Plasma Torch Pilot Arc Conversion Easy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ย. 2019
- Plasma Torch Pilot Arc Conversion . Do you need a plasma hf start to pilot arc converter ? Check out how i turn my hf plasma cutter into a pilot arc machine while still running the standard pt 31 - lg 40 plasma torch But i think it would also work with the ag 60 torch. No cost involved this is just how i do it but would not recommend you to do it.
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Mr Pete, you saved me $200 today. Bless you!!!! I have a cut 50 hf, had a pilot arc cut 50 in my Amazon cart. Not to mention I have a box full of consumables. Like a miracle here’s your video!! Saw in one of your other videos that the electrodes are reversible, I right so but wasn’t sure. Thank you kind sir!!!!!!!!!!
Glad I could help
Best idea for improving a plasma cutter on all of You tube. I finally bought a plasma cutter last week and watched several of your videos and all your tips and especially this one on converting to a pilot arc (worked great) helped me bypass all the mistakes a newbie would make. Thanks for your help!
That is awesome!
Man I tell you I don't think I've ever seen a better straight forward absolutely practical everyday man video 💯😎
Thanks mate
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Pretty cool, Pete! A one stop shop for all the info and reviews you could ever need on these machines!
Yea every thing you didn't need to know
Simply beutiful. well explained from a dedicated person!
COOL THANKS cheers pete
thanks pete... exactly what I was looking for to resolve having to touch the metal work before cutting..
nice
You sir ...are a genius.....this is what i love and miss about youtube......
Cheers mate
That is incredibly simple, love it. Thanks!
Nice
PETE !!!! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH !! It works soooooo good !! And it saves on consumables !!!! Thanks Pete you’re the best !!
You're welcome!
Exactly what I was going to try, you save me the time, awesome
Cool thanks
Really enjoy your videos and comments
Glad you like them!
Just what I needed. Thank you
So glad!
Thanks Pete, I’ll give it a shot!
Kind of knowing ( how it works ) is one thing. but now I UNDERSTAND it much better. thanks
Cool my friend
Fabulous tip! Thanks for sharing!
You are so welcome!
great video...have had cut 40 for 10yrs...always wanted pilot arc...with mine if it starts and stops to often it blows up the voltage power regulator on the main board...pilot would stop this, great tip.....less grinding to allow good contact
Thanks for sharing
I did try this out it worked great thanks Pete
Cooool
Hi Pete, Great Video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant. What a beautiful hack.
cool
Hi Pet, That is a good Tip putting a wire on to the Torch Tip. I will try that later today.
yeeeheeeeee
Thanks Pete great idea.
Very welcome
Awesome you answered my question.love this channel
COOOOL
Cracking video! Saved me a shitload of money!
I'm gonna give it a punt turning the ground connection off with a relay once the arc is struck using some electrical magic to try and save my tips.
Keep up the good work.
cool
Great job love the video just what I needed thanks so much
cool mate have a great day
Holly cow, that is incredible. I live in India and the only single phase machine I can find is a high frequency touch start. I want to use it for a CNC, bit don't want to touch start the CNC. This is amazing. I'm going to give it a try.
No worries
I am from INDIA too, planing to make a DIY CNC. Can you please help with your number.
Thats cool. Super cool. Thanks for the video
Glad you liked it!
Too cool Pete! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Best videos on you tube thanks mate
Glad you enjoyed it
cheers
Love your channel!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the tip. Great idea.
no worries mate have great day
Hi thanks have a great day
Oh my God !!! Now I can avoid all the mess that happens cuting my epoxy painted iron bathtube. Thak you Sr! Thank you Thank you !!
You are so welcome
@@petestools Hi Pete take a look !! th-cam.com/video/NX4nH-hJLnw/w-d-xo.html thanks to you and your wire hack, I removed the entire bathtube using just ONE end of the consumable electrode. Thanks !! I was planning to buy dozens of them, and thanks to you Sr. I used "half consumable".
Bloody good video mate.
Quick simple easy to understand.
thanks
very handy tip!! very sharp idea!! i love this im gonna buy a non pilot arc plasma cutter instead !! less expensive!
Have fun!
Thanks for the Vid mate! Cheers! 😊
Thanks Robert ,Have a great day cheers pete.
Belting videos Pete, many thanks.
Very welcome
Thanks..... we move forward 🙏 💪
cool
Very good!! Oh tanks!
May I God bless you!
Thank you! You too!
Kiwi ingenuity. Thanks mate exactly what I needed because its cheap and im cheap.
sounds like me LOL
I cut a whole truck hood apart like this it was awesome thanks
cool mate
WOW!! very nice. Thank you for the vido
Your very welcome,Hi from new zealand
very nice mate!lovely!
Thank you! Cheers!
Ace real life, love it
cool cheers
Hi mr
From kuwait with big like
Hi Mahmoud , Glad to have you here
cheers from new zealand
Great idea sir 👌👌👍
Many many thanks
Awesome tip thank you.
