Lets be honest here. This is quite common with evolve boards. Ive seen more and more stories like this with evolve boards vs DIY boards. I had the same issues with my GTR, my DIY board has cut out before, and i know exactly why, my stupidity with a custom remote. But with proper components, from reputable companies, ive never had an issue. Ill never buy another evolve board at the inflated RRP they have them at
Worse thing happened with my carbon Hayden.. the motors cut out then restarded over and over again randomly at high speed causing me to crash.. im now 6 months into recovery after having a tibial plateau fracture (knee fracture) and metal pins put in place.. No refunds.
I'm glad you ok man! I broke my ribs on GTR when suddenly one motor just quit and stop sending me flying like 10 feet.I wouldn't trust it no more. Interesting thing is that i rode almost 500 miles over several (cold) months on one motor before that one failed!!! Besides, parts are seriously overpriced and outdated!!!
Reason why gtr boards fail is too small motors, they overheat and after awhile sensors fail and lock the wheel!!! I had those motors running normal on sensorless Vesc (Stormcore 60d)!!! Same thing happened to me with my aftermarket build, sensors died and motor locked! I can run Stormcore sensor or sensorless and after switching to sensorless motors run flawlessly for last 2100 miles! It's not the motor it's the sensors failing and that's why motors lock !!! BTW Stormcore has Hybrid option where is using sensors at lower speeds and run sensorless at high speed which i thinks the best option!!!
I didn't find the drop down to have any noticeable affect at top speed, in fact I liked the way it hugged the outside of my feet. You are right though, it does corner sharper so people have to be aware of that. I prefer the Hadean to my GTR, and 100% AT wheels all the way, as you may be doing top speed and come up to a change of surface/terrain, and will need the off road tyres
What a shame evolve haven’t solved their issues with the new board. I went through two GTR speed controllers inside the return period. Sent the board back.
Dude thanks for sharing and I am glad it wasn’t worse! I was thinking of going hadean since my gtr over heats and I ise it for commuting but now I am not sure I wanna go that way… was thinking ExWay atlas pro, the are like 1000$ less, very fast and I haven’t heard any stories about motors failing or remotes disconnecting…
My Hadeon died last week, does not turn on. Just lost power completely, I had about 65% battery just before this happened. Its back at the shop now where there was a bunch of them for repair.
@@SparkyJames yes, they alluded to saying there was teething issues. The issue for me is if I was full speed down a hill which I do often is all of a sudden I have no brakes. Dangerous. .. and not something I want to worry about when out having fun on my board.
@@thesoundof8065 Two weeks later, what was evolves response / explanation ? Did any parts get replaced ? Firmware / driver version changes ? Any other issues, like at all, even a weird noise ? " there was a bunch of them for repair. " How many did you see in for repair roughly ?
@@LORFCASTER it was a simple fix with the on/off button. These boards must take a lot of vibration so assuming a wire had come off etc. There were about 6 to 8 boards there for repair. I don't k ow if they were all hadeons. Happy to be back riding again. Good Times!
Hey mate. Same thing happened to me just recently, got some good injurys from it. Lucky you are able to return it. Evolve have no interest in helping me. Extremely disappointed.
The first Evolve Board that came out had a single Motor & it threw me off the board after hitting a Rock & I lost my left Elbow replaced with a Carbon Fibre Elbow 10 Years ago, I also lost my EASY Security Job after having taken 6 Months to recover from that accident. In the last Year I’d taken up Electric Skateboarding again & a Week after installing the Bash Guard 2 on my GTR, I went into a Speed Wobble going down a steep hill at 50+ Klm’s then hit a Bump in the Road dislodging the rear Truck to the side throwing me off the Board giving me a Fractured right Shoulder with both of my shoulders & arms shot & a Month off Work at my EASY Carer Job! Both my Arms were in so much Pain for about 3 Weeks. My Carbon GTR will now forever sit on a Stand in the Corner of my Bedroom as a reminder of how Dangerous these things are, never to be used again. I’ll stick to just Walking & driving my Sports Car. Electric Skateboards are Fun but, I’ll just push myself to get the ultimate Adrenaline Rush going Faster & Faster until I have an accident, I do the same thing with Motorbikes so its just safer not to own these things!
Thats to bad. My Bamboo GT cut out while accelerating and that made me fly on the ground super hard at high speed. I thought they finally solved that problem with the newest boards. Well that saves me a lot of money. Maybe i will get an electrice bike and tune it.
Had this on my hadean too mate was the m2 motor control phasing out think it stops the board from turning back on so it dosent damage components i wasnt so unlucky though i was going 42 down a hill and leaning bavk a bit when it died so i was able to controll it to a gradual stop
Did you contact evolve about it ? What did they say ? Did you send it in ? If yes, what got repaired / replaced ? 3 weeks later, do you have any issues with the Hadean right now ?
