I heard a sound difference between different optical cables!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2023
  • #vintage #audiophile #streaming
    Comparing four optical cables:
    1. Generic with Toshiba plugs (5eur)
    2. QED Reference optical (150eur 0,6m)
    3. AudioQuest Vodka (260eur 0,75m)
    4. Wireworld Supernova 7 (~300eur 0,5m)
    My personal order of preference: AQ Vodka, Wireworld Supernova 7, QED Reference, Generic.
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  • @GoldenEagle0007
    @GoldenEagle0007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the mental gymnastics never ends 😅

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It will only end with life :)

    • @GoldenEagle0007
      @GoldenEagle0007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Justas-M 💯 😭

  • @SirFreak
    @SirFreak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I suspect any difference you think you might have heard is actually just a placebo effect. Unless a cable is faulty, there shouldn't be any difference in sound between those optical cables. That's because the signal is transferred digitally, not analog. The conversion from sound (digital) to light and back also happens outside of the cable. If you would do a null test, you'd see that there is actually no difference in the received audio from the different cables.
    The only way in which these cables will really differ is in build quality, so I definitely wouldn't waste any money on super expensive optical cables.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, you saved me from unnecessary expenses!

    • @Mario_Terzi
      @Mario_Terzi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @SirFreak All these people I would pay the doctor to have their 'hearing checked. So much for placebos!

  • @BoomerUKEngland
    @BoomerUKEngland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some years ago i purchased a qed carbon optical toslink, it made the audio worse compared to my regular existing optical cable, i sent the qed back. I was amazed there would be any different. Since that time i have also discovered coax digital cables can also sound different.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Absolutely, coax are even easier to justify that they can be different.

  • @s2601d
    @s2601d หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Audiophile detected

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well done!

  • @q2forever778
    @q2forever778 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow, for the first time I see such a short pinkie

  • @nstadsnes
    @nstadsnes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    placebo only,... you just cant.. its the same data signal... and light dont distort.. (maybe on a damaged fiber you can get some clipping)

  • @MrAxv
    @MrAxv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for an interesting and rare review of optical cables, very little information, very good result AudioQuest Diamond glass but it's expensive, спасибо 🙏

  • @a-j6798
    @a-j6798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice review! My comparison between QED Quartz Reference and AQ Vodka is slightly different. Vodka indeed sounds more natural and stage is bigger but QED has more details and therefore makes listening experience in a way more interesting compared to Vodka. Also in my setup Vodka is darker cable. So which in better...hard to say. I like them both.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very interesting! So your experience is similar in some aspects but different in a way. I ended up buying Lifatec Silflex after reading so many positive reviews on the web. It is very detailed and at first I thought it was defect as it revealed grain in high frequencies which I later fixed working on improving power supplies. I had an idea to compare it to Vodka but the plan did not materealise.

    • @a-j6798
      @a-j6798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Justas-M I put Lifatec Silflex on the list. I have DH Labs Glass Master coming soon. I let you know how it plays.

    • @AG-zw1ce
      @AG-zw1ce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a-j6798 And how did the dh labs sound for you? do you also have the Lifatec - a comparison between glass master and lifatec would be very interesting

    • @a-j6798
      @a-j6798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AG-zw1ce To my surprise, Vodka has a bit more holographic soundstage and little bit darker tone than DH LABS glass master. In other words Vodka is smoother. So in my current setup Vodka was "better". That is not to say DH Labs is bad, not at all. DH Labs is more brighter in some way. It is more natural than QED though. I have not ordered Lifatec yet.

  • @Casualfulltime
    @Casualfulltime ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've experienced this too! Cables 100% change the sound. I prefer mid range over the most expensive.

  • @a0r0a7
    @a0r0a7 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you understand fibre optic transmission you know this is nonsense. I worked in telecommunications with fibre, fibre is impervious to any issues related to copper cables. The only issue would be if damaged or connection is poor either end. It either works or does not work. Considering the ridiculously short fibre for a interconnect issues such as vibration are again nonsense.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I understand your position and agree these points should not be an issue. I did not believe myself there could be a difference before starting this comparison. But you know what, I stopped looking for explanations in Audio a year or so ago. Everything is important to sound signature and seemingly impossible to explain at the same time.

