i actually bought one of these specifically to smash on stage at a big show i was part of. BUT, out of the box, i couldnt bring myself to destroy it. it played beautifully, it sounds devine and i cant fault it. never loses tune, was even intonated strait outa the box. the finish was superb, action was perfect. in a blind test with 3 other guitarists from other bands, it was hands down a better sound than my actual gibson lp. i still use it and i did once think about re stickering it, but i decided to proudly play my $230 chibson. its still my fav guitar outa my 2 expensive gibsons and 2 strats. ive looked for one since but cant find a website anymore here in australia for another chibo. (also bought a $130 fake strat called econau from ebay years ago with amp, stand and accessories, also a very nice guitar once i set the action on the bridge, litterally 10 minutes work) theres so much to be said about cheap guitars, i feel a bit ripped off paying 5 grand for my les paul. i love the LP and strats, dont get me wrong, but i feel the world has been bamboozled by fender and gibson.
@@ULTIMATEPATCHES had it 10+ years, spent less on it than my fenders. cant really say the components have failed yet. but have replaced 2 tuners and 2 tone knobs on a strat that is half the age of the cheapy. i doubt ya can seriously say the cheapies are bad value for any reason. considering all fender parts are chinese. bith my cheapies are still 100% as bought and still perfect. if youre putting them down without owning one, then youre an overpaid brand warrior who only uses high end stuff even if its inferior. and i gotta say, fender seems quite inferior to the 100 buck guitars.
Not only are fender and gibson overpriced for what they offer, the markup is also insane where I am. I could get a decent entry level Cort, Ibanez, or Yamaha for less than the squier sonic telecaster. Chinese brands are even cheaper
THE BEST Les Paul for the money is an AGILE. Hands down great finish, you can set them up perfect! Yep, may need a small amount of fret clean up, yep, the electronics are ok, but could use an upgrade, but with a true full 3/4 maple cap, ebony fretboard, grover tuners these are awesome. Never will i buy a Gibson or Fender, way overrated and overpriced!
@@mathewfoley1531 yeah for sure, since writing that comment, I've pulled out the econau Strat and giving it a screaming revival. It's brilliant. Mines still how I got it of eBay years ago. Nothing new on it.
This was a totally awesome video. I appreciate you showing us how to spot a fake. Absolutely enjoyed the way you went through everything and pointed out the flaws. I am amazed at the solid maple in this fake. Thanks again for sharing.
At the end of the day it all comes down to the feel, playability and sound of the guitar. I came across Chibson last year and it felt really good and sounded very similar to a REAL Gibson. Yes these fakes are just wrong, but on a pure value for money level they are much better value than Gibson (most of the time).
You can tell plainly on the right side of the pickup cavity its a veneer. Also, the neck binding doesnt have fret knibs. The angle of the headstock. Dead give away. Actually nitro finish?
A decent review. That being said, I've never met a craftsman who wasn't critical of another's work. It's like you getting the plumber in, and he says, "Who did this then?"
@@joshs.5384 someday? They basically already are. A real supreme is better than this. But this compsred to a real standard. This is almost as good. Change hardware and put some wolftone or lollar pickups and boom. And im a gibson guy till death do us part. But damn. They are killing me
You can see that he chipped the finish off the top between the neck and the pickup rout. He shaved too many times when it was already clear it was a maple top. The owner may have given permission but I doubt he wanted him to chip the finish off the top!
Axe Slinger I’m just not seeing that, wherever you’re looking. The pickup trim ring buts right up to the neck anyway. It would have to otherwise the crappy stain job would be evident. 😆 Now, when he started in on the *other* side...
It was clearly a veneer, if you look at the side of the pickup hole. He wouldn't have seen it from where he was standing, but you can tell a 1/16 line.
I'd love to see a video on real vs. fake Rickenbacker basses. I know of several people who thought they were buying the real thing only to wind up with a cheap copy - that they paid a lot of money for. I couldn't tell just by looking at it them that they were fakes - which is scary!
Fender started all this in the 70s. They got Uncle Mat to make their guitars cheaper than was possible in the US. When they actually figured out the damage this would do to the brand, they renamed the US/Euro market ones 'Squier'. But the cat was out of the bag.
Dig your show!! I think you do a great job educating antique pickers like me! I've seen a couple of Chibson videos now and think I'll be able to tell which is what. The most obvious being the back of the guitar. Until recently, I've bought and sold mostly electric guitars.. I've sold 3 or 4 Les Paul's. Glad I never bought a Chibson by accident! Liked what you said about buying Chibsons to learn the Luther's Art. Absolutely love your show!
It’s 2020, and I just got my first Chibson, a 59 custom black beauty. It’s gorgeous, and I found only one QC issue. A small sliver on the fretboard, only a small flaw that’s hard to see, and doesn’t effect play. The truss rod is wrong, but it’s a two way, and works as well. I have a crappy little amp at the house, and it sounds fine for my home use. I’ve been playing for a while, and this is a quality guitar.
Slash is a multi millionaire and wouldn't buy a Chibson his guitars are custom built to his secs for sure could you see him playing a concert with a hundred dollar guitar ?
Aubrey Dana You do know Gibson sells guitars as fast as they can make them right? Let me guess you don’t even own a Gibson? I didn’t think so. Broke ass!
M L Haha!! I actually play three nights a week. I don’t just play in my bedroom like some people. I’m not rich I save my money. I know that’s a crazy concept. Have fun playing your FAKE Gibson.
BenS123 I dont own any Gibsons. I’d buy a PRS or almost anything else before a Gibson. I like them but theyre just way overpriced for what they are. I’d consider buying an older model
Truth be told - I think it's a brilliant tinkering project. I love getting el cheapo guitars, disassembling them and doing everything that much more expensive guitars have. By the time I'm done it's still cheaper than the higher spec model, but much more to my own liking.
I must've gotten really lucky. I bought a Gibson LP Furure Tribute new from a Musicians Friend blowout sale for $500 bucks and it's pretty much flawless.
XD PLEASE QUIT YOUR JOB AND GET ONE MORE YOUR LEVEL OF APTITUDE. LIKE WASHING HOTWHEELS CARS. you aren't capable of washing real cars. stick to your toys cause you are going to fucking ruin all sorts of people's gear/
First sensible remark I previously watched a review where a professional had one of these for a year and only issue was a 3 way switch ( less than a £5). Guitar sounded amazing and not even 10th of the price of a genuine ha ha poor quality Usa Gibson.
@@keithlacey9281 Chinese guitars are garbage , If garbage makes you smile ... GREAT !! You are easily amused. You not only get a cheap piece of crap with chinese guitars , but you are able to PARTICIPATE , and SUPPORT chinas human rights abuses !!
@@markconnell7723 virtually all brands of guitars and amp's are made in China, virtually everything we use is made in China especially technology iPhone being one of the many phones. So before you attempt to give me ear ache think a little more.
