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the more I watch this season the more I'm convinced Christina and Maya are in FUTUREWORLD - this season (and much of last season) seems to be revisiting many of the themes and storylines from that movie - and that shot of Charlotte inside The Tower with a map of New York in the centre, just like the map of Westworld, speaks volumes...
Thanks for the clarifications, I always check to make sure I’m not missing something. This episode felt almost like a season finale! It filled in some gaps from the prior episodes but still leaves many things unexplained as it should. I think Bernard has basically met with some sort of resistance and Maeve will play a key role in the season - as she should because her talents as an actor and her character in the show is in my opinion indispensable. Not quite sure why Hale is working on a fidelity test, unless she’s partnered with an important human that has made a bargain with her that he or she won’t turn into a host. Or maybe I’m completely wrong here. I do like how it cleared up to me that we are watching scenes that are 23 years apart from each other, which is an easier way to understand alternate timeline. However, this is Westworld and rarely are things that simple, and nothing is what is seems!
@@bobbyCruiser I think they want Caleb to lure C out of hiding. If she's a resistance leader, and she's really only looking for Caleb, having a copy of him will get her to show up for a trap, certainly, or at the very least, use him as a mole.
Another guess of mine: in the "New New York" some host are living amongst the infected humans, one of them is Christina. She is 100% a copy of Dolores, an homage if you want, made by Halores to tribute her former self. The intresting thing is the role those hosts have: like the company name Olympiad suggests they're empowered with Gods powers. Christina can create narratives for humans as much as human created narratives for them back in the park. This is maybe why Olympiad logo is just a mirror reflection of Delos'
It also explains the suicide that was stalking Christina. He was clearly aware of her control, it's just she thinks she's just writing videogame stories. It also explains why her boss wants more violent stories, they're definitely trying to do to humans what was done to them. What an episode!
The only thing I dont understand is, why Halores would make a copy on Dolores. Like Halores knows Dolores is always made to break free. So im not sure why she would make a copy of her just to have Dolores break free and potentially win
Theory about Christina: When Serac copied Dolores's memories into Rehoboam in S3 and erased them in Dolores herself, the process erased her memories but not her core programming. She was still alive, just without access to her long experiential track. Flash forward and I think Christina is that Dolores - basic program, personality, sweetness, naivete - the farm girl transferred into a job in New New York. Not sure who would have done this. Maybe Maeve most likely. At some point, Christina will either be able to access those lost memories or someone will restore her. Maybe Teddy is the one to do that - depending on who Teddy really is in S4 and who sent him to find Dolores/Christina.
For me Christina/Dolores is the biggest mystery this season because no matter how I come at the situation things don't make sense. Lets observe your theory that Maeve planted Dolores in this future NY. Dolores works though in the headquarters building that Charlotte is working in as we see Caleb run out of the exact same building. Because of this we can assume Charlotte knows about Dolores so why would she keep her in the city? The second theory is that Charlotte placed Dolores here but again the question is why? She knows what Dolores is capable of and I don't see Charlotte taking the risk of Dolores again breaking the loop and rebelling. Then there's Teddy. Was he sent by the resistance forces to break Dolores out of her loop or was he made by Charlotte to keep Dolores in her loop? The rest of the season regarding Caleb, and Franky, and Bernard I've been able to figure out along the way but this part has me stumped at the moment.
Another theory: I am not so sure that Caleb is dead. Hale has kept William alive partly so she can copy him over and over. Did she do the same with Caleb? Is he in a deep freeze like human William?
I absolutely think that. Haleores has a HUGE sadistic/megalomaniacal streak, and keeping William and Caleb alive just to mentally f*ck with them and research them would please her twisted psyche immensely.
I'm still confused about the copying of William. Did they finally perfect copying and transferring the mind of humans into host bodies? I'm referring to the James Delos experiments.
@@siIIiest No, if I'm not mistaken the host version of William is something Hale-Dolores created from her memories of him -- just like Ford recreated Arnold as Bernard, but without the "secret identity" (meaning William knows he's a host)
This episode gave far more answers than I was expecting! 9/10 I assumed Caleb would eventually become a host, but this isn’t how I saw it being revealed. This is probably the biggest shock this show has provided for me since William killed his daughter in 2x9.
why did you assume that Caleb will become a host? I don't get it.. I mean didn't Delos need years of data about the individual to actually create a real beliveable copy? How does Helores has Caleb's data, he was never in the park to begin with.. I mean you can say that Rehoboam had data about him but not about his consciousness and Rehoboam was destroyed.. it's beliveable with Mib but it is not belvieable with Caleb
@@a9183 the Delos project was secret, the military/government did not know about it.. I rly doubt they would have risked everything for that little data.. plus even if you are right that is not even enough data, the whole point was to watch the individual constantly and record their thoughts/decisions so they could create a real copy
So Caleb and Maeve's storyline has been 23 years in the past up until the end of this episode and finally caught up to the other storylines and Hale kept Caleb alive because he disobeyed her and she's been trying to figure out how he did it this whole time?
11:43 - you can see a double-pronged tower in the center of the red map, which seems to correspond to the view from the window. The red map has another tower right next to it, with a loop on the top... but no such tower is visible in the view from the window.
She is reviving Caleb as a host specifically to end the rebellion that Frankie is in charge of. The only question I have is how they got insufficient mental data for him to create a robot copy when he never went to the park and he only had a very limited time of his brain being scanned when he was a soldier for that training exercise
didnt the man in black say at the beginning i want those files when he had that guy get infected by flies and kill everyone. i bet he got the file there as a giant database
he was in the park as a soldier in training. Also i bet he’s not really dead but in stasis like William is. And that’s why she waited 23 years (and 287 copies of Caleb) because she couldn’t perfect his copy yet.
Ye Gods, I hope so! I don’t have HBO so when I see a Caleb centered episode, I roll my eyes. I don’t think Aaron Paul is a bad actor but he seems to take the same average Joe stuck in a crappy situation roles. Both Caleb and Hale are my least favorite characters so it is nice to have Teddy come back at least. :/
Even the symbolism in this show is multi-layered. I thought the transmitters and the tower top looked like spindles fitting in with this theme of Halores "spinning the web". I like the plumbbob idea as well 👍🏻.
Oh man.. someone already predicted all of this, cant believe we going on that haxdogma route.. we are going to witness the same massacre but its on the human this time..
I wonder what happened to Serac from Season 3? As far as I know he was injured but alive at the end of Season 3. Did he die? Was he made a “host” and made a slave by the flies? I am curious.
I didn't expect much from this season as even Bernard said in an interview that this season isn't as crazy as s3 but this episode definitely upped the ante.