@@LORFCASTER recently purchased two hadeans, a carbon and bamboo, both cutting out going up hills making it very dangerous to ride. Just wanted to see if anyone has heard from evolve regarding this issue? Considering sending the boards back and purchasing different boards if this issue is not able to be resolved.
hi man , i have the same board ... did u felt something before the board died? i mean like a loss of power or something? mine still have like 25 km and at one time i felt an hiccup just once tho ..now is running ok
No I didn’t feel anything, I did loose the state of charge indicator it just went to 0% but no error or warning, and I looked at the battery options the cells all Said 0v. It came back thought, but it was still working while that went on, it may have nothing to do with it though.
The bamboo gtr is your favourite board? Let me just tell you man...the gtr is a dangerous board. It's a good thing it doesn't go too fast. Wouldn't use it with street wheels cause it's too fast considering it can stop suddenly and without warning. It happens when the ESC overheats. This usually has something to do with the motors. Either a screw falls out (which is common) or if you tighten the belts or if they screwed the motors in wrong, watch the fk out. I was missing a screw in each motor and when my esc overheated it was without warning. Luckily I had slowed down to take a corner but I've talked to people who were launched at full speed and experienced serious injuries. Get a higher quality board imo. I use the GTR still but I'm always afraid it will launch me. Got it repaired and LOW AND BEHOLD ANOTHER FUCKING SCREW FELL OUT. What a piece of shit imo. Why do they use such bad hardware? Beyond me. For the price it should be better. The only thing compelling to me is the new remote, since the old one was trash. I'd like a remote that doesn't shatter into a million pieces from a 3 foot drop
Ive had a GTR Stoke for about 1.5 years, i ride 5+ days a week and have never had ghost acceleration or random disconnects ( i live in a busy city and rode beside other GTR boards afew times ). Surprising amount of screw failures though O_O lol. I still ride all the time. Evolve responded right away and covered everything needed under warranty. I really REALLY hope the Hadean succeeds
@@LORFCASTER I'm sure most boards don't encounter the issue, but the fact that the board's brakes engage 100% if the motor controller fails is just unacceptable to me. All I can say is I'm glad it's slow. The possibility of that happening at higher speeds is terrifying
@@jl8096 What would you recomend GTR owners do or NOT do, in order to avoid issue ? Have you found a fix for the problem or has evolve ever given an official answer / response ?
Glad you are ok. Heard so many horror stories about Evolve. Also the disgusting ways that the company and their riders behave ended any chance of me ever buying one of their boards. It’s sad really.
@@MrDellinx They have a hard core following. Those particular followers are very abusive towards riders of other board brands and especially hostile towards DIY board owners. Unfortunately their behaviour is directly encouraged by evolve. My experience with evolve was when I had major issues with my old GTR not even a month into owning it. They refused to honour the warranty citing rider error and claimed that the warranty was voided when I started using aftermarket bushings (which is illegal to do). Basically they're a bunch of frauds.
@@LayersandCake really? wow , thats interesting cause its been that way for me but the opposite. i feel like the DIY community out here in San Diego is more hostile to Evolve riders *shrug* either way its a shame that that type of crap is going on, i def would not associate my self with any rider being hostile wether its an evolve rider or DIY, most of the time i just heckled for riding the Carbon Hedean and by how much it cost me. but it shouldn't matter they have their boards that they like to ride and i have mine. Thankfully i did not have issue with my Hedean currently at just under 1,000 miles
My GTR had a similar issue but the blue light was flashing on the board post it stopping outright and throwing me off. Remote was on but unresponsive/ no connection. 2 restarts later it works again, ride home slowly and send back the next day. They slap a new motor controller in it and it's been ok for the last year. (I couldn't return mine it being 6 weeks old in the UK.) So yeah, won't be getting evolve again. Had hoped for the folks that praise them that they might address their motor controller issues but nah, they don't give a s*** do they. You're lucky not to end up under a car or anything. The least premium board out there lol
That sucks, I have personal saw a friend get thrown off his gtr, locked up and the motor control started smoking, it was only 8 weeks old. My GTR I’ve had for nearly 2 years has been flawless though over 4000 km on it. In Australia the consumer laws say that if you’re product has a major fault(it won’t work at all) you can return it for a refund, they don’t specify a time but with 3 months of purchase they is generally a reasonable amount of time that this would apply.
Man, lucky it wasn't worse off. I've heard of some pretty extreme horror stories about the hadean and evolve in general. For the record, DIY and custom boards are a lot safer especially if you go through high end builders and reputable companies for parts. Definitely not cheaper than production boards but worth the money if you want top end components and don't mind spending the cash. I'm a former evolve GTR owner and I ended up ditching the board for a custom rig because of how horrendous evolve was when it came time to honour the warranty. Citing that because I used aftermarket bushings (venom), that the warranty was voided. I witnessed one evolve staff member (her name starting with a K and ending in Y) verbally abusing an elderly man who was with his carer asking about a present for his granddaughter. I won't ever deal with them again after that. I hope you healed up well and keep riding mate.
