Statistical Mechanics Lecture 9

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  • (May 27, 2013) Leonard Susskind develops the Ising model of ferromagnetism to explain the mathematics of phase transitions. The one-dimensional Ising model does not exhibit phase transitions, but higher dimension models do.
    Originally presented in the Stanford Continuing Studies Program.
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  • @joabrosenberg2961
    @joabrosenberg2961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Rehearsing the external magnetic field model; 1-dimensional Ising model 14:00; Duality 42:00; 2 dimensions Ising model 48:00; Mean field approximation 57:00; Adding an external magnetic field 1:20:00;

  • @glendeloid9210
    @glendeloid9210 10 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    always fascinating. Also fun to see what he's going to eat each day.

  • @jaimelima2420
    @jaimelima2420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The connection with error correcting codes and information theory overall is amazing.

  • @alamri592
    @alamri592 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    prof Leonard Susskind is the best physicist Contributed to
    learn people physics in the world

  • @prasoonvishwakarma9538
    @prasoonvishwakarma9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question from my side, at 54:46, it is not necessary that in D dimension, the number of neighbor particles are going to be 2*D. In case of D=2, you can create a lattice of squares (where neighbors=4), or of triangles (where neighbors=6), or hexagons (where neighbors=2) etc. and thus the similar thing can be possible for the higher dimensions.
    Here the answer is going to vary as in the case of hexagon, (D=2, neighbor =2), one can't apply the error correction as there is going to be case of 50-50% probability too which is going to effect the fidelity.

    • @Animations-mi1mc
      @Animations-mi1mc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Ising model means a square/cubic lattice

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Animations-mi1mc no, thats the square lattice Ising model, you can simulate ising model on any graph structure, not even a regular tiling, just replace the (2d) with the number of neighbor, and the mean field approximation probably breaks down

    • @artqtip
      @artqtip 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Animations-mi1mc No it doesn't. It means a spherical.

  • @absojake
    @absojake 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Stanford for posting this!

  • @jimmyb998
    @jimmyb998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:13:30 perfect explanation, in response to a question that just came out of the blue...!

  • @oldcowbb
    @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not really the dimension, its more about the graph structure on who is interacting with who

  • @hasanunlu9002
    @hasanunlu9002 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At around 1:08:22 professor talks about showing the slope of graph of the left handside of the equation depending on the temperature. Since "Y" is directly depends on the temperature, temperature can not be taken as a coefficient of this term. Any change in temperature will change "Y" value too. I hope Professor will make it clear for us.

  • @aeroscience9834
    @aeroscience9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:04:27 I’m a bit confused here. So if I take a 1D lattice and say it couples equally to second nearest neighbors, then each spin has 4 neighbors. This is the same as the 2D Ising model (with first nearest neighbors). The 2D Ising model has a phase transition. But it seems to me that EVEN WITH second nearest neighbor couplings, the ‘telephone game’ argument works for the 1D lattice and so you should get No phase transition. As you go down the line it should decrease exponentially where the ‘probability of error in the message’ is just the probability that two neighbors in a row both happen to make a mistake.

    • @aeroscience9834
      @aeroscience9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same with that argument at 1:15:00. That can be applied to 1D 2nd nearest neighbors implying no phase transition

  • @jacobgreen1485
    @jacobgreen1485 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:32:31 bro "some distance epsilon" my guy is tweaking so hard

  • @qbtc
    @qbtc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ising solved the 1-D Ising model which showed no phase transition but mistakenly overgeneralized and postulated that higher dimensions would be the same. Onsager solved the much more complicated 2-D Ising model and showed phase transitions occur at dimensions higher than 1. Onsager won the Nobel prize in chemistry for his work but Ising's name is more known because the model is named after him. Would you rather be more well known but not win a Nobel or vice versa? I would take the former.

  • @kevinhevans
    @kevinhevans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 11:10, he says the average spin is tanh(Bj). I'm a bit unsure where he's getting that. Does anyone have an explanation? I would guess that the average spin should be 0.

    • @kevinhevans
      @kevinhevans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, nevermind! I understand it now.
      It's since E=\mu \beta \sigma = -j \sigma. He's just solving for \sigma! D'oh!

  • @TurtleTube123
    @TurtleTube123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    MY CAR MECHANIC !!!

  • @jacobgreen1485
    @jacobgreen1485 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:10:03 wouldn't it equal to 2(d)(J) divided by the boltzmann constant? because earlier he substituted T for 1/beta

    • @Anonymous-s7j1y
      @Anonymous-s7j1y 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coefficients become irrelevant factors when it comes to relation of variables in the form of equation. Coefficients are there to make the dimension look good.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

      we don't care about boltzmann constant, we are not working with human scale temperature

  • @npw4747
    @npw4747 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hi. i am asian guy in korea. i enjoy this lecture so much, so i have took this lecture 4 to 5 in a day. But it tangled with my oriental pharmacy lecture, and it makes me hard to understand. Do u have any good way to study online lecture.

  • @calebpoemoceah3087
    @calebpoemoceah3087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the probability that a standing wave does not have partical duality, do to the loss of velocity ?

  • @rupayansaha721
    @rupayansaha721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:26 He talks about correlation function.

  • @verystablegenius4720
    @verystablegenius4720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    J positive does NOT get rid of the symmetric solution at negative y ... I understand trying to simplify but symmetry of magnetization values at positive J is pretty fundamental. Lenny is being sloppy - but it doesn't take anything away for me. (Around when he is showing the graphical solution of the mean field approximation)

  • @samardev3725
    @samardev3725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I followed completely till the 8th lecture but having some issues having an intuitive understanding since lecture 9- Magnetism. Are there any prereqs i should cover? Stat Mech is the first lecture series I'm doing.