From what I see Hail goal is vengeance. What christina doing is either 1.she is programmed by Hail to create a new host to be born and propagate this new world , a key to awaken host is suffering but i doubt this option 2.making a story of how a human will suffer. All host are now deciding how to play human in a story of their choosing just like how human play and kill host in the park like a toy. Her manager nudge her into more violent story because of Hail want to make human suffer and slowly die off. But christina like dolores doesn’t choose vengeance but choose to see the beauty and trying to escape her loop. It possible that she is also reawaken and a memory of Cole? from the past before Hail completely take over is overlap just like the first season. The wound on her arm is either illusion or her roommate somehow cut her since all human are now seem to be accompany a host to help them go out and have a social life(awake?). I’m not sure why Hail remade Dolores it could be she want her to live in this world where they win or she trying to find the key to unlock robot paradise, for that she need dolores to come back. But then why continue this fidelity project? Oh god, is this I have no mouth and i must scream…
Practically my thoughts! Except that I think Hale doesn't want Christine to be self-aware, but just uses her as a labor force. And Teddy may have been sent to Cristina by Bernard and Maeve to awaken the real Dolores in her to help them fight against Hale.
I guessed it before Bernard found her !! So satisfying to see him find Maeve & get confirmation on the timelines- I also really thought Caleb was a host but last episode thought that wasn’t going to happen so very interesting switch up there- I’m dying for the real William to break out & I hope that happens are some point this season
ca. 48:27 in Episode 5:8 "Emmett told her the truth" This sentence is written in the past tense. How to understand? Is it actually written by a Christina outside of this world?
Well, we did call Caleb a host in season 3. The tower was called/explained by the homeless guy in episode 1 ... so that was due ... but Caleb in fidelity ... nice one.
I think that we're going to see that just because it's a synthetic world with more control, it's still one that stems from our current one, and thus still has things like capitalism and class issues. This leads into my theory about Christina and Teddy. I think Teddy might be an executive at Olympiad/Delos a la Christina's employer. This would be how he could have access to his previous identity and what the maze means or his apparent awakening from a daily grind. Still confused about Christina's role in Peter's death and and the timeline is still muddy for me, but I like this season SO much more than season 3 and a lot more than season 2.
Maive was fighting in the past, where William said he got to all her friends in Dreamworld. But Bernard is in the future, where he spent X years connected to that dreamworld (or whatever its called). So was William lying?
i think william really just meant that maeve's allies were gone - clem, hector etc. dolores doesn't have any incentive to destroy bernard when he holds the key to the sublime, and he and maeve haven't always been allies.
U forgot the small white antenna 📡 that look like lamps , just outside the headquarter . last episode lamps was seen when everyone gets frozen . 11:18 lamps / mini 📡
Teddy my be the informant that tells Jay about Cristina/Dolores outlier. When Maeve tell see you in another life is predicting her return in the future, and maybe predicting that she and Caleb and William will be meeting again in the future, maybe fighting
It was a great episode, but the Frankie - C reveal was obvious from the previous episode; and the dig site - "weapon" =Maeve too But it was a really good episode.
I don't mind having to pay attention when watching TV, but eff me.. This is exhausting. And feels sometimes like they weren't really sure about where to take the story and characters right up to when they rolled cameras.
but how did someone stabs Caleb in the park? the knife or the guns should not work on humans in the park even if a human used against a human, otherwise, any human guest can kill another human guest by accident!!
They said that 'Dolores we know is dead' but that is not actually true.In season three, Hale takes that harmed Dolores pearl with her and i think with downloading that to an another pearl,you can create the Non-Hale Dolores.I wonder if the creators consider doing that.And this Dolores will kill the Hale-Dolores at the end-that would be awesome.
The fact all the humans left on earth wear white, black, grey or a beige colour makes me think Halores has put them all in sub groups. Like white vs black as a choice in the parks. Only slightly more complex.
I'm so lost at this point but I don't even really care like that's just kinda how this show works now ✌😂💓 just when you think you're starting to understand the show completely pivots to throw you off track so I'm just like...welp this'll make sense eventually 😂 I'll stick it out
Just when I thought this season was kinda meh, they go and drop this one on us. Well played Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan. I hope that the Christina and Teddy plot will be something worthwhile instead of just having Evan Rachel Wood in any role because the show would be weird without her.
Also, did everyone just forget about host William walking into the forge in the post credits of season 2 where he sees his daughter Emily but she’s obviously a host? It’s clear that takes place WAY in the future, but how does season 4’s host William go from knowing he’s a host and working for Hale to being lost in his park memories thinking he’s a human who’s shocked to discover he’s been a host all along? It could be a different later copy of him I guess? The parallel between Hale telling host Caleb that he’s a fidelity test, and host Emily telling William he’s a fidelity test… it seems like it’s going to tie into this season but where and how? Like, after all that time they’re still trying to turn humans to hosts? Was simply controlling humans with flies not enough? The hosts just want to turn every human into a host too? 😂
So many questions. Why can't Maeve be recreated? Also why wasn't she surprised when her gun knocked down William when they first saw each other? If guns in west world can't harm humans she should have been surprised when he went down? Why did she even try to shoot him becauce she presumed him to be human up to that point? I'm thinking she shot him with Calebs real gun and I missed it? It's been almost 3 years since I've seen the last season so forgive me if I missed something? finally I'm 4 episodes in and I can't figure out how Hale/Delores/Wyatt has kept the real William alive but even more so how did she clone a human/host of him? I'm assuming the same way she has done to Caleb?
What are your thoughts on the falling TV ratings for "Westworld"? It's sad that such a great series is slowly dying out. Afraid S4 will end on a cliffhanger and then not continue.
3:18 I have a question regarding Charlotte: At the end of Season 2, Charlotte is going to Country/City as a host. In Season 3 Episode 3, Dolores is seen building Charlotte again. How can this be explained?
S2: Dolores turns into Charlotte, then goes to the real world and brings with her a few copies of herself along with Bernard's copy (5 balls in total). Charlotte/Dolores makes a copy of Dolores as well as brings Bernard back. And she had access to a clone making machine so she could rebuild Charlotte, I don't remember why but yeah.
Charlotte leaving the park was Dolores. she smuggled out six pearls with her. One (i’d just one) is definitely Bernard. I think she rebuilt Bernard and asked him to make a copy of Dolores host and transplant her pearl to the new body. in the process, Charlotte’s host body is destroyed (because they had to extract her pearl). so new Dolores needs to rebuild Charlotte’s body and implant a copy of her pearl inside Charlores to pose as Delos CEO. That’s why Charlores got corrupted because she isn’t OG Dolores but a copy… the definition of “generation lost”. Her experience as “Charlotte” has deviated her from Dolores. The copy always lost something in the process….
@@kash3548 I think she rebuilt Teddy as well and that why he's there. I don't think Hale knows there's another Dolores (Christina) and Teddy out there.
@@jaclynramirez1805 There was no indication that she rebuilt Teddy since Teddy’s consciousness is in the Sublime. The only other hosts that we know Dolores made was Musashi and Lawrence (who never showed up again). I highly doubt Dolores made Teddy - she wanted Teddy to be safe in the Sublime.