@@markconnell7723 you obviously don't like ibanez epiphone, Fender Squire, Jackson, schector, Prs se, tanglewood, Vintage, etc all made in China and Indonesia
I think the neck may be correctly set and aligned with the bridge - but the top lamination/veneer is off-center. You know how a glue-up can drift when two large flat surfaces are glued together? Once the two surfaces make full contact, they are almost immediately impossible to move further and/or there may have been a surface blemish that forced the layout for rough-cut slightly off-center.
about Chinese quality overall… an acquaintance is an engineer that works for a company that sells vessels for containing gases like liquid nitrogen. These look like submarines. we had several appointments canceled because he had to go to China to oversee installations of these liquid, natural gas and liquid nitrogen vessels.. The third time he called to cancel our appointment to meet while he was on a plane, flying back to China.. I have been holding a motorcycle. He wanted to buy from me for about seven weeks at that point. I was getting a little anxious about this because they’re not sold until they were gone and I was turning down calls of people that wanted to see it. I asked him right out, what is so important in China that you have to go there at the drop of a hat sometimes. he explained it this way. he said here in the United States, and in many other countries, kids grow up, helping dad work on the car, or the lawnmower, they grow up, using tools in this country, and in some other countries. They grow up and they have a practical mechanical start in life. in China, they do not commonly have that type of experience starting at a young age. They are more likely to have grown up, using a broom or a shovel from a young age. when they go to college, they still have not had practical, hands-on experience many times working with mechanical things. when they graduate from college with their degrees in engineering, many times, they build things to a “good enough “standard.. like harbor, freight tools. They’re not great tools, sometimes they’re not even average. Many times they are crude below average tools. But they’re good enough. that is the acceptable standard of quality in China, good enough is good enough for them.. BUT--when you are talking about high pressure, large vessels containing dangerous gases, that standard cannot be adhered to. Good enough is not good enough, that’s why I go to China regularly to oversee installation / operation of our vessels…
It is a very old term. The toilet seats, that it refers to, were very popular in the 50s. Danny Gatton uses the term in one of his instructional videos (in the 90s), to describe a Telecaster that was made for Danny in the Fender Custom Shop. That guitar was covered in a mosaic, made of MOTS.
The bridge is not backwards. The Gibson abr-1 with the wire goes on screw heads facing neck. The Nashville bridge goes on screw heads facing stop piece. That is a abr-1 (knock-off) so it is in the correct position.
Which is why some luthiers 'diss' Gibson quite a lot. You can get a hand-built instrument to your spec from a craftsman for the price of an off-the-peg Gibbo. Once you can ween yourself off the romance of the Gibson name you can get much better value or much better quality.
NICK nikki So? Chinese guitars aren't bad at all once the regulations have been cranked up. Back in the 80's and 90's when China was still a peipheral country the quality was utter horseshit due to low costs. But take a look at the Classic Vibe 50's and 60's, they're almost equal to a MiM strat but for $200 less.
+Richard Jagger Are there honestly people who don't know that Gibsons are mass produced? I don't understand your point. You might as well inform us that Nike shoes are also mass produced.
I'd take that fake anyday, it has a great wood, so I would only slap in a couple of gibson burstbuckers, gotoh tuners, bridge, potetiometers and 3-way switch and would have a kick ass guitar to play @ home. I mean, I can see how it's wrong to sell those fakes as an original gibson, this is absolutely wrong, but to have this as a cheap project guitar to play at home is something I can vouch for. (I would as them to write CHIBSON on the headstock, would look great xD)
So? And if the Chinese used wood which is protected by CITES? The US Customs will tear your a** apart. The Chinese give a shit about severe deforestation, they are the cause.
I cannot believe that you watch this video and see the faults of this guitar. Then come away believing that this SUPREME P.O.S.would make a decent guitar. These guitars are total trash. Just find a decent lower priced guitar.
Better add a refret and some way to fill those massive body cavities to your long list of fixes! And the wood looks like basswood, with a micro-thin veneer, IMO.
Supremes don't have backplates - but the back is rounded like a fiddleback - the body is a lot thicker. . The jack plate is large and oblong and the wiring is stuffed inside the large cavity. The pickup rings are different.
"...and this is Mother of Toilet Seat"... right as I had just taken a full bong rip, and then he has to say something hilarious totally deadpan out of the blue.
i have a couple of '95 and '97 korean epi lps -- one i got for about $ 65 at a local pawn shop -- that are simply incredible and stack up favorably against the gibsons (no, they really do)...
for anyone reading this post 2019, I picked up a new gibson les paul classic last year and i’m not an expert but I’m very pleased with the quality! I just wanted to say that bc he’s rather hard on gibson in this video. Hopefully they’re back on track!
*Other Flaws: Gibson logo is positioned too high on headstock, Frets ends are not sealed by binding.Serial number was impressed post finish,whereas; all Gibsons are impressed pre-finish.Wrong Font and bad placement of serial number.
This just pisses me off so much. It's bad enough that the actual name brand builders are making cheap products, but to find out how easily you can be burned thinking you've got a name brand solid instrument only to sadly learn you've got a POS knockoff is just too much..
Amazing build quality and sound for the price...and you're never paranoid at a show it might get stolen...unlike the $4000 over priced Gibson which is never worth the build quality nowadays. Got me x4 Chibsons , love them ❤
My last Chibson I kinda had them build it to my specifications. Its "vintage burst quilted maple top), Ebony fretboard w/ the "supreme" inlays. When I got it, I put in a set of seymours, a roller bridge, a tusq nut and schaller tuners. It's amazing. Still 5 years later.. However, I've been buying Harley Bentons lately. Better guitars, costs less and no worries about copyrights etc..
I ordered an all solid wood configuration of Koa top and cocobolo back and sides. It's beautiful and sounds great. I had to do a setup which is typical with most new guitars. The front of the headstock had a black paper. Took it off and it had Taylor logo and it did have bone nut and saddle. It's beautiful and sounds wonderful. Don't buy Gabriel guitars
So the main give away is the knockoff hardware- Epiphone pickups,shoddy milled faux Grover tuning keys. I even question the "Flaming" maple wood. Even though the body was a type of wood of sorts(not maple),the tool scored across the wood far too easily for it to be a hardwood like maple. Anyone proficient with the application of wood stain could replicate the surface finish,making it appear as though it were that type of wood. I didn't see any wood grain in the pickup cut out section, that would indicate it was maple. I would take a magnifying glass to look for signs the stain bled into the lower surface. Thanks.
I have a Les Paul copy. The only thing original is the body and BOLT ON neck. All parts were replaced by high quality parts. It plays better and easier than any Gibson I've ever played.
I recently purchased a solo lp35 kit guitar because the quality of material was better than the current LP built by Lp. Mind you, I did have to upgrade the hardware, but the end result was a solid mahogany guitar that with a little work is comparable to what LP used to build. Just my opinion. And I put my name on the headstock so there will never be an issue of who what where or when.
That is a very valid option and how many cheaper guitars are these days.. very very good construction and materials with cheap parts.. long may your modded guitar bring you joy! B
Pickups-Epiphoney, Tuners-Imitation. I'll just bet that this guitar in the states would cost 2-3 thousand dollars more. So someone please tell me what places like Sweetwater is selling then? What do I do? Buy a Les Paul for 2500 dollars and take it apart to check the pickups?
But how is the sound? I do not care so much about original/copy or what not,if the handling and the sound is right.... Sometime you just pay for the brand.
If a person takes into consideration the outrageous cost of a real Gibson, at around three to six grand. or you can buy a Chibson that is as decently built as that one. and add Gibson part's to it and have yourself a decent guitar. I say go for it after all you only have to wrestle with yourself, and to hell with Gibson.
