So Banks is related to McClellan.....Where McClellan is overly defensive, Banks is brainlessly aggressive. Yolo this unit here, that unit there. Crawford is the MVP of this battle. His unit did work.
Wow, Warhawk!!! This is your best yet. I'm fairly familiar with Cedar Mountain (and have been fortunate enough to travel to the field myself), but your narrative has given me new perspective on the timeline of the battle!!! Thank you SO MUCH for this new vid!!!!
Story from the 28th NY of Crawford's brigade: As they retreated under fire from the Stonewall Brigade back through the wheatfield, Col. Dudley Donnelly of the 28th was mortally wounded and captured by a rebel sergeant. As he was being started to the rear, the rebel attempted to capture a 5th CT soldier who was wounded in the leg and could not walk. Frustrated, the rebel left the man. As Col. Donnelly was moving to the rear, he felt a minie ball fly past his head and kill the rebel sergeant. Turning around, he saw that wounded Connecticut man on the ground, his gun raised after firing, before he fell dead from his injury. Spotting their colonel behind them, several men of the 28th NY braved the fire to run back for him and helped him off the field. He would die soon after from his wound, but showed immense gratitude to have been saved by his men and that Connecticut soldier.
These are excellent videos! I have played this scenario hundreds of times in Take Command:Second Manasas. It was a joy to see your maps and troops positions the same as the video game. I so enjoy your channel and salute you for your good work!!!!
Great game, although definitely showing it's age these days. Oddly, it runs more stable on my modern OS than their later SOW:Gettysburg game which occasionally crashes on me.
Excellent video on one of the more fascinating "little" battles of the War. Cedar Mountain has always been one of the most interesting battles, for me. Although Banks was driven from the field, his Yankees hit the Southerners harder than they had yet been hit, up till then. A bit of a foreshadowing for the couple of days of intense assaults Jackson's Corps would fight off during Second Manassas.
You're doing an excellent and thorough job of presenting the grueling, hard-fought nature of the War Between the States, battle by battle. I truly hope you are able to see the project through to completion! There are so many fascinating clashes, in 1863 & '64 in particular, which I would love to see played out in your production-style. The stages of the Siege of Petersburg, with incidents like the Battle of the Crater, and a much less-famous cavalry battle in N. Mississippi at Brice's Crossroads (which, I believe, is still studied at the US Army's Command & General Staff College), are just a couple of examples.
Thanks Tremaine! Hopefully we are doing all the battles justice with the videos. Ofc we could be getting through the war a lot faster if we focused more on the larger, more popular battles, but hey animating the smaller ones are fun too!
My great great great uncle Sergeant Thomas McCracken of the 16th North Carolina Infantry Penders Brigade Hills Light Division fought at Cedar Mountain Thanks for all your great programs
Another great episode! 👍 this is the first episode I've heard the ancestor's regiment (1st PA Calvary) called out, kinda sad to hear how they were used, war is hell
The Federals missed a major opportunity to wipe out the Stonewall brigade and maybe capture Jackson on the flank if it wasn't for mismanagement of the Federal brigades.
Wow what an excellent video. I've not heard about Crawford's charge but it seems to be one of the underrated offensive actions in the war, although it was untimately fruitless
So this is interesting. Banks arguably bungles this confrontation on a tactical level, but on the other hand it‘s not his battle to lose and it‘s Jackson who underperforms by failing to destroy an inferior force. Tactically Jackson‘s performance is as much of a mess as Banks‘. More to the point strategically Banks did very well. His risky offensive now seems prescient, as he has forced a superior force into a more or less even engagement and managed to disengage after allowing Pope to occupy with the Bulk of his force the ground he Banks supposed to hold for him.
i had a great grand uncle Christopher Hussey in the 27th Va (stonewall brigade), I thought there was an incident at Cedar Mountain where the 27th got outflanked and fled from the field... ?? I thought it was the 27th that Jackson tried to rally as they were fleeing the field in danger of being over taken. In your account here the 27th dont seem to have been engaged much at all and to have been out of direct danger..