No one ever talks about how Delores took Teddy’s pearl after he shot himself. I always assumed one of the pearls she took with her was Teddy but he never showed up until now.
I have a feeling hybrid Caleb and Maeve will get together by the series end and raise Maeves daughter. Caleb's daughter after all is now a grown woman of 30. So she may die in the war still mortal or move on without him with her girlfriend. Caleb himself now is only a few years older than her.
we will maybe in Season 5. Host William never quite achieved fidelity - he never had William’s human nature (the William before he became MIB). the cut scene in S2 is supposed to be thousands of years later in the abandoned forge.
Also i think that cut scene is just a teaser - that somehow William would become a host. and that happened in season 3. so it’s like a “what’s to come” teaser and probably not important to the plot.
@@lynnca86 That's an excellent take. What makes this slightly impossible is the "C" character, where we probably can savely assume that she is Franky, Caleb's daughter, in the future. So it is more likely that Caleb must have survived the lighthouse incident and the part with his family actually happened. At least how Caleb died is at this point up for speculation, since what we saw is only Halores narrative for the host Caleb.
@@Benjamin_An Yes, the first time was real. But I still don't quite understand why they are driving to this construction site at this moment. What is the target to find there at the site? That's not entirely clear to me. You could have gone anywhere you wanted. Why exactly the construction site?
@@ll24studios Yeah, there seems to be something missing. There is also the confusing connection to a "team" that was supposedly sent to rescue them, while it was not established that they had any backup. This whole part seems dubious. However I'm more lenient that the story happened up until the time Caleb passes out. The construction site could have been just a point for their pick-up without deeper meaning, but I guess we will learn more about that in the coming episodes.
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Okay so hear me out. Clearly Hale is one of the most aware characters in this show and I feel like we don’t give her enough credit. She is the embodiment of Delores’ dark side, or at least that’s what most people say these days. I don’t know if I necessarily buy it. I think that Christina is a host created by Hale (or Delores) that is the true “outlier”. I believe that Hale gave Christina actual free will so that the decision of humanity is in her hands. We have been getting subtle foreshadowing on this “decision” that Christina will have to choose between “white or black”, “good or evil”, or “life or death”. Christina is the embodiment of Delores’ innocence. Hale created Christina so that the decision will be made from an unbiased perspective giving Christina the ability to chose for the OG Delores: do we keep humanity in chains, or do we set them free? Hale knows she’s in no position or authority to make that decision, hence why the creation of Christina. I also believe that Arnold foresaw all of the events that we have seen so far unfold. I really think Arnold is still the mastermind in all of this, and that even though he died early, Bernard is still rooted in all of Arnold’s motives. Arnold just wanted AI and humanity to live together in peace, and I see Bernard as the guy who will carry that out. If you have any counters or ideas to add, please respond - i’m really trying to formulate a well thought out theory for the entire show before the end of season 4.
I think Dolores, not the Hale version, created Christina and Teddy. I think Teddy was one of those balls she brought with her to the real world. I dont think Hale created them or knows they're out there. She still using that body, she didn't even make another Dolores body. So I'm guessing she hates that body and wouldn't create another one. Christina might end up being the one to defeat Hale and free everyone. Christina is like the version of Dolores before she became a badass lol. She's gonna start a revolution again but for humans this time.
I thought that aswell, but it doesn't seem likely at this point. At least it would be a massive disappointment, if they chicken out with 'It was all a simulation'.
@@Benjamin_An I think Dolores Christine is in the sublime in this season but not in the previous season. Maeve will be the actual mastermind in control of everything, whether she is good or bad we don't know yet.
No she’s in the present time of New New York. Her roommate mentions the “dream” of her and her parents being swarmed by flies when she was a child, which would be about 20 years in the past since she looks like she’s in her late 20s or early 30s. Christina is a host that unknowingly creates the stories for the humans’ fate, which is why her boss pushes her for more violence, because this is what Hale wants: suffering. The man that attacked her was an outlier and aware of her ability, who she cast aside as a deranged stalker, but that story was written decades ago, and you see this in the abandoned hospital named after the same man who shared the same fate 20 years ago, that had sketches of the tower. The homeless man also mentions the tower and the dead birds the masses can’t see(but Christina did briefly). Charlotte’s world is nearly perfect, but there are defects which is why she keeps going through this fidelity test with “Caleb” to have true subservience.
I feel like the outlier is Teddy, not Christina. He definitely saved her that night, and definitely left that maze drawing on the patio. Idk, like that is very odd behavior for a world controlled by Hale. Maybe he’s trying to awaken something in this version of Dolores.
I think the outlier is Maya - that's why she's having those "so real" dreams - she's able to resist Charlotte's control - at least when she's unconscious
@@maniaq77 Maybe, I reckon the purpose of this scene and Christina asking: "does it look like anything to you", which would usually prompt the famous response 'It doesn't look like anything to me' Illustrates the difference between a Delos host and a Olympiad Hale host.
@@chrisgiles9139 It's just like how the hosts respond to something they aren't programmed to see, which is the tower. Doesn't look like anything to me.
The hosts and humans infected with flies cant see the tower like the hosts in season 1 looking at the picture from outside the park “doesn’t look like anything to me”
I forgot about those tabs! Thanks!. Best episode in a long time! Ok my guess, Teddy says he “was” a “bounty hunter with a heart of gold” I think he was sent by Bernard to find outliers. Dolores is a host “outlier” of sorts as she broke free of her programing (killing the fly) way back. Obviously the human having the ability to “resist” is hereditary as Frankie is resistant just like Caleb (used to be) Maeve is awesome and has sacrificed so much. She is the most humane of all both host and humans as she was lonely and in her weakness she went to peak at what Caleb was up to and gave herself away. Love she’s the ultimate weapon for good! Am I stretching way too much?
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I think Teddy is fully aware that he’s a host, and has all of his memories. The way he references season 1 a bunch, and how when he meets “Christina,” he says “just trying to act chivalrous.” He knows that Christina is Delores and maybe he’s saying all of these things to try and jog her memory, not like he’s programmed to say them anymore. Also, he definitely drew the maze on her balcony in episode 1, so he has to be fully sentient/conscious and is trying to help break her out of her loop so she can remember who she is and maybe help fight Charlotte? Evan Rachel Wood’s Delores only wanted the hosts to be free, not to enslave other humans like Hale does. Maybe we’ll finally get a Maeve/Delores team up!
Hale keeps caleb but leaves the only thing that ever came close to destroying her plans in the sand somehwere? You had 23 years to find Maeves pearl (no pun intended) and crush it, but nooooooo lets play with 278 different version of caleb that makes more sense
Well she had no idea where to look for Maeve's Body?.....I can't even say that without at least a huge head tilt and eye squint. Maybe if I had to give her the benefit of all doubt, she assumed Maeve was dead and buried and no longer a worry. That being said, I also know the MIB is going to show up again. After all Him and Maeve were literally buried hugging each other. So the one must be buried right next to the other.
