The only real upgrades Rovan Lt need is alu throttle horn and zenoah engine with ori carb, lipo. Good to haves: push pull steering, full steel clutch. But all that is also relevant for losi
I’ve had both and you get what you pay for! if quality in design and development is what you’re after, but if it’s just a basher a copy that gets it done is fine! and save some money to put towards other upgrades like servos or decent carby or shocks
@@Victic005Exactly, for the price difference you're paying for the name Losi. Take some of your extra money and get a clutch, shock oil, and seal the center diff.
Im sad people are having issues with ROVAN :( I’ve had mine for 2 months and haven’t had any issues besides steering servo screw came out on 3rd tank. Lost steering for a minute. Otherwise from that diffs felt amazing so did the suspension. My buddy has a LOSI 5T 2.0 so I drove one and know how it feels, it’s 1/1 I did get 45cc 2022 model.. it’s a bit faster than my buddy’s 29cc with Zenoah motor I mean to be fair I don’t jump my car that high.. and mainly tear it up in grass / dirt. I am looking to upgrade to a Taylor 40GT motor or switch to electric and put some 12s though it. Seen a kit online for $800 includes everything but battery’s it’s a MAX combo with mounts and battery tray. I got 6s battery’s already. Soo it’s just a matter of time lol
rovan fucked up with engines. I'm saying this everywhere. Actual chassis are decent/ok/mixed quality but overall definitely good for the money. Their electrics are good too, I tortured mine for few years, still all stock servos going strong without abnormal slope. Especially their 45cc is total trash. 29cc on the other hand, the one in their cheapest baja is fantastic. At least was cuz mine doesn't work properly anymore, it's probably not properly sealed anymore and just barely idles. Symptoms are like with lack of fuel, constant bog. But until then it worked for few years almost flawlessly, always started super easy in one-two pulls, actually easier than my zenoah g320
Do the basement flood test, my losi 5t 2.0 was submerged in shit flood water when we had a one of a century flood in Michigan 2 years ago!😂 i only burned all stock servos, replaced it with waterproof ones. After hosing it down and disinfecting it, well few rust here and there where wd40 cant handle, all bearings, engine survived! Still rocks to this day ALL Stock!
Cool, I put new engine, few wheels, few upgrades, few broken parts, steel clutch and still it all cost me cheaper than łosi ; I'm not against łosi but 5ive is very overpriced
Good video mate, I agree with conclusion, it's definitely not łosi quality, but it's still better deal. It's good option imo for someone like me who always dreamed about 5ive but like almost everyone just can't spend such crazy cash on toy. So to me some issues almost doesn't matter. What matters is that I could afford not perfect 5ive, work on it, fix improve etc. But I would never buy łosi. Ever. So in a way rovan does more good to hobby than łosi imo. And market verified what's better deal. Both hpi and łosi overpriced fifth scales are out of market while 30dnt, rovan etc are thriving. And that's good! The market have this beautiful feat of self regulation, and customers decided with their money what's better for most people ;]
I agree. Rovan is a hell of a lot cheaper. But you do get what you pay for. As long as you get to enjoy it, no matter what brand it is, is all that matters.
