@@PeterMosertechmosesproductionsto be fair, test cricket has the odd moments of excitement when someone hits a 6, makes a great catch or those tiny margin run outs. And alot of people just treat as a fun day with friends or family to get drunk while chilling in the sun. Powerlifting is more focused and intense so that brings a different dynamic to the viewing perspective
I agree with Nadeem about the form police and trolls becoming a big problem in powerlifting but also the overall fitness community. It’s been bred by social media but it’s carried into the real world now. People filming beginners and making fun of them rather than helping them. Shit talking peoples physiques too. The fitness community should be a very welcoming space but it’s riddled with young guys who didn’t grow up in the same community a lot of us did before tiktok and Instagram.
The fitness community is a very welcoming place. The internet is not. The mentally and emotionally inept people who make fun of beginners and shit on people's physiques only really create problems online - they're too fearful to act the same in-person.
Here’s the thing - why would the average hobbyist powerlifter care if the sport grows? As long as we have a decent place to compete what’s it matter if the top lifters can make a living? For example does the person who plays rec league basketball a couple times a week care how much LeBron gets paid? No - they just wanna play ball against some people who have a similar amount of skill/talent. So my question is what does the average 300-400 dots lifter have to gain from the sport growing?
It’s cool to see the thing you do grow/broadcasted and talked about. It’s like that with any hobby or sport. I think the average might not be sad if it never did grow but people would love if it did
Mike be making mad sense lol idk how else to explain it. I don't want to call it Bro Science because of the stigma it has but it feels like many people on TH-cam are either tryin too hard to be different or trying to be too clinical for whatever reason (maybe that's the times we're in or maybe theyre trying to substantiate their claims). Mike gets it.
It’s not an entertaining sport, and as Mike mentioned much more methodical than bodybuilding. It’s also kind of expensive, going to a dedicated gym or working with a coach, whereas becoming a gym bro is as easy as getting a $10 membership, showing up and learning off TH-cam.
Tbh powerlifting is a bit too specific of a sport and it's hard for large population of people to really get into it. Also, chances of injury is pretty high, so you don't really see people doing it for like 10-15 years. Most powerlifters fall off and you never hear about them again. But then again weightlifting, crossfit, strongman, and bodybuilding is way more popular than powerlifting and those are just as specific or even more specific, so maybe people just have a stigma that all powerlifters are overweight and can't achieve athletic feats? I'm not really sure.
powerlifters are also whiny like i love my gym and the people in it but there are a few that bitch and complain if they can't use a combo rack or a certain bar or the certain plates. to an extent i get it but you're 26 bro i think you can manage
Kinda the same with track and field sports too, barely anyone watches discus and javelin even during the olympics. Need to compete directly against other people to introduce unpredictability. But otherwise powerlifting always has always been objective to the point of being a scientific experiment. Which is great, but also boring.
Although I'm not a powerlifter, I enjoy lifting heavy and doing 1RM, but at the same time I hate taking long rest in between sets because I like to lift like a bodybuilder and leave the gym feeling like I actually worked hard. As a result to this I know my strength will suffer.
This is a ironic comment because I know of at least 4 powerlifting/powerbuilding programs that would have you wondering if you were actually worked out at the gym.... Lol
It's funny cuz a large portion of bodybuilders I see just ride the machines, dog free weights, stay 5 reps away from failure, and complain that powerbuilding and powerlifting focuses too much on strength and exertion to ever get big. Meanwhile most powerlifters I see train like bodybuilders that aren't pussies, and are usually in better shape lol. So Idk. I don't think bodybuilding is the ticket to maxing out every session. IF you want to do that just do some Max Effort shit. Or do one amrap every upper day to get the dog out.
How come INFJ is the rarest type but everyone seems to be one? Over the years I have taken the MBTI numerous times and I always get some specific variation of INFJ. I am 29 now, and the last time I wasn't described as INFJ was in high school, when I was 16 I was labelled as an INTJ. This is kind of annoying to me, because apparently my girlfriend is an INFJ, my sister is an INFJ, and 90% of the people I meet who know about the MBTI seem to also be INFJs. Is this because most of the people who are interested in personality types are INFJs? Is is because INFJs actually aren't that rare? Or is it because most of the people on the internet who create content like this that shares with others and builds communities are INFJ, which leads to this sense that they are more common than they are?
