How To Deal With Setbacks

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
  • Dalton Caldwell and Michael Seibel discuss the best approaches to managing the many setbacks startup founders can face over the lifetime of starting and running a business.
    Apply to Y Combinator: yc.link/DandM-apply
    Work at a Startup: yc.link/DandM-jobs
    Chapters (Powered by bit.ly/chapterme-yc) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:26 - Punches that land
    01:04 - The setback cycle
    02:05 - Fundraising
    04:27 - YC - No for now
    05:42 - Survivorship bias
    06:28 - Co-founders
    08:02 - The magical deal
    09:15 - After the deal, credits don't roll
    11:21 - A bad launch
    13:28 - Movie mess us up
    15:27 - Getting sued
    16:51 - Silver linings
    18:44 - You are the example
    20:00 - Taking stock
    20:50 - Worst case analysis
    22:00 - Wrap up
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  • @TravelingNomad488
    @TravelingNomad488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    We didn't get into YC this time, but I appreciate the opportunity to apply and fight. We will definitely be back and will see you guys in the ring soon! 🥊

    • @pantore5313
      @pantore5313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Keep working towards growing your business and apply again, I'm sure you can do it. Good luck from Pantore W22!

    • @yuqili657
      @yuqili657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here, we were rejected after interviews, and my co-founders were gone. Though, I will be back for sure, even if just with myself and with a better product. I said so to my interviewer too

    • @xavierlesage5619
      @xavierlesage5619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It took us 7 attempts to get into YC. You got this. Don't give up.

    • @productivitymonster
      @productivitymonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same for me, gonna again, third time

    • @alexanderprice2116
      @alexanderprice2116 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got rejected at the same point in time as feeling this idea I set on has zero traction so basically problems all around 😂😂😂.
      Did you apply for this most recent batch? No shame if you didn't, I think most people give up and this is probably a good sign for them that this isn't the right path for them

  • @productivitymonster
    @productivitymonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think YC channel is the only source of valid startup information out there on youtube. I've been doing startups for the last 7 years, and it's so hard to find people who really understand what startups are, least to say they can say something meaningful about it

    • @alexanderprice2116
      @alexanderprice2116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm beginning to agree. I've been led astray so many times.
      But also, this YC channel and the essays sometimes can super lead you astray if you don't really really understand what these guys are saying. I'm learning to apply the 5 why's to what they are saying to understand it better.
      Up until recently I'd think I'd understand, go try to use this wisdom and apply it, to only find out I didn't really understand 😅

  • @jerryoverton7037
    @jerryoverton7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    OMG, I had tears in my eyes laughing as I listened. Thanks for putting out content like this. Crappiness is so much easier to deal with when you know it's coming.

  • @Ipdxcreative
    @Ipdxcreative หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how much fun they have doing these talks. Laughing at all our mistakes because they know better. Stoked to continue learning and teaching!

  • @spiritsdontfly
    @spiritsdontfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pertaining to the perception that "everyone is raising":
    During World War II, the Royal Air Force lost a lot of planes to German anti-aircraft fire. So they decided to armor them up. But where to put the armor? The obvious answer was to look at planes that returned from missions, count up the bullet holes in damaged places, and then bolster those areas with extra armor.
    Obvious, but wrong.
    The Hungarian-born mathematician Abraham Wald looked at that problem and then said to add armor to the places with the least amount of bullet holes.
    Why?
    Because the planes that got hit in those places never made it back.
    Likewise, you don't hear from founders who never raised, but they're more common than public perception might have you believe.

  • @MrDeshaunWilkins
    @MrDeshaunWilkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It be sooo cool if YC only accepted startups under the condition they aren't allowed to share this with anyone before demo day. No false sense of achievement, no media, no annoying VCs trying to get your attentions, no lists, no vendors trying to wipe your ... :) And once you get to demo day, you are humble enough to know it was just another step of many more to come

  • @allanshpeley4284
    @allanshpeley4284 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Covid took out about 90% of my business right before I was ready to sell, then I was sued twice for things outside of my control. I'll admit, I let that get to me. Maybe I'm a bit isolated, but it's nice to hear this kind of thing is normal. Thanks for the stoic wisdom - I need to apply it more in my life and my business.

  • @HopeAdoli
    @HopeAdoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My goodness I love this videos. As a first time founder, you've taught me so much in the past 5 months. I'm always on the lookout for the next upload.