Some differences in my Lt bought around 2020-21. Mine was 450, so the best equipped version but with worst engine. Fully conscious decision on my part. Drive with that engine till it falls apart and get zenoah. Some notes: mine quality control was better, everything was tight and thread locked really well. Diffs felt perfectly,all sealed, though my center also leaked oil. Throttle servo horn was stripped. Few plastic threads were stripped from the factory. My shocks were perfect from factory and felt buttery smooth and still are. Chassis setup was also very good in terms of geometry etc. So u could say there were both positive and negative surprises. I can defo forgive all small imperfections/quality control issues on chassis but engine is total crap unfortunately. Servos and radios are good. fast enough though I wish receiver would be high voltage cuz I'd want to sport 3s in it, servos would almost surely take it and be crazy fast. The only mist haves for rovan Lt are push pull steering, alu throttle horn and of course zenoah engine with ori carb. All the rest is mix of ok/fine/good. Drivetrain is also good quality metal after over year of abuse diffs are strong and shafts have just minimal wear. I think I stripped spider gears in central diff but they took quite some driving so I can forgive that. I just locked it with screws and nuts and drive with locked center diff, for bashing it's better, especially now in snow lol 😅
Yup 1000Euro for Rovan lt450 and around 350 for ready to install że oah g320. Łosi 5ive 1600euro. But you get many alu parts with Rovan and you can spread that price in time. Drive with stock crap engine for 6-12months then get zenoah. That's what I did. And its also not like losi doesn't need upgrades. It's comes with plastic braces on chassis,.crappy servos and useless box exhaust. So add like 400Euro for just those. Anyway it's pointless to argue about which one is better.. obviously losi is better. But 99% can't afford it and even Rovan Lt is still very expensive for toy. That needs to be constantly reminded to spoiled millionaire brats talking about łosi superiority, so they don't forget most people aren't freaking millionaires 😂
There's room for both, but I would have never been able to afford one if it wasn't for the 30 deg north option, which is even better than a rovan. Losi's are over 2 grand at my hobby shop and u need a radio. The pricing of the big RC companies up here in Canada has gotten outta control, like 1500 bucks all in for an Xmax? Go the F*#*# home man like jeepers creepers. This can only suffice for so long before no new kids are getting into the hobby and then down the road we all suffer with another massive plummet away from hobby growth. Its very frustrating, so I'm so glad there is options out there like this. 👍🏼👍🏼
@@romper4444exactly. Nothing like americans with 6cars two 200m houses telling you łosi is better 😂 Like, yeah everyone know ferrari is better than gt86, but it's irrelevant for pretty much everyone
Heres my advice from someone who have rovan baja and rovan lt. Dont get losi. Dont get Lt. Get baja. Its cheap, fun, simple, light, reliable, easy to work on. 5ive is exact opposite. Im serious 4x4 is fun and all but with gassers you won't be doing any serious offroad/crawling anyway. And thats all advantages of 5iven platform (4x4). Everything else is worse. Baja have also lot of optional parts/upgrades if youre into wasting money :)
I disagree with you. I’ve had 3 hpi bajas. All a pain and constantly breaking… my 5ive t hasn’t broke once, and I’ve had it for a couple years now. The rovan broke a couple times. I race these things, I put a lot of abuse on them. The 5ive t is a superior platform. It’s 10x easier to clean. The bajas have so many small nooks and spots where crap gets stuck. The 5ive t is a lot more spread out and so much easier to access everything.
replace your rear drive shaft with the losi one.. the stock rovan rear drive shaft seems to always bend and death wobble the bearing in the diff case to death.. during racing season MULTIPLE people went through bearings and rear diff cases because of the rear drive shaft bending. i ASSUME its softer metal than the stock losi one.. and because its softer metal and being the long length that it is it will bend under torque when landing. also buy a shock kit for the shocks.. they are decent shocks but the fluid is TOO light and the damper pistons inside are WAY too loose..
@@cameronlogan01 the electrics are a LOT faster and more technical and tighter racing around the track.. but are usually only 15 lap heats, and the way we have our track set up we run the electrics half track due to limited run time of electrics.. the gassers are ALL limited to 32cc stock porting and carb, tuned pipes are aloud and all the suspension and chassis upgrades you want as long as you keep stock geometry. gassers run full track and 25 laps. we generally have a TON of fun but are losing a lot of guys due to cost.
Yeah that’s fair. Our track is more so for fun (we have 1 track that I know of in southern Canada). Not many people come out anymore. Last time I think there were 3 of us. Hoping this season is better. I actually bought the 2.0 last week so we can have another truck out there. Sucks because 1/5 is my favourite class to run. I imagine it’s also due to cost as to why we’re losing people too.