Id buy one of these for £230.00. Does it really matter what name it says on it, its an awesome piece of craftman/craftwomanship (despite the dodgy hardware) and an absolute steal for that price. I have a Gibson SG Copy and it says Gibson on it so does that make it morally wrong because i made it?....I think it highlights the fact that Gibson charge a premium price for a guitar that could be much cheaper considering their guitars are mass produced and the quality is not much higher than these Chinese ones..and i bet the Chibson neck wont snap as soon as it comes out the case...lol...
Really?? you think the quality of your Chibson or any Chibson is close to a real one?? Too funny.. BTW.......you can buy Gibsons from about 600 bucks on up...It's not as if they don't make inexpensive models, but keep in mind, Gibson is also a business! As a business their job is NOT to make guitars and give them away because some folks are too poor or just too cheap to buy one..... It's not any different with PRS, Fender or Nash or any US builder making quality guitars.. if ya want a Gibson buy one.. It will last a lifetime and then some.. If not buy something else..Gibson won't mind....... if you goal in life is too buy and play cheap guitars that's fine, but don't think that the piece of crap you bought is a Gibson or that it is even marginally as good as one! Cause it's not! That would be delusional.........That's why PRO's don't buy Chibsons! ..........(they like to save money too). Geez for 400 bucks you can get an EPI or Ibanez which is a lot better built than that POS......The plus side is you get a warranty..and a dealer who'll take it back and you won't have to plug with dowels the holes where they put the bridge and stopbar. They both need to be relocated so the freaking strings line-up. I won't even get into the complete refret and replacement of every part on that guitar that is going to have to be done to make it marginally worth playing! if ya want a project guitar.. You can buy plenty of used cheap guitars (even around 100 bucks) at any guitar shop! And they're from real companies! Remeber.. playing cheap ass guitars, Drinking crummy Bourbon and dating Fugly women!......Is no way to go through life!
Hi Ammo Man. Thanks for replying to me.I saw loads of awesome craftsman/womanship in that guitar, i just looked at it with an open mind. I also wished i could build that guitar for the same price and feed my family from the profit too as thats what makes it a master piece. Best wishes Ammo Man.
You chiseled in the wrong place...you chiseled east and west on the pickup cavity....if you chiseled north or south you will see the thin veneer...savvy? check it out....One can see it at the camera angle but you could not because you were over top of it...Cheers from America...
getredytagetredy , I thought I was the only one who noticed that he was chiseling the end of the neck, not the edge of the body. Lol. And this guy "builds guitars".
Mike Forrester Hahahahaha...yes simple mistake.BTW...why would fakery clowns put a 1/2 inch piece of carved flame maple on a piece doo-doo...?....what pisses me off is frauds and fakery...
No problem since it costs $200 and who is buying it knows that it's a replica. The problem is when someone pays 50x this price believing that it's the real thing.
I Notice the Chibson body has a lot of wavy finish sanding. Although I own a Gibson base Studio model satin tobacco burst with no clear coat. The factory finish is flawless
Usually the bridges don't line up with American gibson bridges because metric vs imperial theyre out by a couple of mm so the fakes can't have a real gibson bridge
It is probably made from Epiphone 2nd parts that failed qc , it would explain things like misalignment, The issue with OEM manufactures is that in china (they are not owned by the nameplates e.g Gibson/epiphone) so when the factories spin down because they met production quota, they are often refit to quickly to produce a different product, however sometime OEM factory runners can at times spin them right back up and spit out several "fakes" because the production line is already set, they just change a few parts and use some of the 2nds that were cast off as unusable to meet client specs e.g. Epiphone(likely the case with the body), so often many "fakes" are made in the exact same factory. That might be the case here.
Slash used a Chibson for a few years and also recorded appetite for destruction with it. Can you imagine the quality of that guitar? Maybe better but also maybe a lot worse than the fakes out there these days.
I do believe that it’s an unspoken rule,,,that when you get a chipson is Be prepared to purchase everything but the wood and the finish. But with saying that. Once installed it will play significantly better. Thus fooling the masses,
Not really a plot twist. A lot “high end” manufacturers are going way cheaper than they should, while some new comers are getting better quality and quality control while still being cheaper than the “high end” brands.
I really wonder.... it would be interesting to try and chase down the distribution chain from the seller of this one to the manufacturer and see if you end up at a Gibson factory.
For $230, I'd buy a Gibson. *(Lots of people misunderstanding my comment. That was my way of saying I don't like the sound of Gibson guitars, and wouldn't pay much for one if I were ever interested. They sound a bit harsh or unpleasant to my ear. Let the Gibson fan-boy flaming begin.)*
To my eye, that's not a solid flamed maple top...look at the side of the pickup hole around 14:00 and see if you can also spot the laminate. Great video, though, thanks!
cheap Les Paul copies were often made this way back in the '70's, Ibanez being one company who resorted to it, though some were non-laminated, glued-in neck jobs that were awfully good.
Tatts are no longer being sported by bikers and rough types. Everyone has them nowadays, even my 40 year old eldest daughter and good luck to her and anyone else feels like a tattoo. I might get one too I'm 64 and a crappy musician now that's two good reasons to mark up my skin. Oh yes,..also mine won't fade before I'm dead..
Tuonelan Joutsen My mistake...it was Teisco Del Ray (I think his real name is Dan Forte) who first said it, reviewing 'el cheapo' guitars in Musician magazine in the early 80's. He later had a column in Guitar Player, then went on to the editorial staff. Art followed, as a column writer for off the wall guitars, then as a editorial staff member.
or its rejects from along the line, made to counterfiets to recoup the loss (thus the flaws) , or student guitars where they found a way to resell them and recoup costs, (thus the flaws)
You look kinda intimidating with your head tattoos and shaved head, but then you start talking and have a voice of a true gentleman that has dedicated his life to making others feel welcome and safe in his presence Shame on me and my prejudices
I imagine fixing the orientation of the bridge, replacing the tuners, and checking the setup would be a good start. I suspect with the original tuners it'd sound pretty awful.
That is not the most important thing at all. The fact is it was sold deceptively as something that it is not. Dishonesty is dishonesty no matter how you slice it. If you can't sell something on its own merit then you are a crook. Love or hate Gibson, this is a blow up doll.
I have six of these and all had the bridge pickups were changed to EMG 81’s with Grover tuners. Not one person has called them out as fake yet. I eventually tell them they’re all fake and it blows their minds. I did bring one to a guitar shop here locally to have the fretboard reworked and it did take the guy a few minutes to look at it before suspecting it being fake. I joked with him and said I paid $3k for it at guitar center. He changed his mind and then said “maybe I’m wrong”. I then told him it’s a fake and when he took off the back coffin case plate he recognized it immediately with the bad woodwork underneath. It was the first time he had personally actually seen one of the infamous “Chibsons” and was impressed.
Yes, this tells me not to fall asleep in front of the TV after a heavy meal that included libations. My bald head will be redecorated by a diaper Da Vinci.
Right. That's the main criteria I used for the last guitar I bought. Of course the tuners and string distance from the frets had to be right. I ended up buying a high end Garrison over a low end Gibson. I just liked the feel and sound of the thing.
