Great video once again 👊!!! These bench vids are loaded with useful info for the RC masses. Just had to do wire swaps with 2 new motor ESC combos. PS, digging the 4092 1480kv Hobbystar. Just had to gear up a bit, but torque is great paired with the Hexfly Hex6 8s version, running 6s. 🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Thank you for your video. It helped me understand how to make my two motors go in opposite directions. I do have a question, though. I understand regular two wire power, but what is the third wire for?
I Love Your Videos Buddy ❤ I have a new castle brushless esc but so want to run my old brushed motor since my 7 year old drives it too. Can you tell me which of the 3esc wires I connect to my old brushed motor Please 🙏 😇😎🌄
I have a 250w 24v dc motor for an ebike it has 3 contacts , how do I wire it to a motor controller that has 3 main wires and then 5 small wires 3 of which are hall sensors ?
Hard to say as we are not familiar with ebike controllers, but on most RC ESC's you can simply just not connect the sensor wires and the motor will stull run just fine. The controller may require a sensor connection, but it's worth trying just connecting the 3 main wires.
when i swap my wires round on my sensorless brushless motor i switch my thottle from normal to reverse so the car drives forward and it is so much more powerful, if i put the wires to normal the csr is slower . .does anyone know why?, cheers
Hey Simon, the throttle channel on some radios is "backward" from other radios. We often get e-mails from a customer with this issue, they note that their care goes much quicker in reverse than forwards. The solution is to do exactly as you did, or to reverse the throttle channel on your radio and re-calibrate.
@@lindsayk41 In a non-sensored setup, the motor wires do not have a specific orientation. Running a sensored motor and ESC would require the A to A, B to B, C to C orientation in order to function properly.
Hi there! I'm fairly new to RC. I bought a Kyosho Optima Mid and a Kyosho Le Mans 240S brushless motor to go with it. I don't know which type of ESC I should buy to match the motor. Can I use a brushed ESC or does it have to be brushless also? And if you could suggest a brand and model of ESC that I should buy. Thanks a bunch for helping me out!
Definitely a brushless ESC. If you're just looking to get up and running or you want something a little more on the competitive side, check these out: www.rcjuice.com/motor-esc/car-esc-s/1-12-1-10-short-course-esc-s/hobbystar-60a-brushless-sensored-esc.html www.rcjuice.com/motor-esc/car-esc-s/1-12-1-10-short-course-esc-s/toro-ts120-aluminum-race-sensored-esc-blue.html
Thank you for your input. We cover this in the first minute of the video. If you have a non-sensored motor/esc, orientation of the wires does not matter. If the motor spins in the opposite direction of what you want, simply swap any two wires and it will rotate in the opposite direction.
It makes no difference on a non-sensored motor, just connect them in any order and if the motor is running in the wrong direction for you then simply reverse ANY 2 wires and it will change direction. There is no wrong way to connect them on a sensorless unit.
Ha....My motor has three black wires and so does the ESC. I'm assuming the middle wire of each go together, then I can connect the others and play around with finding the right direction and swap around if required...correct?
Correct, the order makes no difference at all unless it's spinning in the wrong direction for your application. Other than the direction, it's impossible to connect them in any "wrong" order on a sensorless motor.
thank you. I was little scared while plugging my motor to other esc without knowledge of wire color... I saw "little smoke" and then i disconnected all of wires real quick... maybe iit wasnt smoke from wiring, only dust?'
I am new to the brushless motor hobby. I was told that I should be careful about how long the cables are between the battery and esc and the esc to the motor. Is there any kind of formula for that? I see when I bought the motor that the directions said it was OK to shorten the cables on it. What is the rule on that? What is your thought on capacitor packs? Thank you in advance, Bill
We'd need to see that controller, but that doesn't sound like it's going to work. Brushless motors are essentially AC motors (not that cut and dry but for simplification purposes) so that will likely not work.