Thanks, I’m getting back into it again. Been out a bit of the last few weeks. Interestingly I got an email from evolve stating “We have discovered a concern with Hadean Bamboo battery cases which requires an immediate physical adjustment. In some situations we have discovered the battery case coming into contact with a component, which has a risk of causing damage resulting in improper operation. Whilst concerns have only been observed on a small minority of boards, all Bamboo Hadean owners must get this battery case adjustment to mitigate the risk before riding your board.” I wonder if that was what happened to my board?
@@SparkyJames That sounds like an excuse to me. The issue was the software, cheap Chinese parts and poor programing. It wasn't the minority but the majority of their boards having serious issues. Even today, the hadean has a major safety issues and faults. I think it shouldn't be on the market as someone will get themselves killed, if it hasn't happened already. Did you end up getting a refund and riding safe these days?
There's only one board I've ever truly been impressed with and that is the lacroix nazare supersport. It's heavy as fuck, but it's quality. No hardware falling out or breaking in the mounts on this puppy. The battery sag is annoying at lower voltages and that's one thing I give mad props to the GTR for, but I'll choose safety every time.
The Nazare supersport is not supposed to have any voltage sag due to using Molicell batteries, the Lonestar supersport has some claims of voltage sag due to using samsung cells at the moment. However there are lots of videos showing proper range achieved on the Lonestar Supersport.... so im not sure what to think at the moment. Maybe just fluke issues with the people that have claimed sag and therefor disappointing range for the Lonestar SS. Comment sections seem to confidently blame the Samsung cells
The GTR and even the hadean have horrible battery sag, my diy gtr with p42a cells same as the nazare supersport pulled so much harder on ATs vs street setups at similar voltages
@@LORFCASTER hmm well it depends how you look at it, if you are judging it by the percent reading on the stormcore app, it definitely has sag. Gunning it up a hill for a minute straight at 40% battery is going to fuck that shit straight up. By the time you are at 15% you can barely move the thing. I reached out to lacroix for support and they told me the battery percentage is not an accurate way to read this battery, gotta look at voltage or something? Idk. Anyways the range on my nazare supersport at least 1.5x what my GTR AT does so it's enough for me, generally speaking. With rare exception. I just wish there was a smaller charger, I'd gladly wait twice as long for a full charge if I could carry around a GTR sized charger
@@LORFCASTER All batteries have a considerable voltage sag, it's just that molicel p42a have the lowest one. For ex. at 30a per cell the molicel's voltage sag is huge at over 50% of battery's capacity.
They give you a hard time trying to return it? I just had a stoke series 2 try and kill me twice. Locked the brakes full up and threw me off both times. I have 4 other evolves. Never had a problem till now.
No because I got it from JB Hifi. I do have an Evolve Bamboo that I’ve had the longest, and it has been great, except I’ve had to buy 5 remotes for it, I think they might make a phase remote for the Bamboo now.
It just free rolled, it didn’t lock up, I came off because I was going round a tight s bend. It may actually have cut out sooner (before the bend) but I just didn’t realise immediately.
DIY boards tends to need work, ironically I wanted a board that was less work and more reliable. I have 1 dead cell, that I need to repair(my fault when I made it) and it's quite loud, but apart from that pretty good. I just got a new ENNOID XLITE BMS to fit to it as well, and a Davaga X
@@dailyeskate2113 All boards need work, your hadean literally stopped working so everything is affected by maintenance, etc needed. DIY at least some of the work is part of the fun with upgrades, etc.
@@ajplant96 that is true. I had a board that I built with mostly Enertion Skateboard Components when the company was still in business and about 4 years later I had to use components from torque boards to revive it because the motor mounts were starting to go out on the enertion diy kit.
That’s unfortunate mate. Glad it’s only minor injuries. I got my Hadean bamboo a couple days ago and have only rode it for 8kms. I know what u mean but the more sensitive turning 😅 I hope this doesn’t happen to me but I guess it’s a risk you take with any eboard.
It is indeed the risk, but so much fun. Try it with 115mm rubber wheels instead of all-terrain, it's more stable and still has pretty good go-anywhere ability. The onsra and lycon rubber wheels both fit but you will need to get different length belts for the hadean. You can work it out here flowtingwood.com/belt-length-calculator
My experience with Evolve versus DIY, Backfire, Koohweel, Boosted, has been one of surprise and pain. Never have I come across so many board releases from one company, with so many problems, particularly the surprise brakes while cruising at speed. This is far too common, even with the latest gtr carbon, 3/3 separate boards could not go an entire year before fucking up in one way or another. The remotes are flimsy and expensive to replace, the magnets that control the throttle break off inside the remote and cause the board to function in ways that are completely unacceptable for the premium price you pay. Personally, I would never ever spend my hard earned money on an evolve skateboard, they are fucking dangerous, unreliable, and expensive.
