The Reformed View: Speaking in Tongues

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  • @stevebikes995
    @stevebikes995 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As a brother in Christ and as an RE in the PCA, I really appreciate your Biblical, straightforward approach to teaching. Great channel!

  • @PapaBearAnthony
    @PapaBearAnthony 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The absolute best teaching on tongues I’ve ever heard. Thank you Pastor Matthew!!!

  • @nickspitzley8539
    @nickspitzley8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was heavily involved in this. I was a devout Assembly of God member. I can now say without apology that the tounges taught today in the pentecostal churches is a mirrored flip of what the Bible teaches. When I left the AG I personally repented for acting so foolishly in "worship" not to mention the spiritual pride.
    It was the pride I saw in others and rising in myself that pushed me away but the question that caused to question the teaching was this; why didn't they have to be coerced into speaking in tounges? Today the pentecostal theologians will say that the person must expect and seek this gift in order to receive it but in Acts we see it was a sovereign act of the Spirit. No one should have to seek it in order to receive it should just happen. Show me in scripture where someone was told to start moving their mouth really fast to get it to "start flowing".
    But I do want to also say is that there are two pentecostal modes so the speak. The UPC and the Assembly of God models. The UPC model is right in that no one saved without the Spirit but then they say that the tongues is the sign of receiving the Spirit. So that's where they get it wrong. They also downplay faith with a strong emphasis on baptismal regeneration (As well as the modalism view of the Godhead). The AG model is that tongues is evidence of a second blessing. So they would say that someone is "indwelt" with the Spirit by faith but "filled" with his Spirit as a second blessing. However since they push for this as a greater blessing they in affect make it a greater work of the Spirit than salvation. They then also teach that in order for a person to receive this second blessing they must be already in certain place of holiness. If you don't receive this gift it's all to the fault of you.

    • @rongrimes9102
      @rongrimes9102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a former AG pastor, I agree with you 100% I was born into the pentecostalism ,UPC , AG and Church of God. I cannot count the number of times I’ve seen tongues and prophecy miss use and abused in these denominations.

    • @rh10033
      @rh10033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @saranakin This doesn't happen in the current AG ministry that I am apart of either. I have seen it in independent Pentecostal churches though. I believe in two different speaking in tongues based upon studies of the scripture and my own experience. However, I do think that many pentecostals seek spirtual experiences more than God Himself. This is where I have a problem. Do these supernatural experiences bring about repentance and spirtual fruit in a person's life? If not, then it's not from God.
      I know many people who "speak in tongues" and "prophesy" but they barely have any spirtual fruit. And if someone doesn't have love, they are just a clanging symbol 🤷‍♀️

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a well estab lished method of interpreting scripture called The Law Of Repetition. According to.this Law the Word will repeat somerhing said,and/ or an event three times to:
      1) Direct our attention to the presence of an important spiritual truth.
      2) To set a precedent so that the same event present elsewhere in scriprure need not be written in as much detail.
      There are only three times in scripture where we are told of believers recieving the Holy Spirit and what happened the monent that they recieved,( Acts ch.2,10,and ch.19)
      In each instance the first thing that happened when they recieved rhe Holy Spirit is that they spome in tongues.

  • @amymitchhaubert5171
    @amymitchhaubert5171 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the Voltron reference!
    Great job brother
    Very well organized thoughts.

  • @gigir6761
    @gigir6761 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dear Pastor:
    If your 5 questions concerning the gifts of the Holy Spirit are from a sincere heart, may we suggest you ask God and not men. He will answer your genuinely sincere heart. Meanwhile, please consider the scriptures which instruct us regarding the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit and ask yourself which you accept and which you do not accept, and why:
    9 Gifts of the H. S.
    1 Corinthians 12
    1) Word of Wisdom
    2) Word of Knowledge
    3) Faith
    4) Gifts of Healing
    5) Working of Miracles
    6) Prophecy
    7) Discerning of Spirits
    8) Divers (or different) kinds of Tongues
    9) Interpretation of (different) Tongues

  • @b08no
    @b08no 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Pastor Matt! Really informative.

  • @jamesaburks
    @jamesaburks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clearly message. Good job, my dear brother. 👍🤟

  • @donnaanderson9473
    @donnaanderson9473 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I suspect that the truth lies in a balance between the two views. I don’t blame people from running from these tongue crazed people toward Reformed theology. I am one of them. On the other hand we cannot put God in a box and say tongues doesn’t happen today.

  • @Elkwoman46
    @Elkwoman46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a long story, but when I first received speaking in tongues (long before the internet), I was too shy and ignorant to even know about speaking the words out loud, but I saw a word clearly in my head that I knew I did not make up and I was in awe and later these other words came forth like a continuing sentence. I knew how they were spelled and also how they were pronounced. There is more to tell about that and especially that first word is most definitely a real word too and has two meanings online, (I did a search years later), very precious to me. But years later, I was troubled because in the midst of a revival, my prayer language became very repetitious. Then I discovered we can pray for the interpretation, and I did. The Lord revealed to me... I had been praying continually, Help me, Help me. During that time in the midst of it all, I had times what I believe people would call Dark Night of the Soul. I discovered it was a time, where God wanted me to come closer to HIM, away from what was going on around me even in this wonderful revival. That is hard to explain, but it was I believe to prepare me. For the Lord Jesus really manifested Himself in that church. We even saw the Glory Cloud in our church among other amazing manifestations of God. This started when some men in the church prayed in the church sanctuary all night. But what happens when the Lord stops the manifestations? If anyone experiences that they will know what I mean. But God never leaves us, and of course, in fact, lives within us. Also, there are times when we pray for others in tongues when we don't know how to pray, but if the Lord wills, our prayer language takes over. At times, I have experienced that private thing, where it is praying in tongues but we do not need to know the details about someone else. For me, to come back to the beginning of my message, when I was asked, so long ago, if I wanted the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I had no idea what that meant, but I knew I wanted whatever God had for me.

    • @bigtobacco1098
      @bigtobacco1098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unscriptural

    • @Elkwoman46
      @Elkwoman46 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigtobacco1098 Peace.

  • @Elena-qr2gq
    @Elena-qr2gq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes yes yes! I agree with you Pastor Matthew. The amount of times I’ve had this conversation with friends who had gone to a charismatic “conference” or “church” & came back disheartened because they were told that unless they learn to “speak in tongues” their salvation is in doubt. I don’t believe that teaching that the gift of tongues is necessary for salvation is biblical or kind, because it leaves people sad, disheartened & in doubt of their own salvation(those who truly love Jesus). Thank you for this clear video (which I shall be sharing with others) & all the clear scripture references on the subject. THANK YOU

    • @JBM101
      @JBM101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      man who says there salvation is in doubt ... as if speaking in tongues, praying in tongues has ANYTHING to do with our salvation... it is a wonderful gift and if more of the Church practiced praying in tongues we would have a stronger church body ... in America we are in a backslidden state and need revival like never before.

  • @charlesheller4667
    @charlesheller4667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I received my prayer language via baptism of the Holy Sprit I was no asking for it nor did I expect it. In fact I did not know I had it. I thought I was speaking in normal English to the people around and had to be told that I was not. This is exactly what happened. A visiting Evangelist had come to our church. More than that happened to me. I had become different - experiencing a level of inner calmness I did not have before.

  • @baldwin9281
    @baldwin9281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother I am so glad you riffed on this. Has been a great point of “discussion” in our nightly bible studies. You rolled up in 25 minutes what I’ve been trying to articulate. We tried a charismatic church for a bit and I loved some of the people but cannot fit my head around the doctrine. I’ll just stop there.
    God Bless.

  • @gunnartesdahl9347
    @gunnartesdahl9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @Matthew Everhard, this was a great video presenting your view. Question: I am Reformed (I serve at an EPC church in WA state), and I received the gift of tongues one day during prayer, when I asked God to fill me with the Holy Spirit (cf. Ephesians 5:18). It was a totally unexpected experience. How would your view make sense of such an experience? In other words, what happened to me in that prayer time (and times since when I have prayed in tongues at will)? I'm not trying to be combative. I am still piecing together my own perspective on this, and would welcome your take. Thanks!

    • @nickspitzley8539
      @nickspitzley8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey I'd love to see see Pastor Matt reply but can I ask you a few questions.
      1. What do you mean or where were your thoughts on being filled with the Spirit? Ephesians says we already have all spiritual blessings. This idea of a second spiritual blessing isn't in scripture but is derived from Wesleyan theology. Now we most should certainly pray for greater sanctification which is a work of the Spirit. I'm assuming you know that Christians already have the Spirit. So why did you not feel full of the Spirit or that the Spirit was lacking in you.
      2. Did you have any preconceived ideas of what being filled with the Spirit looked like or how one experienced this?

    • @ussconductor5433
      @ussconductor5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds to me like you were given the gift of tongues. :-) Any time the New Testament uses the phrase “filled with the Spirit they ....” it always involves proclaiming the testimony of Jesus and the works of God. Sometimes prophecy is the result of being filled with the Spirit. Sometimes the result is speaking in tongues. Always it give glory and testimony to God/Jesus. Check to see what I am saying and make sure to use a Concordance/lexicon to verify.

    • @gunnartesdahl9347
      @gunnartesdahl9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nickspitzley8539 Great questions! 1. When I pray to be filled with the Spirit, I'm referring to Ephesians 5:18, which is a command to "keep on being filled with the Spirit." In the book of Acts, after the initial baptism of the Spirit in Acts 2 (which Matt taught well on), there were other times that those same folks were later filled with the Spirit, such as in Acts 4, when they were filled and "spoke the word with boldness." The filling of the Spirit appears to be an inward work in which he empowers us for service, cultivates in us the character of Christ, gives us holy desires, etc. But it also appears to have outward components at times, such as speaking the word, prophecying, speaking in tongues, etc. 2. Yes, I did have preconceived ideas that came from personal study and biblical teaching on the subject. That is a question I've been wrestling with, too. There was a level of anticipation in my prayer, that God would answer my prayer in perhaps outward expressions. I had heard a teaching on tongues earlier that morning, as well, from Sam Storms. I prayed to be filled with the Spirit, like I do often in my prayer life, and I was overcome with a sense of awe and began to speak in a language I didn't understand, but I felt as if I were speaking to God and communing with him.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Holy Spirit is recieved as the result of the Holy Spirit baptism. The first indication that this has occurred is always speaking in tongues which is one spiritual language for the edification of the speaker.
      The gift of speaking in " tongues" is a different operation of this language because it always is to be accompanied by a believer with the gift of interpretation and is for the edification of a church assembly.

    • @bigtobacco1098
      @bigtobacco1098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@robertnieten7259 what happened to this gift for 1800 years ??

  • @JC2Japan
    @JC2Japan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure your church is still around I’m 3 years late to writing a comment. I loved your explanation here. I am a missionary in Japan and have family out in that area. Not sure if your church has anyone in our area of Japan but if not I’d love to be that connection. Any way thank you.

  • @anthonym.7653
    @anthonym.7653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Very helpful.

  • @PastorVaughn
    @PastorVaughn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol! Gifts that join together like Voltron sounds awesome! Thanks for this as I was just speaking to someone about tongues recently.

  • @PatrickTengmusic
    @PatrickTengmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this informative teaching 👍🙏

  • @chrispatirot8575
    @chrispatirot8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being open to the holy spirit and the word. Is important.

  • @chucklyons5052
    @chucklyons5052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't argue with the truth. Agape, ,Chuck.

  • @alistaircharles9926
    @alistaircharles9926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your clear and respectful presentation. I have a question.. If Reformed theology believes in the regulative principle ie. that the Bible determines worship and order of doing things. Is tongues and prophecy clearly not included here too? Last verse also indicates a believer can if no interpreter, speak to himself and God privately.
    1 Corinthians 14:26-28
    "How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. [27] If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. [28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God."

  • @thefaithfullservantemmanue8227
    @thefaithfullservantemmanue8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well said pastor thank you

  • @Bruser-ul4dn
    @Bruser-ul4dn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having studied the 'gift of tongues' for over 50 years, I've come to the conclusion that the 'miraculous' aspect of what happened on the day of Pentecost was not people speaking in languages they didn't know, but people courageously praising God in a language they did know. We're so 'brainwashed' into reading these passages through 'charismatic' eyes, that we mis the point. The hearers were amazed, not because they were speaking in 'unlearned' languages, but simply that they all thought that these followers of Jesus were all from Galilee (v7) but they weren't ... these 120 Jewish believers were from every corner of the Roman empire ... Simon of Cyrene may well have been one of them! The other interesting thing is that the Jews that had been dispersed, almost all spoke Greek or Aramaic ... the Jews of the western Diaspora spoke Greek, while the Jews of the eastern Diaspora spoke Aramaic ... but with different 'dialects' or 'accents'. But on that holy feast day at the Temple, the priests would have been reading in Hebrew, a language that most of the Jews present would not have understood (hence the need for the septuagint). Hebrew was the 'holy' language, and it was totally inappropriate for anyone to start praising God in a common language ... hence the charge that they were drunk.

  • @TheGoodNews101
    @TheGoodNews101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matt, I like your video's and there is a lot of things I appreciate about my reformed brothers and fellow pastors. Here are a few things to consider: I've been serving God for 26 years starting at the age of 19. I came into the Kingdom of God experiencing the power of the Holy Spirit in ways that the Bible describes Him to move. The fruit of those experiences was being delivered from drugs-alcohol-life of sin. Being born again, on fire for God, power to live holy, and a great hunger for the Lord and His Word. Which is the fruit we all want to see as pastors. We see these things happen on regular basis. We hunger for the move of God like how it is described in the Gospel and book of Acts. Once you experience the fire of God you don't settle for the smoke.
    There are some things in God that we haven't experienced yet. Acts 19:1-7 The issue is that if we do not believe (not talking about saving faith) we will not see these things happen (Biblical Christianity) in our life or in our church. We choose to dismiss them through our system of interpretation, or read a book on why these manifestations (the ones we see in the Bible) of the Spirit have ceased. Like speaking in tongues, gifts of healing, miracles, gift of faith, prophecy, word of wisdom, and words of knowledge. Could it be that the devil is robbing the body of Christ through wrong interpretation and what our denomination teaches on the matter. Could it be unbelief. Could it be that we have erected doctrines to support our unbelief. Could it be that our teaching on the matter has stolen the blessings that God wants to pour out. Could it be that we want our services to be in "order" to the point that we are in control and not the Holy Spirit. Could it be that the 600 million Christians who speak in tongues as a prayer language have experienced something real that is plainly in the Word of God.
    This offends our natural man doesn't it? 1 Cor 2:14 "But a natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." This was a topic confusion in Biblical times as it is today. That's why Paul dedicated a whole chapter on it in 1 Cor 14. There is a difference between tongues as a gift for service in the body of Christ and tongues as a gift for your personal prayer language for the edification of our inward man.1 Cor 14:4 One is God speaking through a member of the Body of Christ to bless the church and the other is us speaking to God out of our spirit. When I pray in the spirit I am speaking to God. 1 Cor 14:2,14. Its possible to pray in the Spirit only (without interpretation) without others being blessed because its your personal prayer language between you and God. 1 Cor 14:16-17. We not only have it as a prayer language but as a way to worship by singing in tongues. 1 Cor 14:15. Even to the natural man it doesn't seem to far off that heaven would have it's own language. This is available as a gift for anyone who will ask for it. 1 Cor 14:5
    The other manifestation of tongues is patriarchally seen in Acts 2 when God was speaking a message through believers to bless others. This is a gift in the Body of Christ that is given to some but is not for everyone. 1 Corinthians 12:29. We lump it all together but the Bible distinguishes between them.
    God Bless my brother!

    • @rh10033
      @rh10033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! If you read 1 Corinthians 14 in context you will see that there is definitely a prayer language that some are gifted with.
      1 Cor. 14:2 For the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people, but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries.
      But there are also guidelines on how to use it. There must be an interpreter present or you are to remain silent.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rh10033 The prayer language that you speak of is also, in every instance, the first indication that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit.

    • @bigtobacco1098
      @bigtobacco1098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No prayer language

    • @bigtobacco1098
      @bigtobacco1098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What happened to the gift for 1800 years ??

  • @thefaithfullservantemmanue8227
    @thefaithfullservantemmanue8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for the teaching

  • @RyGuy8989
    @RyGuy8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m so blessed to belong to a church that teaches reformed theology, has orderly services, takes the Lord’s Supper every week, but yet still believes in the gifts. Paul clearly says that he has a heavenly language and he wishes everyone had it as well. No not everyone will have the gift of tongues just like all the other gifts. But our church treats all gifts biblically so that no one is blurting out anything unless someone has an interpretation just like Paul instructs. Also any prophecy or words of knowledge must go through the elders. There are way too many miracles and things that happen that are only from God to be a cessationist. Even Charles Spurgeon believed in the gifts. This is not adding anything to scripture.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Their are two operations of speaking in tongues according to scripture:
      1) The first evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit and the born again believers private prayer language for self edification.
      2) The gift of speaking in tongues that is to be accompanied by a believer with the gift of interpretation of tongues for the edification of a church assembly.

    • @saintlylamb
      @saintlylamb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cessationist still believe the gifts occur, just not apostolic gifts.

    • @bigtobacco1098
      @bigtobacco1098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No heavenly language

    • @jonathansaenger4819
      @jonathansaenger4819 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are blessed indeed! Charismatic reformed churches are few and far between

  • @redeemedreformed935
    @redeemedreformed935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou sir!

  • @danilarios2602
    @danilarios2602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So true

  • @jordyE..
    @jordyE.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 👍

  • @Rafael-FaithInChristAlone.
    @Rafael-FaithInChristAlone. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1 Cor 14:19 NKJV
    “ yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.”
    I believe you flipped it by mistake..
    Aside from that I do appreciate the teaching.

  • @kingcurmudgeon8685
    @kingcurmudgeon8685 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always read tongues as referring to people speaking in an actual different language (from a different country). It’s why the need for a translator is mentioned. I can’t accept the notion that someone can translate someone else’s babbling. When I see people do it I get very uncomfortable and feel as though there is a demonic element involved.

  • @SorrowfulJoy
    @SorrowfulJoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Pastor Matt, appreciate all of your wisdom!

  • @simoneee505
    @simoneee505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great

  • @PreacherJimC
    @PreacherJimC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have often had to discuss this with others. As a cessationist, I agree with you that prophesies, & healing is no longer in use (as human gifts post-apostolic age), and the act of tongues are, as you so eloquently put it not a gift for all Christians and should not be a manifestation of or required for Salvation.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking in tongues is always the first evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit.

    • @joshjay6765
      @joshjay6765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertnieten7259the bible says SOME receive the gift of tongues but we’ve ALL been baptized by the Spirit into the body.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshjay6765 According to scripture there are three operations of speaking in " tongues":
      1) The first evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit( Acts ch.2,10,and ch.19) and the born again believers private prayer language for self edification( 1Cor.14:4).
      2) The gift of speaking in tongues which is to be accompanied by a believer with the gift of interpretation so that all in a church gathering may be edified( 1Cor.ch.12:1,7).
      3) A sign to unbelievers.
      Not all believers have the gift(#2), but all do recieve the initial sign and prayer language when they recieve the Holy Spirit.

    • @joshjay6765
      @joshjay6765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertnieten7259 1 Cor 12: to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
      All Christians are baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body. Not all Christian’s receive the gift of tongues. There are times in scripture as you’ve mentioned, when believers speak in tongues after receiving the Holy Spirit, but the bible doesn’t teach that is always the case, or that speaking in tongues is a sign that you’ve received the Holy Spirit. Some receive the gift of tongues, but we’ve all been baptized by the Sprit.
      1 Cor 12:29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
      ..the obvious answer is no.

  • @ericthmpsn
    @ericthmpsn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the gift of tongues ,its 100% true, God showed me the language it was and somebody who spoke the language told me what i was saying

  • @randymarsh6564
    @randymarsh6564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Babellion? lol You mean Babylonian? LOL Great video though. This seriously needs to be heard by all who think jibberish is speaking in tongues.

  • @gunnartesdahl9347
    @gunnartesdahl9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's interesting about the regulative principle is that baptism, for example, is never specifically prescribed for the worship service. And we don't have any examples that I'm aware of with baptisms in a worship service in the NT. But tongues, prophecies, etc. are specifically prescribed for corporate Christian gatherings in 1 Corinthians. Is there an inconsistency here? I'm assuming that Matt has read Grudem and Storms on this subject, but both are soteriologically Reformed (although both are Baptists), and write great defenses of the continuationist view on tongues. But not all Reformed folks would agree with Matt on this.

    • @sovereigngrace9723
      @sovereigngrace9723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe he is referring to the historic reformed understanding.

  • @chrispatirot8575
    @chrispatirot8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Orderly is good
    but who is man to try to put God in a box I mean churches today would ask Jesus to leave. If he drove out a demon. They’d tell him we don’t believe that here Paul said if I speak in the tongue of angels or of men. So obviously he’s speaking of a angelic language

  • @JustinBrooke
    @JustinBrooke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said “to prophecy” is to preach forth the word. However, that is not what the definition says in Strongs Concordance. Brother I’d love a chance to have a private phone call with you and show you what I’ve found in the Word about gifts. They are real, they are for today, it’s in the Word, and I have personally experienced it. Love you and hope we get a chance to talk someday. ✌️❤️

    • @saintlylamb
      @saintlylamb ปีที่แล้ว

      There are two types of prophesy (1) preaching and words that you give to others through the Holy Spirit (2) telling future events. The second one is not in effect in current day, we don’t need it, everything we need is in the Bible. The canon is closed.

  • @philipwest4553
    @philipwest4553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Reformed view is one side in a multi-sided internecine dispute about doctrines. That being said, speaking in 'tongues' gives every evidence of being a nonsense.

    • @robertnieten7259
      @robertnieten7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Three times in the book of Acts it is recorded that believers recieved the Holy Spirit ( Acts 2, 10, and 19) and in every instance the first thing that happened was that they spoke in tongues. The bottom line is whether God sees this as sufficient evidence that a believer should expect to speak in tongues when they recieve the Holy Spirit.

  • @moisesg.v.1575
    @moisesg.v.1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The gift of speaking in tongues spoken of by Paul has nothing to do with the tongues of fire 🔥during Pentecost... Let me explain, the Spirit gives you the gift of speaking in an unknown tongue to you, this could be also the case for the audience or not as we can read in the Bible, in the case of Jerusalem it wasn't, in the case of the Corinthians it was, how do we know? Because they didn't understand what was being said hence the need for the interpretation, not so in Jerusalem during Pentecost. So speaking in tongues is also as the Bible says a prayer that your spirit leads towards God but your mind does not know what you are saying because once again it's not your mother tongue once again as Paul explains. Trying to say this is not the case by putting the example of what happened in Jerusalem during Pentecost is bad theology because they are two totally different manifestations in two totally different places and different peoples. So what should we do? Exactly what the Bible says, to wish these spiritual gifts as Paul encourages all to have but doing it in order, one comes with a message in tongues that nobody understands then the interpretation must follow and so on, and as Paul said, do NOT forbid the speaking in tongues but allow them to take place in order.
    Then there's the confusion between the gift of tongues which is for the church to bring a message from God that needs interpretation and there is a totally different type of tongue which is the private one that's the prayer Paul says builds oneself (spirit), that's an ability to any believer that has been baptised in the holy Spirit as the Bible explains every time was baptised either spoke in tongues or prophesied. Many confuse both unfortunately even though the Bible is clear to make a difference in how they come to be, their usage and benefits. Sadly you have radicals that totally ignore the proper use and abuse these like the Corinthians did falling in chaos and disorder and you have the opposite extreme where all is forbidden and even denied the blessing, also by confusing and misunderstanding again tongues for public services and tongues for private use as biblically explained by Paul. The blessing is in the balance, allowing both at the same time as doing it in order and following the instructions attached to it.
    1 Corinthians 14:5
    "Now I WANT YOU ALL TO SPEAK IN TONGUES, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, UNLESS (IMPORTANT WORD HERE TO INTERPRET CORRECTLY) someone interprets, so that the church may be built up." These were not tongues people knew like in Jerusalem because otherwise they wouldn't need to be interpreted.
    Context and attention to detail is everything. Sorry but pastor Matt is wrong in his interpretation even though he is right about some crazy Pentecostals out there, I have to agree with Paul here. By the way, prophesying is not the same as preaching a sermon.

    • @JBM101
      @JBM101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well said brother

  • @markrohde1050
    @markrohde1050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about other records from the book of acts when people believed and received the gift of Holy Spirit spoke in tongues?? Your presupposition on the subject to make it fit with your theology and not all a scripture is quite evident.