  • @chapterme
    @chapterme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:26 - What types of punches land?
    01:04 - The setback cycle
    02:05 - Investors and Fundraising
    04:27 - YC - No for now
    05:42 - Survivorship bias
    06:28 - Co-founders
    08:02 - The magical deal
    09:15 - After the deal, credits don't roll
    11:21 - A bad launch
    13:28 - Movie mess us up
    15:27 - Legal - Getting sued
    16:51 - Silver linings
    18:44 - You are the example
    20:00 - Inventory - Taking stock
    20:50 - Worst case analysis
    22:00 - Wrap up

  • @AlexanderLouizosLouizos
    @AlexanderLouizosLouizos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The rollercoaster is more intense when you experience it. Thank you for sharing your wisdom

  • @productivitymonster
    @productivitymonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think startup founders deal with the most number of setbacks in their lives in comparison to traditional entrepreneurs and least to say employees of big corporations, because the startups face so many challenges, because they are the ones who are against the crowrd and who everybody would resist because they would treat you as a unwelcomed newcomer. And only true athletes can persevere through this nightmare and win.

    • @temporallabsol9531
      @temporallabsol9531 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've come and gone a few times. This time has been different. This time is also not believed by everyone mostly because they don't get the tech.
      It's all a learning experience. Learn the lesson and implement your lesson.

  • @_asimaslam
    @_asimaslam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The content is so good but that's not what makes this series great. The dynamic and comedic humour between Michael and Dalton is amazing!

  • @tracytardia9658
    @tracytardia9658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing this Dalton & Michael. Just facing some setbacks and this video pop out. I thought at first I already immune with the setbacks but turn out setbacks is setbacks. Watching this such a mood booster!!
    Keep on fighting for all the founders out there!

  • @jpgarcia90
    @jpgarcia90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this was fun to watch. I feel totally identified. My daily emotional spike is refreshing mixpanel and getting excited about some activity before realizing it was actually me testing something!

    • @calum6282
      @calum6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ahhhh this! But then it's so much more exciting when it wasn't you testing!

    • @carlatashkadeh5890
      @carlatashkadeh5890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahaha that’s so sweet and relatable

    • @kmh27pk
      @kmh27pk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha, so relatable. This is why we put it a isTester flag for all employees

    • @alexanderprice2116
      @alexanderprice2116 ปีที่แล้ว

      This advise might just be for me -
      But I've realized when I'm in this stage I'm not talking to customers enough and I'm not watching them use my product in front of me

  • @bmejia220
    @bmejia220 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video for every founder. Honest and motivating. So Much appreciated!

  • @EveryBudiAmerica
    @EveryBudiAmerica ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching some of your videos lately. You guys are awesome. Thanks so much for your generosity.

  • @aquinas_choi
    @aquinas_choi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite youtube show michael & dalton

  • @braulioramirez7772
    @braulioramirez7772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video, thanks for letting us know about how the real path looks like and helping us learn from that. The unreal and fantasy founder life can sometimes be overwhealming when is constantly compared with reality.

  • @tobiasungerer3306
    @tobiasungerer3306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pure stoicism at the end. Ryan Holiday would be proud of you guys - and I am too. Best advice: Control your reaction. Thx for the great video.

  • @taman_sharif
    @taman_sharif 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you folks putting up such an enjoyable yet valuable talk

  • @productivitymonster
    @productivitymonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you have to be a born fighter that wants to become a hero, it's like a medievil version of knights, to be a startup founder in the current generation I would say

  • @KenzoGanbat
    @KenzoGanbat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This one is so good. Thanks guys!

  • @martinstine
    @martinstine ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job Dalton and Michael. Great one YC

  • @enDutime
    @enDutime ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing video. Who ever the subject of this video must of really earned and deserved that much public shaming and ridicule.
    I’m rooting for you man, keep your head up, you got this!!

  • @abiabi6733
    @abiabi6733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am learning a lot in this channel, it is a LOT

  • @victorokello9611
    @victorokello9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good time gaining valuable insights

  • @21copyCat
    @21copyCat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing about setback is - once it happened- how do you know you are not in the idea trap?