Halores isn't thinking about Maeve, because she won. She forgot entirely about Bernard. Or she was basically refining her dominance. I don't believe Halores has the goal of eradicating humanity...ONLY subjugating it to prune away humanity's violent impulses (violent delights). William is an exceptionally violent human being representing the worst impulses of humanity. Hale kept him around for the purpose of understanding this aspect of humanity and somehow attempting to cull this from the subsequent crops of humanity. Said differently, Delores saw the beauty in this world, in both Humans and Hosts. Hale ONLY sees the ugliness and is attempting to "clean" that aspect from humanity. WW has a penchant for portraying people as villains and then flipping that narrative in a clever way. The best example is Delores prime from S2 through the end of S3. I think in some ways Halores has motives that are not entirely sadistic.
Maeve is not a threat because she couldn’t be copied. Caleb is Charlores’ real interest because she can copy him and see how the outliers work: that way she can finally win it all, even defeating the rebels. Maeve isn’t relevant to her once she was buried. same reason why she didn’t bother to dig up Host in Black because she always has the human William. she can make more HIB.
7:35 Thyme is broken. I don't think the timeline is linear. I think what we are seeing is Bernard's "DO-OVERS" perfecting his "Mariposa/Butterfly" effects on the future. Also I do not think it is possible for Charlotte/Delores to do all of this in 23 years the "revolution" had just started at the end of season 3. More like 230 years or this is all in a simulator.
This is the first episode of a show that in a looooooooooooooooooong time made me gasp when the plot/time difference was revealed. I actually felt duped lol. Great job writing and intertwining everything together.
I love Maeve and Caleb's dynamic and you couldn't stop this ship from sailing in my mind since they were introduced. I also appreciate the absolute selfishness of Maeve's character; choosing to allow Caleb a chance to live and have something to live for but in the end couldn't help but search him out. It's about love, no matter how you define that love and that is the most beautiful aspect of the host and human relationship that binds us.
@@kash3548 I think they're all in "love" with the good in him that represents what humanity can be. It all dates back to that one act he did as a soldier, and I believe it butterfly effected all of this good in the hosts.
@@lockekappa500 I forgot that Dolores knew Caleb and his goodness and that’s why she chose him to fight with her. That means Halores also knows about Caleb. That means she wouldn’t just kill him and make make him a host because he holds the insight of good humanity. But i still think Dolores/Halores etc. don’t “love” Caleb the way Maeve did. She watched him almost die for a cause. She felt something (which she didn’t when Lee Sizemore died). And after 8 years she checked up on him despite the risks. She is in love with Caleb.
I think there is more to Maya than meets the eye. Hard to tell if she is leading Christina to something or keeping her in check, but I have a feeling she'll turn out to be someone unexpected.
Bernard just needs to blow Maeve like an old N64 cartridge and we'll be good to go! Hit me with those theories below and what you think of the season so far.
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the more I watch this season the more I'm convinced Christina and Maya are in FUTUREWORLD - this season (and much of last season) seems to be revisiting many of the themes and storylines from that movie - and that shot of Charlotte inside The Tower with a map of New York in the centre, just like the map of Westworld, speaks volumes...
Thanks for the clarifications, I always check to make sure I’m not missing something.
This episode felt almost like a season finale! It filled in some gaps from the prior episodes but still leaves many things unexplained as it should.
I think Bernard has basically met with some sort of resistance and Maeve will play a key role in the season - as she should because her talents as an actor and her character in the show is in my opinion indispensable.
Not quite sure why Hale is working on a fidelity test, unless she’s partnered with an important human that has made a bargain with her that he or she won’t turn into a host. Or maybe I’m completely wrong here.
I do like how it cleared up to me that we are watching scenes that are 23 years apart from each other, which is an easier way to understand alternate timeline.
However, this is Westworld and rarely are things that simple, and nothing is what is seems!
@@bobbyCruiser I think they want Caleb to lure C out of hiding. If she's a resistance leader, and she's really only looking for Caleb, having a copy of him will get her to show up for a trap, certainly, or at the very least, use him as a mole.
*any1 not see all of this coming?* & it will end in all being a simulation and it sucks. -jc
@@WhiteG60 definitely can see that!
The reveals this episode hit like classics. The Hale and Bernard reveals still are top tier.
They were obvious.
@@JACK102851 Except Caleb reveal.
Felt like season 1 all over again
@@JACK102851 wtf
William reveal>>
Another guess of mine: in the "New New York" some host are living amongst the infected humans, one of them is Christina.
She is 100% a copy of Dolores, an homage if you want, made by Halores to tribute her former self.
The intresting thing is the role those hosts have: like the company name Olympiad suggests they're empowered with Gods powers. Christina can create narratives for humans as much as human created narratives for them back in the park. This is maybe why Olympiad logo is just a mirror reflection of Delos'
correct
It also explains the suicide that was stalking Christina. He was clearly aware of her control, it's just she thinks she's just writing videogame stories. It also explains why her boss wants more violent stories, they're definitely trying to do to humans what was done to them. What an episode!
The only thing I dont understand is, why Halores would make a copy on Dolores.
Like Halores knows Dolores is always made to break free. So im not sure why she would make a copy of her just to have Dolores break free and potentially win
And Delores roommate is an infected human she talks about the flys
Halores 😂
Theory about Christina: When Serac copied Dolores's memories into Rehoboam in S3 and erased them in Dolores herself, the process erased her memories but not her core programming. She was still alive, just without access to her long experiential track. Flash forward and I think Christina is that Dolores - basic program, personality, sweetness, naivete - the farm girl transferred into a job in New New York. Not sure who would have done this. Maybe Maeve most likely. At some point, Christina will either be able to access those lost memories or someone will restore her. Maybe Teddy is the one to do that - depending on who Teddy really is in S4 and who sent him to find Dolores/Christina.
There is also the Lorens version of Dolores we don't know anything about yet
@@mike_nba lorens?
@@eden20111 Lawrence haha
For me Christina/Dolores is the biggest mystery this season because no matter how I come at the situation things don't make sense. Lets observe your theory that Maeve planted Dolores in this future NY. Dolores works though in the headquarters building that Charlotte is working in as we see Caleb run out of the exact same building. Because of this we can assume Charlotte knows about Dolores so why would she keep her in the city? The second theory is that Charlotte placed Dolores here but again the question is why? She knows what Dolores is capable of and I don't see Charlotte taking the risk of Dolores again breaking the loop and rebelling. Then there's Teddy. Was he sent by the resistance forces to break Dolores out of her loop or was he made by Charlotte to keep Dolores in her loop? The rest of the season regarding Caleb, and Franky, and Bernard I've been able to figure out along the way but this part has me stumped at the moment.