@@Jeff-ik9zj those fake Gibson's are not made in Epiphone Factory nor are they made with Epiphone parts and any of them stamped with Epiphone on the back of the pickups are counterfeit it's just like the counterfeit Grover tuners.
+Carl Valentin Is that why?? Wow wtf gibson ever heard of quality control. Was wondering cos I was actually checking how much a LP went for recently and noticed there was just no gibsons. I've head good things about their Harley benton LP copys though
+Pauly Mack Thomann sold a lot of custom-guitars specially made for them by gibson, called "faded","tribute" ... These "original" gibsons went for 500-700 bucks and had poor qualty. European Ebay is full of these guitars. Gibsons-prices for standards and custom-shops may have helped to end their cooperation. And Zero-frets and electric tuners are not everbodys taste of guitars. They try to fill this segment wit Tokai, Düsenberg, PRS I think.
+Carl Valentin I've just bought a Tokia Love Rock from Thomann just yesterday. I've also got a Tokai Breezy Sound Telecaster copy. This plays better and sounds nicer than all the Fender Telecasters I've had in the past. Hope the Love Rock Les Paul is as good.
Oh yeah, the world can ow go on because you have a real Les Paul. I hope you're precious Less Paul gets stolen from you and you never get it back. I'd punch you in the throat if I could.
the kerning in the "Grover" machine heads are a classic example of : it would have been the same price to make it nice! While much of Gibson copying is all about materials and saving costs, this video highlights the fact that the copy houses have been garnering luthier skills and experience over the last few decades and that even with cheaper materials a fine instrument can be had delivered in a hard case for little cost.
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If you drop it slightly and the neck breaks off then it means it’s real
Yeah, that's the way they test them.
Hehehehehe👍
Lol
Then iets real broken
Hardly.
i actually bought one of these specifically to smash on stage at a big show i was part of. BUT, out of the box, i couldnt bring myself to destroy it. it played beautifully, it sounds devine and i cant fault it. never loses tune, was even intonated strait outa the box. the finish was superb, action was perfect. in a blind test with 3 other guitarists from other bands, it was hands down a better sound than my actual gibson lp. i still use it and i did once think about re stickering it, but i decided to proudly play my $230 chibson. its still my fav guitar outa my 2 expensive gibsons and 2 strats. ive looked for one since but cant find a website anymore here in australia for another chibo. (also bought a $130 fake strat called econau from ebay years ago with amp, stand and accessories, also a very nice guitar once i set the action on the bridge, litterally 10 minutes work) theres so much to be said about cheap guitars, i feel a bit ripped off paying 5 grand for my les paul. i love the LP and strats, dont get me wrong, but i feel the world has been bamboozled by fender and gibson.
@@ULTIMATEPATCHES had it 10+ years, spent less on it than my fenders. cant really say the components have failed yet. but have replaced 2 tuners and 2 tone knobs on a strat that is half the age of the cheapy. i doubt ya can seriously say the cheapies are bad value for any reason. considering all fender parts are chinese. bith my cheapies are still 100% as bought and still perfect. if youre putting them down without owning one, then youre an overpaid brand warrior who only uses high end stuff even if its inferior. and i gotta say, fender seems quite inferior to the 100 buck guitars.
Not only are fender and gibson overpriced for what they offer, the markup is also insane where I am. I could get a decent entry level Cort, Ibanez, or Yamaha for less than the squier sonic telecaster. Chinese brands are even cheaper
THE BEST Les Paul for the money is an AGILE. Hands down great finish, you can set them up perfect! Yep, may need a small amount of fret clean up, yep, the electronics are ok, but could use an upgrade, but with a true full 3/4 maple cap, ebony fretboard, grover tuners these are awesome. Never will i buy a Gibson or Fender, way overrated and overpriced!
Econau strat it's awesome
@@mathewfoley1531 yeah for sure, since writing that comment, I've pulled out the econau Strat and giving it a screaming revival. It's brilliant. Mines still how I got it of eBay years ago. Nothing new on it.
Workers in China watching, taking notes for the correction of the next batch
They don't need to - they're made quick and cheap, and they have enough dumb customers to keep them in business.
@@andytraverse who’s really the dumb ones here, the people who spend 3k plus on a guitar, or the guy who can buy one that looks identical for 300
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I'm looking to buy the Elvis Gibson for display only
My Chibson from 5 years ago is going strong Spent one year in storage just got it back. Needed new strings. Nothing fallen off, twisted or broken.!
If they fix all these issues, their QC would be better than Gibson proper
You really redeemed yourself at the end of Thor: Ragnarok.
Very funny!
Ha! He was!!!
Hilarious!!!
Bahahaha! You sir win the internet today.
If Skurge went "shaky cam" on some asses, maybe he'd have lived.
This was a totally awesome video. I appreciate you showing us how to spot a fake. Absolutely enjoyed the way you went through everything and pointed out the flaws. I am amazed at the solid maple in this fake. Thanks again for sharing.
If you need to go through all that to spot a fake Gibson,then maybe you should just take a guitar player with you next time to the store... 😳
CaSayVopWochoot4faks!
At the end of the day it all comes down to the feel, playability and sound of the guitar. I came across Chibson last year and it felt really good and sounded very similar to a REAL Gibson. Yes these fakes are just wrong, but on a pure value for money level they are much better value than Gibson (most of the time).
You can tell plainly on the right side of the pickup cavity its a veneer. Also, the neck binding doesnt have fret knibs. The angle of the headstock. Dead give away. Actually nitro finish?
@@nicholasdufek8944 Yes, I'm surprised he didn't mention the fret nibs. I'm pretty sure these fakes don't have nitro finishes.
There are much better guitars than this one on the market. Strange that you don't see any videos about them.
Great review Sir, do you have any information about the fret board? Is it engineered wood?
@@markcheetah4960 I was pretty sure I saw stain bleed in the pick up hole. So I think you're right. Good eye
A decent review. That being said, I've never met a craftsman who wasn't critical of another's work. It's like you getting the plumber in, and he says, "Who did this then?"
“For the inlay they used mother of toilet seat!” 😂😂😂 I just cracked up laughing! That’s awesome!
And he said Gibson was the same
I'm gonna steal that line 🤣
8:36 - The distance or spacing between letters is called "kerning".
From a former phototypositor.
Adjustments between letter pairs is kerning - broadly though the right term is letterspacing or, synonymously, tracking.
Surely, the spacing between letters is the kern, and kerning is the verb for refining that spacing !
not Mother of phototypositor ?
A kernel is a bit of corn, if that helps...
@@thetessellater9163 Not necessarily: "plating" is both the verb and the metal that has been plated onto the base metal.
There are a tone of chibson videos out now. Has anyone realized that videos breaking them down is the same as posting a training video for them?
Good point. Let's not help anybody get BETTER at this.
True, but if people put out enough of these videos, maybe someday the Chibsons will be even better than Gibsons lol
@@joshs.5384 someday? They basically already are. A real supreme is better than this. But this compsred to a real standard. This is almost as good. Change hardware and put some wolftone or lollar pickups and boom. And im a gibson guy till death do us part. But damn. They are killing me
i brought that point up on a Gibson Les Paul page and they pretty much laughed me out of it. i'm glad someone else thinks this way.
IMO you can give them all the info you want. It still costs money to do things the right way.