I just wanted to add and I'm pretty sure you know to maybe forgot to mention Center wires on both the motor and ESC always be connected the yellow wire sometimes not always the yellow wire but whatever the center wire is on both the motor and ESC should always be hooked up and then like you showed you can either have it Go counterclockwise or clockwise by switching the outside to wires which would be a and b. I don't know hopefully that helps also great video
Hello, is it possible to install a coreless motor instead of brushless on this quadcopter board? Because the motor without a core has two output wires, but the motor of this quadcopter has four wires
I got a flytec 2011-5, want to upgrade with a water jet. Can I use the original controller after that? Or... what I need if already have the motor and the pump?
What are these cables called? I’ve been searching but can’t find anywhere. My Esc to motor cable snapped on Erevo 2.0 please help me find the name of these holed connectors
I have this bldc fan motor that has ( white, blue, yellow, red) from left to right. What are these wires and if I can hook up couple of them to a souce of DC to test it to see if this thing is any good which two wires should I hook my power to? I am assuming the other two wires, one maybe tachometer and the other probably pulse modulation. Should I be able to read some resistance between whatever wires or how does that work? Or should there be resistance between the two wires that go to power source. I hooked up the white and the blue to DC power and the fan did not run and I noticed current was really kicking in with hardly any voltage applied. So I disconnected. This thing goes on the evaporator of my fridge. I think this motor is shot. Shouldn't the fan blades spin loose and free without any quick stopping? When I hook up all the wires together or any two wires, the fan blade spin does not show any change? It says 9.75 volts DC on it.
so, I'm trying to run a sensor less motor with a controller that has no hall sensor wires to the motor. It only has the rx tx and blue wires for the display. It's all hooked up and nothing. Should I try attaching the blue "display " wire to the blue phase wire?
Not at all, on a non-sensored motor the 3 wires can go in any order, if it's spinning in the opposite direction of what you need simply swap ANY 2 wires and it will reverse the rotation but any wire can go to any lead. On a sensored motor you must connect A-A, B-B and C-C if the sensor harness is connected, if you do not hook up the wires in order on a sensored motor it will not operate correctly.
I have the surpass hobby brushless motor 2030 and the esc is the traxxas vxl3m. And the motor wires are not colored and I saw it was going reverse, so i flipped it. And sudden the motor got so hot when its not being driven yet and the battery is a 2s lipo 2000mah and is the cause of it?
There are no set rules for this, it depends on the application but for most 1/10 and 1/8 motors 12AWG wire is sufficient, 10AWG for high-power 1/8 applications and 8AWG for 1/5 setups.
BUT with sensor type motors: is it possible to take a motor with sensors and hook it up to an ECS (meant for a sensor type motor) and hook it up to make it work? In general are all sensor type ECS's and all sensor type brushless motors compatible? Now, I've said that two ways. I want to have a discussion about how easy it is to work with (hook up) brushless motors. ON the ECS, what do each of those three wires go to on the motor (purpose)? That was a messy question - hopefully you can decipher the meaning of the issues at hand here.
i was taking apart my rc car and putting it back together because I needed to remount the taped parts. I misplaced the a and c wire with each other and tried to run it a couple of times (no more than 4) before I realised the issue. I switched them back. Could this have damaged my motor or esc? I have a sensored brushless motor btw
If it is a non-sensored motor, you can simply swap any 2 wires and it will reverse the rotation. If it's a sensored motor then the 3 wires do have to be connected in the proper A-B-C order and you must reverse the rotation via ESC programming.
I have a brushless motor with 2 big wire's red and black and 3 tiny wire's Need to reverse the motor operation. How? Red and black go to circuit board with a relay three tiny wire's to speed control
@@johngilbert5352 Sorry, but we would have to get our hands on that to see how it's all wired up. Since it's not an RC we are just not familiar with them offhand.
Lag is generally a result of the ESC setup and cannot be changed, the best you can usually do is to address any mechanical freeplay to minimize the effects of motor lag.
Definitely not guaranteed. In general, you'll catch it right away due to the symptoms you noted and can switch with no adverse affect. Prolonged use can damage so it's advised to fix ASAP.