@@LORFCASTER yes I’ve been riding regularly for just over a month. Functionality wise the board runs super smooth, no weird noise or nothing. Absolutely love the ride. I did have a bad fall going 44km/h because I was being stupid and had the death wobbles. Slammed the controller down into the pavement really hard. Controller Still works fine with only minor scratches 😅 To be honest the only problem I had was the LED lights didn’t work properly. Weak power outage. Returned it to evolve and they fixed the problem free of charge.
Got GTR carbon, same thing happened, and it’s literally always something wrong with the board, cost $500-$700 extra every year to make it run. Evolve sucks!!!
Sorry for that man. I had similar issue with my meepo. The board locked wheels for a second and then the speed accelerated fast , i almost fell. Second time the board just turned off. That’s why my max is 22mph and average speed is 17mph
I've had my GTR for over a year with zero problems, and over 1000km so hopefully my incidence with the hadean it a minority, evolve does contribute inovation to the community so I hope issues like this are limited.
@@dailyeskate2113 I had a GTR for a couple of years and after the first 10 months got major issues, could have killed me. Pissed off at this company because it got repaired with fresh hardware in the motors and I had a screw break inside the motor. Similar issue caused esc to overheat and brakes locked 100% while riding. I mean 100% lock, board smoking, wheels would not unlock even once I turned the board off, something seriously fucked with their design. I heard this was a safety feature so the board doesn't keep rolling if you are going downhill, and all I can say is that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of and these idiots need to get replaced by smarter people. I know how to footbrake, and on a board as light as the GTR it's super easy to do, I would way, WAYYY rather have the thing keep rolling
@@solomonjenkins9505 Old thread here but thought id chime in cause it happened to me on GTR top speed wheels locked rag dolled for 15 feet . I could barely walk the mile to my home . major road rash ...i was lucky . Motor controller issue. I ride a Hadean Bamboo AT today ...just love it!
@@martinsimpson2231 I'm surprised you'd buy another product from them after that experience man. I've heard too many such issues on the GTR. I got the new phaze remote anyway so at least I don't have to worry about my remote crumbling in my hand, and I figure I'll still ride it, but I'm just not going to really trust it that much...
Yeah, it's almost inevitable. I think the thing to keep in mind is where you're riding. If you are on the road in amongst cars it could be pretty serious, and I could have little to do with lack of skill.
Very sad! I have heard a ton of reports about the Exway Atlas having motor and battery problems not to mention motor lock-ups. Could it be that you crashed the board by your owning doing and now just want to be able to return it?
I did at first think had had simply fallen, and falling off isn’t the reason I returned it. The problem is that as soon as it happened the board would not turn on, power up again so it was unusable. It was at 80% charge, and has no physical damage at all. And the thought of sending a 10 day old product back the the manufacturer and waiting to get it repaired and sent back is crazy, and I will add a problem I sure all esk8 brands probably have to unfortunately deal with to some degree as you mentioned in your comment. So under Australian consumer law you can return a product for refund and reasonable cost incurred for a major failure.(in my case shipping) I still have my GTR for now and my DIY board too.
@@contorta960 This profile calling user error has popped up in a few different Evolve critical (honest) vids, p sure it’s their video guy at this point 😂
Seriously Evolve fans are just laughably embarrassing. Their garbage overpriced board has issues then tries and deflect saying the atlas is having the issues that the Hadyan is actually having. What a tool lol. Prediction. evolve is out of business within 3 years. Never learned to Evolve.
@@contorta960 You sound depressed. Hope you will feel better soon. I called Evolve about this video. Yes, you can actually call Evolve. Try that with Meepo...
I hate evolve because I have similar problem . But I drive with 35 km and my battery going off and the the bambooo stop like I put brake . They not believe me and do not care very shit support .
evolve is a disgusting company, worst customer service, shitty failing products... the bamboo boards crack and all boards have cutoff issues. unusable for city cruising where a cutoff and throwoff can mean death by going under a car.
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Lets be honest here. This is quite common with evolve boards. Ive seen more and more stories like this with evolve boards vs DIY boards. I had the same issues with my GTR, my DIY board has cut out before, and i know exactly why, my stupidity with a custom remote. But with proper components, from reputable companies, ive never had an issue. Ill never buy another evolve board at the inflated RRP they have them at
Worse thing happened with my carbon Hayden.. the motors cut out then restarded over and over again randomly at high speed causing me to crash.. im now 6 months into recovery after having a tibial plateau fracture (knee fracture) and metal pins put in place..
No refunds.
@@migicmatt I have the similar problem and they not believe me when I contact with
I'm glad you ok man! I broke my ribs on GTR when suddenly one motor just quit and stop sending me flying like 10 feet.I wouldn't trust it no more. Interesting thing is that i rode almost 500 miles over several (cold) months on one motor before that one failed!!! Besides, parts are seriously overpriced and outdated!!!
Did u got see a lawyer
have you purchased a new board from another company?
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I have the same problem and they not believe me .