  • @frankjohnson123
    @frankjohnson123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At around 43:00 shouldn't the answer be (tanhBj)^n, not n-1?

    • @sayantansaha9047
      @sayantansaha9047 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are counting the bond between tow particle.... since one spin is inducing another spin ...and so on...

    • @alimehdizadeh2715
      @alimehdizadeh2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right

    • @alimehdizadeh2715
      @alimehdizadeh2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first derivation was for n spins, meaning that the first and the last were (n-1) links away but the one at 43:00 is for ith and (i+n)th spins which are also n links awayso the exponent should be n

    • @abdurrezzakefe5308
      @abdurrezzakefe5308 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeap, you are right! it is because he starts with sigma_i not sigma_i+1

  • @aeroscience9834
    @aeroscience9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:36:22 that’s not true. Just take T=0.5*T_c and look at the graph for B=0 then add a tiny B to shift the tanh curve ever so slightly. Then you still have 3 intersections

    • @verystablegenius4720
      @verystablegenius4720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cristhian Asallam Sanchez Ramirez Actually everyone who cares about physics and aren't here for looking to see what Lenny "eats" cares. Idiot.

    • @ptajimura
      @ptajimura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aeroscience, the graph is slightly misleading. In fact, only the right half of the σ-y plane is "physical", left half (negative y) just does not exist.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ptajimura what? negative y just mean spins down, thats the whole point of the second half of the lecture

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats exactly what i was thinking, they should have ask this instead of asking about the "epsilon" on the right hand side, does the tanh curve moves away fast enough for the straight line to not intersect it on the left hand side

  • @blanamaxima
    @blanamaxima 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do not follow the argument that the mu1 mu2... are independent. They have a common spin, so how can they be independent?

    • @shinesun2210
      @shinesun2210 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Robert Krutsch Then,how do you define your common spin?Here we just make a approximation,as Ising model is the approximation of Hersenberg model,unless you give the property of spin,or we just consider a simple situation,ignore the small effect temporarily,the most important thing is the result of Ising model approachs the result of the relevant experiment,it's enough for physicist,we still try to approach the experimental results,but before we doubt it,let's learn it step by step,these are just the lessons for high undergraduates.

    • @anushagopalan
      @anushagopalan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have the same doubt, because if one of the mu's changes, then either the one before it or after it must change as well, right?

    • @blanamaxima
      @blanamaxima 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @dewieburne220
      @dewieburne220 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is because mu2 is does not depend on whether sigma2 is up or down - mu2 is simply expressing the relationship between sigma2 and sigma3, and does not care whether this relationship would be from sigma2 = down to sigma3 = down, or sigma2 = up to sigma3 = up. (1*1 == -1*-1 == 1)

    • @ДімаБогданов-ъ8ш
      @ДімаБогданов-ъ8ш 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if you know sigma_2 you can't predict the value of mu_2, because it depends on both sigma_2 and sigma_3, and sigma_3 can be +1 or -1 with equal probabilities, so mu_2 can be +1 or -1 with equal probabilities even if you know sigma_2 (and you don't, actually).

  • @oldcowbb
    @oldcowbb หลายเดือนก่อน

    the mean field approximation seems really.. unsatisfying

  • @Goldslate73
    @Goldslate73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:34
    That's what she said.

  • @catafest
    @catafest 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi. Can somebody told me how can I write a email to this teacher? I don't know him and I want to write something.

    • @idk-py3qm
      @idk-py3qm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      susskind@stanford.edu

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:50 - Actually it's 0.9801, not 0.981. We know 100*100 is 10000,. We subtract a row of 100 and a column of 100, but then we have to put one back, so 99^2 is 9801.

  • @元恒尾﨑
    @元恒尾﨑 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    早くセクシー男優になって神でないことを証明したいです。

  • @gizmo9234
    @gizmo9234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    By the way, what happens if you change the sign on B, I.e if you shift the curve to thr RIGHT?

    • @gulgaffel
      @gulgaffel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      get the same thing but intersections are on the negative instead of the positive. ie. the orientation will just be the same but opposite sign.

  • @lilagordon5673
    @lilagordon5673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi i'm lila

  • @simonb.979
    @simonb.979 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    god these students are annoying

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:32:00 - This bit is ridiculous; that one student is just to aggressive and pushy. It shows extremely low respect for his peers; this stuff should be taken to office hours.

    • @aeroscience9834
      @aeroscience9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a continuing education class, they aren’t university student. They are encouraged to ask questions

    • @KipIngram
      @KipIngram 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aeroscience9834 Well, I think students in normal university classes should be encouraged to ask questions too; that's not what I'm taking note of. It's just that when one student asks a question, that's great for him, but it reduces the total amount of instruction time for all of the others. When the questions are dominated by one person, it feels like he's depriving the remainder of the class of some of the benefit they could have received, because he's having trouble keeping up. I still think he should get to have his questions answered, but at some point it feels like it would be more appropriate to do so outside of lecture time.
      It's not at all the basic issue of questions - it's the extent and magnitude.

  • @남준황-q1m
    @남준황-q1m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    화^^

  • @남준황-q1m
    @남준황-q1m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fly

  • @남준황-q1m
    @남준황-q1m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    아빠 잘라고 들어왔어

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good god - this class has one of those students that doesn't have any respect for the other students. GO TO OFFICE HOURS - don't just assume that EVERYONE ELSE needs to hear your questions asked an answered. His inability to keep up is costing everyone else learning progress. So selfish.

    • @pranayvenkatesh8815
      @pranayvenkatesh8815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is continuing studies, they're not college students.

    • @myshakhanmj1338
      @myshakhanmj1338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      asking questions is not disrespecting other students. It helps to clear up the concept :).