HI, GREAT VIDEO, THANKS. CAN A 500 WATT, BRUSHLESS MOTOR BE HOOKED STRAIGHT TO A BATTERY WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMPONENT? DOES A 500 WATT BRUSHLESS MOTOR HAVE TO BE HOOKED UP TO A CONTROLER? THANK YOU.
Must have a comtroller because they switch alternatly to make it run because without brushed moving on the armeture to switch it manual by motor rotation it's done using the controller.
I have only two wire coming inside my house..... i have a problem in connection. And my baterry have only two outputs... i am confuse i cannot anymore...
All 3 wires are motor power, simply connect all 3 wires in any order and if it's spinning in the opposite direction that you want, then just swap around any of the 2 wires and it will reverse direction. There are no "signal" wires on these motors, some car motors are sensored and do have a separate harness for the sensor connection, but of the 3 main wires all are just phase wires and on a non-sensored motor like an aircraft motor, the wire order does not matter other than for direction of rotation.
Short and concise, this is exactly what I needed as I’m new to the hobby and my esc and motor came completely unlabeled
Great video once again 👊!!! These bench vids are loaded with useful info for the RC masses. Just had to do wire swaps with 2 new motor ESC combos. PS, digging the 4092 1480kv Hobbystar. Just had to gear up a bit, but torque is great paired with the Hexfly Hex6 8s version, running 6s. 🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
AWESOME, YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I WAS STARTING TO THINK I GOT RIPPED OFF LOL.
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Great video but I don't understand what is a sensored motor as opposed to a non sensored motor? Thx
Thank you for your video. It helped me understand how to make my two motors go in opposite directions. I do have a question, though. I understand regular two wire power, but what is the third wire for?
Brushless motors have 3 phases, so the wires are for each phase it's not like a brushed motor where you only have positive and negative.
A vid on sensored motor wiring would be good. Those are where headaches start
Ty
Sir, I have a motor fly with blue red and black. Currently the motor is rotating inverted. Which color can I changed to fix that ? Thank you so much
I Love Your Videos Buddy ❤ I have a new castle brushless esc but so want to run my old brushed motor since my 7 year old drives it too. Can you tell me which of the 3esc wires I connect to my old brushed motor Please 🙏 😇😎🌄
many thanks
Perfect
there r 3 wires coming out from the motor. which one is + and which one is -?
They are three phase ac motors. There is no positive and negative. Check out videos on how brushless, 3 phase motors work.
Why does the motor connectors look different the esc
got to love 3 phase.
Sir can we use esc to other 12v battery
Beautiful
On sensored, what is every wire of the sensor cable? Maybe we can swap those leads to match the direction on a reversed sensored...Please help :P
The wires are connected to the hall sensors inside the motor on the sensor board, these cannot be reversed or chagned.
@@RCJuice I made it..it can be done, i ll upload a video to explain..!
I have a 250w 24v dc motor for an ebike it has 3 contacts , how do I wire it to a motor controller that has 3 main wires and then 5 small wires 3 of which are hall sensors ?
Hard to say as we are not familiar with ebike controllers, but on most RC ESC's you can simply just not connect the sensor wires and the motor will stull run just fine. The controller may require a sensor connection, but it's worth trying just connecting the 3 main wires.
@@RCJuice thanks for the reply ,I have tried that to no effect
Good video thanks
when i swap my wires round on my sensorless brushless motor i switch my thottle from normal to reverse so the car drives forward and it is so much more powerful, if i put the wires to normal the csr is slower . .does anyone know why?, cheers
Hey Simon, the throttle channel on some radios is "backward" from other radios. We often get e-mails from a customer with this issue, they note that their care goes much quicker in reverse than forwards. The solution is to do exactly as you did, or to reverse the throttle channel on your radio and re-calibrate.
@@RCJuice thankyou, keep up the great vids
You are byeauoottyville man. Easiest explainations. I could learn 7 years of college in one day when your teaching.
I own a GT Power Pro A60 and it's a ESC with lights engine sound Vibration and light kit and I don't know what is A,B,C
That is not an ESC/Motor so no need to worry about ABC wires.
Straight to the point and answered my question. Thanks!
