Should people be able to seek asylum in Britain because they are gay?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2023
- Political commentator and former MEP, Patrick O’Flynn, and Host of The Bisexual Brunch, Lewis Oakley, comment on Suella Braverman's calls to rethink the requirements for asylum seekers in the UK.
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Being gay was illegal in the UK,the people changed that by demanding decriminalisation! The gay people of the countries they were born in should fight to change their laws,like we had to!
The problem was letting them marry.
I am increasingly convinced the tipping point was 2012.
Well said, it boils down to cowardice and laziness.
Exactly. Well said.
The people make a country… bring that third world here and we will become it. No else else will sort their countries out other than them.
No. From Ireland to Sweden the European is being demographically replaced.
yeh finally you colonised their lands now you get karma
@langraman8756 we also gave them the modern world, industrial revolution and infrastructure which still wouldn't be there now.
@@rogerdodger1790 it all started in the middle east that history
What happened to make them forget and go so tragically backwards?
Was it the habitual deceit or the pervasive violence?
@user-mt4ej3rp4y The transatlantic slave trade began with Spain and Portugal in the 1530s. England joined in in the 1660s. But abolished the trade in 1807. Stopping other countries too by 1860. The main invasions of Africa were between 1850 and 1900.
So neither was 500 years.
Plus, the enslavement was done by other Africans. Europeans provided the shipping as Africa was too backward to build a three masted sailing ship.
The Arab slave trade was much bigger and lasted much longer.
Man,woman,gay,straight its not about sexual orientation its about how many people the white british taxpayer can afford,i am 65 and paid into the system faithfully since i was 16 and now when i need the system its not there for me.
Get rid of your car.
Get rid of your boiler.
No open fires.
Stop travelling.
Don't use water.
Dont smoke ,even outdoors.
No never, I don't care what is going on in their own countries, they can stay out of Britain. It is no reason to grant asylum here.
No, they should fight to change the country they live in. The UK used to have laws against women voting, being gay and many other rights that where overturned. They were not solved by running away to another country.
That easy, eh?
@@chkldstgee2433 You pay to support and house them then!
@@chkldstgee2433Don't like the truth, do you?
Millions went to America, Canada, Australia etc.
@@letsdoitnow121 I already do. That's what you pay tax for.
We are always forgetting that this is England, a majority of the citizens are saying "No" to this whole situation, its like the media, politicians are missing the point! ppl are losing jobs, homes, ppl who never attempt to intergrate, its time to put the brakes on immigration, start looking after our own Homeless & areas of poverty, that are clearly obvious.
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Larry Grayson would have said:
Shut that door - on illegal immigration.
🤣🤣🤣
😂
Charles Hawtry preferred Hello Sailor!
More appropriate for the dinghies.
Seems like a nice boy 😂😂😂
Loophole - everybody will identify as gay, transgender, black,non binary, lebian in a wheelchair.... please feel free to tick the box if I've missed something
Doglovers. Like the Crocodile guy.
Remember what happened to the American Indian’s, they actually helped the early settlers to survive their first winter. Then history tells you what happened to them after.
Most American Indians were nomadic.
You just waited for them to move on then built a farm.
@@stephfoxwell4620They had summer quarters and winter quarters, so what happens when they return and find a farm there.
@@Jetaime69-e7l Some anger. Occasional killings and burnings.
Then here comes the Cavalry. Eventually the Native Americans were confined to the World's first concentration camps.
Usually on marginal unproductive land.
A lot migrated or were forced to Canada.
That’s until gold or oil was found on the land then they were kicked off of that too.
I live in an area where there’s a high number of asylum seekers, most of the pubs and hotels have been closed to house them ( mainly single men). Our town centre has become a no go zone because the well organised gangs are pick pocketing from the elderly, disabled and young mums with prams who are occupied and distracted. I’ve paid and worked all my life but when my partner needed an urgent consultant referral before he could be put in Parkinson’s medications they sent the appointment through for SIX MONTHS time 2024! Our children who were born and raised in uk are moving out of their birthplace to rent/buy up north because they don’t stand a chance on the council waiting list! I don’t care if the asylum seekers are black white, straight gay or anything in between WE ARE FULL let’s take care of our own for a change!
Does "taking care of our own" mean giving all people on benefits more money ?? Just checking exactly what you mean .
A common sentiment,mainly because it's true.
Asylum seekers must seek asylum in the FIRST safe country they reach regardless of their sex, gender, race, creed, colour of religion. That is the UNHCR's own rules / law. The UK is NOT the first safe country that these economic migrants / illegal immigrants reach. That is Italy, Austria, Germany or France. So the question is actually moot
What about Ukrainians? Is uk the first country that borders them? Why are they given a legal safe route?