@@WarhawkYT From the History of the 27th Va infantry by Reidenbaugh I read 'At the start of the engagement the 27th Va was stationed on the far right of the stonewall brigade battle line. to its right were the regiments of Thomas S Garnett's Brigade, on its left the 33rd Va. Late in the afternoon the Stonewall brigade received orders to advance. The 27th proceeded slowly through a dense forest, with heavy undergrowth of brush and much fallen timber, to the fence dividing the woodland from a cleared field. As a result of the forestation the enemy was not discovered until it fired on the regiment. Captain Charles Haynes eordered his men to advance to the fence and return the fire. This was done, Haynes reported, and was kept up for some time and with such effect that two regiments of the enemy, which immediately confronted us, commenced falling back rapidly and in much disorder.' As the Yankees retreated Haynes discovered that the regiment that had been supporting the 27th on the right had been driven back 'and the enemy were rapidly advancing on our right, cross firing us and endevouring to get in our rear'. The regiment broke under the new pressure. In fragmented detachments the men continued to fight the remainder of the day. Some retreated about 150 yards until they were met by Laurence OB, Branches brigade of A.P. Hill's division. Branche mistook the 27th for the whole Stonewall brigade. In that erroneous impression, the North Carolinian wrote in his diary:'I had not gone 100 yards through the woods before we met the celebrated Stonewall brigade, utterly routed and fleeing as fast as they could run. So.... the brigades right flank, mostly the 27th regiment broke and retreated or fled, but fought on later in the day once Branch had come up in Support. So the 27th fled back into the Woods once they were about to be flanked.. (I'm not sure which Union regiment(s) were about to flank them though.) But this was one of very few times that the 27th fled or retreated in battle.
General Bayard’s Cavalry managed to scout Jackson, but his reports were lackluster at best, woefully useless at worst. The Cavalry rearguard did their best, but with only a few companies of cavalry, there is only so much that could be done.
would you say it was an oversight by Jackson, or one of the division commanders to ensure the Stone Wall Brigade was in a better position? I know Winder gets killed and Taliaferro is quickly brought up and that definitely created a scenario to exploit it.
My Great Great Great uncle Sergeant Thomas McCracken of the 16th North Carolina Infantry Regiment part of Hills Light Division fought at Cedar Mountain
I really love your videos; they are full of so much detail!! One constructive feedback item I have for you is, I wish you would show the Confederate battle flag i.e. the southern cross when representing the Confederate forces. This is the flag that most units used and the one that the men fought and died following into battle. Thanks for making civil war battles come to life and helping us understand how the battles unfolded. Keep up the great work!
The end of the video seemed rushed. A ton of units we hadn't seen showed up on the left flank. Then we jump to three Confederate units rolling up the right flank, which would have been behind the main Union lines we saw earlier. We never find out what happened to those lines.
I agree the ending was a little rushed, I was animating whatever the writer mentioned. However, every unit is shown moving onto the field at one point or another. Ewells units were mentioned right before the fighting started at 4:28. They are not seen again until the point you are talking about as they did a long flank around the union left. That is when they actually engage the enemy for the first time. The units on the union right flank are shown at 20:15. I would recommend watching it again.
Oddly enough, I get the feeling Jackson was better on the offensive than the defensive; between this and certain previous & later actions, he seemed to have an uncanny ability to have massive gaps in his lines. I agree with Early on one thing: "Stonewall" is a terrible nickname for Jackson.
Jackson had one particular flaw, that he didn’t really talk about his plans with his subordinates, and always expected their complete obedience despite not knowing at all what Jackson was thinking. You can see this clearly when A.P Hill arrives on the field, later than Jackson had wanted to.
@@WarhawkYT Yeah, from all accounts Banks was a incompetent crook. "Commissary Banks" was his niskname early in the war because he supplied Jackson with every need and want (captured wagons). Later in New Orleans the name stuck, becuase he stole everything that was not nailed down and sold it on his own black market.
He was a dufuss. Once he came up against a competent commander, he was out of his depth. The orders he issued were asinine at best. Cheers from Tennessee.
Pope also regularly had subordinates who ignored his orders when it came to action. The mix of the warring egos in his command structure, newly formed army pains, and his own pompous demeanor shot that army in the foot from the start. I'd venture he was more capable than many Union generals, but not so good at keeping his subordinates unified in the effort.
@@NefariousKoel A lot of generals are decent right up to contact with the enemy. That's when Pope stumbled. At Island #10, he had a plum fall into his lap. Good luck on his part, but after that he couldn't get out of his own way. Yes, Fitz-Porter was a McClellan man, but Porter had a hint Pope had his head up his own backside. Once Jackson revealed himself at Groveton, Pope didn't have a clue as to the intentions of Jackson. He consistently ignored intell and he made fanciful decisions that assumed the Confederates would do as he wanted them to do. Funny thing though, after Virginia, he wasn't even allowed to be rat catcher in some backwater frontier fort. Might be a reflection on how good he really was. Most Army and Corps commanders had subordinates that were either incompetent or were plain useless. Grant in 1864 had Banks in Louisiana. (Winner, winner, chicken dinner) Butler on the James and Burnside in Tennessee. Burnside was the only one to not screw up his part in the 1864 campaign, mainly because he was under Sherman who promptly removed him. The other two failed miserably. Head strong officers were a thing without radio communication. Cheers.
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Have to say, I really did love this episode!! Love the added visuals and General Jackson waving his jammed saber!!!
Thanks GC!
Thanks!
Greatest Civil War animated channel on TH-cam. Cheers from Tennessee
Thanks Paul!
i love it wish there were more channels that did civil war battles like this
then that wouldnt make us unique
So Banks is related to McClellan.....Where McClellan is overly defensive, Banks is brainlessly aggressive. Yolo this unit here, that unit there.
Crawford is the MVP of this battle. His unit did work.
Bank's must have come from the mom's side of the family lol
Wow, Warhawk!!! This is your best yet. I'm fairly familiar with Cedar Mountain (and have been fortunate enough to travel to the field myself), but your narrative has given me new perspective on the timeline of the battle!!! Thank you SO MUCH for this new vid!!!!
Thanks Stiglr!
Story from the 28th NY of Crawford's brigade: As they retreated under fire from the Stonewall Brigade back through the wheatfield, Col. Dudley Donnelly of the 28th was mortally wounded and captured by a rebel sergeant. As he was being started to the rear, the rebel attempted to capture a 5th CT soldier who was wounded in the leg and could not walk. Frustrated, the rebel left the man.
As Col. Donnelly was moving to the rear, he felt a minie ball fly past his head and kill the rebel sergeant. Turning around, he saw that wounded Connecticut man on the ground, his gun raised after firing, before he fell dead from his injury.
Spotting their colonel behind them, several men of the 28th NY braved the fire to run back for him and helped him off the field. He would die soon after from his wound, but showed immense gratitude to have been saved by his men and that Connecticut soldier.
Man even the Vatican fought
b-b-b-but the Vatican recognized the confederacy
A surprise to be sure
ikr?
@@WarhawkYT I thought there was an over 1000 year old Vatican law that the Pope was supposed to excommunicate Christians that owned Christian slaves.
*The Papal States
These are excellent videos! I have played this scenario hundreds of times in Take Command:Second Manasas. It was a joy to see your maps and troops positions the same as the video game. I so enjoy your channel and salute you for your good work!!!!
Great game, although definitely showing it's age these days. Oddly, it runs more stable on my modern OS than their later SOW:Gettysburg game which occasionally crashes on me.
Excellent video on one of the more fascinating "little" battles of the War. Cedar Mountain has always been one of the most interesting battles, for me. Although Banks was driven from the field, his Yankees hit the Southerners harder than they had yet been hit, up till then.