The monotony. There's not much to powerflifting beyond squatting, deadlifting, and squatting. You run out of content fast especially once your reach your genetic potential and start getting older.
Powerlifting isn't pretty. Not saying it can't, but most people just want the aesthetics and commercial gyms will always cater to that with non strength specific equipment.
This is completely wrong because bodybuilding is not about pushing yourself hard. You can do that sometimes but you also have lower intensity days where you focus on movements, pump and so on. It depends on what type of split are you using and are you natural or not. Important thing is to develop mind muscle connection and adjust your exercises and range of motion based on that
There is a way to do all these things you guys want and still compete in a performance sport, and that way is Strongman. You're basically bodybuilding and doing some light skill acquisition in the off season and going as ham on events as you feel like on the day during meet prep. You only really have to cerebrally and accurately program one or two accessory days and that's it. Even then, if your body doesn't want to squat you can just hop on the leg press and it will make very little difference in your overall peak. The main problem with transitioning from PL to Strongman is that most of the guys that were great at PL (short with stubby limbs) will find competing in Strongman really hard at first.
You guys keep mentioning the difference between training powerlifting and bodybuilding and how bodybuilding is more freeing? You guys know that you can just workout or train and it's not even labeled as anything. It's just lifting weights. You can go hit a heavy deadlift single and go do some sandbag carries and then maybe go ride a bike and you don't have to label it as anything. Bodybuilding is not more open than powerlifting. They are sports that require a specific type of training to be better at them. If you just want to work out then you are more free.
I joined and won local PL competitions many years ago and I enjoy Powerlifting content online... That said, I have never watched a full PL livestream and I'd never bother sitting down to watch others compete in person. Unfortunately, Powerlifting as a competition is simply boring to watch. I don't do CF but I'd rather watch the CF games rather than a PL comp, sadly.
Bodybuilders- frat boy, cheerleader, pornstar, g4p, cliques. Social media. Just look good. Not strong. Assholes Powerlifters- Lift heavy. School teacher, anime watchers, calculated. Very friendly, likes to stay away from confrontation, but if a bodybuilder talks shit, the powerlifter will roast the bodybuilder for being weak. Crossfiter- Scientologists of lifting...lol Strongman- probably a farm boy/farm girl/rancher, construction worker, blue collar...lol Everything is weight, cars, people, boats, plane. Physically visually the most intimidating, but probably the nicest.
judging 1 rep maxes is why i dont find powerlifting fun to watch, the lift is over too quick. if it was a first to 5 reps against others in your weightclass, it would be more entertaining.
Have a look at the bronze era of bodybuilding, despite their flat chests their physiques were so asthetic and look powerful. One guy would travel to museums to look at greek god statue's and measure every muscle and replicate that in his bodybuilding sculpting. But nowadays everything is out of porportions and dont look as functionally strong.
@@SeanWalsh1 the amount of technical skill needed in olympic weightlifting is beyond insane imo. powerlifting is so divided right now with the numerous different feds. although in the olympics there are all kinds of flaws like the press-out rule, politics & corruption, doping, etc. even as someone that participates in powerlifting, i still find oly lifting much more entertaining to view. i believe oly lifting is much more digestable to watch for the general population as well
@@jettaletta agree to disagree because if u grab the average normie they understand bench press squat and dead’s more than oly lifts because that’s what u see at commercial gyms
In terms of audience growth, a whole powerlifting comp is lowkey boring to watch 😂
High key boring, unfortunately
My family want to see me compete but I told them not to come cuz they’ll be bored
Yeah but so is test cricket and it's a huge sport in India, UK, Australia and South Africa
@@PeterMosertechmosesproductions I would guess cus it’s more technical and it’s a team sport which = more fun to watch
@@PeterMosertechmosesproductionsto be fair, test cricket has the odd moments of excitement when someone hits a 6, makes a great catch or those tiny margin run outs. And alot of people just treat as a fun day with friends or family to get drunk while chilling in the sun. Powerlifting is more focused and intense so that brings a different dynamic to the viewing perspective
I agree with Nadeem about the form police and trolls becoming a big problem in powerlifting but also the overall fitness community. It’s been bred by social media but it’s carried into the real world now. People filming beginners and making fun of them rather than helping them. Shit talking peoples physiques too. The fitness community should be a very welcoming space but it’s riddled with young guys who didn’t grow up in the same community a lot of us did before tiktok and Instagram.