Look, if money is not object for ya then losi is obvious choice. But for every normal working person rovan is just so much better deal. Yes there are lot of issues in stock form and engines are mostly useless so they are for people who are not afraid to get hands dirty. american millionaires who change parts because they got dirty obviously won't be interested in that, will get losi and all, mostly useless "upgrades" like alu fuel cap and suspension arms 😂 Financially imo you can't win with 5ive and his clones. I heard 30dnt is superb clone. And you can get roller chassis so thats probably the best deal with zenoah 320. Imo get 30dnt or just any baja clone. They are soooo much simpler,.more reliable and tbh often more fun. Just because 5ives are more expensive doesn't mean better. They are super heavy, complex, maintenance heavy and extremely expensive. Baja is just careless driving smashing shit. Parts are cheap and easy to replace. Maybe besides diff😂
Yes. But Rovan is better value. For someone desperate to get 5ive it's good option. I don't care for some issues that can be worked on or improved with few upgrades. Thanks to Rovan its possible for me to own 5ive platform. With łosi it wasn't possible. And probably thousands of people were is situation like me. Rovan deserves all the crap it gets though for those engines.
Ok ok ok, you say rovan over the losi due to saving a grand then go on for 10 minutes as to why the losi . Um ok so by your logic take that rovan add up all the replacement parts to get the quality up to what a factory losi is then tell me where is that savings?. Rovan used 6061soft easy to bend and cheap where losi used 7075 aluminum that is far more robust and Ridgid. Also add in the cost of all 3 diffs as you openly said where junk not to mention the bearings to go with that and all the7075 parts. Then the shocks , rovan shocks should be tossed in the bin and just replaced with the losi ones proline ones or mcd. Add that into your rovan cheap price also. And let's just say the plastics are a wash but you know damn well they still are not as good as the losi. Now the engine, yes the engine we can look at this a few different ways as most racers will replace the motor with a more race type program there anyway but it will still cost more to due so on a rovan simply because the parts associated with an engine swap like the clutch and pipe are better on the losi and not really needed to be replaced. Add that plus you can get a losi as a race roller minus motor for less then a rovan so again where is that cost savings. The body well rovan may not be 100% the same in some places as the losi due to unknown copyright issue I assume but do look close enough to a stock losi to make them a slight advantage on cost but for me I'd go losi on that body set even if it was a few extra duckets. Now when you say and openly admit it's 100% a clone of the real car and sales from the rovan will not hurt horizon or losi themselves, that's where you are 110% WRONG!!!!!. Not only does it financially hurt losi and horizon and all the companies they use as vendors to put that kit into a box to get it to your work bench but it's also a huge black eye to the hobby and victims of the people who sell these things as the real deal . People will buy them thinking they are the real losi they have a bunch of issues that you yourself pointed out and they automatically associate the rovan to losi and it's an automatic black mark to the company. Being your a crapadian I don't fault you for not having the made in the USA mentality that Americans do with American companies but you are also part of the problem with this hobby and being ok with a straight up rip off of another company. Shame on you
What about hpi baja? Its better rovan baja its just a exclusive body but its now worth to buy something in 1500 dls than a rovan baja on 600 box you Can actually lie
@@l4ncer2005 I'd still go with the hpi over rovan simply on principle and also due to the fact the quality is far better with hpi then rovan. Not to mention hpi is the god father of the class
Your missing the fact that he said he raced all season like that and it was fine, you don't HAVE TO upgrade anything(or very little)and everyone against clones acts like your not going to spend money on the losi, you absolutely will. And the solution to really put this to bed is buy a 30 deg north truck, many have made fact based arguments that they are even better than a losi and still 40-50% cheaper. They've made multiple improvements on the design!
@@romper4444 no you actually missed the point entirely and missed his message of the vid. In the vid he admitted to having to replace the motor a bunch of parts and what not to race. Losi and hpi are still and always will be the go to until I can afford a MCD
@@jaybomb5022 quality of plastics, drivetrain, engines are full crap on rovan Zenoah is million times better, suspension. Losi is just much better seen both friend owns 2 rovans and i own a 5ive both agree 5ives are much better also the creator of 1:5 scale 😁
@@ygtx44 I'm an owner not just a speculator. Those differences don't matter to someone unless you are constantly racing or bashing. 90% of owners aren't racing, making the losi much less worth it. As he mentioned he beats losis with it, a million times better is beyond exaggerant and my 34cc stock KM beats the pricey 30.5cc zenoah all freaking day.