No problem!
Bloody brilliant
Thanks mate
Pete you are quite intelligent about lots of things. Pilot arc starting systems in plasma cutters have a high frequency generator designed AC plasma inducing jet that is 1/4" to 1/2" long from the cutting tip for a short while until the DC kicks in at the base metal to continue the cut. When you jump the positive ground or work piece continuously like that throughout the entire cutting process you will heat up the digital circuitry or electronics in the machines and shorten their lives. You are telling all of these listeners to do something that is not designed for their machines to do. Only pilot arc start machines designed to give the initial starts until it contacts through the metal while cutting then converts back to DC to cut for long periods without harm. If it was that easy the machine sellers would surely install a work piece wire on all of their machines. Research the differences in machines with and without pilot arc designs.
I just cut steel mate lol . Good tips thanks
What's the difference between dragging on the metal you are cutting and having a wire attached to the tip that is clamped to the metal you are dragging on though? It's the same thing other than the wire wrapped around the end will get really hot because it's on the tip...
As far as it knows, it's making a connection with the metal, so it should be kicking out of HF like it normally would, wouldn't it?
It's really hard on the consumables, which is why I assumed it wasn't a great idea to do unless you needed to.
Thanks Pete
Very welcome
Outstanding!
Thanks mate
This could be an actual product! This is a great enhancement innovation.
lol you think
@@petestools absolutely!
muito bom, perfeito!🇧🇷
obrigado meu amigo
Welldone amigo
yehaaaaaaa
Awesome....creative
lol thanks
Great peter!
Thanks mate
freakin genius.
Hi thanks from NZ
Brilliant.
lol cheers
For the insulation problem on the wire, try silicone wire, they are more flexible and vastly more heat resistant.
Good idea thanks
Cool trick!
cheers mate
@@petestools cheers from San Antonio, Texas!
The loose bare wire going away from the tip can be wrapped in kapton tape to help insulate the wire and is high heat resistant 👍
Great idea thanks
@@petestools Kapton goes to about 260°C (www.kaptontape.com). You could also use a woven fiberglas high-temp sleeve, for up to ~600°C, like www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001718533875.html (or salvage it...I've found similar braided high-temp sleeving inside toaster ovens. Probably is in other hot electrical appliances too).
Peaty peat. Really neat
Ta
Great video mate thanks. I'm wondering if you remove the isolating ring whether the same thing would happen???? Might try both ways on my Aldi Plasma cutter!
Hi no it wont .Your torch wont light up cheers
Awesome!! Best plasma hack ever!!!
cool cheers pete
Gnarly. Just bought a new torch and it came with an extra wire attached to the consumables. I guess THIS is what it’s for. I’m assuming I should be able to run a lead down the umbilical back to the case and tie that wire to the ground clamp terminal and I’m good to go.
Yea try it
@@petestools tried it. Did it. Worked great lol. No more ground clamp necessary
genius......genius........genius
lol
youre the best
Oh shucks lol
Many hi man thanks a lot
Hi mate Thanks for watching
Gratitude!
You're most welcome!
Too Kool!!! 🛠️🛠️🛠️🛠️🛠️👍
cheers
I am interested in the inquisitive spirit of the old man, and I also used it as a reference.From Okinawa
ok whatever turns you on
I don't understand why you say that you don't recommend doing this. It seems like it is a really great way to make an HF machine act like a pilot arc machine when you need it.
Its not good for your tips
once you get started cutting on lets say a painted surface will the heat then burn off the paint once you get gong allowing a connection thru the tip again and not just the wire making the wire not heat up as much and last longer ? this way you'd only be using the wire to start but the melting steel/slag would then come in contact with the tip and it would cut as normal....thanks
Once you get it started you don't need the wire
I just bought a plasma hf start and stumbled on this at just the right time. Thanks for the great tip!
Other than the need to be careful of the bare wire and the shortened lifetime of the consumables, is there any other reason that you don't recommend it, or is it just to keep the sue-happy jackals at bay?
I don't know if it will damage your machine But works fine on mine cheers pete
this dose work but you loose cutting power as some of the current now travels through that added wire it also choose the tip out of the torch the inside is eating out. wonder if throwing a resister inline would help improve the life and lessen the current or maybe a cap with a very small bleed down resister
Good idea
Hi Pete. Great innovation. Could you put a small switch in the wire and mount it in/on the handle or where you could turn this off once the cutting starts.
You would have to put a relay in-between because of voltage
@@petestools Thanks Pete. Finally purchased my cutter (the first five failed) and found that you can simply cut a straight line through heavy painted or rusty material by using a steel straight edge. Just use the earth clamp to hold the straight edge in place extending it 20mm past the start edge. With the torch nozzle up against the steel edge, it acts the same as your conversion wire or a pilot arc. Only works with the straight edge though.
