Not because she didn't like me, but because she didn't like herself."
    This episode also gets extra stars for the mention of the word Lesbian(multiple times) and homophobic.
    I am very glad that Ashlee explained that to Rafe.Cause he could be it, but not look it up in a dictionary, obviously.

  • @marlenefreimanis
    @marlenefreimanis 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am crying such HUGE happy tears right now ;u;

  • @193017
    @193017 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK! Is someone can answer my question, how many times we will see Otalia next week, a lot of people are saying that there is going to be just 2 shows because of the US OPEN and someone from the GL said that next week will be bigger than last week, how can it be bigger if they are on just one day and is'nt that the week when Otalia tell Emma about there situation (relationship) and the baby's name ??????????????? I am very confuse

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow.
    This was pure win.
    Buzz Alan.Didn't see that coming.Small kiss onto the head.Incredible.
    Frank being all in love and hopeful one minute and wordlessly clearing the field the next.Nice work, Frank D.!
    The actress playing Ashlee usually doesn't come across as that strong, but today, she delivered.
    Orlagh:No Words!Wow.Incredible.And they went there.Wow.
    Ash Rafe:Ash said everything I wanted her to say.
    At the end,I FELT them pull towards each other to kiss.That's what censorship looks like.

  • @549621jon
    @549621jon 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    there are three eps next week and i believe they are in two of them.

  • @musicaldramaqueen
    @musicaldramaqueen 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like a butterfly right now I'm so happy. It's like when you have butterflies in your stomach because there is just something so wonderful and grand and unbelievable, but in my case, I am SO happy that I AM the butterfly!
    Pssst...and I love Phillip

  • @thozeyez
    @thozeyez 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doris (OC) and Ashley knocked it out of the park today!!

  • @snefnarnar
    @snefnarnar 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know the name of the song at the end?

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Day 3 of thudding over the last 30 seconds.
    Can't help smiling whenever I watch this!

  • @bogguss1981
    @bogguss1981 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the song at the end...anyone know the name/artist???

  • @tukikagami
    @tukikagami 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The out take is at the very end there.
    "Your here!"
    "I had to be, they paid me till the end of the month...." *winks*
    hehe But really I am happy they decided to have her be there.

  • @janet4luv
    @janet4luv 15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i luv the ending of this epi (minus frank). nat was brimming with happiness. nat seem like she wanted to leap off that table and tackle her lady love. and like many, i held my breath for a kiss. ah well, i got a new screen saver/desktop picture.

  • @nizolierocks
    @nizolierocks 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did Liv say when she walked into the docs room with NAt????

  • @laminage
    @laminage ปีที่แล้ว

    On Tik Tok there's a little girl who is of greek background who is an amazing dancer. She could have been Francesca in a Fantasy Scene.

  • @phlodnarS
    @phlodnarS 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    or perhaps I stopped breathing. not sure just to damn excited about what happened.

  • @laminage
    @laminage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did any of you see the UK Soap Opera Emmerdale (first known as Emmerdale Farm in 1972). Charity Dingle has Three Kids Debbie (An Adult), Noah a Teenager and Moses Who is about Two Years Old who has a Girlfirend named Vanessa a Vet who has a Son named Johnny. They are growing up together and they think of themselves as the other person's brother.

  • @193017
    @193017 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in Québec we have the show at 10:00 in the morning, sometime I will prefer seeing it just at night, It fuck all my day till the next episode.

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @cindia1977
    @cindia1977 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg they're back together yayyyyyy yyyyy :) when is that french kiss happening between liv and nat ? i just cant wait any longer

  • @littlefurnace
    @littlefurnace 15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OK, i just had a weird thought. I know they should've had a kiss at SOME point, but i don't think it should've been there. A first kiss would've been new and in a way awkward. While the forehead sex is frustrating, i find it a lot more intimate somehow, as if they are so much further on in the relationship than needing the kiss. idk, the thought just came to me...

  • @afrodeutsch27
    @afrodeutsch27 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the headbutt at the end...lol

  • @njfp1
    @njfp1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just read a comment on YT that said that they kiss next week. Don't know if it's true. I think they said they saw the clip on the CBS website.

  • @ingu1
    @ingu1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    according to the spoilers I've read there is a scene coming up with the two of them walking hand in hand on the beach. Could there be a wedding?! *gasp*. Not bloody likely, I'm a-thinking.

  • @ElLoca69
    @ElLoca69 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    lmaooo took the words out my mouth

  • @martinezamores
    @martinezamores 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I know what you could be getting at cscgirl13. You have a point, there are other Gay/storyline charcter's CBS has let its audience see kiss. However, I'm not sure if it's a CC, JL thing. Unless that's not what you are refering to. From what I understand, CC and JL are going to give their audeince a wet one after the firstt 30 seconds of the web series "Venice" starring CC and JL. To top it off CC, she is playing the lead who is a lesbian. Not sure if it's the actors decision on this one

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm raising my hand for Liv's part! Well, I'll probably just faint when JL smiles at close proximity..he he..But then, she'll have to resusciate me, so all is good.