The fitness community is a very welcoming place. The internet is not. The mentally and emotionally inept people who make fun of beginners and shit on people's physiques only really create problems online - they're too fearful to act the same in-person.
Here’s the thing - why would the average hobbyist powerlifter care if the sport grows? As long as we have a decent place to compete what’s it matter if the top lifters can make a living?
For example does the person who plays rec league basketball a couple times a week care how much LeBron gets paid? No - they just wanna play ball against some people who have a similar amount of skill/talent.
So my question is what does the average 300-400 dots lifter have to gain from the sport growing?
If more people knew about it I feel like it would be a lot better
@@logansmith8102 how so?
@@stephenburial No one really knows about it so I feel like if more did it would just be a bigger sport
It’s cool to see the thing you do grow/broadcasted and talked about. It’s like that with any hobby or sport. I think the average might not be sad if it never did grow but people would love if it did
@@DrexPlays Yeah people that are competitive in it would be the only ones really affected but same with any other sport
You guys would really love the conjugate method, which I’m sure you’ve heard of.
Mike be making mad sense lol idk how else to explain it. I don't want to call it Bro Science because of the stigma it has but it feels like many people on TH-cam are either tryin too hard to be different or trying to be too clinical for whatever reason (maybe that's the times we're in or maybe theyre trying to substantiate their claims). Mike gets it.
It’s not an entertaining sport, and as Mike mentioned much more methodical than bodybuilding. It’s also kind of expensive, going to a dedicated gym or working with a coach, whereas becoming a gym bro is as easy as getting a $10 membership, showing up and learning off TH-cam.
These videos are awesome and deserve more views
If something's gonna grow you have to add to it.
Tbh powerlifting is a bit too specific of a sport and it's hard for large population of people to really get into it. Also, chances of injury is pretty high, so you don't really see people doing it for like 10-15 years. Most powerlifters fall off and you never hear about them again. But then again weightlifting, crossfit, strongman, and bodybuilding is way more popular than powerlifting and those are just as specific or even more specific, so maybe people just have a stigma that all powerlifters are overweight and can't achieve athletic feats? I'm not really sure.
Ain't no nobody just wanna watch people lift weights
What camera do you guys use
people don't care to watch because there's no competition. you only compete against yourself in powerlifting.
The truth is that people don't understand difference between powerlifting and strength training...
Barbell 4eva 💪
powerlifters are also whiny like i love my gym and the people in it but there are a few that bitch and complain if they can't use a combo rack or a certain bar or the certain plates. to an extent i get it but you're 26 bro i think you can manage
lol
Kinda the same with track and field sports too, barely anyone watches discus and javelin even during the olympics. Need to compete directly against other people to introduce unpredictability. But otherwise powerlifting always has always been objective to the point of being a scientific experiment. Which is great, but also boring.
Although I'm not a powerlifter, I enjoy lifting heavy and doing 1RM, but at the same time I hate taking long rest in between sets because I like to lift like a bodybuilder and leave the gym feeling like I actually worked hard. As a result to this I know my strength will suffer.
This is a ironic comment because I know of at least 4 powerlifting/powerbuilding programs that would have you wondering if you were actually worked out at the gym.... Lol
It's funny cuz a large portion of bodybuilders I see just ride the machines, dog free weights, stay 5 reps away from failure, and complain that powerbuilding and powerlifting focuses too much on strength and exertion to ever get big. Meanwhile most powerlifters I see train like bodybuilders that aren't pussies, and are usually in better shape lol. So Idk. I don't think bodybuilding is the ticket to maxing out every session. IF you want to do that just do some Max Effort shit. Or do one amrap every upper day to get the dog out.
How come INFJ is the rarest type but everyone seems to be one?
Over the years I have taken the MBTI numerous times and I always get some specific variation of INFJ. I am 29 now, and the last time I wasn't described as INFJ was in high school, when I was 16 I was labelled as an INTJ.