    • @a0r0a7
      @a0r0a7 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Justas-M I would say your first cable was faulty, as for the rest unless you didn't know what was in place and you said to someone that now sounds different and they changed the fibre just before the test then I might believe you. Sadly how fibre tech works it will simply decode the light received. Analogue copper cables yes, these cables face induction, close proximity or radio waves etc.. If it works for you good 👍

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@a0r0a7 faulty or not, my ultimate goal is to achieve satisfaction. The cable I have selected, provides me with that and I do not care for the physical underlying reasons. As mentioned previously, I stopped looking for explanations.

    • @a0r0a7
      @a0r0a7 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Like I said, good for you, enjoy👍

  • @cesargaray6137
    @cesargaray6137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Phillips cables sounds ok
    Monster cables THX certified sounds bassy but lacks details
    Pearl AQ sounds crispy, clean and the dialogues perfect and very detailed, even some 3d details but lacks some bass.
    Thats all folks!

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough!

    • @ChrisTaylor-dz6nk
      @ChrisTaylor-dz6nk วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If got ag.on sale cheap 😅

  • @KCsabi
    @KCsabi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's about light my brother, and the dac.
    The digital to analog conversion is not produced by a cable. External diameter is only coating that offers you some extra strenght, to not ruin with 90 degrees path.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think a lot can be explained by material qualities and vibration control.

    • @simonzinc-trumpetharris852
      @simonzinc-trumpetharris852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Justas-Mjust how is a beam of light going to be affected by vibrations? It's like saying that radio waves get blown by the wind.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 try to move a flashlight in the dark, you will see how "vibrations" impact the light.

  • @fuqui035
    @fuqui035 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My boss system came with the cable you call cheap worked fine

  • @adam872
    @adam872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only way to know if there is any difference is to measure the output and compare. With optical there should be no difference at all if you overlay the waveforms. I

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have no way to measure. But the difference was obvious.

    • @adam872
      @adam872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Justas-M this article, with measured results, may be of interest. I can't link to it directly, but punch this into Google: archimago Measurements: TosLink digital optical audio cables

  • @mikeprior8712
    @mikeprior8712 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Uh oh,here we go....

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good morning, hello!

  • @rogerturner1881
    @rogerturner1881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amplifier with Optical output to CD player with optical input = better sounding than RCA TO RCA connection?

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends, cannot really know until you test both scenarios.

  • @AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken
    @AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Optical cables add nasty jitter and degrade music. A horrible interconnect. Use coax

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my personal situation I find them more pleasing to the ear than Coax.

  • @AhmadFauzi-pd2tb
    @AhmadFauzi-pd2tb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $400 and you said its natural , good sound stage , detail and whatever,
    Its garbage bro, imho
    You need at least a $20000 cable to translate the file into and acurate signal

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think every comment counts for TH-cam algorithm, so I will leave yours here, I do not have anything to reply... :D

  • @noelcostantino1308
    @noelcostantino1308 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Total placebo effects it's impossible to heard in audio differrence with any Toshlink cables

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for your opinion!

    • @CyrilleBoucanogh
      @CyrilleBoucanogh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      why do you think so? Are you deep into math and physics to think so? Did you do millions of tests to be so sure? Toslink (not Tosh) is a realtime high speed digital data conductor, so the accuracy of the data would depend on the quality of the connectors and fiber. Cheap optical cables would transmit better if the wire is laid straight. All digital cables vary the realtime signal.

    • @Mario_Terzi
      @Mario_Terzi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CyrilleBoucanogh Exactly, very good answer!

    • @laszlolenner7957
      @laszlolenner7957 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣@@CyrilleBoucanogh

  • @eamonnbrown7877
    @eamonnbrown7877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only a nutcase would pay those crazy prices for the so called high end cables, any well made optical cable around £7 to £15 is all you need.

    • @Justas-M
      @Justas-M  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, that is a huge savings potential!

    • @eamonnbrown7877
      @eamonnbrown7877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Justas-M Sarcasm suits you.