I don't know why it bothered me so badly when he was chiseling away at the wood. Just wanted to yell "stop it!!!!"
You can see that he chipped the finish off the top between the neck and the pickup rout. He shaved too many times when it was already clear it was a maple top. The owner may have given permission but I doubt he wanted him to chip the finish off the top!
Axe Slinger I’m just not seeing that, wherever you’re looking. The pickup trim ring buts right up to the neck anyway. It would have to otherwise the crappy stain job would be evident. 😆 Now, when he started in on the *other* side...
It was clearly a veneer, if you look at the side of the pickup hole. He wouldn't have seen it from where he was standing, but you can tell a 1/16 line.
That killed me too!
Curtis Brayfield Yes, I saw that too.
I'd love to see a video on real vs. fake Rickenbacker basses. I know of several people who thought they were buying the real thing only to wind up with a cheap copy - that they paid a lot of money for. I couldn't tell just by looking at it them that they were fakes - which is scary!
Fender started all this in the 70s. They got Uncle Mat to make their guitars cheaper than was possible in the US. When they actually figured out the damage this would do to the brand, they renamed the US/Euro market ones 'Squier'. But the cat was out of the bag.
Dig your show!! I think you do a great job educating antique pickers like me! I've seen a couple of Chibson videos now and think I'll be able to tell which is what.
The most obvious being the back of the guitar.
Until recently, I've bought and sold mostly electric guitars.. I've sold 3 or 4 Les Paul's. Glad I never bought a Chibson by accident!
Liked what you said about buying Chibsons to learn the Luther's Art.
Absolutely love your show!
Ah-ha...sank you mister...we fix these things for our next run of fake Gibsons...I tell boss-man what we must fix. lol
KJS Stewart (OMG 😂😂😂😂😂)!!!
Hahahahaha
It’s 2020, and I just got my first Chibson, a 59 custom black beauty. It’s gorgeous, and I found only one QC issue. A small sliver on the fretboard, only a small flaw that’s hard to see, and doesn’t effect play. The truss rod is wrong, but it’s a two way, and works as well. I have a crappy little amp at the house, and it sounds fine for my home use. I’ve been playing for a while, and this is a quality guitar.
Lmao
Nahh, they wont, it'd take too much time and trouble to all that, besides, they'd have to charge more for it.
slash become famous with a fake gibson... now gibson make a copy of a copy
Slash's guitar wasn't a "Fake" - it was/is a ghost-built Gibson (private builder with Gibson's blessing).
Hahaha. You funny boy.
Slash is a multi millionaire and wouldn't buy a Chibson his guitars are custom built to his secs for sure could you see him playing a concert with a hundred dollar guitar ?
Perry Singer, The poster of this thread means that when Slash was starting out (and would have been a broke struggling artist) he played a fake LP.
Zappa used a sg copy too
I actually spent most of the video drooling over your lovely tool kit. I'm a retired cabinetmaker.
I have a serious weakness for tools.. I also own www.vintagetoolshop.com just so I can get more for my own collection! B
However, I wouldn't say those are $4000 worth of discrepancies. Hence, the problem with Gibson and the demand for these fakes.
Aubrey Dana You do know Gibson sells guitars as fast as they can make them right? Let me guess you don’t even own a Gibson? I didn’t think so. Broke ass!
@@Panic42000 Get better at playing guitar instead of getting better at buying them, Blues lawyer
M L Haha!! I actually play three nights a week. I don’t just play in my bedroom like some people. I’m not rich I save my money. I know that’s a crazy concept. Have fun playing your FAKE Gibson.
BenS123 I dont own any Gibsons. I’d buy a PRS or almost anything else before a Gibson. I like them but theyre just way overpriced for what they are. I’d consider buying an older model
@@Panic42000 why would i buy a Gibson when i could buy a Ibanez or a schecter or a PRS or a fender or a literally any other guitar brand...
Truth be told - I think it's a brilliant tinkering project. I love getting el cheapo guitars, disassembling them and doing everything that much more expensive guitars have.
By the time I'm done it's still cheaper than the higher spec model, but much more to my own liking.
I must've gotten really lucky. I bought a Gibson LP Furure Tribute new from a Musicians Friend blowout sale for $500 bucks and it's pretty much flawless.
You would make the ultimate movie villain.
+liam clemson thank you :)
XD PLEASE QUIT YOUR JOB AND GET ONE MORE YOUR LEVEL OF APTITUDE. LIKE WASHING HOTWHEELS CARS. you aren't capable of washing real cars. stick to your toys cause you are going to fucking ruin all sorts of people's gear/
I total agree 😊 I imagine Ben stroking a white cat and saying: “So, Mr Bond, you want me to build you a guitar, mawawawa?!
Liam CM I
@Toney Bartlett ...good for me...bad for you.
This goes to prove that you are able to buy a very playable guitar for 1/10th the price of one that you have built.
First sensible remark
I previously watched a review where a professional had one of these for a year and only issue was a 3 way switch ( less than a £5).
Guitar sounded amazing and not even 10th of the price of a genuine ha ha poor quality Usa Gibson.
@@keithlacey9281 Chinese guitars are garbage , If garbage makes you smile ... GREAT !! You are easily amused. You not only get a cheap piece of crap with chinese guitars , but you are able to PARTICIPATE , and SUPPORT chinas human rights abuses !!
@@markconnell7723 virtually all brands of guitars and amp's are made in China, virtually everything we use is made in China especially technology iPhone being one of the many phones. So before you attempt to give me ear ache think a little more.
@@markconnell7723 you obviously don't like ibanez epiphone, Fender Squire, Jackson, schector, Prs se, tanglewood, Vintage, etc all made in China and Indonesia
I think the neck may be correctly set and aligned with the bridge - but the top lamination/veneer is off-center. You know how a glue-up can drift when two large flat surfaces are glued together? Once the two surfaces make full contact, they are almost immediately impossible to move further and/or there may have been a surface blemish that forced the layout for rough-cut slightly off-center.
about Chinese quality overall…
an acquaintance is an engineer that works for a company that sells vessels for containing gases like liquid nitrogen. These look like submarines.
we had several appointments canceled because he had to go to China to oversee installations of these liquid, natural gas and liquid nitrogen vessels.. The third time he called to cancel our appointment to meet while he was on a plane, flying back to China.. I have been holding a motorcycle. He wanted to buy from me for about seven weeks at that point. I was getting a little anxious about this because they’re not sold until they were gone and I was turning down calls of people that wanted to see it.
I asked him right out, what is so important in China that you have to go there at the drop of a hat sometimes.
he explained it this way.
he said here in the United States, and in many other countries, kids grow up, helping dad work on the car, or the lawnmower, they grow up, using tools in this country, and in some other countries. They grow up and they have a practical mechanical start in life.
in China, they do not commonly have that type of experience starting at a young age. They are more likely to have grown up, using a broom or a shovel from a young age.
when they go to college, they still have not had practical, hands-on experience many times working with mechanical things.
when they graduate from college with their degrees in engineering, many times, they build things to a “good enough “standard..
like harbor, freight tools. They’re not great tools, sometimes they’re not even average. Many times they are crude below average tools. But they’re good enough.
that is the acceptable standard of quality in China, good enough is good enough for them..
