what a great machine and machinist, you do the programming also? took a tour years ago at Mazak factory, they turned the lights on for us to see what was going on, everything was automated, no lights or heat needed. robots working 24 hrs a day .
+David Kirtley You are right it would be, But I didn't have any 1.125 Hex and it was just for one part. Also I like to show different ways of doing things. I would like to get people to think outside the box and for me this was the easiest way to do it from the drop off the shaft. But also the most wasteful in material. I would do as you say if I was making a lot of these.
Edge After while watching the video i noticed after you finish hex with 1/2 EM you program the same tool for the threading bore in conventional mode....why didn't you programmed it in climb mode as most of the programmers????? Is there any particular reason (advantage programming it this way?????)
hi! just found your channel and really like it 👍 does your thread look normal using a threadmill? I mean if your threads are a bit diagnal, and your cutter is turning perfectly sideways, wouldn't your threads kinda become a perabla? do they look fine to the naked eye? I'm still learning :) thanks
the russian machinists hi glad you like it. I'm no sure I understand your question. I would like to help you. A thread mill should make the same thread as a lathe tool if programmed properly and the tool is the proper tool.
Edge Precision thankyou for the reply! imagine we threadmilled an extremely coarse thread with a fly cutter... let's say the thread is 1 Rev in 4 inches. how would our thread look like then? I don't think our thread would be normal looking at all, but would be a u shaped groove down the ID. I think the same principle applies to a regular thread, but in much smaller scale ofcoarse. we can't cut a perfect sideways "groove" when our cutter isn't parallel with the groove, if that makes sense.
the russian machinists I see what you mean. You are right if the lead is to steep or the thread is square in profile it would not produce a accurate profile. There is a relation to the diameter of the thread mill to the lead of the thread. With single start V threads this isn't usually a problem. On a ID thread you usually can't fit a cutter to large in diameter. On a OD cutting with a fly cutter if the lead was steep and the cutter was large in diameter this could lead to a imperfect thread profile. I have used cutters as big as 3.00" in diameter to mill a 4.50" diameter 6 pitch internal Acme thread without a problem.
How did you get the 30 deg chamfer done around the edge of the step? It looks well blended in. I use Fusion 360 and not sure how you’d go about doing that.
@@ScotY808 I would use the chamfer mill as a normal square endmill in the software, calculate the length from the tool tip to the tool OD edge and do a normal profile milling operation around the round profile and adding the tip to tool OD offset to the depth. After all, the chamfer mill is basically just a square endmill with a cone attached to its tip.
I had a UMC 750 with next gen control at my old shop. It could post probe cycles to MDI based on what you wanted to do. On older controls can you do the same or do you have to just remember it all?
If I understand your question. With Renishaw’s easy set macros in the control you can do probing in MDI. It doesn’t matter what age the control. In fact you could do it even without them but it would be more involved. Some controls like the Haas and the Meldas controls don’t loose the MDI commands.(there may be others). So once you enter them you can just put the cursor on the line hit input than cycle start. I wish all controls did this.
Nice work! What was the name of cam software that you used? Was there a specific reason that you used drill rod to make the nut instead of hex stock other than it was the material you had on hand? Thanks for sharing this. Peace!
+Jeffrey Vastine The software for Cad drawing I use is SpaceClaim and the software I use for Cam is Esprit. The reason I use Esprit is they have a good post for the Mazak E650 I own and use at work. It is a full 5Axis multitask machine (does lathe and milling in one machine). I have shown it in previous videos. Anyway Esprit is able to do the programing for this machine as well as all my other machines except the CNC tool&cutter Grinder. The software it uses is called Numroto. I showed a simulation of that in the video Grind ID Face Groove Tool.
+Jeffrey Vastine I have been watching the videos on NYC CNC with interest. This seems like a very good solution for someone just getting into CNC and free( if I understand right in the student version). I like the way it runs inside the cad software. The toolpath I see in NYC CNC videos looks pretty good.
+Edge Precision did you know , Esprit is a french word that translate to spirit or soul,so, does it have a meaning with the task the soft do , like an acronym, or is it a completely pointless name choice
Love the channel/videos. I took some CNC classes, but never got good enough to get hired... :-( So I'm curious... if you had milled the hex deeper ditto the drilled hole, it would make parting faster... not sure if this would be slower, or have other undesired aspects...?