That's not true !!! And you know it .
@@garyh1572 No, it's true, and you know it!
We had evacuees. They should start doing that again!
Braverman has made this Black Brit proud to be British again. We left the EU time to leave the defunct UN as well.
@user-mt4ej3rp4y In 2016 the Tories and Labour passed "The Investigatory powers act". The UN ruled this breaks basic human rights ( The ECHR also said the same as it breaks Article 8 ). I'm just wondering how you feel about that as being members of both the UN and ECHR hasn't stopped them "from doing exactly what they want" anyway. Which begs the question.. what's the point of being signed up to the UN and ECHR? Care to comment?
@user-mt4ej3rp4y The act breaks human rights as defined by the UN and ECHR. Its very nature puts British citizens at risk. I'm not "grasping at straws". Stop avoiding the question.
People are gaming the system it's a complete joke
Who cares , sort you own countries out , we are not the worlds hotel.
Does being a white heterosexual male of a certain age and political leaning qualify as being part of a persecuted group??
No. It makes you the persecutor.
Even if you try not to be.
It should now !!
No, but your not far off.
I dont care who it is for what reason, we need our country back!
Does that mean also stopping our water, gas and electricity from being in Private hands ??
Don't we have enough here already, what with the epidemic of gayness in the 15-30 age group?
Lol
These men will say whatever they need to say to get what they want. They’re offered money, accommodation, food, water, free medical care, bills paid etc etc, you really think their conscience is going to stop them making a claim that can’t be proven. People have become so naive and weak it’s painful to listen to.
There is a way to prove they are gay, it involves them getting on their knees, and .....
Perhaps the alphabet group could actually go to Africa and protest there for change, we don't need to take on asylum just because of sexual orientation.
Until they stop giving everything Free , Plus sort out the human rights Lawyers legal aid bill.
Nothing will change.
It's all about the money, cut the money and you cut the migrants.
No! We have taken more than enough in general we don’t need or want anymore!!
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If a teacher can not tell a 40 yr old man from a child , they need sacking.
Those who are genuinely gay like myself wouldn’t pay people smugglers thousands of pounds to cross the channel from one LGBT friendly country to another.
Do you think they should be tested for their gayness ? if so, what method do you recommend.
What Next??? Pedophiles, cannibals & rapists should be granted Asylum, because they're persecuted in the own country???..😂😂😂😂
I'm persecuted for thinking the Earth is flat.
Britain makes me a criminal for smoking weed can i go to USA please, free hotel room, 24 hr protection, free food, sweet.
And rightly so.
Cannabis is an insidious evil responsible for much crime and poor mental health.
NO.
Every single door needs to be shut, every single loophole needs to be tightened.
There is not one system that these individuals will not abuse.
Air balloons are next.
How would we know they are gay? They could just be saying it. We’d need to see video evidence,
😂
Agreed. POV insertion or no entry!
Say there gay when there get stay in England there start having around 12 kids
There's a simple test, they get down on their knees and ....
The UK should become the Gaysrael of the Middle West.👍🇬🇧✌
NO
Absolutely not!.
One of the final points, is there being persecuted they're worried they might be in the future, what a stupid thing to say. "I might be persecuted some time, over something, let me live in your country and I demand a house, education, free healthcare and money till I get on my feet". Like everything else, if you abuse something eventually you'll lose it.
Patrick is spot on...
I once saw him jogging.
It’s bad enough that everyone in the world wants to live in the UK but surely we don’t really want every gay person coming to live here.
I promise you I am trying to get out. The taxes here are mental.
If they are gay, no. If they are gay and discriminated against, no. If they are gay and persecuted, yes. Its important here to remember that people are discriminated against, for a host of reasons, all over the world, all the time. For example, in recent years Greater Manchester Police advertised career opportunities for which heterosexual white males were banned from applying. In other words, the government (in the form of Greater Manchester Police) openly discriminated against white heterosexual males. Were these men persecuted by the UK government? No. Were they openly discriminated against? Yes.
I think Suella is correct and I applaud her for speaking up. 👏👏🇬🇧
She couldn't care less for British people . They just see £ signs
Real refugees need help not military age young dudes in £200 trainers.
Is it cause I is black.
In some countries drinking alcohol is an offense. Should drinkers from these countries be allowed to have the right to claim asylum in countries where alcohol consumption is allowed?
It is blasphemy to drink alcohol. Milk is ok, you can drink milk.
@@SzTz100 Tell that to the Saudis ! !
@@jamesk1k Apparently they all drink Jack Daniels in their homes.
the logical qestion has to be how many gay people are in the developing world where it isn't tollerated.. and can we house them all in Britain? Because if we have a policy of taking in anyone who is for example gay from a country that happens to not comply with that human right , then surely we have to accept that our policy means an unlimited number can come..
watched DJE Media channel that covers migrants hotels. There were Kuwaiti and Saudi Arabian nationals who have seeked asylum staying at hotels while UK gov is allied to those countries
All these men lying 🤣🤣 just a free pass😮
It's an interesting question for sure. I would prefer that people would fight for their rights in their own nations by politically having the numbers to do it, social change is always the majority. Running away will not change the politics in your own nation.
Seeking asylum has made the uk an asylum.
And we are stuck in this asylum.
Its not a hard concept to grasp surely that everything, including countries, have limitations. We dont have infinite room and resources. We cant solve every problem in the world
I agree tougher tests are needed. It is easy to say you are gay to seek asylum status. People are so frightened or being called …phobic, it is accepted by words. If you apply in other countries, heterosexual partnership visas proof is thorough. Phone calls, bills, shared bank account etc. We fought hard in this country for fairness, not long ago to be gay was illegal in the U.K., women couldn’t vote and capital punishment sentences were handed down. Fight the fight in your home country, make a difference, stand up be brave as people here have been.
I agree, they should be tested for their gayness, they need to get down on their knees, and ....
I can imagine it now. The thick morning fog resting over a calm English Channel. Then, all you can hear, as your gaze is fixed to where the shoreline would be, cutting through the mist..."Yooooou Whoooooo!", over the sound of German techo music as the dinghie slides ashore 😂
They should stay and help to reform their own countries, simple resist or be replaced by British people
The UN Convention on Refugees is absurd. Western nations have endured many centuries of despotic government. If your country is bad, improve it.
simple answer No
No. Next.
Why don't these people who prefer supporting non British, swap countries to live in to help if their so for it. They wanting poor brits to have no home school operations dentists ok. If their so for it, why not give up their British passport and swap countries for them
The British taxpayer has made their feelings known on several occasions. It is obvious that nobody is listening. So why ask us what we think about this particular subject, our v8ews and concerns are being ignored.
No
He thinks I couldnt look one of these people in the face and say go? 😅😅😅😅Maybe five years ago, not today.
No.
It’s not hard to prove your gay
Time our government had human element to British poor living in containers is dehumanising off British born
No it isn't.
Considering there is a large contingent of a certain religious group who believe being gay can be cured with an impromptu flying lesson from a tall building, I don't think this is a wise claim to make on the off chance you get to stay. Especially considering you'll probably be placed in a hotel full of people with the same view. 😂
I don't really think our opinions matter one way or another. Braverman isn't going to enact this policy is she. All talk and no balls that woman.
Nope.
Answer: No . Next question.
GB not first safe country reached..
I do not believe in helping any more asylum seekers should be allowed in the European Union or in Britain
Even if your gay you are safe in the first safe country you go to, why risk your life even more to travel further, it’s not that you have been told travel to the UK hotel money easy life , of course it is
I know a guy from Nigeria who got asylum in Canada by claiming to be gay, now he just got married to his girlfriend.
Me and my family came here as asylem seekers, not becsuse we didn't like the politics in our country but becsuse of war, the asylem system here now is a joke and taking anyone with a sad story.
Please tell your activist guest that being gay has nothing to do with gender identity, so the term ‘LGBT’ is completely pointless.
THEY REJECTED BUT PROBABLY STILL HERE IN UK?, ITS A JOKE AND AN ABUSIVE JOKE, UPON US ALL...
I HAVE ALREADY TURNED MEN DOWN, BECAUSE I NOT AS THEY SWING!!!
ITS CREEPY OF THEM...
The country agrees with her get on with it kick them out
How do you prove you are gay?
Fellatio for the interviewer?
@@GKSC lol. No wonder labour wants to let everyone in!
No because 99% won't be
Always the UK, the soft touch of the world, we take anybody, just come here and live off our taxes , let other people go out and do a day's work while you do nothing and take take take of others hard work.
how many buzz words can you cram into a monologue.
Apparently you just say you are. They know you cant prove it theyve been told. Oh yeah and there 14 as well with receding hairline and moustache
1% and their family,
GBBC news going down hill.
No def not
Isabelle so snooty
Religion 😱😱
😂😂
Religious belief has a lot to answer for with regard to hostile social attitudes to gays in many other countries.
No, simple as that.
Why are they not going to the first country that they are not persecuted then?
Hell NO.
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No.
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