A bit of a foreshadowing for the couple of days of intense assaults Jackson's Corps would fight off during Second Manassas.
You're doing an excellent and thorough job of presenting the grueling, hard-fought nature of the War Between the States, battle by battle. I truly hope you are able to see the project through to completion! There are so many fascinating clashes, in 1863 & '64 in particular, which I would love to see played out in your production-style. The stages of the Siege of Petersburg, with incidents like the Battle of the Crater, and a much less-famous cavalry battle in N. Mississippi at Brice's Crossroads (which, I believe, is still studied at the US Army's Command & General Staff College), are just a couple of examples.
Thanks Tremaine! Hopefully we are doing all the battles justice with the videos. Ofc we could be getting through the war a lot faster if we focused more on the larger, more popular battles, but hey animating the smaller ones are fun too!
Looking forward to this. glad I caught it right as its about to premiere!
Thats fantastic!
My great great great uncle Sergeant Thomas McCracken of the 16th North Carolina Infantry Penders Brigade Hills Light Division fought at Cedar Mountain Thanks for all your great programs
Another great episode! 👍 this is the first episode I've heard the ancestor's regiment (1st PA Calvary) called out, kinda sad to hear how they were used, war is hell
Thanks Daniel, glad to that we mentioned your ancestor's unit!
I would just like to say the animation and commentary has improved tenfold! keep up the great work Warhawk
Glad to hear that, thanks George!
Coming back to this video while I'm here at the battlefield for more information this is great!
That was a pretty incredible turnaround. Great video.
Hey Warhawk crew!! Happy Friday y'all and thanks for all the awesome content as always! Have a good weekend catch you guys soon!
Happy Friday Derek and thanks man!
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I was about to go to sleep then I saw that I missed this drop! Awesome night cap!
Thanks Red!
this channel is so great. my 2x great grandad was hurt in this battle fighting with the 49th GA. He was 19.
Thanks Joe, thats cool to hear!
Salute from Alabama to your Confederate ancestor
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Welcome brother, thanks!
Crawford’s push was absolutely insane and the battle should have been a Union victory right there. Of course the Union has to choke in the end.
Yeah, the lack of exploitative follow-up, later mixed with greater Confederate reinforcements arriving, reversed that impressive push.
Banks & Pope... Crawford was doomed and screwed out of a hell of a day of fighting from him and his troops.
The Federals missed a major opportunity to wipe out the Stonewall brigade and maybe capture Jackson on the flank if it wasn't for mismanagement of the Federal brigades.
Wow what an excellent video. I've not heard about Crawford's charge but it seems to be one of the underrated offensive actions in the war, although it was untimately fruitless
Now you have, youre welcome!
So this is interesting. Banks arguably bungles this confrontation on a tactical level, but on the other hand it‘s not his battle to lose and it‘s Jackson who underperforms by failing to destroy an inferior force. Tactically Jackson‘s performance is as much of a mess as Banks‘.
More to the point strategically Banks did very well. His risky offensive now seems prescient, as he has forced a superior force into a more or less even engagement and managed to disengage after allowing Pope to occupy with the Bulk of his force the ground he Banks supposed to hold for him.
i had a great grand uncle Christopher Hussey in the 27th Va (stonewall brigade), I thought there was an incident at Cedar Mountain where the 27th got outflanked and fled from the field... ?? I thought it was the 27th that Jackson tried to rally as they were fleeing the field in danger of being over taken. In your account here the 27th dont seem to have been engaged much at all and to have been out of direct danger..
When I was animating this battle, I noticed that the 27th fled but not sure by what
@@WarhawkYT From the History of the 27th Va infantry by Reidenbaugh I read 'At the start of the engagement the 27th Va was stationed on the far right of the stonewall brigade battle line. to its right were the regiments of Thomas S Garnett's Brigade, on its left the 33rd Va.