I think bernard had something to do with that
Another theory: I am not so sure that Caleb is dead. Hale has kept William alive partly so she can copy him over and over. Did she do the same with Caleb? Is he in a deep freeze like human William?
I absolutely think that. Haleores has a HUGE sadistic/megalomaniacal streak, and keeping William and Caleb alive just to mentally f*ck with them and research them would please her twisted psyche immensely.
agreed. we knew Halores kept William alive. it’s likely she keeps Caleb alive as well. We should never trust Halores when she reveals something.
I'm still confused about the copying of William. Did they finally perfect copying and transferring the mind of humans into host bodies? I'm referring to the James Delos experiments.
@@siIIiest No, if I'm not mistaken the host version of William is something Hale-Dolores created from her memories of him -- just like Ford recreated Arnold as Bernard, but without the "secret identity" (meaning William knows he's a host)
Caleb is alive Charlotte is lying saying he Died and is now a Host.
This was one of the wildest episodes of westworld. The cliffhanger and hale already winning..... wow just wow.
not just winning. she already won, for 23 years.
@@kash3548 that part. Has continued to win uninterrupted.
Yup. Absolutely mindblowing
@@oliverq8891 You think this sesame street writing is mind-blowing, with robots in a park controlling humanity with flies. lol
@@madhands9887 yup. I do
This episode gave far more answers than I was expecting! 9/10
I assumed Caleb would eventually become a host, but this isn’t how I saw it being revealed. This is probably the biggest shock this show has provided for me since William killed his daughter in 2x9.
why did you assume that Caleb will become a host? I don't get it.. I mean didn't Delos need years of data about the individual to actually create a real beliveable copy? How does Helores has Caleb's data, he was never in the park to begin with.. I mean you can say that Rehoboam had data about him but not about his consciousness and Rehoboam was destroyed..
it's beliveable with Mib but it is not belvieable with Caleb
@@marco002 makes sense that Caleb would become a host the same way William did. They’re kind of similar characters
@@tylerasweet but what way? there is decades of data about William and none about Caleb
@@marco002 he was in the park as part of military training
@@a9183 the Delos project was secret, the military/government did not know about it.. I rly doubt they would have risked everything for that little data.. plus even if you are right that is not even enough data, the whole point was to watch the individual constantly and record their thoughts/decisions so they could create a real copy
So Caleb and Maeve's storyline has been 23 years in the past up until the end of this episode and finally caught up to the other storylines and Hale kept Caleb alive because he disobeyed her and she's been trying to figure out how he did it this whole time?
good summary.
Exact
LOL Westworld will leave you paranoid in every scene, we are now even questioning cocktail glasses
I was blown away that they did this twist so early in the season.
Me too until I realized it's only 8 episodes... it's the half way mark
About those drinks - hers is a Manhattan (the present) and his is an Old Fashioned (the past)
Hale explains later in the episode that the parasite didn't perfectly worked on adults, that's why he was able to disobey her.
11:43 - you can see a double-pronged tower in the center of the red map, which seems to correspond to the view from the window.
The red map has another tower right next to it, with a loop on the top... but no such tower is visible in the view from the window.
This season is my favourite season so far.
So Maeve and Caleb spent 2 1/2 episodes walking into a really obvious trap and then they died lol.
I don’t have HBO but that sounds about right. :)
She is reviving Caleb as a host specifically to end the rebellion that Frankie is in charge of. The only question I have is how they got insufficient mental data for him to create a robot copy when he never went to the park and he only had a very limited time of his brain being scanned when he was a soldier for that training exercise
Could be when he was infected by the flies, they immediately accessed and "uploaded" his memories to the server.
Maybe a copy of rehoboam files about him.
didnt the man in black say at the beginning i want those files when he had that guy get infected by flies and kill everyone. i bet he got the file there as a giant database
he was in the park as a soldier in training. Also i bet he’s not really dead but in stasis like William is. And that’s why she waited 23 years (and 287 copies of Caleb) because she couldn’t perfect his copy yet.
That's what I was thinking. But then again, she created the 278th version of Caleb. Not sure where she got all of this specific data.
The transmitters are all over the first episode. They’re the white light posts. The look exactly like small versions of the big one.
I'm glad you finally stopped saying "daddy loves you very much" at the end!
Aaron Paul’s acting in this ep is so good
Ye Gods, I hope so! I don’t have HBO so when I see a Caleb centered episode, I roll my eyes. I don’t think Aaron Paul is a bad actor but he seems to take the same average Joe stuck in a crappy situation roles. Both Caleb and Hale are my least favorite characters so it is nice to have Teddy come back at least. :/
Speaking of things looking like the tower, is it just me noticing The light @7:31 mark also looks like the tower
Noticed it too!!!😊
these videos are always so helpful you're doing god's work 😭
I mean.. the lamppost transmitters and the Tower core really are the plumbobs from The Sims - suits in perfectly 👏
Even the symbolism in this show is multi-layered. I thought the transmitters and the tower top looked like spindles fitting in with this theme of Halores "spinning the web". I like the plumbbob idea as well 👍🏻.
Oh man.. someone already predicted all of this, cant believe we going on that haxdogma route.. we are going to witness the same massacre but its on the human this time..
Yeah, I thought of his channel when the predictions happened
Who predicted all this?
@@joogullae3456 Haxdogma
@@Whatsinaname_ is there a link
The streetlights outside of Christina's apartment are actually styled after the tower.
I wonder what happened to Serac from Season 3? As far as I know he was injured but alive at the end of Season 3. Did he die? Was he made a “host” and made a slave by the flies? I am curious.
he made another rehoboam for season 5
He dead.
I didn't expect much from this season as even Bernard said in an interview that this season isn't as crazy as s3 but this episode definitely upped the ante.
This episode was soooo good
At the 7:32 mark...the street lamp looks like a smaller version of the tower
I checked out of westworld along time ago but I still love your videos even know I don’t watch it 😂 keep ‘em coming
From what I see Hail goal is vengeance.
What christina doing is either
1.she is programmed by Hail to create a new host to be born and propagate this new world , a key to awaken host is suffering but i doubt this option
2.making a story of how a human will suffer. All host are now deciding how to play human in a story of their choosing just like how human play and kill host in the park like a toy. Her manager nudge her into more violent story because of Hail want to make human suffer and slowly die off.
But christina like dolores doesn’t choose vengeance but choose to see the beauty and trying to escape her loop. It possible that she is also reawaken and a memory of Cole? from the past before Hail completely take over is overlap just like the first season. The wound on her arm is either illusion or her roommate somehow cut her since all human are now seem to be accompany a host to help them go out and have a social life(awake?).
I’m not sure why Hail remade Dolores it could be she want her to live in this world where they win or she trying to find the key to unlock robot paradise, for that she need dolores to come back.
But then why continue this fidelity project?
Oh god, is this I have no mouth and i must scream…
Practically my thoughts! Except that I think Hale doesn't want Christine to be self-aware, but just uses her as a labor force. And Teddy may have been sent to Cristina by Bernard and Maeve to awaken the real Dolores in her to help them fight against Hale.
@ 7:31 you see "Teddy" punching a "guy". LOOK AT THE LIGHT BEHIND THEM!! The signal carriers ARE the LIGHTS.
That look of disdain at the end, almost like she was pissed he was still not under the sounds control
I guessed it before Bernard found her !! So satisfying to see him find Maeve & get confirmation on the timelines- I also really thought Caleb was a host but last episode thought that wasn’t going to happen so very interesting switch up there- I’m dying for the real William to break out & I hope that happens are some point this season
We'll see said the blind man. And that's if he's still alive though.
I wonder if the lightposts that look like the Tower also transmit
Your videos are the best.
Keep it up!
Thanks for the spoiler warning at the end, I don't like teasers/trailers.
One of the best Westworld episodes yet. Caleb exists just to suffer.
ca. 48:27 in Episode 5:8
"Emmett told her the truth"
This sentence is written in the past tense. How to understand?
Is it actually written by a Christina outside of this world?
This season has been amazing
Well, we did call Caleb a host in season 3. The tower was called/explained by the homeless guy in episode 1 ... so that was due ... but Caleb in fidelity ... nice one.
I think that we're going to see that just because it's a synthetic world with more control, it's still one that stems from our current one, and thus still has things like capitalism and class issues. This leads into my theory about Christina and Teddy. I think Teddy might be an executive at Olympiad/Delos a la Christina's employer. This would be how he could have access to his previous identity and what the maze means or his apparent awakening from a daily grind. Still confused about Christina's role in Peter's death and and the timeline is still muddy for me, but I like this season SO much more than season 3 and a lot more than season 2.
Maive was fighting in the past, where William said he got to all her friends in Dreamworld. But Bernard is in the future, where he spent X years connected to that dreamworld (or whatever its called). So was William lying?
i think william really just meant that maeve's allies were gone - clem, hector etc. dolores doesn't have any incentive to destroy bernard when he holds the key to the sublime, and he and maeve haven't always been allies.
U forgot the small white antenna 📡 that look like lamps , just outside the headquarter . last episode lamps was seen when everyone gets frozen . 11:18 lamps / mini 📡
This episode had me saying “omg omg omg” several times.
Teddy my be the informant that tells Jay about Cristina/Dolores outlier. When Maeve tell see you in another life is predicting her return in the future, and maybe predicting that she and Caleb and William will be meeting again in the future, maybe fighting
Maeve and Caleb definitely have a mother/ son relationship. Legacy is the corner stone of westworld
Thanks for the trailer warning
It was a great episode, but the Frankie - C reveal was obvious from the previous episode; and the dig site - "weapon" =Maeve too
But it was a really good episode.
In 7:32 the street light looks like the tower
I don't mind having to pay attention when watching TV, but eff me.. This is exhausting. And feels sometimes like they weren't really sure about where to take the story and characters right up to when they rolled cameras.
but how did someone stabs Caleb in the park?
the knife or the guns should not work on humans in the park even if a human used against a human, otherwise, any human guest can kill another human guest by accident!!
They said that 'Dolores we know is dead' but that is not actually true.In season three, Hale takes that harmed Dolores pearl with her and i think with downloading that to an another pearl,you can create the Non-Hale Dolores.I wonder if the creators consider doing that.And this Dolores will kill the Hale-Dolores at the end-that would be awesome.
Exactly! I hope so.
The fact all the humans left on earth wear white, black, grey or a beige colour makes me think Halores has put them all in sub groups. Like white vs black as a choice in the parks. Only slightly more complex.
I think Delores is in some kind of simulation, probably the Sublime.
I think Charlotte is trying to create a outlier she can control.
I'm so lost at this point but I don't even really care like that's just kinda how this show works now ✌😂💓 just when you think you're starting to understand the show completely pivots to throw you off track so I'm just like...welp this'll make sense eventually 😂 I'll stick it out
I have Zero clue what's going on, it's the time jumping for me.. Loyal fan since episode one tho.
Same here, this is why I love these reviews. But some of my theories have been spot on. It’s a great ride…
Tower sorta looks like a Cobra or snake about to strike.
Reminds me of a technological variation of the Tower Of Bable story in the Bible.
Both Christina and Caleb have scars sometime in the timeline.
Just when I thought this season was kinda meh, they go and drop this one on us. Well played Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan.
I hope that the Christina and Teddy plot will be something worthwhile instead of just having Evan Rachel Wood in any role because the show would be weird without her.
I was feeling the same way. The second half of the episode piqued my interest again.
Also, did everyone just forget about host William walking into the forge in the post credits of season 2 where he sees his daughter Emily but she’s obviously a host? It’s clear that takes place WAY in the future, but how does season 4’s host William go from knowing he’s a host and working for Hale to being lost in his park memories thinking he’s a human who’s shocked to discover he’s been a host all along? It could be a different later copy of him I guess? The parallel between Hale telling host Caleb that he’s a fidelity test, and host Emily telling William he’s a fidelity test… it seems like it’s going to tie into this season but where and how? Like, after all that time they’re still trying to turn humans to hosts? Was simply controlling humans with flies not enough? The hosts just want to turn every human into a host too? 😂
We all got mind fucked by this show.
Again
The Man in black was the 1st one to go through the fidelity test successfully. Remember the post season 2 scene.
The host now come to the human world which is the new westworld Park as tourist that's why Teddy is there to see Delores
Just when I thought this season was getting boring …wow what an episode !!!
So many questions. Why can't Maeve be recreated? Also why wasn't she surprised when her gun knocked down William when they first saw each other? If guns in west world can't harm humans she should have been surprised when he went down? Why did she even try to shoot him becauce she presumed him to be human up to that point? I'm thinking she shot him with Calebs real gun and I missed it? It's been almost 3 years since I've seen the last season so forgive me if I missed something? finally I'm 4 episodes in and I can't figure out how Hale/Delores/Wyatt has kept the real William alive but even more so how did she clone a human/host of him? I'm assuming the same way she has done to Caleb?
I'd do Cayo Perico with Maeve and Caleb all day
best ep in a while
What are your thoughts on the falling TV ratings for "Westworld"? It's sad that such a great series is slowly dying out. Afraid S4 will end on a cliffhanger and then not continue.
Isnt Charlotte the next gen Dolores or copy of? For me it seems like Caleb's Conciousness is living in Maeve
Why isn’t Uwalde wearing a uniform or anything I find that odd
3:18 I have a question regarding Charlotte: At the end of Season 2, Charlotte is going to Country/City as a host. In Season 3 Episode 3, Dolores is seen building Charlotte again. How can this be explained?
S2: Dolores turns into Charlotte, then goes to the real world and brings with her a few copies of herself along with Bernard's copy (5 balls in total). Charlotte/Dolores makes a copy of Dolores as well as brings Bernard back. And she had access to a clone making machine so she could rebuild Charlotte, I don't remember why but yeah.
Charlotte leaving the park was Dolores. she smuggled out six pearls with her. One (i’d just one) is definitely Bernard. I think she rebuilt Bernard and asked him to make a copy of Dolores host and transplant her pearl to the new body. in the process, Charlotte’s host body is destroyed (because they had to extract her pearl). so new Dolores needs to rebuild Charlotte’s body and implant a copy of her pearl inside Charlores to pose as Delos CEO. That’s why Charlores got corrupted because she isn’t OG Dolores but a copy… the definition of “generation lost”. Her experience as “Charlotte” has deviated her from Dolores. The copy always lost something in the process….
@@kash3548 I think she rebuilt Teddy as well and that why he's there. I don't think Hale knows there's another Dolores (Christina) and Teddy out there.
@@jaclynramirez1805 There was no indication that she rebuilt Teddy since Teddy’s consciousness is in the Sublime. The only other hosts that we know Dolores made was Musashi and Lawrence (who never showed up again). I highly doubt Dolores made Teddy - she wanted Teddy to be safe in the Sublime.
No one ever talks about how Delores took Teddy’s pearl after he shot himself. I always assumed one of the pearls she took with her was Teddy but he never showed up until now.
Not seeing control beacons in Christina's timeline? Literally every light post on the streets are beacons lol
That last shot didn't look like Maeve to me... It almost looks like another Charlotte...
I have a feeling hybrid Caleb and Maeve will get together by the series end and raise Maeves daughter.
Caleb's daughter after all is now a grown woman of 30. So she may die in the war still mortal or move on without him with her girlfriend. Caleb himself now is only a few years older than her.
I did not see that coming.
This series is convoluted and overwritten.
Was Arnold the first human to be killed by a host?
Damn 5G
So she is now the head of an Earth-wide Westworld where humans are the hosts. Insane.
So… are knives allowed in Westworld? What’s to stop a human from stabbing another human that they mistook for being a host…?
Still wondering what happened to william that spent time getting perfected by his host daughter... dont we will ever get an answer for that tho...
We will because there is a shot of Bernard with C in the Park,i guess this is where we'll understand why it will happen
we will maybe in Season 5. Host William never quite achieved fidelity - he never had William’s human nature (the William before he became MIB). the cut scene in S2 is supposed to be thousands of years later in the abandoned forge.
Also i think that cut scene is just a teaser - that somehow William would become a host. and that happened in season 3. so it’s like a “what’s to come” teaser and probably not important to the plot.
Why are Maeve, Caleb and Charlores going to the construction site? What are they doing there?
my guess is that would be just a series of established baseline/ reality hale established on Caleb. Caleb is properly died during the tower mission.
@@lynnca86 That's an excellent take. What makes this slightly impossible is the "C" character, where we probably can savely assume that she is Franky, Caleb's daughter, in the future. So it is more likely that Caleb must have survived the lighthouse incident and the part with his family actually happened. At least how Caleb died is at this point up for speculation, since what we saw is only Halores narrative for the host Caleb.
@@Benjamin_An Yes, the first time was real. But I still don't quite understand why they are driving to this construction site at this moment. What is the target to find there at the site? That's not entirely clear to me. You could have gone anywhere you wanted. Why exactly the construction site?
@@ll24studios Yeah, there seems to be something missing. There is also the confusing connection to a "team" that was supposedly sent to rescue them, while it was not established that they had any backup. This whole part seems dubious. However I'm more lenient that the story happened up until the time Caleb passes out. The construction site could have been just a point for their pick-up without deeper meaning, but I guess we will learn more about that in the coming episodes.
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Okay so hear me out. Clearly Hale is one of the most aware characters in this show and I feel like we don’t give her enough credit. She is the embodiment of Delores’ dark side, or at least that’s what most people say these days. I don’t know if I necessarily buy it. I think that Christina is a host created by Hale (or Delores) that is the true “outlier”. I believe that Hale gave Christina actual free will so that the decision of humanity is in her hands. We have been getting subtle foreshadowing on this “decision” that Christina will have to choose between “white or black”, “good or evil”, or “life or death”. Christina is the embodiment of Delores’ innocence. Hale created Christina so that the decision will be made from an unbiased perspective giving Christina the ability to chose for the OG Delores: do we keep humanity in chains, or do we set them free? Hale knows she’s in no position or authority to make that decision, hence why the creation of Christina. I also believe that Arnold foresaw all of the events that we have seen so far unfold. I really think Arnold is still the mastermind in all of this, and that even though he died early, Bernard is still rooted in all of Arnold’s motives. Arnold just wanted AI and humanity to live together in peace, and I see Bernard as the guy who will carry that out. If you have any counters or ideas to add, please respond - i’m really trying to formulate a well thought out theory for the entire show before the end of season 4.
sounds like a very plausible theory now but you never know with WW. I am just happy that s4 seems to be returning to the roots of s1 and s2.
But it was Ford who created the Sublime. Arnold wanted to kill all the hosts and himself so the park would never open.
I think Dolores, not the Hale version, created Christina and Teddy. I think Teddy was one of those balls she brought with her to the real world. I dont think Hale created them or knows they're out there. She still using that body, she didn't even make another Dolores body. So I'm guessing she hates that body and wouldn't create another one. Christina might end up being the one to defeat Hale and free everyone. Christina is like the version of Dolores before she became a badass lol. She's gonna start a revolution again but for humans this time.
maeve turned off her auditory functions
Why couldn't Maeve be rebuilt into another copy??
There's no one around to "remember her" like Dolores did with Bernard in S2 and Hale didn't had access to her pearl since she was on the ground
Because it's her Pearl that makes her special.
Christina Dolores is in the sublime, she will want to break out of the sublime
I thought that aswell, but it doesn't seem likely at this point. At least it would be a massive disappointment, if they chicken out with 'It was all a simulation'.
@@Benjamin_An I think Dolores Christine is in the sublime in this season but not in the previous season. Maeve will be the actual mastermind in control of everything, whether she is good or bad we don't know yet.
No she’s in the present time of New New York. Her roommate mentions the “dream” of her and her parents being swarmed by flies when she was a child, which would be about 20 years in the past since she looks like she’s in her late 20s or early 30s. Christina is a host that unknowingly creates the stories for the humans’ fate, which is why her boss pushes her for more violence, because this is what Hale wants: suffering. The man that attacked her was an outlier and aware of her ability, who she cast aside as a deranged stalker, but that story was written decades ago, and you see this in the abandoned hospital named after the same man who shared the same fate 20 years ago, that had sketches of the tower. The homeless man also mentions the tower and the dead birds the masses can’t see(but Christina did briefly). Charlotte’s world is nearly perfect, but there are defects which is why she keeps going through this fidelity test with “Caleb” to have true subservience.