Thank you for watching, we always try to "get to the point"!
@@RCJuice
So on xmaxx is there a relevance between the blue white and black wires too a b and c ?
@@lindsayk41 In a non-sensored setup, the motor wires do not have a specific orientation. Running a sensored motor and ESC would require the A to A, B to B, C to C orientation in order to function properly.
Hi there! I'm fairly new to RC. I bought a Kyosho Optima Mid and a Kyosho Le Mans 240S brushless motor to go with it. I don't know which type of ESC I should buy to match the motor. Can I use a brushed ESC or does it have to be brushless also? And if you could suggest a brand and model of ESC that I should buy. Thanks a bunch for helping me out!
Definitely a brushless ESC. If you're just looking to get up and running or you want something a little more on the competitive side, check these out:
www.rcjuice.com/motor-esc/car-esc-s/1-12-1-10-short-course-esc-s/hobbystar-60a-brushless-sensored-esc.html
www.rcjuice.com/motor-esc/car-esc-s/1-12-1-10-short-course-esc-s/toro-ts120-aluminum-race-sensored-esc-blue.html
Absolutely no help to those who don't have color matched or marked esc's
Thank you for your input. We cover this in the first minute of the video. If you have a non-sensored motor/esc, orientation of the wires does not matter. If the motor spins in the opposite direction of what you want, simply swap any two wires and it will rotate in the opposite direction.
I understand that if it's not sensored it doesn't but, if it is how would you know without any markings@@RCJuice
@@wesleyvinson5470you measure the resistance between all of the poles, only way lol
I have a velineon motor but how to tell what wire is a b or c the colors are white black blue can you help please
It makes no difference on a non-sensored motor, just connect them in any order and if the motor is running in the wrong direction for you then simply reverse ANY 2 wires and it will change direction. There is no wrong way to connect them on a sensorless unit.
@@RCJuice thank you
I just need to know on a sensored what's a? (-) or positive? What's B and C?
They are three phase ac motors. There is no positive and negative. Check out videos on how brushless, 3 phase motors work.
@@aac993 I appreciate the reply but in 2 years I've learned a lot lol Now I build custom crawlers 😉
Ha....My motor has three black wires and so does the ESC. I'm assuming the middle wire of each go together, then I can connect the others and play around with finding the right direction and swap around if required...correct?
Correct, the order makes no difference at all unless it's spinning in the wrong direction for your application. Other than the direction, it's impossible to connect them in any "wrong" order on a sensorless motor.
Thanks
Perfect!
Very helpful thank you very much , is there any other way to determine the polarity of the motor wires ?
thank you. I was little scared while plugging my motor to other esc without knowledge of wire color... I saw "little smoke" and then i disconnected all of wires real quick... maybe iit wasnt smoke from wiring, only dust?'
I am new to the brushless motor hobby. I was told that I should be careful about how long the cables are between the battery and esc and the esc to the motor. Is there any kind of formula for that? I see when I bought the motor that the directions said it was OK to shorten the cables on it. What is the rule on that? What is your thought on capacitor packs? Thank you in advance, Bill
Thank you
good video, picked up a Holmes Hobbies Revolver 2 and a Mamba X esc and the Revolver had no information online or in the packaging.
How can I hook up a 3 wire hub motor to a victor 883 24 volt DC speed controller thanks
We'd need to see that controller, but that doesn't sound like it's going to work. Brushless motors are essentially AC motors (not that cut and dry but for simplification purposes) so that will likely not work.
Thank you for being straight with your answer and not click bait
We only make videos to help, not for views :)
I just wanted to add and I'm pretty sure you know to maybe forgot to mention Center wires on both the motor and ESC always be connected the yellow wire sometimes not always the yellow wire but whatever the center wire is on both the motor and ESC should always be hooked up and then like you showed you can either have it Go counterclockwise or clockwise by switching the outside to wires which would be a and b. I don't know hopefully that helps also great video
Thank you Jared, good info to add!
Noob question!! Where does the sensor wire from the motor plug into?
Into the sensor port on the ESC(if applicable).
@@RCJuice thank you! I’m new to the brushless scene.
Hello, is it possible to install a coreless motor instead of brushless on this quadcopter board? Because the motor without a core has two output wires, but the motor of this quadcopter has four wires
How do you hook up a power supply to brushless motors? I got some free brushless motors and want to test them and set timing and amp draw.
I got a question Castle ESC sensored 6 wires how do I convert it 2 wires hobbywing sensored motor????
Please send us an e-mail so we can get some clarification and help, we are unsure of what you have going on: support@rcjuice.com
So, for a motor WITH sensors, how do you match up the phase and hall sensors, please?
How if you accidentally connect a to b, b to c and c to a
I wish everything was that easy! Thank you
Blue to orange! Lol, it's red not orange
I got a flytec 2011-5, want to upgrade with a water jet. Can I use the original controller after that? Or... what I need if already have the motor and the pump?
You'll likely need a different controller matched to the motor rating.
what happen if I swap the yellow cable to blue?
I got my motor to work but it starts fast then slows way down is it battery or wiring?
What are these cables called? I’ve been searching but can’t find anywhere. My Esc to motor cable snapped on Erevo 2.0 please help me find the name of these holed connectors
I always thought the middle one has to match up
I have this bldc fan motor that has ( white, blue, yellow, red) from left to right. What are these wires and if I can hook up couple of them to a souce of DC to test it to see if this thing is any good which two wires should I hook my power to?
I am assuming the other two wires, one maybe tachometer and the other probably pulse modulation.
Should I be able to read some resistance between whatever wires or how does that work? Or should there be resistance between the two wires that go to power source.
I hooked up the white and the blue to DC power and the fan did not run and I noticed current was really kicking in with hardly any voltage applied. So I disconnected.
This thing goes on the evaporator of my fridge. I think this motor is shot.
Shouldn't the fan blades spin loose and free without any quick stopping?
When I hook up all the wires together or any two wires, the fan blade spin does not show any change?
It says 9.75 volts DC on it.
so, I'm trying to run a sensor less motor with a controller that has no hall sensor wires to the motor. It only has the rx tx and blue wires for the display.
It's all hooked up and nothing. Should I try attaching the blue "display " wire to the blue phase wire?
That was a good explonation. Thanks allot. Gretings from norway. I all cabels in black so l was thinking allot.
Thank you for watching!
"a lot"
Can any brushless esc 2 wires be soldier to a brushed motor
Unfortunately not, the speed controls for brushless vs. brushless operate very differently.
What If I have a sensored esc and want to use on a none sensor motor will it work
If your ESC can run in non-sensored mode, yes.
Does the middle wire matter? can you fuck up your esc if you put your middle wire on the wrong esc output?
Not at all, on a non-sensored motor the 3 wires can go in any order, if it's spinning in the opposite direction of what you need simply swap ANY 2 wires and it will reverse the rotation but any wire can go to any lead. On a sensored motor you must connect A-A, B-B and C-C if the sensor harness is connected, if you do not hook up the wires in order on a sensored motor it will not operate correctly.
@@RCJuice ok thanks!
Thank you
I have the surpass hobby brushless motor 2030 and the esc is the traxxas vxl3m. And the motor wires are not colored and I saw it was going reverse, so i flipped it. And sudden the motor got so hot when its not being driven yet and the battery is a 2s lipo 2000mah and is the cause of it?
What is a non-centered motor? Is there centered motor?
Non-sensored motors are more common than sensored wires, they simply do not have a sensor port or sensor on them and cog a little on startup.
How to know the right thickness for wire please Thank you for your time
There are no set rules for this, it depends on the application but for most 1/10 and 1/8 motors 12AWG wire is sufficient, 10AWG for high-power 1/8 applications and 8AWG for 1/5 setups.
I'm kind of new at this what's a sensored motor like with a temp sensor in it
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Very helpful. Thank you.
Our pleasure, thank you for watching!