Reason why gtr boards fail is too small motors, they overheat and after awhile sensors fail and lock the wheel!!! I had those motors running normal on sensorless Vesc (Stormcore 60d)!!! Same thing happened to me with my aftermarket build, sensors died and motor locked! I can run Stormcore sensor or sensorless and after switching to sensorless motors run flawlessly for last 2100 miles! It's not the motor it's the sensors failing and that's why motors lock !!! BTW Stormcore has Hybrid option where is using sensors at lower speeds and run sensorless at high speed which i thinks the best option!!!
I didn't find the drop down to have any noticeable affect at top speed, in fact I liked the way it hugged the outside of my feet. You are right though, it does corner sharper so people have to be aware of that. I prefer the Hadean to my GTR, and 100% AT wheels all the way, as you may be doing top speed and come up to a change of surface/terrain, and will need the off road tyres
What a shame evolve haven’t solved their issues with the new board. I went through two GTR speed controllers inside the return period. Sent the board back.
Dude thanks for sharing and I am glad it wasn’t worse! I was thinking of going hadean since my gtr over heats and I ise it for commuting but now I am not sure I wanna go that way… was thinking ExWay atlas pro, the are like 1000$ less, very fast and I haven’t heard any stories about motors failing or remotes disconnecting…
My Hadeon died last week, does not turn on. Just lost power completely, I had about 65% battery just before this happened. Its back at the shop now where there was a bunch of them for repair.
Hmmm they could have new problem to go with the new board, at least it seems like the board will keep rolling and not stop instantly
@@SparkyJames yes, they alluded to saying there was teething issues. The issue for me is if I was full speed down a hill which I do often is all of a sudden I have no brakes. Dangerous. .. and not something I want to worry about when out having fun on my board.
@@thesoundof8065 Two weeks later, what was evolves response / explanation ? Did any parts get replaced ? Firmware / driver version changes ? Any other issues, like at all, even a weird noise ?
" there was a bunch of them for repair. " How many did you see in for repair roughly ?
@@LORFCASTER it was a simple fix with the on/off button. These boards must take a lot of vibration so assuming a wire had come off etc. There were about 6 to 8 boards there for repair. I don't k ow if they were all hadeons. Happy to be back riding again. Good Times!
Super glad i have the carbon gtr then. Sounds like the release hadean has some major issues. Won't be worth getting one for some time yet
Appreciate the honest review brother. 👍
Hey mate. Same thing happened to me just recently, got some good injurys from it.
Lucky you are able to return it. Evolve have no interest in helping me.
Extremely disappointed.
The first Evolve Board that came out had a single Motor & it threw me off the board after hitting a Rock & I lost my left Elbow replaced with a Carbon Fibre Elbow 10 Years ago, I also lost my EASY Security Job after having taken 6 Months to recover from that accident. In the last Year I’d taken up Electric Skateboarding again & a Week after installing the Bash Guard 2 on my GTR, I went into a Speed Wobble going down a steep hill at 50+ Klm’s then hit a Bump in the Road dislodging the rear Truck to the side throwing me off the Board giving me a Fractured right Shoulder with both of my shoulders & arms shot & a Month off Work at my EASY Carer Job! Both my Arms were in so much Pain for about 3 Weeks. My Carbon GTR will now forever sit on a Stand in the Corner of my Bedroom as a reminder of how Dangerous these things are, never to be used again. I’ll stick to just Walking & driving my Sports Car. Electric Skateboards are Fun but, I’ll just push myself to get the ultimate Adrenaline Rush going Faster & Faster until I have an accident, I do the same thing with Motorbikes so its just safer not to own these things!
My boosted v2 has been great. Well once time going down a hill it died and I had to use my feet for brakes. I have 1200 miles on in.
Thats to bad. My Bamboo GT cut out while accelerating and that made me fly on the ground super hard at high speed.
I thought they finally solved that problem with the newest boards. Well that saves me a lot of money. Maybe i will get an electrice bike and tune it.
or look into other e-boards like meepo hurricane, ownboard zues pro, eovan gts super or laxroix if yu have the money
Had this on my hadean too mate was the m2 motor control phasing out think it stops the board from turning back on so it dosent damage components i wasnt so unlucky though i was going 42 down a hill and leaning bavk a bit when it died so i was able to controll it to a gradual stop
Did you contact evolve about it ? What did they say ? Did you send it in ? If yes, what got repaired / replaced ?
3 weeks later, do you have any issues with the Hadean right now ?
@@LORFCASTER recently purchased two hadeans, a carbon and bamboo, both cutting out going up hills making it very dangerous to ride. Just wanted to see if anyone has heard from evolve regarding this issue? Considering sending the boards back and purchasing different boards if this issue is not able to be resolved.
I am having similar issues with two Hadean boards losing all power at random. Commenting to hear how Evolve handled the issue.
hi man , i have the same board ... did u felt something before the board died? i mean like a loss of power or something? mine still have like 25 km and at one time i felt an hiccup just once tho ..now is running ok
No I didn’t feel anything, I did loose the state of charge indicator it just went to 0% but no error or warning, and I looked at the battery options the cells all
Said 0v. It came back thought, but it was still working while that went on, it may have nothing to do with it though.