  • @carolm007
    @carolm007 15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sjg500- You're right about Otalia fans out numbering the homophobes...they're certainly not part of the group watching this particular video over 20k times! The sponsors or CBS should worry about pissing us off.
    Anyway, I think I'll rewatch the episode where Olivia tells Natalia she's a freaking superhero and watch Nat stand on her power stool while conducting her first staff meeting. Or maybe the park scene where Olivia does her bench slide and tells Nat to "pony up for the picnic", or...

  • @luvcats4ever1
    @luvcats4ever1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sounds SO romantic, shay! I'll take it!

  • @sweettkorn
    @sweettkorn 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Ashley has amazing hair!

  • @orlandobabe
    @orlandobabe 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OH HAIL MARY!!!!! Thank you GOD!!!!! They are back together, thank you!!!!

  • @Mizkel
    @Mizkel 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG Olivia in the park with phillip.. that 'pout' she did.. I think I dropped DED!!

  • @laminage
    @laminage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Catilyn Van Zant reminds me so much of Claire Morris from The UK Soap Opera Eastenders. They arrive in Albert Square on June 15th 2017 and in 2018 she realizes she's Gay. Now she has to deal with A Young Lady Tiffany Butcher playing with her emotions while also dating her Half Brother Keegan (Same Mother/Different) Father.

  • @bosyeux2
    @bosyeux2 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    actually the channel originates in canada. and it would seem the viewership is rather international. so it's best not to be a tool in any language... people might notice.

  • @cofuggle
    @cofuggle 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mmmmm.....a Plato reference, a time machine? Alriiiight, I get it!
    BTW, Dr. Rick Bauer (whispers) " work on the delivery..."
    YAY! Guras and thank you.

  • @musicaldramaqueen
    @musicaldramaqueen 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gosh, these two and their allergy to kissing. I can see it now: Guiding Light is magically renewed, Otalia gets a full on love scene and the two of them still manage to do it all without ever actually kissing.

  • @mnena89
    @mnena89 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    song playing at end anyone?

  • @laminage
    @laminage 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that Alan & Phillip must feel like "Two Bits" knowing that Rafe joined The Army and Alan was a Draft Dodger.

  • @sonlddp
    @sonlddp 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    so sweet just so sweet

  • @laminage
    @laminage 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frank also could have said: "For a brief time we all thought Marina was Alan-Michael Spaulding's Child" so for me this baby is truly the beginning because I know for sure that she's mine.

  • @meldecite
    @meldecite 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALLY thank you god.

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi peeps!I've just read "old news" on a JL fansite.Seems like the writers were instructed late april to write beyond the CBS cancel date, because the show was supposed to be picked up by lifetime.That would explain a lot of the choppy writing over the summer if they bailed last minute.

  • @mecloptera
    @mecloptera 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my smile hurts

  • @Seska80
    @Seska80 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay, I LOVED the ending of this ep and am v happy that Otalia are back 2gether. But they better pick up in the next ep where they left off. I mean, if that is it 4 their reunition, then it'd be pretty ridiculous. Even friends would say more and hug. Besides the missing kiss of course!! But, I still have hope 4 next week. Somewhere..."sigh"

  • @ElLoca69
    @ElLoca69 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! FINALLY!!!
    THERE IS NO MORE TIME
    you are soo right olivia yes yes yes!!!
    HAPPY if you cant tell
    now all we need is a kiss and it looked like they were gonna

  • @literalmetaphor
    @literalmetaphor 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    me too! I love that Kool-Aid smile :D
    OH YEAAAAAHHHH

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL;what about a game of twister?
    They could be intertwined then.

  • @Everyday_Laudi
    @Everyday_Laudi 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMFG would Rafe take his own advice?

  • @cofuggle
    @cofuggle 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Que? Que pasa?

  • @66andreadler
    @66andreadler 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOLLLLL just watch this adorabel schouteden´s at 0:24 ...like a child that do not get his/her icecream sunday and tries tu change the parent´s opinion SOOOO SWEEEEEEEEEEEETTT :)

  • @laminage
    @laminage 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phillip could have said: "Olivia please don't throw away the best thing that happened to you, she's been the one that's shown you what a real relationship is really all about, she's more of a "Spouse" than Alan, Josh, Bill, or even I was." Also, was it me but did you see any chemistry between Phillip & Christina when they were at The Library.

  • @thozeyez
    @thozeyez 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not cool..."This" is not the USA. "This" is Otaliafan channel and we're from all over the world. Go to BPD and join a team

  • @roccodrew1013
    @roccodrew1013 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    please in spanish

  • @amcx3
    @amcx3 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:05 Would have been the PERFECT MOMENT for Olivia to kiss Natalia on the forehead. Hell she was leaning right into it. Hey! it's not her lips CBS they could've at least allowed that... but as long as they are finally together I guess that will be enough for me =]

  • @Briezzy96
    @Briezzy96 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    My girl and I both have thumb rings. Neither of us thought it was a "gay" thing. We just thought it was a "cool" thing.