This is kind of annoying to me, because apparently my girlfriend is an INFJ, my sister is an INFJ, and 90% of the people I meet who know about the MBTI seem to also be INFJs.
Is this because most of the people who are interested in personality types are INFJs? Is is because INFJs actually aren't that rare? Or is it because most of the people on the internet who create content like this that shares with others and builds communities are INFJ, which leads to this sense that they are more common than they are?
Bro, don't take that shit too serious. I got INTJ, ISTJ then ISTP.
Fuck knows dude I got INTP
The monotony. There's not much to powerflifting beyond squatting, deadlifting, and squatting. You run out of content fast especially once your reach your genetic potential and start getting older.
Powerlifting isn't pretty. Not saying it can't, but most people just want the aesthetics and commercial gyms will always cater to that with non strength specific equipment.
This is completely wrong because bodybuilding is not about pushing yourself hard. You can do that sometimes but you also have lower intensity days where you focus on movements, pump and so on. It depends on what type of split are you using and are you natural or not. Important thing is to develop mind muscle connection and adjust your exercises and range of motion based on that
There is a way to do all these things you guys want and still compete in a performance sport, and that way is Strongman. You're basically bodybuilding and doing some light skill acquisition in the off season and going as ham on events as you feel like on the day during meet prep. You only really have to cerebrally and accurately program one or two accessory days and that's it. Even then, if your body doesn't want to squat you can just hop on the leg press and it will make very little difference in your overall peak.
The main problem with transitioning from PL to Strongman is that most of the guys that were great at PL (short with stubby limbs) will find competing in Strongman really hard at first.
You guys keep mentioning the difference between training powerlifting and bodybuilding and how bodybuilding is more freeing? You guys know that you can just workout or train and it's not even labeled as anything. It's just lifting weights. You can go hit a heavy deadlift single and go do some sandbag carries and then maybe go ride a bike and you don't have to label it as anything. Bodybuilding is not more open than powerlifting. They are sports that require a specific type of training to be better at them. If you just want to work out then you are more free.
I joined and won local PL competitions many years ago and I enjoy Powerlifting content online... That said, I have never watched a full PL livestream and I'd never bother sitting down to watch others compete in person.
Unfortunately, Powerlifting as a competition is simply boring to watch.
I don't do CF but I'd rather watch the CF games rather than a PL comp, sadly.
Bodybuilders- frat boy, cheerleader, pornstar, g4p, cliques. Social media. Just look good. Not strong. Assholes
Powerlifters- Lift heavy. School teacher, anime watchers, calculated. Very friendly, likes to stay away from confrontation, but if a bodybuilder talks shit, the powerlifter will roast the bodybuilder for being weak.
Crossfiter- Scientologists of lifting...lol
Strongman- probably a farm boy/farm girl/rancher, construction worker, blue collar...lol Everything is weight, cars, people, boats, plane. Physically visually the most intimidating, but probably the nicest.
judging 1 rep maxes is why i dont find powerlifting fun to watch, the lift is over too quick. if it was a first to 5 reps against others in your weightclass, it would be more entertaining.
Diversifying the "events" of powerlifting would definitely improve the watchability
They would need to make it more interesting to watch somehow.
There is too much complaining in this discussion. Have a clue why you're in the gym and go for it.
Have a look at the bronze era of bodybuilding, despite their flat chests their physiques were so asthetic and look powerful. One guy would travel to museums to look at greek god statue's and measure every muscle and replicate that in his bodybuilding sculpting.
But nowadays everything is out of porportions and dont look as functionally strong.
I wish powerlifting was in the olympics, so much cooler imo then weightlifting, however both should be in it
I disagree
@@BboyYummy why
@@SeanWalsh1 similar answer like urs, nothing srs. For me weightlifting is cooler than powerlifting😅
@@SeanWalsh1 the amount of technical skill needed in olympic weightlifting is beyond insane imo. powerlifting is so divided right now with the numerous different feds. although in the olympics there are all kinds of flaws like the press-out rule, politics & corruption, doping, etc.
even as someone that participates in powerlifting, i still find oly lifting much more entertaining to view. i believe oly lifting is much more digestable to watch for the general population as well
@@jettaletta agree to disagree because if u grab the average normie they understand bench press squat and dead’s more than oly lifts because that’s what u see at commercial gyms