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The bamboo gtr is your favourite board? Let me just tell you man...the gtr is a dangerous board. It's a good thing it doesn't go too fast. Wouldn't use it with street wheels cause it's too fast considering it can stop suddenly and without warning. It happens when the ESC overheats. This usually has something to do with the motors. Either a screw falls out (which is common) or if you tighten the belts or if they screwed the motors in wrong, watch the fk out. I was missing a screw in each motor and when my esc overheated it was without warning. Luckily I had slowed down to take a corner but I've talked to people who were launched at full speed and experienced serious injuries.
Get a higher quality board imo. I use the GTR still but I'm always afraid it will launch me. Got it repaired and LOW AND BEHOLD ANOTHER FUCKING SCREW FELL OUT. What a piece of shit imo. Why do they use such bad hardware? Beyond me. For the price it should be better. The only thing compelling to me is the new remote, since the old one was trash. I'd like a remote that doesn't shatter into a million pieces from a 3 foot drop
Ive had a GTR Stoke for about 1.5 years, i ride 5+ days a week and have never had ghost acceleration or random disconnects ( i live in a busy city and rode beside other GTR boards afew times ). Surprising amount of screw failures though O_O lol. I still ride all the time. Evolve responded right away and covered everything needed under warranty.
I really REALLY hope the Hadean succeeds
@@LORFCASTER I'm sure most boards don't encounter the issue, but the fact that the board's brakes engage 100% if the motor controller fails is just unacceptable to me. All I can say is I'm glad it's slow. The possibility of that happening at higher speeds is terrifying
I used 4 GTRs and 3 of them has same issue with yours. IT happens when I use in GTR mode with motor overheated.
@@jl8096 What would you recomend GTR owners do or NOT do, in order to avoid issue ? Have you found a fix for the problem or has evolve ever given an official answer / response ?
Glad you are ok. Heard so many horror stories about Evolve. Also the disgusting ways that the company and their riders behave ended any chance of me ever buying one of their boards. It’s sad really.
behaved? what do you mean?
@@MrDellinx They have a hard core following. Those particular followers are very abusive towards riders of other board brands and especially hostile towards DIY board owners. Unfortunately their behaviour is directly encouraged by evolve.
My experience with evolve was when I had major issues with my old GTR not even a month into owning it. They refused to honour the warranty citing rider error and claimed that the warranty was voided when I started using aftermarket bushings (which is illegal to do). Basically they're a bunch of frauds.
@@LayersandCake really? wow , thats interesting cause its been that way for me but the opposite. i feel like the DIY community out here in San Diego is more hostile to Evolve riders *shrug* either way its a shame that that type of crap is going on, i def would not associate my self with any rider being hostile wether its an evolve rider or DIY, most of the time i just heckled for riding the Carbon Hedean and by how much it cost me. but it shouldn't matter they have their boards that they like to ride and i have mine. Thankfully i did not have issue with my Hedean currently at just under 1,000 miles
My GTR had a similar issue but the blue light was flashing on the board post it stopping outright and throwing me off. Remote was on but unresponsive/ no connection. 2 restarts later it works again, ride home slowly and send back the next day. They slap a new motor controller in it and it's been ok for the last year. (I couldn't return mine it being 6 weeks old in the UK.) So yeah, won't be getting evolve again. Had hoped for the folks that praise them that they might address their motor controller issues but nah, they don't give a s*** do they. You're lucky not to end up under a car or anything. The least premium board out there lol
That sucks, I have personal saw a friend get thrown off his gtr, locked up and the motor control started smoking, it was only 8 weeks old. My GTR I’ve had for nearly 2 years has been flawless though over 4000 km on it. In Australia the consumer laws say that if you’re product has a major fault(it won’t work at all) you can return it for a refund, they don’t specify a time but with 3 months of purchase they is generally a reasonable amount of time that this would apply.
Man, lucky it wasn't worse off. I've heard of some pretty extreme horror stories about the hadean and evolve in general.
For the record, DIY and custom boards are a lot safer especially if you go through high end builders and reputable companies for parts. Definitely not cheaper than production boards but worth the money if you want top end components and don't mind spending the cash.
I'm a former evolve GTR owner and I ended up ditching the board for a custom rig because of how horrendous evolve was when it came time to honour the warranty. Citing that because I used aftermarket bushings (venom), that the warranty was voided.
I witnessed one evolve staff member (her name starting with a K and ending in Y) verbally abusing an elderly man who was with his carer asking about a present for his granddaughter. I won't ever deal with them again after that.
I hope you healed up well and keep riding mate.
Thanks, I’m getting back into it again. Been out a bit of the last few weeks. Interestingly I got an email from evolve stating “We have discovered a concern with Hadean Bamboo battery cases which requires an immediate physical adjustment. In some situations we have discovered the battery case coming into contact with a component, which has a risk of causing damage resulting in improper operation. Whilst concerns have only been observed on a small minority of boards, all Bamboo Hadean owners must get this battery case adjustment to mitigate the risk before riding your board.” I wonder if that was what happened to my board?