  • @glawi06
    @glawi06 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know now there will never be a kiss. They have the perfect opportunity to show the kiss in that last scene. What a pity. Such a good s/l.

  • @ingu1
    @ingu1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    the link is tweeterwall(dot)mallplace(dot)com/tw/continental/ms-twitter-north-america. Replace the (dot) with actual dots - if I put the real URL in TH-cam will remove this post. Sometime the link will take you straight to the Ms Twitter North America page, sometimes to Mr Twitter Africa page (don't ask me why!). If you get Mr Twitter Africa, just look for Ms Twitter North America on the list of competitions on the right hand side of the page (its roughly in the middle).

  • @angeltx82
    @angeltx82 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally olivia =) Although I am a little bummed about the usual Otalia head rub instead of a kiss

  • @AblatedCrayon
    @AblatedCrayon 15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "This is all her, you can't make it about you."
    Rafe, you absolute hypocrite. I cannot believe your gall. Ugh!!

  • @lindaewart5691
    @lindaewart5691 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We should take into consideration that Natalia had nothing about her sexuality from him. All her life she considered herself a straight woman if she ever thought about it at all. She had no idea that she could possibly be bisexual. It never once crossed her mind. If she'd ever even heard of sexual fluidity it was just a passing concept that meant nothing to her. As for Doris well she could have handled it better. And saved both herself and Ashley a lot of grief over the years. But that she finally came clean means a lot. Now Ashley just has to deal with the shock add Rafe has to figure out that being gay is not the end of the world for Ashley's mother or his. Has a matter of fact it freeze them both to live their real lives.

  • @miekhead
    @miekhead 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh dont worry guys....there was a kiss there....camera just stopped rolling too soon...liv...tilt your head, yup, lil to the left....aaaaaahhhhhh there we are!

  • @Othellolover
    @Othellolover 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG IT FINALLY HAPPENED!

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whut? No Otalia preview today?
    *scampers of grumbling*

  • @amidola
    @amidola 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am grateful for the use of the word "homophobe" at all!

  • @ingu1
    @ingu1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those of you who voted for CC in Twitter's Ms USA comp, she's moved on to the semi final for Ms North America (although those lazy gits at Twitter still haven't added her to their Wall of Fame for USA). Anyway, she's currently first with 8 days to go. Link is
    tweeterwall(dot)mallplace(dot)com/tw/continental/ms-twitter-north-america if you wanna go vote.

  • @sjg500
    @sjg500 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only we were so lucky (sigh)

  • @favauntie
    @favauntie 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMAO brainlab11, too funny

  • @afrodeutsch27
    @afrodeutsch27 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was exactly what I was thinking...there are many ways to convey intimaticy...they don't have to havethem make out...just let them kiss on the cheek a little bit...lol

  • @mspiteri1979
    @mspiteri1979 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    He didn't mean for the baby with Natalia, he meant for his other daughter.....

  • @bosyeux2
    @bosyeux2 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's the u.s. open... it's ALWAYS tennis on labour day.

  • @sjg500
    @sjg500 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha I too am still watching otalia clips late into the night, as it is approx. 12:14am where I am. I totally agree with all you have said. I mean what exactly are the writers or CBS afraid of now that GL is on it's way out. Shouldn't they throw caution to the wind, go out with a bang, and leave otalia fans everywhere satisified? I think so. It's not like dwindling ratings are an issue anymore. Who really cares if they piss a few people off. surely otalia fans out - number any homophobes!

  • @albertagirl
    @albertagirl 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    today's show was amazing with lots of our girls in differnet story lines.
    but... f... CBS for not letting them kiss at the end

  • @danyela3000
    @danyela3000 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg...I am very happy for ellas jajaja..

  • @denisebella
    @denisebella 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! Today's episode FTMFW!

  • @roccodrew1013
    @roccodrew1013 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    por primera vez frank hace algo bien en su vida,

  • @carolm007
    @carolm007 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amidola- I suffered through today's episode that dealt with baby Henry's 1st birthday party where Buzz dressed as a clown..WTF! Who gives a shit about that? They also showed Josh and Reva arguing about getting the same rocking horse gift for Henry...My God, don't they know the end is near? They're wasting air time on this and Jeffrey's battle with Edmund. Wrap that crap up and let us have Otalia for the last week...please!

    • @laminage
      @laminage 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the funniest scenes involving a Clown was on The UK Soap Opera Hollyoaks where Tony Hutchinson (Played By Nick Pickard) since the very first episode in 1995, who dressed as a clown adn scared the you know what out of a patron.

  • @carolm007
    @carolm007 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not alone...I've been grieving about the end being near too(and watching old clips late into the night). It hurts all the more because the censorship of this story line is so unfair and unnecessary. There must have been some big homophobic outcry when Olivia kissed Natalia back in January's 'My two Mommies' episode. It's even more infuriating to us because other soaps are showing same sex couples (men and women) doing so much more. What gives? Especially in light of GL's cancellation.

  • @549621jon
    @549621jon 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i kno... Rafe needs to take his own frakin advice