Yup 1000Euro for Rovan lt450 and around 350 for ready to install że oah g320. Łosi 5ive 1600euro. But you get many alu parts with Rovan and you can spread that price in time. Drive with stock crap engine for 6-12months then get zenoah. That's what I did. And its also not like losi doesn't need upgrades. It's comes with plastic braces on chassis,.crappy servos and useless box exhaust. So add like 400Euro for just those. Anyway it's pointless to argue about which one is better.. obviously losi is better. But 99% can't afford it and even Rovan Lt is still very expensive for toy. That needs to be constantly reminded to spoiled millionaire brats talking about łosi superiority, so they don't forget most people aren't freaking millionaires 😂
Nice comparison. Thanks for sharing
nice video bro, liked and subbed
I would buy the Rovan all day.
china quality speedrun
@@ygtx44 they are good quality. Just upgrade what's bad with the money you'll save.
@@Victic005 not even close to losi guality but yeah if you do upgrades i quess
@@ygtx44 for the saving, I'll take a little lower quality. They get thrashed when you crash anyway. And most part will be upgraded anyway.
The only real upgrades Rovan Lt need is alu throttle horn and zenoah engine with ori carb, lipo.
Good to haves: push pull steering, full steel clutch. But all that is also relevant for losi
I’ve had both and you get what you pay for! if quality in design and development is what you’re after, but if it’s just a basher a copy that gets it done is fine! and save some money to put towards other upgrades like servos or decent carby or shocks
I got more than what I paid for in my Rovan.
@@Victic005Exactly, for the price difference you're paying for the name Losi.
Take some of your extra money and get a clutch, shock oil, and seal the center diff.
Shocks are actually one of best parts of rovan..
They still aren't with no issues but they decent quality in that they don't leak and are very smooth
Im sad people are having issues with ROVAN :(
I’ve had mine for 2 months and haven’t had any issues besides steering servo screw came out on 3rd tank. Lost steering for a minute. Otherwise from that diffs felt amazing so did the suspension. My buddy has a LOSI 5T 2.0 so I drove one and know how it feels, it’s 1/1 I did get 45cc 2022 model.. it’s a bit faster than my buddy’s 29cc with Zenoah motor
I mean to be fair I don’t jump my car that high.. and mainly tear it up in grass / dirt. I am looking to upgrade to a Taylor 40GT motor or switch to electric and put some 12s though it. Seen a kit online for $800 includes everything but battery’s it’s a MAX combo with mounts and battery tray. I got 6s battery’s already. Soo it’s just a matter of time lol
rovan fucked up with engines.
I'm saying this everywhere. Actual chassis are decent/ok/mixed quality but overall definitely good for the money. Their electrics are good too, I tortured mine for few years, still all stock servos going strong without abnormal slope. Especially their 45cc is total trash. 29cc on the other hand, the one in their cheapest baja is fantastic.
At least was cuz mine doesn't work properly anymore, it's probably not properly sealed anymore and just barely idles. Symptoms are like with lack of fuel, constant bog.
But until then it worked for few years almost flawlessly, always started super easy in one-two pulls, actually easier than my zenoah g320
Do the basement flood test, my losi 5t 2.0 was submerged in shit flood water when we had a one of a century flood in Michigan 2 years ago!😂 i only burned all stock servos, replaced it with waterproof ones. After hosing it down and disinfecting it, well few rust here and there where wd40 cant handle, all bearings, engine survived! Still rocks to this day ALL Stock!
Cool, I put new engine, few wheels, few upgrades, few broken parts, steel clutch and still it all cost me cheaper than łosi ;
I'm not against łosi but 5ive is very overpriced
Good video mate, I agree with conclusion, it's definitely not łosi quality, but it's still better deal.
It's good option imo for someone like me who always dreamed about 5ive but like almost everyone just can't spend such crazy cash on toy.
So to me some issues almost doesn't matter. What matters is that I could afford not perfect 5ive, work on it, fix improve etc.
But I would never buy łosi. Ever.
So in a way rovan does more good to hobby than łosi imo.
And market verified what's better deal.
Both hpi and łosi overpriced fifth scales are out of market while 30dnt, rovan etc are thriving. And that's good!