I had to go back and watch the video. I couldn’t remember. I made the video so long ago. You a probably Correct for the OD but the ID I like to drill the hole only deep enough. So the parting tool just breaks into the corner of the hole. I don’t know if I even did this in this video. If the parting tool breaks into the hole on the outside corner of the drill point. It will not leave as big of burr on the parted off part.
Maybe this question has been asked already; How many GoPro cameras/housings have gone through? I know the cameras inside the integrex are pointless. But the turning operations are risky with the stringers! Hahaha Not sure how many people who follow your channel, know the amount of time it takes you to draw the product or write a program in Mazatrol? Then the set-up and run time... It's hard for companies to make money as a job shop, most times. Converational programming still has it's limits with premium threading, but I enjoy it. That's what I would like to explore, is the design (software) aspect of programming. Very few companies allow your to design and machine! COOL STUFF!
OILFIELDTOOL It's interesting that you ask that question, and no, no one has asked it. I have hade a lot of trouble with GoPro camera cases. The plastic they use for them doesn't hold up to the coolants. It causes the plastic to crack and fail. You may have noticed in some of my videos that I have used tie wraps and rubber bands to hold the back on. I've changed the latch to a aftermarket aluminum one. But the plastic fails at the attachment points and hinges. I have modeled a aluminum case using the lense cover and buttons from their case. I just haven't got around to making it. It will also have a air knife to continually blow the coolant off the lense. My next project after the mill stop fixture.
Hahahaha That sounds Awesome! I picture in my mind, your GoPro being caught by a stringer and being thrown around the machine cavity, like leaving a indicator in that environment. Risky life of a GoPro hahahaha But I never thought the coolant would affect the housing that much. I always think of the flexible blue coolant hoses, I will look to see what type of polymer they're made of...
@@EdgePrecision I know this is an old thread, and that you've likely already found a solution to chemical damage to your plastic camera housings, but in the unlikely event that you are still having this problem I have a suggestion: coat the plastic with silicon oil (e.g. RainX). Silicon oil is tenacious and will provide a protective barrier for plastic. It's this same property that has made it the bane of painters. It only takes a small amount to prevent paint from sticking. Thoroughly clean the plastic to be protected with warm soap and water. After letting the surface dry, apply silicon oil to plastic and wipe off excess. Reapply as needed. I use polycarbonate shields on my lathe and mill, which is what I believe that Gopro case are made of, and silicone oil has done a great job protection them from coolant and chips. It also makes it much easier to clean them. The silicon oil protects by filling microscopic voids in the surface it's applied to.
Shotgun Reloader I'm assuming your question is about controlling the size. If you program using cutter comp (say G41 for left hand comp) on the tool offset page you change the diameter of the tool. Reducing the diameter takes off more increasing it leaves more. When you rerun the tool. Is that what you are asking?
Yes, I was wondering if this was a legitimate way to sneak up on the size or if you had to modify the g code. So on the thread mill you kept telling machine the thread mill is smaller and just re running the code to get the fit you needed? or is there a better way?
I must be into machining to sit and watch a nut being extracted from a chunk of iron. Wow, an awesome video!!!
Fantastic! This is the longtest nut making in the history of mankind.
It takes a Good machinist To make a Good machine Work!Nice work There!!
Looks good Peter. It would be cool to see getting the offsets manually once to compare the time savings vs using the probe.
+Bill De La Vega Thanks Bill I will try to show that in a up coming video.
Nice nut. It makes it look so easy.
+Randy Richard Thanks Randy
what a great machine and machinist, you do the programming also? took a tour years ago at Mazak factory, they turned the lights on for us to see what was going on, everything was automated, no lights or heat needed. robots working 24 hrs a day .
Yes I do my own programming.
A good demonstration of what can be done cnc.
+Peteip Thanks
Very pretty part. What is the reason you went to all that trouble? A piece of hex stock in the lathe and you could crank them out all day much faster.