  • @toc7olwn680
    @toc7olwn680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it, ty guys *takes a punch*

  • @DerDudelino
    @DerDudelino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are building an NFT exchange for video games called FiPME and I vividly remember how much excitement was around the launch. We thought it would be this massive deal and then you have like a couple 100 people testing your product. Which is cool and fun, and it's nice to read the feedback. But it's not like a Hollywood premiere. What's a launch for you, is kind of a normal day for your first users and it tends to be a rather stressful one, because there are always bugs to fix and stuff that doesn't work :O)

  • @o.h.w.6638
    @o.h.w.6638 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When one door closes, another opens. I keep forgetting that. Thanks for the reminder.

  • @DenisElkin
    @DenisElkin ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!

  • @munashemaruta8656
    @munashemaruta8656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an hilarious yet informative conversation 😭

  • @leafhappy
    @leafhappy ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks for that, please keep the ESPN-style rundowns coming

  • @michaelgonline
    @michaelgonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video. Story of my life

  • @TanSatori
    @TanSatori 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dalton is so funny. Great chemistry between these two as well

  • @vladimirtsarapkin2840
    @vladimirtsarapkin2840 ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds real, sounds tough, sounds inspiring

  • @FahmiEshaq
    @FahmiEshaq ปีที่แล้ว

    Both of you guys click really well... Keep it up

  • @karenrowe4872
    @karenrowe4872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love their chats

  • @Dinesh-tt3vw
    @Dinesh-tt3vw ปีที่แล้ว

    A bad launch is really fun!
    Much much relatable 😅😅

  • @carlatashkadeh5890
    @carlatashkadeh5890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any founder getting into YC should get a “I love getting punched in the face” t-shirt

  • @expertociber
    @expertociber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks guys!
    The launch and nobody cares is hard, even if you know its a posibility
    Edit: The wrap up was really stoic

  • @lalahorse1990
    @lalahorse1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG, you guys kill me! Hahaha! Comic relief, as well as words of wisdom, for founders :)

  • @nvrluki7608
    @nvrluki7608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is funny as heck and definitely true~!

  • @imranbanani5717
    @imranbanani5717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute gold

  • @zeeradj1982
    @zeeradj1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fun!

  • @ashesforsunshine
    @ashesforsunshine ปีที่แล้ว

    I love their nervous giggles when they have flashbacks from their setback PTSD XD XD

  • @stargazertales5792
    @stargazertales5792 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know a good startup story? A business launch that ends with a boyz n the hood like story the death of something good starting up but remaining hopeful ready to move forward with the mission of business for his local community.

  • @alexanderprice2116
    @alexanderprice2116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im definitely on the spectrum of having a hard time dealing with setbacks 😂😂. I'm working on it!
    But also, those who are too optimistic in setbacks scare me a bit. Not those that recover quickly, but those who say everything IS fine and does nothing to fix it 😅

    • @leonorparis
      @leonorparis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i feel like im the optimist who is in denial & does nothing to fix the problem 💀💀

  • @theni3762
    @theni3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my company just got turned down by Michael himself yesterday after an interview xD
    Hey Michael if you see this, can you make a video explaining why you thought "audiences of a specific type of content creator" wasn't a good user group even if they have clearer pain points + there's a specific way to market to them? I'm still confused by why you couldn't take that as a user group.
    Someone asked for more details, so here's the full story:
    Basically, my startup makes a robotic cooktop platform that connects recipe creators to their audience. In the first 3-4 minutes of the 10 minutes interview, which we're supposed to start with a short pitch, I got cut by Michael about 20s in when I talked about the creator's pain points. He questioned me why I even cared about the creators and asked me to get to the users, "who are the users?" I explained that the users are audiences of recipe creators. And I think somewhere here we kept cutting each other off because I didn't feel like he was letting me explain and he didn't feel like I was answering his question upfront. But finally, he basically rephrased the question to "no are they men/women, young/old, what do they do, etc?" And I was forced out an answer of "it would start with young tech workers in the bay area" that was pretty misleading because the product was never designed specifically for them, I just happened to talk to many of them around me but the product was designed specifically for the user group I stated: audiences of food recipe creators. I had to say that though because we already wasted 3-4 minutes cutting each other off and we would have been stuck here for the whole interview if I tried more.
    This whole situation felt worse because I specifically emailed YC beforehand, asking if I should expect the interviewer to have read my application, explaining that it really messes with my logic to not know this. They replied that I should expect that. But many questions made me feel like maybe they haven't read the application, which got me into a state of not knowing if I should answer something already included in the application.
    Anyways, in the night, we were rejected for the reason: "we (my interviewers) worried that the problem you’re trying to solve is not a big enough pain point for young tech workers in the bay area to sustain such a massive undertaking." I totally agree, but that was a forced answer which isn't really the user group we designed the product for. The pain point for the audience of cooking influencers is much bigger because influencers told me that 99%+ of the people that watch their cooking video or Instagram post don't finally get to eat what they saw. They most likely wanted to eat it but meal planning + shopping + cooking + cleaning was way too much for them, but we do all that for them! Another interesting fact? Cooking influencers have never been able to make money in the Food market! The cooking equipment market (hundreds of times smaller) is the closest they could get.