BUT with sensor type motors: is it possible to take a motor with sensors and hook it up to an ECS (meant for a sensor type motor) and hook it up to make it work? In general are all sensor type ECS's and all sensor type brushless motors compatible? Now, I've said that two ways. I want to have a discussion about how easy it is to work with (hook up) brushless motors. ON the ECS, what do each of those three wires go to on the motor (purpose)? That was a messy question - hopefully you can decipher the meaning of the issues at hand here.
Dude, years later, this video is still helping people. Thank you.
i was taking apart my rc car and putting it back together because I needed to remount the taped parts. I misplaced the a and c wire with each other and tried to run it a couple of times (no more than 4) before I realised the issue. I switched them back. Could this have damaged my motor or esc? I have a sensored brushless motor btw
How can I reverse the direction of the motor?
If it is a non-sensored motor, you can simply swap any 2 wires and it will reverse the rotation. If it's a sensored motor then the 3 wires do have to be connected in the proper A-B-C order and you must reverse the rotation via ESC programming.
Can you do a video about your hobbystar 4092 1480kv motor please
What info would you like to see in the video?
RCJuice what screws are used to hold the can, a power test or the strength of the magnet or maybe a test run
We are going to be using that motor in an 8S setup in our new shop Traxxas UDR and will have plenty of vids on it :)
RCJuice awesome. I'm looking for the 4092 1480kv to use in my tekno et48.3 with big proline tires and i hope it will be efficient and run cool
I have a brushless motor with 2 big wire's red and black and 3 tiny wire's
Need to reverse the motor operation.
How? Red and black go to circuit board with a relay three tiny wire's to speed control
A brushless motor, by definition, needs at least 3 power/phase wires to operate. Do you have a link to the motor you are working with?
@@RCJuice it is a costway 250 lb thrust 24 volt
@@johngilbert5352 Sorry, but we would have to get our hands on that to see how it's all wired up. Since it's not an RC we are just not familiar with them offhand.
@@RCJuice I got it. I found that you could reverse the controls the speed control
How to fix lag in motor
Lag is generally a result of the ESC setup and cannot be changed, the best you can usually do is to address any mechanical freeplay to minimize the effects of motor lag.
Is damage guaranteed if incorrect a to c wiring on a sensored setup? Or just low rpm stuttering/cogging until fixed? Thanks
Definitely not guaranteed. In general, you'll catch it right away due to the symptoms you noted and can switch with no adverse affect. Prolonged use can damage so it's advised to fix ASAP.
HI, GREAT VIDEO, THANKS. CAN A 500 WATT, BRUSHLESS MOTOR BE HOOKED STRAIGHT TO A BATTERY WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMPONENT? DOES A 500 WATT BRUSHLESS MOTOR HAVE TO BE HOOKED UP TO A CONTROLER? THANK YOU.
Must have a comtroller because they switch alternatly to make it run because without brushed moving on the armeture to switch it manual by motor rotation it's done using the controller.
I have only two wire coming inside my house..... i have a problem in connection. And my baterry have only two outputs... i am confuse i cannot anymore...
@@RCJuice ....... thankyou....
Please if its not too big a pain
I have a bigger motor, a me-1306 BLDC. 12KW. Do you know a controller that will work with it?
I would look at Kelly-Controllers for that type of motor.
What does it mean when you switch the two wires out in the motor doesn't spin but when all the wires are hooked up normal and it spins in reverse
Is this a sensored motor?
I have a Drone motor with 3 wires all the same colour..which is the Signal wire....?
All 3 wires are motor power, simply connect all 3 wires in any order and if it's spinning in the opposite direction that you want, then just swap around any of the 2 wires and it will reverse direction. There are no "signal" wires on these motors, some car motors are sensored and do have a separate harness for the sensor connection, but of the 3 main wires all are just phase wires and on a non-sensored motor like an aircraft motor, the wire order does not matter other than for direction of rotation.
Excuse me sir and trying to connect a new motor and esc to my mini e revo
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Hey I was just wondering, does the dynamite tazer 3300kv 4 pole brushless have sensors or is it sensorless
Sensorless.
@@RCJuice I have another question do you know if it will work with the traxxas velineon vxl 3s 3355r esc?