Anglo Dutch War naval wargaming
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2021
- A Mad for War naval gaming tutorial explaining ship versus ship combat. Featuring Maarten Tromp's flagship Brederode against Robert Blake's James in 1652. The rules will be out in Spring 2021. The ship models are 1/1200 scale from the new Ark Royal Miniatures range.
Gotta say I found your channel and blog through this video. I'd been looking for a good anglo-dutch era set of naval rules and this looks perfect! Now I just need to pressgang my friends into playing with me.
Have you started yet?
Excellent battle report Barry, I like how intuitive the rules seem and the models are very nicely painted
Thanks Lee. It is a neat system and easy to pick up so, intuitive is a good word. I am really enjoying naval gaming it has much less predictabiity than land based conflicts.
Easily your best video yet. Without being familiar with your rules, it was easy to follow. Just a suggestion - consider the audio effect of the guns firing when you roll the dice.
Appreciated Gee. Can you elborate on the guns point. You mean they should be quieter? thanks
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 I was thinking that in the edit, you could show footage of the combat dice roll and as the numbers roll up then overlay the audio of the gun shots. In my massively inexpert opinion (and never having dared to do what you are already doing so well) I thought it might pack more of a punch. It's just an idea.
@@geebards Always up for ideas! Let's see if I can use it next time!
Yes i gotta get those water explosions...im doing pnobscot bay with sails o glory rules...which i would say feels more like rolling cannon fire than throwing dice
Good luck with the project
Delightful, very well done
Thank you!
These ships are gorgeous, much better than mines...Excellent video, impressive way of filming... 👍👍😍
Appreciated Phil - I enjoy doing the ships a lot and looking forward to releasing the range very soon.
Thanks, Barry! Great battle report and video!!
Appreciated John. I hope you and Terry and getting the hang of it now!
Looks great fun Barry, from a landlubber!
You'll find your sea legs soon enough! Come in! The water is lovely! :)
Barry Just Awesome bud??????? tucking away some for this man
Thanks Johnny. I haven't had as much fun in years!
Excellent video Barry. Sound was great - could hear you clearly and the creaking timber’s and other ship noises were loud enough to add that sense of atmosphere. Now when are the rules coming out?
Glad you are happy Joe! :). Keep an eye on the blog - we are going to issue a little taster set soon to keep everyone happy as we finish the full blown version. Games will be possible with the taster, it will have the core stuff to get your ships on the table. Witin two weeks for that I think.
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 I better get my skates on and buy some ships! I'm not a fan of the 1/2400 - too small for my eyes and fingers so intend to go for the 1/1200. I know of Langton but anyone else that you have come across in your research?
@@joem8234 These are 1/1200 Joe. Yes I have come up with someone else - Us! We have a new 1/1200 range which will be released at the same time as the rules. The Brederode model is Langton. The James is from our range. I am surprised no one has spotted thhem in all the photos yet!
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 Fantastic news Barry - you can sign me up for as fleet :) I thought the models looked larger than 1/2400 but given your other blogs assumed it was just your model making expertise that made them look so good. Glad you have gone for 1/1200 as I think it’s a great scale for ships up to the Napoleonic wars.
@@joem8234 I will start explaining the range soon Joe on both video and the Blog. It is pretty extensive already so on release, gamers can actually buy an entire fleet from 1st rates to fireships, tenders, shallops. pinnaces - the lot.
I really enjoyed the battle report and excellent ships too. That said, as an old Age of Sail wargamer, it seems that these old clunky ships are moving around the table like the sleek greyhounds of over 100 years in the future. Ships dependent on whipstaffs for turning could not turn on a sixpence like their future relatives. Rod Langton holds their turns to 22 1/2 degrees, going into the wind, and only allows 45 degrees when turning away. He specifically states that vessels running before the wind, as Brederode was doing, can only turn 22 1/2 degrees port or starboard. My period is Napoleonic, so I'm not saying that the info is set in stone. Again, I enjoyed the battle and plan to buy "Mad for War" when it comes out. I also especially like the fact that you were careful to pronounce the Dutch words properly. It shows a degree of scholarship most gamers don't bother to master.