BUT--when you are talking about high pressure, large vessels containing dangerous gases, that standard cannot be adhered to. Good enough is not good enough, that’s why I go to China regularly to oversee installation / operation of our vessels…
It's very interesting to hear the Devil talk about guitars
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@marlene riggs Calm down, Marlene.
marlene is feeling kinda angsty.. Lel
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These are likely "Epiphone's that didn't pass quality tests.
Impossible. Epiphone uses a completely different shape on their headstock.
@@batvette I wonder if they’re Gibsons being passed off as fake?
"The inlays are mother of toilet seat..." Can I use that quote everytime I describe fake MOP inlays? :D
It is a very old term. The toilet seats, that it refers to, were very popular in the 50s. Danny Gatton uses the term in one of his instructional videos (in the 90s), to describe a Telecaster that was made for Danny in the Fender Custom Shop. That guitar was covered in a mosaic, made of MOTS.
This is an official term, wiedely used since the early 2000's, maybe before. So yeah, feel free.
LOL.
@@boboutelama5748 I heard it in the 90s myself.
Those inlays are an easy to check indicator of substandard construction. Man I laughed out loud. That is funny.
The bridge is not backwards. The Gibson abr-1 with the wire goes on screw heads facing neck. The Nashville bridge goes on screw heads facing stop piece. That is a abr-1 (knock-off) so it is in the correct position.
Wake up all Gibson`s are mass produced. There are factory vids on You Tube.
Which is why some luthiers 'diss' Gibson quite a lot. You can get a hand-built instrument to your spec from a craftsman for the price of an off-the-peg Gibbo. Once you can ween yourself off the romance of the Gibson name you can get much better value or much better quality.
+NICK nikki Welcome to marketing.
NICK nikki So? Chinese guitars aren't bad at all once the regulations have been cranked up. Back in the 80's and 90's when China was still a peipheral country the quality was utter horseshit due to low costs. But take a look at the Classic Vibe 50's and 60's, they're almost equal to a MiM strat but for $200 less.
+Richard Jagger Are there honestly people who don't know that Gibsons are mass produced? I don't understand your point. You might as well inform us that Nike shoes are also mass produced.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\AND YOUR POINT IS.
I'd take that fake anyday, it has a great wood, so I would only slap in a couple of gibson burstbuckers, gotoh tuners, bridge, potetiometers and 3-way switch and would have a kick ass guitar to play @ home.
I mean, I can see how it's wrong to sell those fakes as an original gibson, this is absolutely wrong, but to have this as a cheap project guitar to play at home is something I can vouch for. (I would as them to write CHIBSON on the headstock, would look great xD)
So? And if the Chinese used wood which is protected by CITES? The US Customs will tear your a** apart. The Chinese give a shit about severe deforestation, they are the cause.
All it'll end up being is just a wall-hanger when the totally unseasoned wood starts to warp and makes it totally unplayable.
I cannot believe that you watch this video and see the faults of this guitar. Then come away believing that this SUPREME P.O.S.would make a decent guitar. These guitars are total trash. Just find a decent lower priced guitar.
Better add a refret and some way to fill those massive body cavities to your long list of fixes! And the wood looks like basswood, with a micro-thin veneer, IMO.
Can't beat a good wood!!!
Supremes don't have backplates - but the back is rounded like a fiddleback - the body is a lot thicker. . The jack plate is large and oblong and the wiring is stuffed inside the large cavity. The pickup rings are different.
This video is now 8 years old, would love to see an identical made today...
"...and this is Mother of Toilet Seat"... right as I had just taken a full bong rip, and then he has to say something hilarious totally deadpan out of the blue.
i have a couple of '95 and '97 korean epi lps -- one i got for about $ 65 at a local pawn shop -- that are simply incredible and stack up favorably against the gibsons (no, they really do)...
for anyone reading this post 2019, I picked up a new gibson les paul classic last year and i’m not an expert but I’m very pleased with the quality! I just wanted to say that bc he’s rather hard on gibson in this video. Hopefully they’re back on track!
*Other Flaws: Gibson logo is positioned too high on headstock, Frets ends are not sealed by binding.Serial number was impressed post finish,whereas; all Gibsons are impressed pre-finish.Wrong Font and bad placement of serial number.
these days i so prefer my Gretsch
The bottom line is a good workman never blame his tools
This just pisses me off so much. It's bad enough that the actual name brand builders are making cheap products, but to find out how easily you can be burned thinking you've got a name brand solid instrument only to sadly learn you've got a POS knockoff is just too much..
Id rather buy an used epiphone and soup it up. Having a fake branded gibson is distasteful
Nobody counterfits a Yamaha RGX121, just sayin.
Amazing build quality and sound for the price...and you're never paranoid at a show it might get stolen...unlike the $4000 over priced Gibson which is never worth the build quality nowadays. Got me x4 Chibsons , love them ❤
I found the Chinese bot.
Got one and added USA 57s and roller bridge and bone but. Better than my Gibson for about $500 with mods and case.
My last Chibson I kinda had them build it to my specifications. Its "vintage burst quilted maple top), Ebony fretboard w/ the "supreme" inlays. When I got it, I put in a set of seymours, a roller bridge, a tusq nut and schaller tuners. It's amazing. Still 5 years later.. However, I've been buying Harley Bentons lately. Better guitars, costs less and no worries about copyrights etc..
Where can i get one.
You should have tattoos of rabbits on your head, they might then look like hairs from a distances....lol
@Dusko Males "No Regerts" HaHaHaHa... now that's funny!! Have a snickers mate!!!
Sorry that's a veneer over a maple cap. The way you can tell, for sure, and without a chisel is by looking at the receipt.
Plot twist, its an actual Gibson Supreme made in U.S.A.
The Frets are 'supposed " to be Gold. The fake trys with ludiqus effect. I had one of those years ago with the Gibsom Stuff routed off,
I ordered an all solid wood configuration of Koa top and cocobolo back and sides. It's beautiful and sounds great. I had to do a setup which is typical with most new guitars. The front of the headstock had a black paper. Took it off and it had Taylor logo and it did have bone nut and saddle. It's beautiful and sounds wonderful.
Don't buy Gabriel guitars
So the main give away is the knockoff hardware- Epiphone pickups,shoddy milled faux Grover tuning keys. I even question the "Flaming" maple wood. Even though the body was a type of wood of sorts(not maple),the tool scored across the wood far too easily for it to be a hardwood like maple. Anyone proficient with the application of wood stain could replicate the surface finish,making it appear as though it were that type of wood. I didn't see any wood grain in the pickup cut out section, that would indicate it was maple. I would take a magnifying glass to look for signs the stain bled into the lower surface. Thanks.
I have a Les Paul copy. The only thing original is the body and BOLT ON neck. All parts were replaced by high quality parts. It plays better and easier than any Gibson I've ever played.
I recently purchased a solo lp35 kit guitar because the quality of material was better than the current LP built by Lp. Mind you, I did have to upgrade the hardware, but the end result was a solid mahogany guitar that with a little work is comparable to what LP used to build. Just my opinion. And I put my name on the headstock so there will never be an issue of who what where or when.
That is a very valid option and how many cheaper guitars are these days.. very very good construction and materials with cheap parts.. long may your modded guitar bring you joy! B
Gibson Supreme. There's an oxymoron!
wow I didn't know Kerry King had his own yt channel
this guy's cool...KK is a dick
Looked him up.Terrifying guy.