+David Kirtley You are right it would be, But I didn't have any 1.125 Hex and it was just for one part. Also I like to show different ways of doing things. I would like to get people to think outside the box and for me this was the easiest way to do it from the drop off the shaft. But also the most wasteful in material. I would do as you say if I was making a lot of these.
Edge
After while watching the video i noticed after you finish hex with 1/2 EM you program the same tool for the threading bore in conventional mode....why didn't you programmed it in climb mode as most of the programmers????? Is there any particular reason (advantage programming it this way?????)
I don't know what you are referring to? I reviewed the video just to make sure. All tools are climb milling in this program.
hi! just found your channel and really like it 👍
does your thread look normal using a threadmill? I mean if your threads are a bit diagnal, and your cutter is turning perfectly sideways, wouldn't your threads kinda become a perabla? do they look fine to the naked eye?
I'm still learning :)
thanks
the russian machinists hi glad you like it. I'm no sure I understand your question. I would like to help you. A thread mill should make the same thread as a lathe tool if programmed properly and the tool is the proper tool.
Edge Precision thankyou for the reply! imagine we threadmilled an extremely coarse thread with a fly cutter... let's say the thread is 1 Rev in 4 inches. how would our thread look like then? I don't think our thread would be normal looking at all, but would be a u shaped groove down the ID. I think the same principle applies to a regular thread, but in much smaller scale ofcoarse. we can't cut a perfect sideways "groove" when our cutter isn't parallel with the groove, if that makes sense.
the russian machinists I see what you mean. You are right if the lead is to steep or the thread is square in profile it would not produce a accurate profile. There is a relation to the diameter of the thread mill to the lead of the thread. With single start V threads this isn't usually a problem. On a ID thread you usually can't fit a cutter to large in diameter. On a OD cutting with a fly cutter if the lead was steep and the cutter was large in diameter this could lead to a imperfect thread profile. I have used cutters as big as 3.00" in diameter to mill a 4.50" diameter 6 pitch internal Acme thread without a problem.
Edge Precision oh ok. Maybe it's not as much of a problem as I thought.
thanks for your videos, looking forward for more to come :)
How did you get the 30 deg chamfer done around the edge of the step? It looks well blended in. I use Fusion 360 and not sure how you’d go about doing that.
This is a old video of mine. Did I turn it on the lathe or do it on the mill? I will have to review the video.
It was all done on your mill.
@@ScotY808 I would use the chamfer mill as a normal square endmill in the software, calculate the length from the tool tip to the tool OD edge and do a normal profile milling operation around the round profile and adding the tip to tool OD offset to the depth. After all, the chamfer mill is basically just a square endmill with a cone attached to its tip.
Cnc is really amazing. But I ant got a computer. But I like doing it by hand. M
Lizard on the wall, welcome to my world. Nothing like waking up to a Gecko right above you on the ceiling. :-)
I had a UMC 750 with next gen control at my old shop. It could post probe cycles to MDI based on what you wanted to do. On older controls can you do the same or do you have to just remember it all?
If I understand your question. With Renishaw’s easy set macros in the control you can do probing in MDI. It doesn’t matter what age the control. In fact you could do it even without them but it would be more involved. Some controls like the Haas and the Meldas controls don’t loose the MDI commands.(there may be others). So once you enter them you can just put the cursor on the line hit input than cycle start. I wish all controls did this.
Nice work! What was the name of cam software that you used? Was there a specific reason that you used drill rod to make the nut instead of hex stock other than it was the material you had on hand? Thanks for sharing this.
Peace!
+Jeffrey Vastine The software for Cad drawing I use is SpaceClaim and the software I use for Cam is Esprit. The reason I use Esprit is they have a good post for the Mazak E650 I own and use at work. It is a full 5Axis multitask machine (does lathe and milling in one machine). I have shown it in previous videos. Anyway Esprit is able to do the programing for this machine as well as all my other machines except the CNC tool&cutter Grinder. The software it uses is called Numroto. I showed a simulation of that in the video Grind ID Face Groove Tool.
Thanks for the info. Have you looked at Fusion 360 yet? I heard they will soon be adding 5th axis capability and more to the entry level edition.