Late in the afternoon the Stonewall brigade received orders to advance. The 27th proceeded slowly through a dense forest, with heavy undergrowth of brush and much fallen timber, to the fence dividing the woodland from a cleared field. As a result of the forestation the enemy was not discovered until it fired on the regiment. Captain Charles Haynes eordered his men to advance to the fence and return the fire. This was done, Haynes reported, and was kept up for some time and with such effect that two regiments of the enemy, which immediately confronted us, commenced falling back rapidly and in much disorder.'
As the Yankees retreated Haynes discovered that the regiment that had been supporting the 27th on the right had been driven back 'and the enemy were rapidly advancing on our right, cross firing us and endevouring to get in our rear'.
The regiment broke under the new pressure. In fragmented detachments the men continued to fight the remainder of the day. Some retreated about 150 yards until they were met by Laurence OB, Branches brigade of A.P. Hill's division. Branche mistook the 27th for the whole Stonewall brigade. In that erroneous impression, the North Carolinian wrote in his diary:'I had not gone 100 yards through the woods before we met the celebrated Stonewall brigade, utterly routed and fleeing as fast as they could run.
So.... the brigades right flank, mostly the 27th regiment broke and retreated or fled, but fought on later in the day once Branch had come up in Support. So the 27th fled back into the Woods once they were about to be flanked.. (I'm not sure which Union regiment(s) were about to flank them though.) But this was one of very few times that the 27th fled or retreated in battle.
Battleship on a lake in place of a second line of fort (in that portion of [Norway])?
General Bayard’s Cavalry managed to scout Jackson, but his reports were lackluster at best, woefully useless at worst. The Cavalry rearguard did their best, but with only a few companies of cavalry, there is only so much that could be done.
such is yankee cavalry early in the war
Branch's North Carolina brigade bails out Jackson- later to be Lane's and containing the 18th NC. Irony be thy game.
foreshadowing????
If I were Jackson Id be a little leary of the 18th NC... just a hunch :)
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would you say it was an oversight by Jackson, or one of the division commanders to ensure the Stone Wall Brigade was in a better position? I know Winder gets killed and Taliaferro is quickly brought up and that definitely created a scenario to exploit it.
My Great Great Great uncle Sergeant Thomas McCracken of the 16th North Carolina Infantry Regiment part of Hills Light Division fought at Cedar Mountain
I really love your videos; they are full of so much detail!! One constructive feedback item I have for you is, I wish you would show the Confederate battle flag i.e. the southern cross when representing the Confederate forces. This is the flag that most units used and the one that the men fought and died following into battle. Thanks for making civil war battles come to life and helping us understand how the battles unfolded. Keep up the great work!
Soldier skulls? Salt sliders? What else have they done?
What exactly was Banks plan here? There doesn’t seem to be any cohesive action by anyone.
A spoiling attack to stop jackson
The end of the video seemed rushed. A ton of units we hadn't seen showed up on the left flank. Then we jump to three Confederate units rolling up the right flank, which would have been behind the main Union lines we saw earlier. We never find out what happened to those lines.
I agree the ending was a little rushed, I was animating whatever the writer mentioned. However, every unit is shown moving onto the field at one point or another. Ewells units were mentioned right before the fighting started at 4:28. They are not seen again until the point you are talking about as they did a long flank around the union left. That is when they actually engage the enemy for the first time. The units on the union right flank are shown at 20:15. I would recommend watching it again.
Oddly enough, I get the feeling Jackson was better on the offensive than the defensive; between this and certain previous & later actions, he seemed to have an uncanny ability to have massive gaps in his lines.
I agree with Early on one thing: "Stonewall" is a terrible nickname for Jackson.
Look, there stands Longstreet like a stonewall, rally behind the georgians!
Edging isnt always used as it is in the [story] of ‘Dont Ask, Dont Tell.’
Im an [expert], Ive seen ‘Dont Ask, Dont Tell’ bombings.
Rip to division commander Winder one of the best division commander in the CSA
You mean Ewell?
How does Jackson, a strict disciplinarian, allow how sword to rust shut into his scabbard?