Cheers Mate
@@rayhughes8240 I like to use 1/4 thick flat bar for my strait edge
works just like you said
@@NightshiftCustom For working in tight places I drilled a small hole in a bit of quarter flat bar and attached a wire to it. Use a small magnet to attach it to the work where you want to start (same as the straight edge) and the other end of the wire to the earth clamp. Once the pilot arc starts you are off and running. Cheers
When you are cutting are you dragging the tip?
Would it be possible to machine a piece of copper to the dimensions of the swirl spacer of copper to make the electrical connection?
Thanks love the videos
never thought of that ,thanks for watching cheers pete
tremendous
thanks greetings from new zealand
Hey Pete good vid mate . Looking at cut50 plasma cutters the question is can thevalso weld or just cut cheers Ed
just cutters mate cheers pete
obrigado pela ideia vou fazer na minha cut 40 smart não e tocha piloto Bagé rs,
sem problemas boa sorte
Excellent info Pete!! Just curious would this cause any damage to the machine or cause the consumables to burn up faster?
Not that I know of
Excellet cut me gusta thank
Stick of feather in his hat and call him macaroni
Actually I'm just kidding you it's very informative thank you very much
lol YEE HAA
Hi Pete. Very clever idea. I was wondering why not removing the insulating ring and machine a copper/bronze/stainless one on the lathe to make contact with the tip? What do you think? Is it worth doing this instead of the bare wire method? Thanks a lot.
Try it .but maybe wont work.
Pretty cool. It’s not a real pilot arc. It’s the cutting arc. But still, it works.
As long as it works that's all i need lol
cheers pete
I have a pt 60 torch and I have had where my electrodes wont screw out the threads get messed up and I end up having to replace torch .I only put the electrodes in finger tight so I dont know why it keeps happening. Any idea what is causing this?
Hi are you sure the consumables are correct for your torch ? From the sound of it your electrode is arcing in the threads try and tighten it up very tight use some pliers . it might stop it arcing and causing damage .
Hi Pete, great videos. Do you know if it's possible to do this the other way round and use a non-pilot arc torch on a pilot arc machine?
Hi no sorry
You can test it by just unplugging the pilot arc ground wire from the machine probably...
I have a Cut60 HF and wish to add a P-80 Pilot Arc torch with the wire which normally attaches to the pilot arc ground on the front of a Pilot arc machine. Can I just lengthen this wire and ground it to my ground clamp?
maybe i haven't tried on that machine
2:00m As I understand it, if you just make a scratch to base metal and start your torch there - you've got it made..
yep
Pete, a question about plasma tips. I have a Herocut Plasma cutter45x pilot arc and would like to know if the torch which is an IPT60 can use drag tips.
will try and find out for you mate
You are very cool man and cool sir
I need help, to understanding plasma cutting machine voltage and amps
( output )
For example, a stick arc welding machine outputs ~ 15 volts and 80 to 250 amps
According to your video, to make starting arc/pilot acr it needs low amps (probably) and high ~ 5000 voltages.
After that when plasma starts to form, then how much voltage and current is needed to make plasma? (I'm talking about the output)
it's quite low voltage
How much amps
How much output amps voltage and frequency.
Hi!
How long do the wear parts last if you cut with the "conversion"? How many starts kann you make?
Thx
I have used this way for years
Hi Pete, do not touch the un-isolated wire during usage, you might get injured, when the ground clamp is not making proper contact !!!
GOOD TIPS THANKS
Good work I have just ordered a AG-60 for my cut 40. Hoping I am hoping it has the extra wire. If not I will try your idea. Many thanks
Good luck!
Could you get a pilot arc torch and ground the wire that goes to the red connector? Would that work? Please show if you have the pilot arc torch please. Looking to get a plasma cutter 50 but not sure if I should get a pilot or non-pilot and try a pilot torch? What do you think? The way you are showing does it make the consumables last longer?
Hi, If your cutting dirty steel get a pilot arc
When upgrading what does the red wire context to on the torch? U have a cut 40 as I have the cut 50, could you help a sister out
yea
Does this avoid the HF created on the start up?
just tricks the machine in thinking it cutting when it isn't
i have a p80 pilot arc touch can i hook it up like in video to make it a pilot touch
I have done it with a p-80 cheers Pete
Pete, what do you think of the Stamos plasma with built in compressor from Germany.
don't know it sorry i can only afford the cheap ones
Mr can we use usual Tig welding electrode as plasma cutter according your explanation on youtube kindly?
Thank you
No you cant use Tig welding electrode as plasma cutter sorry .Plasma cutting is special machine .
cheers pete
as fas as i learned the plasmacutter has much higher voltage like 80-100V, tig usually is 20-40V
@@hyperhektor7733 cool thanks
Hi, I did that trick with no luck. Do you have or could make a video on how to troubleshoot the cutter. Mine is not arcing at all:(
checkout this video might help : th-cam.com/video/2QI_iD1tKhs/w-d-xo.html