+Jeffrey Vastine I have been watching the videos on NYC CNC with interest. This seems like a very good solution for someone just getting into CNC and free( if I understand right in the student version). I like the way it runs inside the cad software. The toolpath I see in NYC CNC videos looks pretty good.
+Edge Precision did you know , Esprit is a french word that translate to spirit or soul,so, does it have a meaning with the task the soft do , like an acronym, or is it a completely pointless name choice
TheMrJuoji, I don't really know. It's a CAM software.
Love the channel/videos. I took some CNC classes, but never got good enough to get hired... :-( So I'm curious... if you had milled the hex deeper ditto the drilled hole, it would make
parting faster... not sure if this would be slower, or have other undesired aspects...?
I had to go back and watch the video. I couldn’t remember. I made the video so long ago. You a probably Correct for the OD but the ID I like to drill the hole only deep enough. So the parting tool just breaks into the corner of the hole. I don’t know if I even did this in this video. If the parting tool breaks into the hole on the outside corner of the drill point. It will not leave as big of burr on the parted off part.
Maybe this question has been asked already; How many GoPro cameras/housings have gone through? I know the cameras inside the integrex are pointless. But the turning operations are risky with the stringers! Hahaha Not sure how many people who follow your channel, know the amount of time it takes you to draw the product or write a program in Mazatrol? Then the set-up and run time... It's hard for companies to make money as a job shop, most times. Converational programming still has it's limits with premium threading, but I enjoy it. That's what I would like to explore, is the design (software) aspect of programming. Very few companies allow your to design and machine! COOL STUFF!
OILFIELDTOOL It's interesting that you ask that question, and no, no one has asked it. I have hade a lot of trouble with GoPro camera cases. The plastic they use for them doesn't hold up to the coolants. It causes the plastic to crack and fail. You may have noticed in some of my videos that I have used tie wraps and rubber bands to hold the back on. I've changed the latch to a aftermarket aluminum one. But the plastic fails at the attachment points and hinges. I have modeled a aluminum case using the lense cover and buttons from their case. I just haven't got around to making it. It will also have a air knife to continually blow the coolant off the lense. My next project after the mill stop fixture.
Hahahaha That sounds Awesome! I picture in my mind, your GoPro being caught by a stringer and being thrown around the machine cavity, like leaving a indicator in that environment. Risky life of a GoPro hahahaha But I never thought the coolant would affect the housing that much. I always think of the flexible blue coolant hoses, I will look to see what type of polymer they're made of...
@@EdgePrecision I know this is an old thread, and that you've likely already found a solution to chemical damage to your plastic camera housings, but in the unlikely event that you are still having this problem I have a suggestion: coat the plastic with silicon oil (e.g. RainX).
Silicon oil is tenacious and will provide a protective barrier for plastic. It's this same property that has made it the bane of painters. It only takes a small amount to prevent paint from sticking. Thoroughly clean the plastic to be protected with warm soap and water. After letting the surface dry, apply silicon oil to plastic and wipe off excess. Reapply as needed.
I use polycarbonate shields on my lathe and mill, which is what I believe that Gopro case are made of, and silicone oil has done a great job protection them from coolant and chips. It also makes it much easier to clean them. The silicon oil protects by filling microscopic voids in the surface it's applied to.
nice job. Just suggesting to use car glass cleaner in front of the camera :)
+Andriy Podanenko That's a good idea. I don't know why I didn't think of it I use it on the windows of my Mazak.
SKIP TO 8:30 TO SEE THE FIRST CUT!
Why not just use hex stock?
I didn’t have any.
5 axes? Are there two dimensions of existence that I am unaware of?
I machining terms these are axes of motion. Not dimensions of reality.
How do you rerun chamfer and tread mill, do you tell the machine the bit is smaller or larger than it is?
Shotgun Reloader I'm assuming your question is about controlling the size. If you program using cutter comp (say G41 for left hand comp) on the tool offset page you change the diameter of the tool. Reducing the diameter takes off more increasing it leaves more. When you rerun the tool. Is that what you are asking?
Yes, I was wondering if this was a legitimate way to sneak up on the size or if you had to modify the g code. So on the thread mill you kept telling machine the thread mill is smaller and just re running the code to get the fit you needed? or is there a better way?
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while doing the graphs press F4