  • @alanhales1123
    @alanhales1123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matthew Everhard, your view of decently and in order isn't the Biblical decently and in order.
    Tongues does mean languages, Heavenly languages.
    The Bible records 8 supernatural operations of tongues, and every one of them are important to believers.
    Including the tongues that your denomination doesn't believe.
    Please note, they weren't preaching the gospel in
    Acts 2.
    The tongues in Acts 2 are just one of the eight supernatural operations of tongues that the Bible records..
    The tongues that Paul said not everyone will have, are one of the gifts of the Spirit, the tongues that need an interpretation, these tongues are just one of the eight operations of tongues please keep the Bible in it's right. context
    If you want the eight supernatural operations of tongues that the Bible records, I will show you.
    You don't know the Biblical teachings on tongues.

  • @bridgeviewcommunitychurch6411
    @bridgeviewcommunitychurch6411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    St. Paul says, "I want you all to speak in tongues" Here he is speaking to the Church at large not just Apostles. If you look only to the Bible you will see very clearly Tongues is a personal prayer language and when expressed as a gift in the Church congregation it must be accompanied with a interpretation. The biblical teaching of tongues is not the teachings of men that we see in some Churches today. But that does not nullify it is a real Biblical teaching for the Church today.

  • @czhappy3195
    @czhappy3195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TRUE SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS: READ ( ACTS 2:1-12).(" BECAUSE THAT EVERY MAN HEARD THEM SPEAK IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE"). YOU SPEAK AND ALL UNDERSTAND IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE!! ONLY JESUS CHRIST AND HIS DECIPLES DID THIS!!

    • @bridgeviewcommunitychurch6411
      @bridgeviewcommunitychurch6411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paul was talking to the Church when he said, "I speak in tongues more then you all" "I want you to all to speak in tongues" and "Do not forbid speaking in tongues".

  • @jerseyjim9092
    @jerseyjim9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just because one hasnt experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't Biblical.

    • @gblan
      @gblan ปีที่แล้ว

      I like how people/groups who do not share this experience develop all kinds of reasons as to why they do not. It’s like the late, great Andrae Crouch said, “I didn’t think it could be until it happened to me. You’ll never know that it’s true until it happens to you.” Millions upon millions of people around the world are filled with the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues. The number grows every day. How can anyone discount the validity of the experience?

  • @alanhales239
    @alanhales239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matthew Everhard, please note, they weren't preaching the gospel in Acts 2: 4--11, they were speaking the wonderful works of God Not preaching the gospel.
    There are eight operations of tongues that the Bible records, and everyone of them are very important to the believers
    And those tongues in Acts 2, is just one of them.
    There are tongues that no one knows only God, 1 Cor 14: 2. Then there are tongues that build us up. V4, then there tongues that are for our Spirit to pray. Vs 14--15.
    Then there's tongues that we can use to praise God, Vs 15--18.
    Then there tongues that need an interpretation 1 Cor 12: 10. This is one of the gifts of the Spirit. And this is the tongues that not everyone will have and shouldn't be confused with the other 7 operations of tongues.
    Tongues are a blood bought gift and you shouldn't refuse them.
    Tongues are the Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost, Jesus said All believers shall speak in tongues.
    Tongues are a Heavenly language, so those who have been baptized in the Holy Ghost, can speak with tongues of Angels.
    Please note, tongues are a part of a Church service, see 1 Cor 14: 15--17, & 26.

    • @MatthewEverhard
      @MatthewEverhard  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Gospel is the wonderful work of God! See Acts 2:22-24, whole paragraph. :-)

    • @alanhales239
      @alanhales239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MatthewEverhard the Gospel is a wonderful work of God, but they weren't preaching the gospel in Acts 2: 4--11. If they were the Bible would have said so.
      Also, God doesn't chose some for salvation and not others, God has chosen a body,
      (His Church) which is made up from every born again believer who chose salvation from their own free will.

  • @MichaelTheophilus906
    @MichaelTheophilus906 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless you have been baptized in the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues, you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • @Paladin1776-v6e
    @Paladin1776-v6e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 Corinthians 14:2 proves that tongues are an angelic prayer language to God, not to men. Tongues therefore has two meanings. Language to other men, and language to God. Why else would Paul be concerned about making sure outsiders don’t assume they’re drunk? To human ears, angelic tongues would sound like gibberish, because it’s not language to men but to God.