@@SparkyJames That sounds like an excuse to me. The issue was the software, cheap Chinese parts and poor programing. It wasn't the minority but the majority of their boards having serious issues.
Even today, the hadean has a major safety issues and faults. I think it shouldn't be on the market as someone will get themselves killed, if it hasn't happened already.
Did you end up getting a refund and riding safe these days?
Regardless of what anyone says I just purchased Hadean Carbon.
There's only one board I've ever truly been impressed with and that is the lacroix nazare supersport. It's heavy as fuck, but it's quality. No hardware falling out or breaking in the mounts on this puppy. The battery sag is annoying at lower voltages and that's one thing I give mad props to the GTR for, but I'll choose safety every time.
The Nazare supersport is not supposed to have any voltage sag due to using Molicell batteries, the Lonestar supersport has some claims of voltage sag due to using samsung cells at the moment. However there are lots of videos showing proper range achieved on the Lonestar Supersport.... so im not sure what to think at the moment. Maybe just fluke issues with the people that have claimed sag and therefor disappointing range for the Lonestar SS. Comment sections seem to confidently blame the Samsung cells
The GTR and even the hadean have horrible battery sag, my diy gtr with p42a cells same as the nazare supersport pulled so much harder on ATs vs street setups at similar voltages
@@ajplant96 5% battery at 30% and 5% battery at 80% take the same amount of time to drain, no sag for me
@@LORFCASTER hmm well it depends how you look at it, if you are judging it by the percent reading on the stormcore app, it definitely has sag. Gunning it up a hill for a minute straight at 40% battery is going to fuck that shit straight up. By the time you are at 15% you can barely move the thing. I reached out to lacroix for support and they told me the battery percentage is not an accurate way to read this battery, gotta look at voltage or something? Idk. Anyways the range on my nazare supersport at least 1.5x what my GTR AT does so it's enough for me, generally speaking. With rare exception. I just wish there was a smaller charger, I'd gladly wait twice as long for a full charge if I could carry around a GTR sized charger
@@LORFCASTER All batteries have a considerable voltage sag, it's just that molicel p42a have the lowest one. For ex. at 30a per cell the molicel's voltage sag is huge at over 50% of battery's capacity.
Hope you’re ok man!
I’m all good thanks, I suppose I gotta work on my skills a bit, good reminder to be prepared for the unexpected.
Did you buy another Hadean board after returning it?
Have not the same experience won’t be sending mine anywhere but on more rides
Haven't had any issues with mine. Thank god
Update. Battery dies around 30%
They give you a hard time trying to return it? I just had a stoke series 2 try and kill me twice. Locked the brakes full up and threw me off both times. I have 4 other evolves. Never had a problem till now.
No because I got it from JB Hifi. I do have an Evolve Bamboo that I’ve had the longest, and it has been great, except I’ve had to buy 5 remotes for it, I think they might make a phase remote for the Bamboo now.
How's thing going since this video, new esk8 yet?
When it cut out what happen? Did it slam on brakes? How did the board react when it cut out?
It just free rolled, it didn’t lock up, I came off because I was going round a tight s bend. It may actually have cut out sooner (before the bend) but I just didn’t realise immediately.
Wow, so many horror stories about Evolve boards, they can't all be user error! I bought a Verreal RS, done nearly 1,000 km, performed flawlessly!
DIY board comment seems a little uncalled for since a great multitude of them run better than Evolve’s boards
DIY boards tends to need work, ironically I wanted a board that was less work and more reliable. I have 1 dead cell, that I need to repair(my fault when I made it) and it's quite loud, but apart from that pretty good. I just got a new ENNOID XLITE BMS to fit to it as well, and a Davaga X
@@dailyeskate2113 All boards need work, your hadean literally stopped working so everything is affected by maintenance, etc needed. DIY at least some of the work is part of the fun with upgrades, etc.
@@ajplant96 that is true. I had a board that I built with mostly Enertion Skateboard Components when the company was still in business and about 4 years later I had to use components from torque boards to revive it because the motor mounts were starting to go out on the enertion diy kit.
That’s unfortunate mate. Glad it’s only minor injuries. I got my Hadean bamboo a couple days ago and have only rode it for 8kms. I know what u mean but the more sensitive turning 😅 I hope this doesn’t happen to me but I guess it’s a risk you take with any eboard.
It is indeed the risk, but so much fun. Try it with 115mm rubber wheels instead of all-terrain, it's more stable and still has pretty good go-anywhere ability. The onsra and lycon rubber wheels both fit but you will need to get different length belts for the hadean. You can work it out here flowtingwood.com/belt-length-calculator
My experience with Evolve versus DIY, Backfire, Koohweel, Boosted, has been one of surprise and pain. Never have I come across so many board releases from one company, with so many problems, particularly the surprise brakes while cruising at speed. This is far too common, even with the latest gtr carbon, 3/3 separate boards could not go an entire year before fucking up in one way or another. The remotes are flimsy and expensive to replace, the magnets that control the throttle break off inside the remote and cause the board to function in ways that are completely unacceptable for the premium price you pay. Personally, I would never ever spend my hard earned money on an evolve skateboard, they are fucking dangerous, unreliable, and expensive.