Great points Barry and thanks for the kind words. Therein though, lies the rub. Encouraging people into a period means certain compromises must be made for enjoyment and excitement value alone. Historical accuracy to varying degrees makes for very dull wargaming. As it is a gaming convention to compress time and accentuate activity, compromises need to be made. Otherwise, you lose your audience. It may be right, but its bloody dull! No disrespect intended to Rod or any other experts but one of the reasons our hobby is so esoteric is the endless series of entry barriers placed up be the gatekeepers of detail. A degree in sailing or understanding the 30+ pike drill movements does not create 'lean in' to our little world. I have been fighting in the vanguard of that change a la tricornes or floppy hats for 30 years! Glad you are aboard!
Quality bat rep man. How did you make the table its incredible?
Thanks, you will find the 'How to' here on my blog: leagueofaugsburg.blogspot.com/2020/02/sea-what-i-mean.html
Great stuff! Really looking forward to the release!
Did I get it right that your ship range will be in 1/1200? And those used in this battlereport are examples from the range?
Yes Ark Royal Miniatures's ships are 1/1200. The will begin release in May 2021. James in this video is Ark Royal. Brederode is Langton 60. Shows the compatibility of both ranges. More Ark Royal ships can be seen in the other Mad for War videos. The Ship guide video shows most in one place.
Excellent! And thank you for such quick reply. Really looking forward to this.
As usually great video. We want more :) Can you please post site address of manufacturer of the ships?
www.leagueofaugsburg.com - they will be here soon! :)
Blake was a excellent General at sea and was an experienced Army commander of repute in the Parliamentary army during the first civil war
and admiral Nelson quoted Blake's prowess at the battle of Santa Cruz harbour Tenerife in 1657......I know this as I live in Bridgwater and
I just watched a brief history of Blake before seeing this link....lol ....3.0 Who was General-at-Sea ('Admiral') Robert Blake? 9 mins ....th-cam.com/video/6tlDZEGWAMI/w-d-xo.html
Fantasy Island, the Story of the Other Battle of Santa Cruz ..... therealtenerife.com/posts/fantasy-island-the-story-of-the-other-battle-of-santa-cruz/
At Bridgwater museum which is the house where Robert Blake was born there is an exhibit room of his life as well as at the Taunton County museum
where Blake found fame defending Lyme Regis and later Taunton in sieges from Royalist forces before capturing Dunster castle from said forces
during the first civil war, he took no part in the second and the death of King Charles.....The Ultimate Guide To Admiral Blake ... 29 mins... th-cam.com/video/nwVRHhWR-lo/w-d-xo.html
Very useful Stephen, thanks for the links
Question, how did you make those water explosions?
Those are purchased from Langton Miniatures
Got more of these?
There are quite a few
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 i meant like new random scenario battle reports :) id love to watch you just play the game :)
Amazing. Candthis be played with another scale than 1:1200? like 1:600 - 1:800 ?
Yes, I have answered you on Facebook Jean-Kristof but it could be played in all of the stated scales.
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 Thank You! It seems that 1:1200 is used more widely anyway, and for more games, so I might just go with that scale. Moreover, your ships look amazing. I can't wait to see them for sale! May 2021 I believe you said?
@@MonteKristof yes indeed. You can follow the pre release information here, on the leagueofaugsburgblogspot and on Facebook at League of Augsburg.
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 Thank you for all your help! I purchased the Mad for War essential and can't wait to have a look at it.
I'm probably wrong but it looks a little like luck trumped tactics in this demo.
I would totally agree John. This is not uncommon in war though. What about Hampshire battering Pelican in Hudson's Bay in 1697. As Captain Fletcher toasted the bravery of his doomed yet defiant enemy d'Iberville with a goblet of wine, his own magazine blew up and his ship sunk! That's war at sea!
@@leagueofaugsburg9036 thanks for the prompt reply.
You're right and that's probably a large part of the charm of the period.
If I wanted a pure test of tactical skill, I'd play chess - at which I'm atrociously bad. 😊
The depth of your scholarship and infectious enthusiasm are tempting me sorely to a purchase in an area where I have and had neither.
@@johnrohde5510 Well John, the entry level risk is very low and that is why I have arranged things this way - Essentials rules at £5 incuding cut out ships, scenario packs at £3 or £4. Lots of video support and Facebook group etc. Add it up an its not even the price of a fast food meal for two or three people. You could also say you didn't like it afterward but honestly, I have never thrown myself into a period this wholeheartedly since I started with the LoA 30 years ago. It is just endless, discovery and fun. oh, and most of it I have done solo too!