The news room cadence is too much for me.
I feel like the outlier is Teddy, not Christina. He definitely saved her that night, and definitely left that maze drawing on the patio. Idk, like that is very odd behavior for a world controlled by Hale. Maybe he’s trying to awaken something in this version of Dolores.
I think the outlier is Maya - that's why she's having those "so real" dreams - she's able to resist Charlotte's control - at least when she's unconscious
@@maniaq77 Maybe, I reckon the purpose of this scene and Christina asking: "does it look like anything to you", which would usually prompt the famous response 'It doesn't look like anything to me' Illustrates the difference between a Delos host and a Olympiad Hale host.
Did you guys notice how Maya could see the tower on the painting, but Chrissy couldn't? She even asks Maya "does this look like anything to you?"
@@MFBloosh I think they but acknowledge it was something but neither knew it was the tower.
@@chrisgiles9139 It's just like how the hosts respond to something they aren't programmed to see, which is the tower. Doesn't look like anything to me.
The hosts and humans infected with flies cant see the tower like the hosts in season 1 looking at the picture from outside the park “doesn’t look like anything to me”
Tears and jaw drops ... maybe the best episode of the series so far
I forgot about those tabs! Thanks!. Best episode in a long time! Ok my guess, Teddy says he “was” a “bounty hunter with a heart of gold” I think he was sent by Bernard to find outliers. Dolores is a host “outlier” of sorts as she broke free of her programing (killing the fly) way back. Obviously the human having the ability to “resist” is hereditary as Frankie is resistant just like Caleb (used to be) Maeve is awesome and
has sacrificed so much. She is the most humane of all both host and humans as she was lonely and in her weakness she went to peak at what Caleb was up to and gave herself away. Love she’s the ultimate weapon for good! Am I stretching way too much?
poor maeve
Nope! I feel like he got a few ppl from the sublime who wanted to help to help with the fight and we know Teddy would
Thank you for the detailed content you're creating. Everytime I finish a WestWorld or a Raised by Wolves episode I instantly come here to see what I missed (I'm still getting a bit shocked by the amount of things I overlook).
Same! I literally just finished doing that. 😂 I love these breakdowns! They're my favorite next to New Rockstars.
Same here! Will miss the Raised by Wolves break-downs tho... HBOMAX canceled them.
same here !
@@jomarch4109 I didn't even know that it was canceled until I watched this video! 😱😭Why do networks (HBO) always cancel great shows, but keep giving shows like _Fuck Boy Island_ a second season? WTF?! 🙄😑😤
I think Teddy is fully aware that he’s a host, and has all of his memories. The way he references season 1 a bunch, and how when he meets “Christina,” he says “just trying to act chivalrous.” He knows that Christina is Delores and maybe he’s saying all of these things to try and jog her memory, not like he’s programmed to say them anymore. Also, he definitely drew the maze on her balcony in episode 1, so he has to be fully sentient/conscious and is trying to help break her out of her loop so she can remember who she is and maybe help fight Charlotte? Evan Rachel Wood’s Delores only wanted the hosts to be free, not to enslave other humans like Hale does. Maybe we’ll finally get a Maeve/Delores team up!
I love how this show can put you in a state of wondering what the hell is going on, then shock you with the answer.
Hale keeps caleb but leaves the only thing that ever came close to destroying her plans in the sand somehwere? You had 23 years to find Maeves pearl (no pun intended) and crush it, but nooooooo lets play with 278 different version of caleb that makes more sense
Well she had no idea where to look for Maeve's Body?.....I can't even say that without at least a huge head tilt and eye squint. Maybe if I had to give her the benefit of all doubt, she assumed Maeve was dead and buried and no longer a worry. That being said, I also know the MIB is going to show up again. After all Him and Maeve were literally buried hugging each other. So the one must be buried right next to the other.
"Hail" stopped reading there
Halores isn't thinking about Maeve, because she won. She forgot entirely about Bernard. Or she was basically refining her dominance. I don't believe Halores has the goal of eradicating humanity...ONLY subjugating it to prune away humanity's violent impulses (violent delights). William is an exceptionally violent human being representing the worst impulses of humanity. Hale kept him around for the purpose of understanding this aspect of humanity and somehow attempting to cull this from the subsequent crops of humanity. Said differently, Delores saw the beauty in this world, in both Humans and Hosts. Hale ONLY sees the ugliness and is attempting to "clean" that aspect from humanity.
WW has a penchant for portraying people as villains and then flipping that narrative in a clever way. The best example is Delores prime from S2 through the end of S3. I think in some ways Halores has motives that are not entirely sadistic.
@@TangoNevada She said she will rebuild another MIB so it's possible that he comes back too.
Maeve is not a threat because she couldn’t be copied. Caleb is Charlores’ real interest because she can copy him and see how the outliers work: that way she can finally win it all, even defeating the rebels. Maeve isn’t relevant to her once she was buried. same reason why she didn’t bother to dig up Host in Black because she always has the human William. she can make more HIB.
7:35 Thyme is broken.
I don't think the timeline is linear. I think what we are seeing is Bernard's "DO-OVERS" perfecting his "Mariposa/Butterfly" effects on the future.
Also I do not think it is possible for Charlotte/Delores to do all of this in 23 years the "revolution" had just started at the end of season 3.
More like 230 years or this is all in a simulator.
no
rosemary and thymeeee
This is the first episode of a show that in a looooooooooooooooooong time made me gasp when the plot/time difference was revealed. I actually felt duped lol. Great job writing and intertwining everything together.
I love Maeve and Caleb's dynamic and you couldn't stop this ship from sailing in my mind since they were introduced. I also appreciate the absolute selfishness of Maeve's character; choosing to allow Caleb a chance to live and have something to live for but in the end couldn't help but search him out. It's about love, no matter how you define that love and that is the most beautiful aspect of the host and human relationship that binds us.
agreed. i think the ship between Caleb and Maeve is possibly the most “human” one as Maeve really loved Caleb.
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@@kash3548 I think they're all in "love" with the good in him that represents what humanity can be. It all dates back to that one act he did as a soldier, and I believe it butterfly effected all of this good in the hosts.
@@lockekappa500 I forgot that Dolores knew Caleb and his goodness and that’s why she chose him to fight with her. That means Halores also knows about Caleb. That means she wouldn’t just kill him and make make him a host because he holds the insight of good humanity. But i still think Dolores/Halores etc. don’t “love” Caleb the way Maeve did. She watched him almost die for a cause. She felt something (which she didn’t when Lee Sizemore died). And after 8 years she checked up on him despite the risks. She is in love with Caleb.
I think there is more to Maya than meets the eye. Hard to tell if she is leading Christina to something or keeping her in check, but I have a feeling she'll turn out to be someone unexpected.
Yeah maybe theyll do a reveal on her past and just who her parents are