    • @nbhhcghgfyg
      @nbhhcghgfyg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your Instagram 🙌?

    • @vlogmoinc5597
      @vlogmoinc5597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kpi

    • @theni3762
      @theni3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vlogmoinc5597 that's more like revenue right? how does it have to do with users?

    • @777Kiq
      @777Kiq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you give us more details?

    • @theni3762
      @theni3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@777Kiq I updated the post with more details :)

  • @martinhane6667
    @martinhane6667 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Read the stoics! And practice it. You get better on it over time

  • @eduardogalvan5505
    @eduardogalvan5505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing. Now I know I´m not alone lol

  • @markmonta
    @markmonta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In summary of the summary, mental fitness is key

  • @vlogmoinc5597
    @vlogmoinc5597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the github approach . Bootstrap then have investors chase you

    • @damicole9500
      @damicole9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bootstrapping is not as easy as it sounds… you need a good product, good cash flow and good team to do this.

  • @lukaskondrusevicius5065
    @lukaskondrusevicius5065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should be called "Stoic Combinator" :)

  • @vicious8677
    @vicious8677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi!
    I am a first year college student from Bangalore,
    Can I also join the startup school program??

    • @mdh.4231
      @mdh.4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah free for anyone

    • @vicious8677
      @vicious8677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdh.4231 Thanks for replying

  • @ironscalp2241
    @ironscalp2241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Everyone has a plan, till they get punched in the face". Mike Tyson

  • @greatmouhcine
    @greatmouhcine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I laughed so HARD.... that's a first for a video about startups

  • @mdh.4231
    @mdh.4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does Michael reply to cold emails with questions??

    • @MisterSomm
      @MisterSomm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He does! He did it for me. Real nice guy!

    • @mdh.4231
      @mdh.4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, could you please tell me the email that you used

  • @founderbounty
    @founderbounty ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed!

  • @gdunn3420
    @gdunn3420 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:46 really killed me lmao

  • @yaelfelicia5820
    @yaelfelicia5820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was hilarious and could not be more true 😂

  • @joshchoixyz
    @joshchoixyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael Seibel has the best laugh lol

  • @fmparrott5485
    @fmparrott5485 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s crazy is the worst people to tell about set backs are people who care about you.

  • @waymanharris1284
    @waymanharris1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Awesome

  • @exerscreen2525
    @exerscreen2525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha "getting punched is the sport." I think I'm starting to understand why, um, my "friend" is into this.

  • @RoadmapMBA
    @RoadmapMBA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear Dalton wears the same shirt in every video 🤣🤣 👕

  • @YasinNabi
    @YasinNabi ปีที่แล้ว

    Too many people spend money they earned..to buy things they don't want..to impress people that they don't like. --Will Rogers

  • @jakobkristensen2390
    @jakobkristensen2390 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is hilarious 😂❤

  • @georgeslivka412
    @georgeslivka412 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am special🥺

  • @toc7olwn680
    @toc7olwn680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seibel looks/sounds like he just woke up here😀...we don't love you any less tho Seibel ☺️

  • @mateuz8038
    @mateuz8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna be the mayweather of startups 😮

    • @albert_jo
      @albert_jo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      which era? pretty boy floyd era - aggressive, disruptive, and explosive? or the money-may era - calculated, defense-oriented, and crafty

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    @romanerrandonea7791 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @georgeslivka412
    @georgeslivka412 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was arrested🥺

  • @VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER
    @VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These guys make me depressed lol

  • @KenanSeyidov
    @KenanSeyidov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol