Totally agree. Training in gear has actually shot up my raw lifts as well, which I wasn't expecting lol. I compare raw and geared powerlifting to high jump and pole vaulting. You may instantly go higher in the pole vault, but it's a lot harder lol
About time someone speaks to geared versus raw with experience in both. Those that bash single ply usually have no experience with it. Geared lifters can usually go raw with little effort and still be very competitive, but not the other way around. I love raw, but geared is so much more fucking challenging and exciting. Excellent clip to show.
As a 48 year old equipped power lifter still healthy in my hips and joints this Video delivers on all points. Probably one of the BEST I have heard on both sides of the aisle. You are pleasure to watch compete and at the ARNOLD you delivered again!!!
Great video appreciate your input on a quick lifting. Lotta good points you made. I was fortunate enough to meet you at the 2019 bench nationals I competed there in Sioux Falls I found you to be an outstanding individual who was willing to help anyone at that meet with information that you have. I wish you all the best in the future of your lifting career!!
I must say as I read your book "Scientific Principles of Strength Training" that this is by far the best training book I have red so far and although your video series on this book are great they are even better described in this book and I encourage everyone who has a passion for lifting and always seek out to learn more that they get this book
Technical proficiency a necessity with equipped powerlifting. Although more weight can be lifted than raw, mastery of squat/deadlift suit and bench shirt is required. For example, if a shirted bench press is out of the groove, between the unracking of bar and the chest touch, forget about getting the lift passed.
Hello Chad, you all did this video 5 years ago, and during this video Blaine stated more than once that training, tapering, etc is different for Raw vs Equipped lifters. I have asked a few times while using JAI for an equipped version and the response is always just adjust your numbers. You can do a complete cycle in gear. If you don’t hit the recommended numbers, the app says you are done for the day. In addition, every meet for the last year my peak was off and i would ask following the meet what did I do wrong? I would be told it was my diet, it was this or it was that, but never that we have to peak you different because you are an equipped lifter. Please look at adding this option. Equipped lifting is big in Europe and Asia, so you are missing out on potential customers. I made great gains using the app, but that doesn’t matter if I don’t produce on the platform. Fortunately I’ve done well enough to win 2 National Championships and now heading to the Worlds. But it would be nice to hit the numbers on the platform that i hit in the gym
Personally, my body got really chewwed up. I played linebacker in a Sunday league football team, my hips and shoulders were getting really really beat up, between that and my manual labour job, I could barely function. Since hopping into gear I can squat, bench and deadlift almost every single week. 3 months of every year are done raw, 6 months are single ply and 3 months multi ply.
I'm interested in what Blaine says. However, I'm a newbie. Can someone explain in a bit more detail why the squat suit (and other equipment) helps lift more?
Gerhard Symons squat suit or any lifting suit builds elastic energy at bottom (the more weight the better) and gives you bounce out of the hole in the case of the squat. slightly different muscles used in a suit and requires different training and focusing on how the suit works its not as easy as throwing a suit on and squatting +300lbs I personally never used one but that's what I know about them forgive me if I'm wrong
I think a better analogy would be NASCAR to F1. Formula 1 cars are better in every way, but NASCAR looks like normal cars. Both require a ton of skill, but there is no debate that F1 is the pinnacle of pure racing. At the higher speeds and more complicated turns, a small mistake can take you out of the F1 race. NASCAR drivers can recover from a slight miscalculation. Sure, they're both racing, but one class is so much faster it seems like cheating.
Scott Mayo the best analogy in my opinion is Pole Vault to High Jump. Same goal (go over the highest bar) but one involves a mastery of an implement beyond the athletes body.
Yes, I made this analogy before. There are no flexible standards though in what Blaine is doing in the IPF, he actually went 2 years I think without getting a squat in in the USAPL in gear and these are squats that by XPC/Westside/IPA standards would have been beyond buried. It is VERY important to note the distinction between IPF Equipped lifting and all other equipped lifting, from the judging, to the equipment restrictions (both of the gear, 2m knee wraps, no specialty bars) to the drug testing, they are VERY different. The pole vault analogy for multiply would be like the bar was sagging down 3' in the center, they jumped over it there but since the edges of the bar were still at World Record height, they just went by that anyways.
Blaine explained that really well. It does seem a bit daft to have the strongest guys split between raw and equipped though, how can it be said who's the strongest?
they are actually different sports. So it doesn't really matter. If we're talking about the strongest, we are leaving out weightlifters and strongmen too. It is important though to distinguish between raw, raw with wraps, and equipped. The numbers change substantially. For me the one the irritates me the most is people who don't distinguish between sleeves vs. wraps.
IPF gear lifting might make heated lifting make a comeback, which I think is unfortunate if it becomes more popular again than raw but I doubt that will happen seeing as how everyone has seen the atrocity that geared lifting became a few years ago.
a lot of that was in those backyard/basement feds designed just to give people all time world records. But this is true even with some of the raw feds out there too. You just need to stay with legit federations. The IPF (USAPL in the US) is one of those, and the more people in it the better it is for the overall health of the sport - as long as the vast majority of lifters are competing in legit feds, the sketchy ones are far less likely to bring disrepute to powerlifting.
Mat Coddy he wears what titan sends him to wear I've seen him admit there's better equipment out there but he remains in his brands gear across the board
+KaoKao the signature golds and THPs are titan wraps , and are what most titan sponsored lifters wear . The titaniums are a much softer/ less supportive material , the THPs a bit heavier , and the signature golds being the most supportive and stiffest of the 3. I have all three, and never wear the titaniums, wear the THP for lighter sets/ rep work, and the signature golds for suited and heavy stuff... hes been using the titaniums for years too lol its always interested me so much why
I know that Charles Opoko uses them because he self-wraps and can get way more revolutions and gets more out of them. I also self-wrap and use the golds but have been thhinking about trying the THP to see if the extra revolution or 2 really makes the difference .
I got this from his handler - his legs are too big. You got to remember he's 6'2 and weighs in around 390lbs. It's much harder for a big lifter with big legs to really crank down the golds b/c they have less/almost no stretch (this is for the IPF where you are limited to 2m wraps). Blaine gets more revolutions around his legs with the titaniums giving him more support. Now if he could use the 3 meter golds, he most likely would.
@@ryanjohnson7161 Opoko's also 66kg (145lbs) compared to Blaine's 178kg (390lb) competition weight. Both get the same 2 meter wraps. It won't hurt to try the titaniums, it probably depends on how big your legs are and how tight you can wrap them. If you compete, it probably would be a good idea to have someone who knows what they are doing wrap you. Tighter is better. Obviously you'd need to do it in training first to get used to it. And you'd need to build up to handling much tighter wraps as well (one concern is pitching a nerve and that wouldn't be good lol).
I like Blaine's explanation of both raw and equiped lifting. Nothing against him. I get the whole equiped for training purposes but I don't get the competition part. Squat, deadlift ya maybe but the bench is just rediculus. The percentage gain in a bench shirt is huge! 530 raw to around 900ibs in a shirt! Come on! I use the slingshot for training but I can't say my bench is based on a slingshot max! Just my opinion.
hey Chad, have you ever considered cutting a bit of weight to see how'd you look? this is a serious question, im not calling you fat or anything of the sorts.
The analogy I find most applicable is High Jump vs Pole Vault. Both trying to launch over the highest bar possible, one goes higher by technically manipulating an object beyond their body. Single vs Multiply would just be analogous to the stiffness/length of the pole which for vaulting requires more speed/precision to maximize the effectiveness of.
"Hurr Durr I use suits so I'm better." "Hurr Durr It's just harder" "Hurr Durr I'm a better powerlifter even though I cant beat Williams" Boy ya betta be on som bombaclot grass for these aguments to not sound so ignant ma breda
I love Blaine, but benching in a shirt even single ply looks like garbage. It is 100% unrelatable to someone who benches raw, and as someone who has worn a single ply suit on all three lifts, yes you will instantly lift more, why lie
That's a joke. My first 3-4 times in a bench shirt, I couldn't touch my chest and I continually dumped the bar towards my face. It's not like you throw the gear on and you are immediately totaling 200 kg more. It takes some time to figure out how to work the gear to even lift to the correct standards of a meet. So he's absolutely not lying.