+JopesTV shut up
Pickups-Epiphoney, Tuners-Imitation. I'll just bet that this guitar in the states would cost 2-3 thousand dollars more.
So someone please tell me what places like Sweetwater is selling then? What do I do? Buy a Les Paul for 2500 dollars and take it apart to check the pickups?
But how is the sound? I do not care so much about original/copy or what not,if the handling and the sound is right.... Sometime you just pay for the brand.
Love your weapons cabinet filled with medieval axes and stuff
On my genuine supreme, neck bindings goes up to the frets. It’s like the binding follows the frets, if you know what i mean. Thanks for this video
If a person takes into consideration the outrageous cost of a real Gibson, at around three to six grand. or you can buy a Chibson that is as decently built as that one. and add Gibson part's to it and have yourself a decent guitar. I say go for it after all you only have to wrestle with yourself, and to hell with Gibson.
Id buy one of these for £230.00. Does it really matter what name it says on it, its an awesome piece of craftman/craftwomanship (despite the dodgy hardware) and an absolute steal for that price.
I have a Gibson SG Copy and it says Gibson on it so does that make it morally wrong because i made it?....I think it highlights the fact that Gibson charge a premium price for a guitar that could be much cheaper considering their guitars are mass produced and the quality is not much higher than these Chinese ones..and i bet the Chibson neck wont snap as soon as it comes out the case...lol...
Really?? you think the quality of your Chibson or any Chibson is close to a real one?? Too funny.. BTW.......you can buy Gibsons from about 600 bucks on up...It's not as if they don't make inexpensive models, but keep in mind, Gibson is also a business! As a business their job is NOT to make guitars and give them away because some folks are too poor or just too cheap to buy one.....
It's not any different with PRS, Fender or Nash or any US builder making quality guitars.. if ya want a Gibson buy one.. It will last a lifetime and then some.. If not buy something else..Gibson won't mind....... if you goal in life is too buy and play cheap guitars that's fine, but don't think that the piece of crap you bought is a Gibson or that it is even marginally as good as one! Cause it's not! That would be delusional.........That's why PRO's don't buy Chibsons! ..........(they like to save money too).
Geez for 400 bucks you can get an EPI or Ibanez which is a lot better built than that POS......The plus side is you get a warranty..and a dealer who'll take it back and you won't have to plug with dowels the holes where they put the bridge and stopbar. They both need to be relocated so the freaking strings line-up. I won't even get into the complete refret and replacement of every part on that guitar that is going to have to be done to make it marginally worth playing!
if ya want a project guitar.. You can buy plenty of used cheap guitars (even around 100 bucks) at any guitar shop! And they're from real companies!
Remeber.. playing cheap ass guitars, Drinking crummy Bourbon and dating Fugly women!......Is no way to go through life!
Rodney Howe Awesome craftsmanship?
The whole video was showing the shitty craftsmanship. The Chinese must love your dumb ass LOL
Hi Ammo Man. Thanks for replying to me.I saw loads of awesome craftsman/womanship in that guitar, i just looked at it with an open mind.
I also wished i could build that guitar for the same price and feed my family from the profit too as thats what makes it a master piece.
Best wishes Ammo Man.
This guy looks like a hard core version of Ashens
Billy H. I knew he looked familiar
“Mother of toilet seat” hahahaha
bout the same quality as a real gibson! :)
Hah!
I can't stop thinking about how your head tattoo session went...
You chiseled in the wrong place...you chiseled east and west on the pickup cavity....if you chiseled north or south you will see the thin veneer...savvy? check it out....One can see it at the camera angle but you could not because you were over top of it...Cheers from America...
getredytagetredy , I thought I was the only one who noticed that he was chiseling the end of the neck, not the edge of the body. Lol. And this guy "builds guitars".
Mike Forrester Hahahahaha...yes simple mistake.BTW...why would fakery clowns put a 1/2 inch piece of carved flame maple on a piece doo-doo...?....what pisses me off is frauds and fakery...
Getredytagetredy So right you are! I reviewed the vid, and see its veneer. Well, he’s not building a guitar for me.
No problem since it costs $200 and who is buying it knows that it's a replica. The problem is when someone pays 50x this price believing that it's the real thing.
A “Gibson” for doctors / lawyers who got their degree in the Dominican Republic 😂
I Notice the Chibson body has a lot of wavy finish sanding. Although I own a Gibson base Studio model satin tobacco burst with no clear coat. The factory finish is flawless
Grover is the Dutch word for "more coarse" or "more rude". The fake ones are grover than the Grover tuners.
Usually the bridges don't line up with American gibson bridges because metric vs imperial theyre out by a couple of mm so the fakes can't have a real gibson bridge
It is probably made from Epiphone 2nd parts that failed qc , it would explain things like misalignment, The issue with OEM manufactures is that in china (they are not owned by the nameplates e.g Gibson/epiphone) so when the factories spin down because they met production quota, they are often refit to quickly to produce a different product, however sometime OEM factory runners can at times spin them right back up and spit out several "fakes" because the production line is already set, they just change a few parts and use some of the 2nds that were cast off as unusable to meet client specs e.g. Epiphone(likely the case with the body), so often many "fakes" are made in the exact same factory. That might be the case here.
Slash used a Chibson for a few years and also recorded appetite for destruction with it. Can you imagine the quality of that guitar? Maybe better but also maybe a lot worse than the fakes out there these days.
I do believe that it’s an unspoken rule,,,that when you get a chipson is
Be prepared to purchase everything but the wood and the finish. But with saying that.
Once installed it will play significantly better. Thus fooling the masses,
they are cool for beginner guitars on a budget....or for perfecting the stylish Pete Townshend technique of gifting the audience with some souvenirs
You should have had little Rabbits tattooed all over your head.
From a distance they can be mistaken for Hares.
*slow clap*
Not last time I looked. And it didn't sting when I had a piss.
I had a delayed laugh when I finally got it. lol
Hilarious!
Then he can join the Hare Club for Men along with Randy and Stan Marsh .
The voice does not match the head tattoos 😂
Menacingly Posh 😁
Shaun W
He sounds like he should be wearing a tweed smoking jacket talking about classic cigars
He looks and sounds like Rob Halford, so it seems to be a good match to me.
@@Kjca_1998 LOL , exactly !
That was a dare project.
between the voice and the head tattoos, I imagine your shop is located in a lair underneath a volcano
Good thing he is a luththier. Imagine showing up at job interview with head tattoo. (Sorry no offense 😂)
Or Hastings!
plot twist: that's a real gibson
Marcos Pintor now that would be a heck of a plot twist 😄
Not really a plot twist. A lot “high end” manufacturers are going way cheaper than they should, while some new comers are getting better quality and quality control while still being cheaper than the “high end” brands.
LOL, good one, ironic
I really wonder.... it would be interesting to try and chase down the distribution chain from the seller of this one to the manufacturer and see if you end up at a Gibson factory.
And the calls - they're coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!
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@@g4joe I just sent you a to0b of superglue! That is all you need.
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Ahhh thats what you are a shameless pig who knows nothing but copy. So yes you go do what you do best fucktard.
>goes bald
"I see a canvas here."
Plot twist: It really is a Gibson.
Would anyone be surprised?
For $230, I'd buy a Gibson.
*(Lots of people misunderstanding my comment. That was my way of saying I don't like the sound of Gibson guitars, and wouldn't pay much for one if I were ever interested. They sound a bit harsh or unpleasant to my ear. Let the Gibson fan-boy flaming begin.)*
13:33 changes his story , has a real flame maple top! He better get some more ugly skull tats
Gibson makes great guitars!!!! I have a slew of them..
@@jimr5703 I'll see your $230 and go to $200.
To my eye, that's not a solid flamed maple top...look at the side of the pickup hole around 14:00 and see if you can also spot the laminate. Great video, though, thanks!
cheap Les Paul copies were often made this way back in the '70's, Ibanez being one company who resorted to it, though some were non-laminated, glued-in neck jobs that were awfully good.
Yes I saw exactly the same veneer very clear :)
One way you can tell it's not a real Gibson is that the headstock isn't broken off.
LMAO!!!!!!
Lmfao burn burn😁
The Rogue Tomato 😂🤣🤣
It's not hard to keep a Les Paul in good condition. Just look after your guitar and you won't have an issue
Yet.
I can imagine him drunk sounds like captain Jack sparrow 😂😂
if i were to just hear you speak i never would guess you have tattoos all over your head. lol
I like dichotomy in all things, thanks for your support!
+Robert Weeks I like dichotomy in all things too. Can I have a medal please?
Tatts are no longer being sported by bikers and rough types. Everyone has them nowadays, even my 40 year old eldest daughter and good luck to her and anyone else feels like a tattoo. I might get one too I'm 64 and a crappy musician now that's two good reasons to mark up my skin. Oh yes,..also mine won't fade before I'm dead..
He also sounds taller
Bam Bam Bigelow
Mother of toilet seats....
Art Thompson's been using that one for YEARS...
JopesTV
You don't say.
Tuonelan Joutsen My mistake...it was Teisco Del Ray (I think his real name is Dan Forte) who first said it, reviewing 'el cheapo' guitars in Musician magazine in the early 80's. He later had a column in Guitar Player, then went on to the editorial staff. Art followed, as a column writer for off the wall guitars, then as a editorial staff member.
Laughs in rock -n- roll.
You're all wrong. I know genuine mother of bowling ball when I see it.
Some terminated epiphone employees must have got together and decided to start a company.
or its rejects from along the line, made to counterfiets to recoup the loss (thus the flaws) , or student guitars where they found a way to resell them and recoup costs, (thus the flaws)
Apparently you haven't played a NEW Epi....they are knockin out some pretty damn nice instruments these days....
You look kinda intimidating with your head tattoos and shaved head, but then you start talking and have a voice of a true gentleman that has dedicated his life to making others feel welcome and safe in his presence
Shame on me and my prejudices
Judging voices is still a prejudice
"...often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavourable, judgments toward people or a person because of their..."
Private school meets biker!
BAU agent here
He's a freak. An educated freak, but still a freak. Keep him away from dogs and children.
I feel like you forgot about the most important thing... The sound and how it plays.
I imagine fixing the orientation of the bridge, replacing the tuners, and checking the setup would be a good start. I suspect with the original tuners it'd sound pretty awful.
The mis-alignment of the bridge actually occurred in some of the original" '59 holy-grail" guitars.
That is not the most important thing at all. The fact is it was sold deceptively as something that it is not. Dishonesty is dishonesty no matter how you slice it. If you can't sell something on its own merit then you are a crook. Love or hate Gibson, this is a blow up doll.
Not going to play very well with frets that feel like sandpaper
It was fun to watch you take the guitar apart. Actually I have seen real Gibson's with worse finish blems and binding issues. Overall a good time.
GuiTar
I have six of these and all had the bridge pickups were changed to EMG 81’s with Grover tuners. Not one person has called them out as fake yet. I eventually tell them they’re all fake and it blows their minds. I did bring one to a guitar shop here locally to have the fretboard reworked and it did take the guy a few minutes to look at it before suspecting it being fake. I joked with him and said I paid $3k for it at guitar center. He changed his mind and then said “maybe I’m wrong”. I then told him it’s a fake and when he took off the back coffin case plate he recognized it immediately with the bad woodwork underneath. It was the first time he had personally actually seen one of the infamous “Chibsons” and was impressed.
I think your kid has found your magic marker-beware!!
Yes, this tells me not to fall asleep in front of the TV after a heavy meal that included libations. My bald head will be redecorated by a diaper Da Vinci.
But how does it sound!?
Right. That's the main criteria I used for the last guitar I bought. Of course the tuners and string distance from the frets had to be right. I ended up buying a high end Garrison over a low end Gibson. I just liked the feel and sound of the thing.
It can't sound too good with shit on backwards and misaligned.
@@Jeff-ik9zj those fake Gibson's are not made in Epiphone Factory nor are they made with Epiphone parts and any of them stamped with Epiphone on the back of the pickups are counterfeit it's just like the counterfeit Grover tuners.
Idead you do not know Gibsons. Easiest way to say it is not Gibson is that neck binding does not go around fret edges...
@@ivanrohal7489 Really??? Have a look at 2015 model year.
Letter spacing you refer to is called kerning... kerf is the width of a saw cut
The largest European reseller , Thomann, does not sell Gibson Guitars anymore. Due to quality prolems. LOL.
I hadn't heard that! This is seriously bad news for the company that used to be the best in the business, so so sad!
+Carl Valentin Is that why?? Wow wtf gibson ever heard of quality control. Was wondering cos I was actually checking how much a LP went for recently and noticed there was just no gibsons. I've head good things about their Harley benton LP copys though
+Pauly Mack Thomann sold a lot of custom-guitars specially made for them by gibson, called "faded","tribute" ...
These "original" gibsons went for 500-700 bucks and had poor qualty. European Ebay is full of these guitars. Gibsons-prices for standards and custom-shops may have helped to end their cooperation. And Zero-frets and electric tuners are not everbodys taste of guitars. They try to fill this segment wit Tokai, Düsenberg, PRS I think.
+Pauly Mack Harley-Benton is low-price made in china. Quality comparable to Epiphone.
+Carl Valentin I've just bought a Tokia Love Rock from Thomann just yesterday. I've also got a Tokai Breezy Sound Telecaster copy. This plays better and sounds nicer than all the Fender Telecasters I've had in the past. Hope the Love Rock Les Paul is as good.
This was so stressful watching and checking the flaws against my LP. I think mine is real.
Oh yeah, the world can ow go on because you have a real Les Paul. I hope you're precious Less Paul gets stolen from you and you never get it back. I'd punch you in the throat if I could.
Inside is a note that says- help I'm being held prisoner in the basement of the Epiphone factory!
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If you drop it and it falls to the ground, it's fake. If you drop it and the ground falls into it, it's a real Gibson.
"Mother of toilet seat" LOL
the kerning in the "Grover" machine heads are a classic example of : it would have been the same price to make it nice! While much of Gibson copying is all about materials and saving costs, this video highlights the fact that the copy houses have been garnering luthier skills and experience over the last few decades and that even with cheaper materials a fine instrument can be had delivered in a hard case for little cost.
for $200!!! l'll take 15 versions of it for the price of one Gibson, and have someone level and polish the frets with the leftover $$$'s