Because he whipped his men with his bible, not his sword
20 k dude can't wait till 100k
Same here thh
Is donut operator the Voiceover guy?!
Who’s that?
@@WarhawkYT :(
Jackson had one particular flaw, that he didn’t really talk about his plans with his subordinates, and always expected their complete obedience despite not knowing at all what Jackson was thinking. You can see this clearly when A.P Hill arrives on the field, later than Jackson had wanted to.
Still a genius tho
Jackson waited last minute to explain his plans because he didn't want them possibly leaked to the enemy.
@@Lion718 what? lol
Let's go Crawford!
!!!
Indeed! It’s a shame Banks couldn’t capitalize on Crawford’s success.
An officer hit by cannon? The [doctor] might not administer the instaclot knowing what else would have to happen to make that guy look dumb.
Outstanding!
Thanks Alan!
Always struck by the irony of Jackson being so involved in the battles and remaining untouched only to be shot in a 'friendly fire' incident.
yeah Hilary definitely went back in time and got him
do you make all these yourself?
Besides the pictures and maps, yes
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That was another blundering defeat the almost underwent. Good thing Thomas Stonewall managed to turn the tide.
I bet Banks was relieved he was transfered to LA and got away from Jackson, Jackson had his number.
he might be but Jackson's former officers held his number, Richard Taylor and John Walker 👀
Banks was probably more relieved he could deal in cotton
@@therabbitify Yeah, from all accounts he was a low life crook. I heard he was a politician before the war, so that explains that.
@@WarhawkYT Yeah, from all accounts Banks was a incompetent crook. "Commissary Banks" was his niskname early in the war because he supplied Jackson with every need and want (captured wagons). Later in New Orleans the name stuck, becuase he stole everything that was not nailed down and sold it on his own black market.
Dude got smoked in LA by Jackson's homie too. Dude was unfit for command.
something Luther could have only dreamed of
Love the video as always...and I hate Banks even more.
Thanks Soul! Glad to see you around!
@@WarhawkYT You keep making beautiful civil war content like this, I'll be around! :)
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How many ads can we put in a video! I tried to like it but the ads killed me. Sure it’s a great video.
I only put 1 ad in, everything other one was TH-cam
I would have burned the wheat field...
hold your horses Sherman...
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Fr, imagine being traitors to your own people too
You sound a little hoarse this episode, are you feeling ill?
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John Pope was a good general,but not a great one.
He was a dufuss. Once he came up against a competent commander, he was out of his depth. The orders he issued were asinine at best. Cheers from Tennessee.
@@Hillbilly001 Because he's better under someone like Grant or Buell but not as a sole commander.
Pope also regularly had subordinates who ignored his orders when it came to action. The mix of the warring egos in his command structure, newly formed army pains, and his own pompous demeanor shot that army in the foot from the start. I'd venture he was more capable than many Union generals, but not so good at keeping his subordinates unified in the effort.
@@NefariousKoel You mean Nathaniel P. Banks?
@@NefariousKoel A lot of generals are decent right up to contact with the enemy. That's when Pope stumbled. At Island #10, he had a plum fall into his lap. Good luck on his part, but after that he couldn't get out of his own way. Yes, Fitz-Porter was a McClellan man, but Porter had a hint Pope had his head up his own backside. Once Jackson revealed himself at Groveton, Pope didn't have a clue as to the intentions of Jackson. He consistently ignored intell and he made fanciful decisions that assumed the Confederates would do as he wanted them to do. Funny thing though, after Virginia, he wasn't even allowed to be rat catcher in some backwater frontier fort. Might be a reflection on how good he really was. Most Army and Corps commanders had subordinates that were either incompetent or were plain useless. Grant in 1864 had Banks in Louisiana. (Winner, winner, chicken dinner) Butler on the James and Burnside in Tennessee. Burnside was the only one to not screw up his part in the 1864 campaign, mainly because he was under Sherman who promptly removed him. The other two failed miserably. Head strong officers were a thing without radio communication. Cheers.