The market have this beautiful feat of self regulation, and customers decided with their money what's better for most people ;]
I agree. Rovan is a hell of a lot cheaper. But you do get what you pay for. As long as you get to enjoy it, no matter what brand it is, is all that matters.
Some differences in my Lt bought around 2020-21. Mine was 450, so the best equipped version but with worst engine. Fully conscious decision on my part. Drive with that engine till it falls apart and get zenoah.
Some notes: mine quality control was better, everything was tight and thread locked really well. Diffs felt perfectly,all sealed, though my center also leaked oil.
Throttle servo horn was stripped. Few plastic threads were stripped from the factory.
My shocks were perfect from factory and felt buttery smooth and still are.
Chassis setup was also very good in terms of geometry etc.
So u could say there were both positive and negative surprises.
I can defo forgive all small imperfections/quality control issues on chassis but engine is total crap unfortunately.
Servos and radios are good. fast enough though I wish receiver would be high voltage cuz I'd want to sport 3s in it, servos would almost surely take it and be crazy fast.
The only mist haves for rovan Lt are push pull steering, alu throttle horn and of course zenoah engine with ori carb.
All the rest is mix of ok/fine/good.
Drivetrain is also good quality metal after over year of abuse diffs are strong and shafts have just minimal wear.
I think I stripped spider gears in central diff but they took quite some driving so I can forgive that. I just locked it with screws and nuts and drive with locked center diff, for bashing it's better, especially now in snow lol 😅
I have king motor and rovan still haven't broken anything and I race them too. But still run my losi and hpi products less cause of price point
Yup 1000Euro for Rovan lt450 and around 350 for ready to install że oah g320.
Łosi 5ive 1600euro.
But you get many alu parts with Rovan and you can spread that price in time.
Drive with stock crap engine for 6-12months then get zenoah. That's what I did.
And its also not like losi doesn't need upgrades. It's comes with plastic braces on chassis,.crappy servos and useless box exhaust.
So add like 400Euro for just those.
Anyway it's pointless to argue about which one is better.. obviously losi is better. But 99% can't afford it and even Rovan Lt is still very expensive for toy.
That needs to be constantly reminded to spoiled millionaire brats talking about łosi superiority, so they don't forget most people aren't freaking millionaires 😂
Chique carro 🚗
Losi all the way simply can't beat it for what it was made for
My rovan beat Losi’s at the track 🤷🏻♂️. But yes for quality Losi 100%. But for price, rovan. When things break on the rovan put losi parts on it.
Its like hpi baja higer quality but its faster rovan baja
There's room for both, but I would have never been able to afford one if it wasn't for the 30 deg north option, which is even better than a rovan. Losi's are over 2 grand at my hobby shop and u need a radio. The pricing of the big RC companies up here in Canada has gotten outta control, like 1500 bucks all in for an Xmax? Go the F*#*# home man like jeepers creepers. This can only suffice for so long before no new kids are getting into the hobby and then down the road we all suffer with another massive plummet away from hobby growth. Its very frustrating, so I'm so glad there is options out there like this. 👍🏼👍🏼
Pretty sure they were made for the same thing… to be toy cars 😂
@@romper4444exactly.
Nothing like americans with 6cars two 200m houses telling you łosi is better 😂
Like, yeah everyone know ferrari is better than gt86, but it's irrelevant for pretty much everyone
Heres my advice from someone who have rovan baja and rovan lt.
Dont get losi. Dont get Lt.
Get baja.
Its cheap, fun, simple, light, reliable, easy to work on. 5ive is exact opposite.
Im serious
4x4 is fun and all but with gassers you won't be doing any serious offroad/crawling anyway. And thats all advantages of 5iven platform (4x4). Everything else is worse.
Baja have also lot of optional parts/upgrades if youre into wasting money :)
My main point is... The ratio of driving Vs wrenching on baja is incomparably better. 5ive is like 80% wrenching fixing improving, baja is like 20-30%
Even cleaning is so much chore for 5ive
I disagree with you. I’ve had 3 hpi bajas. All a pain and constantly breaking… my 5ive t hasn’t broke once, and I’ve had it for a couple years now. The rovan broke a couple times. I race these things, I put a lot of abuse on them. The 5ive t is a superior platform. It’s 10x easier to clean. The bajas have so many small nooks and spots where crap gets stuck. The 5ive t is a lot more spread out and so much easier to access everything.
replace your rear drive shaft with the losi one.. the stock rovan rear drive shaft seems to always bend and death wobble the bearing in the diff case to death.. during racing season MULTIPLE people went through bearings and rear diff cases because of the rear drive shaft bending. i ASSUME its softer metal than the stock losi one.. and because its softer metal and being the long length that it is it will bend under torque when landing. also buy a shock kit for the shocks.. they are decent shocks but the fluid is TOO light and the damper pistons inside are WAY too loose..
Good to know. I have a genuine 1.0 and 2.0 now though. But that’s good info for everyone else. Thank you
@@cameronlogan01 i have a 1.0 gas, 2.0 electric conversion and 2 rovans
Oh sick. How are you liking electric? I love gas so both of mine are staying that way lol. Ones a built zenoah 32 the other is stock zenoah 32.
@@cameronlogan01 the electrics are a LOT faster and more technical and tighter racing around the track.. but are usually only 15 lap heats, and the way we have our track set up we run the electrics half track due to limited run time of electrics.. the gassers are ALL limited to 32cc stock porting and carb, tuned pipes are aloud and all the suspension and chassis upgrades you want as long as you keep stock geometry. gassers run full track and 25 laps. we generally have a TON of fun but are losing a lot of guys due to cost.
Yeah that’s fair. Our track is more so for fun (we have 1 track that I know of in southern Canada). Not many people come out anymore. Last time I think there were 3 of us. Hoping this season is better. I actually bought the 2.0 last week so we can have another truck out there. Sucks because 1/5 is my favourite class to run. I imagine it’s also due to cost as to why we’re losing people too.
Look, if money is not object for ya then losi is obvious choice. But for every normal working person rovan is just so much better deal. Yes there are lot of issues in stock form and engines are mostly useless so they are for people who are not afraid to get hands dirty.
american millionaires who change parts because they got dirty obviously won't be interested in that, will get losi and all, mostly useless "upgrades" like alu fuel cap and suspension arms 😂
Financially imo you can't win with 5ive and his clones.
I heard 30dnt is superb clone.
And you can get roller chassis so thats probably the best deal with zenoah 320.
Imo get 30dnt or just any baja clone.
They are soooo much simpler,.more reliable and tbh often more fun.
Just because 5ives are more expensive doesn't mean better.
They are super heavy, complex, maintenance heavy and extremely expensive.
Baja is just careless driving smashing shit. Parts are cheap and easy to replace. Maybe besides diff😂
It’s only a 300 dollar difference
I paid $1000CAD less for the Rovan... just have to shop around. If Ii remember correctly I paid 1100 shipped to my door in Canada.
It's much more than 300😂 where are you ahoppin?
And even besides that, the impudence calling it "only"😂
Like, gtfo dude. I got brand new zenoah g320 for my LT for not much more
Hell noooo losi way better quality
Yes. But Rovan is better value.
For someone desperate to get 5ive it's good option. I don't care for some issues that can be worked on or improved with few upgrades.
Thanks to Rovan its possible for me to own 5ive platform. With łosi it wasn't possible. And probably thousands of people were is situation like me.
Rovan deserves all the crap it gets though for those engines.
U can buy a rovan and upgrade it with taylor parts and still be cheaper than losi!!! Trust me i know what im talking about😅
No and everything on it has problems.
I have king motor and rovan still haven't broken anything and I race them too. But still run my losi and hpi products less cause of price point
@@alanmeyers3957You don't own either based on how you respond.
I have both the Rovan is fine. 😂
Ok ok ok, you say rovan over the losi due to saving a grand then go on for 10 minutes as to why the losi . Um ok so by your logic take that rovan add up all the replacement parts to get the quality up to what a factory losi is then tell me where is that savings?. Rovan used 6061soft easy to bend and cheap where losi used 7075 aluminum that is far more robust and Ridgid. Also add in the cost of all 3 diffs as you openly said where junk not to mention the bearings to go with that and all the7075 parts. Then the shocks , rovan shocks should be tossed in the bin and just replaced with the losi ones proline ones or mcd. Add that into your rovan cheap price also. And let's just say the plastics are a wash but you know damn well they still are not as good as the losi. Now the engine, yes the engine we can look at this a few different ways as most racers will replace the motor with a more race type program there anyway but it will still cost more to due so on a rovan simply because the parts associated with an engine swap like the clutch and pipe are better on the losi and not really needed to be replaced. Add that plus you can get a losi as a race roller minus motor for less then a rovan so again where is that cost savings. The body well rovan may not be 100% the same in some places as the losi due to unknown copyright issue I assume but do look close enough to a stock losi to make them a slight advantage on cost but for me I'd go losi on that body set even if it was a few extra duckets. Now when you say and openly admit it's 100% a clone of the real car and sales from the rovan will not hurt horizon or losi themselves, that's where you are 110% WRONG!!!!!. Not only does it financially hurt losi and horizon and all the companies they use as vendors to put that kit into a box to get it to your work bench but it's also a huge black eye to the hobby and victims of the people who sell these things as the real deal . People will buy them thinking they are the real losi they have a bunch of issues that you yourself pointed out and they automatically associate the rovan to losi and it's an automatic black mark to the company. Being your a crapadian I don't fault you for not having the made in the USA mentality that Americans do with American companies but you are also part of the problem with this hobby and being ok with a straight up rip off of another company. Shame on you
What about hpi baja? Its better rovan baja its just a exclusive body but its now worth to buy something in 1500 dls than a rovan baja on 600 box
What about hpi baja? Its better rovan baja its just a exclusive body but its now worth to buy something in 1500 dls than a rovan baja on 600 box you Can actually lie
@@l4ncer2005 I'd still go with the hpi over rovan simply on principle and also due to the fact the quality is far better with hpi then rovan. Not to mention hpi is the god father of the class
Your missing the fact that he said he raced all season like that and it was fine, you don't HAVE TO upgrade anything(or very little)and everyone against clones acts like your not going to spend money on the losi, you absolutely will. And the solution to really put this to bed is buy a 30 deg north truck, many have made fact based arguments that they are even better than a losi and still 40-50% cheaper. They've made multiple improvements on the design!
@@romper4444 no you actually missed the point entirely and missed his message of the vid. In the vid he admitted to having to replace the motor a bunch of parts and what not to race. Losi and hpi are still and always will be the go to until I can afford a MCD
Rovan is just a copying semi crap quality brand good starting point if you want gas
Proof? I have both and the difference is negligible. 😂
@@jaybomb5022 quality of plastics, drivetrain, engines are full crap on rovan Zenoah is million times better, suspension. Losi is just much better seen both friend owns 2 rovans and i own a 5ive both agree 5ives are much better also the creator of 1:5 scale 😁
@@ygtx44 I'm an owner not just a speculator.
Those differences don't matter to someone unless you are constantly racing or bashing.
90% of owners aren't racing, making the losi much less worth it.
As he mentioned he beats losis with it, a million times better is beyond exaggerant and my 34cc stock KM beats the pricey 30.5cc zenoah all freaking day.
@@ygtx44 Again, I own my own not looking at my friend who may be biased lol. I work on my Losi just as much as my darn Rovan.
@@jaybomb5022 relaibility of rovan engines are welll known to be crap bud aint no one biased zenoah all day
$1000?????? I dont know about that
Are you saying what I paid for the Rovan? If you are I paid $1080CAD on Ali express.
Yup 1000Euro for Rovan lt450 and around 350 for ready to install że oah g320.
Łosi 5ive 1600euro.
But you get many alu parts with Rovan and you can spread that price in time.
Drive with stock crap engine for 6-12months then get zenoah. That's what I did.
And its also not like losi doesn't need upgrades. It's comes with plastic braces on chassis,.crappy servos and useless box exhaust.
So add like 400Euro for just those.
Anyway it's pointless to argue about which one is better.. obviously losi is better. But 99% can't afford it and even Rovan Lt is still very expensive for toy.
That needs to be constantly reminded to spoiled millionaire brats talking about łosi superiority, so they don't forget most people aren't freaking millionaires 😂