Now I definitely didn't say you'd be ready to compete but the first training session with f6 I eventually was able to touch and perform singles, and the bench shirt has the largest learning curve it was much easier to use a squat suit and and deadlift suit
Mat Coddy I agree it clearly is a skill, and I totally respect the skill even multiply lifting is an art. yet I still always come back to those bench presses as the one reason I can't take it seriously, guys who can only bench 6's maybe hitting well over 1000lbs or even Blaine hitting 900 in single ply. It's just too far removed from the original
+KaoKao ya the carryover from singleply katanas (like blaines) is insane , that type of carryover used to only be open back multiply shirts... my coach actually was the head judge for him last year at the 2106 arnold , for his world record bench
Totally agree. Training in gear has actually shot up my raw lifts as well, which I wasn't expecting lol. I compare raw and geared powerlifting to high jump and pole vaulting. You may instantly go higher in the pole vault, but it's a lot harder lol
Mitchell Gallagher like this analogy
Blaine is the only person who makes me interested in equipped lifting
About time someone speaks to geared versus raw with experience in both. Those that bash single ply usually have no experience with it. Geared lifters can usually go raw with little effort and still be very competitive, but not the other way around. I love raw, but geared is so much more fucking challenging and exciting. Excellent clip to show.
I totally agree about geared lifting being way scarier lol , especially when you squat straps up , or are touching the chest in the bench shirt
this is interesting and novel content ... never knew about the extra adrenaline rush and stuff for example, thanks blaine and jts
dr eggman is strong these days
take this take this take this take this
You can't take away the amount of training and skill you really for geared lifting. 1100lbs is still a 1100lbs when it's trying to crush you!
I respect this dude. He is really really strong!
Great video, I really like how you explained the difference between raw and equipped lifting.
As a 48 year old equipped power lifter still healthy in my hips and joints this Video delivers on all points. Probably one of the BEST I have heard on both sides of the aisle. You are pleasure to watch compete and at the ARNOLD you delivered again!!!
So cool to learn about Blaine's back story
Great video appreciate your input on a quick lifting. Lotta good points you made. I was fortunate enough to meet you at the 2019 bench nationals I competed there in Sioux Falls I found you to be an outstanding individual who was willing to help anyone at that meet with information that you have. I wish you all the best in the future of your lifting career!!
I must say as I read your book "Scientific Principles of Strength Training" that this is by far the best training book I have red so far and although your video series on this book are great they are even better described in this book and I encourage everyone who has a passion for lifting and always seek out to learn more that they get this book
Thanks
So excited to watch Blaine at World Games.!!! #TeamBlaine
180kg fell like a life and death situation for me :D
the fuckin speed on that 600 squat at 7:30, damn
Good statement video Mr. Sumner!
Technical proficiency a necessity with equipped powerlifting. Although more weight can be lifted than raw, mastery of squat/deadlift suit and bench shirt is required. For example, if a shirted bench press is out of the groove, between the unracking of bar and the chest touch, forget about getting the lift passed.
Hello Chad, you all did this video 5 years ago, and during this video Blaine stated more than once that training, tapering, etc is different for Raw vs Equipped lifters. I have asked a few times while using JAI for an equipped version and the response is always just adjust your numbers. You can do a complete cycle in gear. If you don’t hit the recommended numbers, the app says you are done for the day. In addition, every meet for the last year my peak was off and i would ask following the meet what did I do wrong? I would be told it was my diet, it was this or it was that, but never that we have to peak you different because you are an equipped lifter. Please look at adding this option. Equipped lifting is big in Europe and Asia, so you are missing out on potential customers. I made great gains using the app, but that doesn’t matter if I don’t produce on the platform. Fortunately I’ve done well enough to win 2 National Championships and now heading to the Worlds. But it would be nice to hit the numbers on the platform that i hit in the gym
Would like to see you on the podcast again!
Raw with suit
Personally, my body got really chewwed up. I played linebacker in a Sunday league football team, my hips and shoulders were getting really really beat up, between that and my manual labour job, I could barely function.
Since hopping into gear I can squat, bench and deadlift almost every single week. 3 months of every year are done raw, 6 months are single ply and 3 months multi ply.
I'm interested in what Blaine says. However, I'm a newbie. Can someone explain in a bit more detail why the squat suit (and other equipment) helps lift more?
Gerhard Symons squat suit or any lifting suit builds elastic energy at bottom (the more weight the better) and gives you bounce out of the hole in the case of the squat. slightly different muscles used in a suit and requires different training and focusing on how the suit works its not as easy as throwing a suit on and squatting +300lbs I personally never used one but that's what I know about them forgive me if I'm wrong
Gerhard Symons think like a rubber band when u pull it, it bounces back
I8UxAnonymous Got it, thanks for explanation!
It's a spring. It's a bit like bands, you just wear them.
I think a better analogy would be NASCAR to F1. Formula 1 cars are better in every way, but NASCAR looks like normal cars. Both require a ton of skill, but there is no debate that F1 is the pinnacle of pure racing. At the higher speeds and more complicated turns, a small mistake can take you out of the F1 race. NASCAR drivers can recover from a slight miscalculation. Sure, they're both racing, but one class is so much faster it seems like cheating.
Thats a great way to put it. Thats how I think of it aswell
Scott Mayo the best analogy in my opinion is Pole Vault to High Jump. Same goal (go over the highest bar) but one involves a mastery of an implement beyond the athletes body.
Yes, I made this analogy before. There are no flexible standards though in what Blaine is doing in the IPF, he actually went 2 years I think without getting a squat in in the USAPL in gear and these are squats that by XPC/Westside/IPA standards would have been beyond buried. It is VERY important to note the distinction between IPF Equipped lifting and all other equipped lifting, from the judging, to the equipment restrictions (both of the gear, 2m knee wraps, no specialty bars) to the drug testing, they are VERY different. The pole vault analogy for multiply would be like the bar was sagging down 3' in the center, they jumped over it there but since the edges of the bar were still at World Record height, they just went by that anyways.
Well said mate
Blaine explained that really well. It does seem a bit daft to have the strongest guys split between raw and equipped though, how can it be said who's the strongest?
they are actually different sports. So it doesn't really matter. If we're talking about the strongest, we are leaving out weightlifters and strongmen too. It is important though to distinguish between raw, raw with wraps, and equipped. The numbers change substantially. For me the one the irritates me the most is people who don't distinguish between sleeves vs. wraps.
such a nice dude
IPF gear lifting might make heated lifting make a comeback, which I think is unfortunate if it becomes more popular again than raw but I doubt that will happen seeing as how everyone has seen the atrocity that geared lifting became a few years ago.
a lot of that was in those backyard/basement feds designed just to give people all time world records. But this is true even with some of the raw feds out there too. You just need to stay with legit federations. The IPF (USAPL in the US) is one of those, and the more people in it the better it is for the overall health of the sport - as long as the vast majority of lifters are competing in legit feds, the sketchy ones are far less likely to bring disrepute to powerlifting.
Why did he steal Eric Spoto's nickname?
I've always wondered why blaine uses titanium wraps instead of the signature golds, or at least the THPs , anyone ever heard why he does that?
Mat Coddy he wears what titan sends him to wear I've seen him admit there's better equipment out there but he remains in his brands gear across the board
+KaoKao the signature golds and THPs are titan wraps , and are what most titan sponsored lifters wear . The titaniums are a much softer/ less supportive material , the THPs a bit heavier , and the signature golds being the most supportive and stiffest of the 3. I have all three, and never wear the titaniums, wear the THP for lighter sets/ rep work, and the signature golds for suited and heavy stuff... hes been using the titaniums for years too lol its always interested me so much why
I know that Charles Opoko uses them because he self-wraps and can get way more revolutions and gets more out of them. I also self-wrap and use the golds but have been thhinking about trying the THP to see if the extra revolution or 2 really makes the difference .
I got this from his handler - his legs are too big. You got to remember he's 6'2 and weighs in around 390lbs. It's much harder for a big lifter with big legs to really crank down the golds b/c they have less/almost no stretch (this is for the IPF where you are limited to 2m wraps). Blaine gets more revolutions around his legs with the titaniums giving him more support. Now if he could use the 3 meter golds, he most likely would.
@@ryanjohnson7161 Opoko's also 66kg (145lbs) compared to Blaine's 178kg (390lb) competition weight. Both get the same 2 meter wraps. It won't hurt to try the titaniums, it probably depends on how big your legs are and how tight you can wrap them. If you compete, it probably would be a good idea to have someone who knows what they are doing wrap you. Tighter is better. Obviously you'd need to do it in training first to get used to it. And you'd need to build up to handling much tighter wraps as well (one concern is pitching a nerve and that wouldn't be good lol).
I like Blaine's explanation of both raw and equiped lifting. Nothing against him. I get the whole equiped for training purposes but I don't get the competition part. Squat, deadlift ya maybe but the bench is just rediculus. The percentage gain in a bench shirt is huge! 530 raw to around 900ibs in a shirt! Come on! I use the slingshot for training but I can't say my bench is based on a slingshot max! Just my opinion.
Jacare1973 shirt and slingshot are totally different to use. Anyone could use a slingshot takes not skill
Music at the start?
The only thing I hate about equipped is bench because it looks goofy
Is that a 3xl jts shirt? I wear a 4 but if it fits him I imagine I could wear it
daniel evans yes it is
hey Chad, have you ever considered cutting a bit of weight to see how'd you look? this is a serious question, im not calling you fat or anything of the sorts.
check out Chad now - he's been actively cutting.
Wroçław = Rotslav
Raw = running barefoot
Single Ply = running with shoes
Multiply = riding a bike
The analogy I find most applicable is High Jump vs Pole Vault. Both trying to launch over the highest bar possible, one goes higher by technically manipulating an object beyond their body. Single vs Multiply would just be analogous to the stiffness/length of the pole which for vaulting requires more speed/precision to maximize the effectiveness of.
And the chalk on the face is a dude pushing you as you jump. :P
"Hurr Durr I use suits so I'm better."
"Hurr Durr It's just harder"
"Hurr Durr I'm a better powerlifter even though I cant beat Williams"
Boy ya betta be on som bombaclot grass for these aguments to not sound so ignant ma breda
Lol wanna talk about ignorant?
Strengthletics you’re an idiot and a hater
Strengthletics He was literally just describing his preferences, he wasn’t saying that raw is worse or better.
I love Blaine, but benching in a shirt even single ply looks like garbage. It is 100% unrelatable to someone who benches raw, and as someone who has worn a single ply suit on all three lifts, yes you will instantly lift more, why lie
That's a joke. My first 3-4 times in a bench shirt, I couldn't touch my chest and I continually dumped the bar towards my face. It's not like you throw the gear on and you are immediately totaling 200 kg more. It takes some time to figure out how to work the gear to even lift to the correct standards of a meet. So he's absolutely not lying.
Now I definitely didn't say you'd be ready to compete but the first training session with f6 I eventually was able to touch and perform singles, and the bench shirt has the largest learning curve it was much easier to use a squat suit and and deadlift suit
KaoKao the katana has a pretty crazy learning curve lol , I must say I've always been more impressed by geared lifters, even years before I tried it
Mat Coddy I agree it clearly is a skill, and I totally respect the skill even multiply lifting is an art.
yet I still always come back to those bench presses as the one reason I can't take it seriously, guys who can only bench 6's maybe hitting well over 1000lbs or even Blaine hitting 900 in single ply. It's just too far removed from the original
+KaoKao ya the carryover from singleply katanas (like blaines) is insane , that type of carryover used to only be open back multiply shirts... my coach actually was the head judge for him last year at the 2106 arnold , for his world record bench
2015 raw worlds was a nail biter between you and ray. such a good battle