You've had the hadean for over a month now, what do you think ? Any issues ? Notice anything wrong at all ? like, even a weird noise.
@@LORFCASTER yes I’ve been riding regularly for just over a month. Functionality wise the board runs super smooth, no weird noise or nothing. Absolutely love the ride.
I did have a bad fall going 44km/h because I was being stupid and had the death wobbles. Slammed the controller down into the pavement really hard. Controller Still works fine with only minor scratches 😅
To be honest the only problem I had was the LED lights didn’t work properly. Weak power outage. Returned it to evolve and they fixed the problem free of charge.
@@Jeppyboi83 Thankyou !!! Extremely helpful
Got GTR carbon, same thing happened, and it’s literally always something wrong with the board, cost $500-$700 extra every year to make it run. Evolve sucks!!!
Sorry for that man.
I had similar issue with my meepo. The board locked wheels for a second and then the speed accelerated fast , i almost fell. Second time the board just turned off. That’s why my max is 22mph and average speed is 17mph
Sucks that had to happen dude! Too bad it wasn’t what you expected. I hope it doesn’t happen to me.
I've had my GTR for over a year with zero problems, and over 1000km so hopefully my incidence with the hadean it a minority, evolve does contribute inovation to the community so I hope issues like this are limited.
@@dailyeskate2113 I hope so too!
@@dailyeskate2113 I had a GTR for a couple of years and after the first 10 months got major issues, could have killed me. Pissed off at this company because it got repaired with fresh hardware in the motors and I had a screw break inside the motor. Similar issue caused esc to overheat and brakes locked 100% while riding. I mean 100% lock, board smoking, wheels would not unlock even once I turned the board off, something seriously fucked with their design. I heard this was a safety feature so the board doesn't keep rolling if you are going downhill, and all I can say is that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of and these idiots need to get replaced by smarter people. I know how to footbrake, and on a board as light as the GTR it's super easy to do, I would way, WAYYY rather have the thing keep rolling
@@solomonjenkins9505 Old thread here but thought id chime in cause it happened to me on GTR top speed wheels locked rag dolled for 15 feet . I could barely walk the mile to my home . major road rash ...i was lucky . Motor controller issue. I ride a Hadean Bamboo AT today ...just love it!
@@martinsimpson2231 I'm surprised you'd buy another product from them after that experience man. I've heard too many such issues on the GTR. I got the new phaze remote anyway so at least I don't have to worry about my remote crumbling in my hand, and I figure I'll still ride it, but I'm just not going to really trust it that much...
How shameful, that’s brutal, and it’s a shame. But it reminds me there’s always a risk when you do that!
Yeah, it's almost inevitable. I think the thing to keep in mind is where you're riding. If you are on the road in amongst cars it could be pretty serious, and I could have little to do with lack of skill.
Very sad! I have heard a ton of reports about the Exway Atlas having motor and battery problems not to mention motor lock-ups. Could it be that you crashed the board by your owning doing and now just want to be able to return it?
I did at first think had had simply fallen, and falling off isn’t the reason I returned it. The problem is that as soon as it happened the board would not turn on, power up again so it was unusable. It was at 80% charge, and has no physical damage at all. And the thought of sending a 10 day old product back the the manufacturer and waiting to get it repaired and sent back is crazy, and I will add a problem I sure all esk8 brands probably have to unfortunately deal with to some degree as you mentioned in your comment. So under Australian consumer law you can return a product for refund and reasonable cost incurred for a major failure.(in my case shipping) I still have my GTR for now and my DIY board too.
Sound like evolve employee of the year, 'yeah it's user error mate, next, oh they're dead? Next'
@@contorta960 This profile calling user error has popped up in a few different Evolve critical (honest) vids, p sure it’s their video guy at this point 😂
Seriously Evolve fans are just laughably embarrassing. Their garbage overpriced board has issues then tries and deflect saying the atlas is having the issues that the Hadyan is actually having. What a tool lol.
Prediction. evolve is out of business within 3 years. Never learned to Evolve.
@@contorta960 You sound depressed. Hope you will feel better soon. I called Evolve about this video. Yes, you can actually call Evolve. Try that with Meepo...
I hate evolve because I have similar problem . But I drive with 35 km and my battery going off and the the bambooo stop like I put brake . They not believe me and do not care very shit support .
Sadly is spelled with one d.
Bushings, bushings, bushing……. Bro. Get double barrel bushings.
I THINK ITS YOU NOT THE BOARD
evolve is a disgusting company, worst customer service, shitty failing products... the bamboo boards crack and all boards have cutoff issues. unusable for city cruising where a cutoff and throwoff can mean death by going under a car.