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@@joshwilliams5860Yeah they watch and play and do a lot off screen. I meant if they film few in advance, post 2 different days not wait til Sunday to post 🤣
This episode has one of the most chilling cuts I've seen in anything. We see the desert scene from Mike's POV. It's COMPLETELY silent. Then we cut to the ground below as the twins etc walk out of the shack and we hear the truck driver just WAILING and SCREAMING, begging for his life. It is wonderfully edited and it is just rough to watch. For a small part, that truck driver does a great job.
I like Eric's point about when Jimmy and Chuck were working together for the sandpiper case, those really were the golden days, but we didn't know it at the time.
I really like Eric always acknowledging the cinematography and how BCS is shot. It is such a gorgeously-looking TV show. This is a very good episode as well. Jimmy and Chuck have got a very interesting relationship towards each other. This episode contains some of the most painful scenes between the two of them. Cant wait for their reaction to Chicanery in the next season.
@@arafat9828 IMO season 4 is the best one, i love season 5 and i understand that it needs to be more Breaking Bad but i prefer the old seasons format with less drug dealers and gun shots lol.
I've known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honourable thieves - you can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word.
28:01 I'm so happy that they are paying attention to the episode titles because of what comes next. Episode titles of this season are an easter egg. Vince Gilligan you are genius.
@@mr.onomatopoeia523 True, but Gilligan was still co-running the show during all of season 2, though. He was very much involved in creating the episode titles easter egg.
Really great reaction. :) I have a suggestion for whoever is reading the comments for Blindwave. Once that one character appears in season 3, you should mention to the crew the anagram made out of the S2 episodes titles. It's just such a great Vince Gilligan easter egg and you can point out a fan actually found that out pretty quickly.
NIce to watch a reaction where someone sees both sides. Usually people or too much on Jimmy's side or too much on Chuck's side. But they're dynamic is richer than that. Their love hate relationship and the ways the hurt each other is amazing. With wrongs on both sides.
Chuck's pettiness is so next level. Jimmy has assumed Chuck has held a grudge against him since the "Chicago Sunroof" incident, but we know he has held a grudge since the accounting of his father's business, where they attributed all the losses to Jimmy's "Sticky fingers" but we know Jimmy's father handed out money to any person with a sob story then there's the pettiness with his mother's deathbead, where he hold a grudge against Jimmy for being "selfish" in wanting to get himself and Chuck food and missing his mother's immediate death, where she called out for Jimmy and not Chuck, holding it against Jimmy for the rest of his life. Chuck might be the pettiest TV character of all time.
I don't think he didn't tell jimmy because he went to get food. It was because he didn't want to give jimmy the ego satisfaction that his moms last words his name. Chuck wants jimmy to realize he's a bad person and stop his ways. If jimmy learned that he would feel more emboldened to stay who he is, that he is a good person
@@funfunfun3624 you could argue that its also a nice thing to do, how great would you feel if you decided to skip out on your dying mom to grab food and she wakes up asks for you and die.
@@funfunfun3624 no no no. You give Chuck waaaay too much credit. He didnt tell Jimmy cause he hated that their mother loved Jimmy more. It's as simple as that. Jimmy and Chuck are opposites. Jimmy is the personification of "the ends justify the means" phrase, a genuinely good guy that uses illegal or immoral means to achieve good things. Chuck is a selfish piece of sh1t, so sh1ty that hates his own brother for being their parents' favourite, so sh1ty that gets out of his way to make his life misserable but always goes by the book and always pretending to do it for "the right reasons" or "to make Jimmy a better person". The actuality is that Chuck is a horrible person that to outsiders may seem decent and Jimmy is a wonderfull person that to outsiders may seem indecent. That's the whole point of the series.
@@Laketwig actualy the only time the show has shown us Chuck "cleaning after" Jimmy is after the sunroof incident. On the other hand the show has shown us time after time after time Chuck trying to f@ck Jimmy every chance he gets, even when Jimmy has done nothing wrong.
33:15: They most likely went with the title "Better Call Saul" because that was also the title of the Breaking Bad episode that featured the first appearance of the character Saul Goodman. That way, if one were to watch "Better Call Saul" and "Breaking Bad" in chronological order, you'd be "returning" to the world of "Better Call Saul" when Saul Goodman showed up on Breaking Bad.
What Chuck did in the cold open is one of the coldest things I've seen in the show. Whatever wrong Jimmy has done, he did not deserve that. Chuck is no lesser of an asshole than Jimmy. But he doesn't own up to it or admit/realise it like Jimmy does.
Such an incredibly good series. I'm amazed it doesn't get the attention it deserves by TH-cam reactors. Imo it blows nearly everything out of the water.
14:30 I think it's okay to root for morally bad people in fiction. Like even though Walt or Jimmy are bad people who do bad things, they are fun and interesting to watch.
There's an Easter Egg for Season 3 in the episode titles from Season 2. It is kind of a spoiler so maybe you don't want to figure it out before finishing Season 3 but it's there.
How does Chuck not bake like a potato in that blanket when summer rolls around? He's got no AC in that house and I doubt highly he opens windows when it gets hot.
The point is that with literally zero effort from Jimmy, everyone in Chuck's life gravitates toward Jimmy. The scene with their mom reinforces the scene with Chuck's wife having an easier time joking and laughing with Jimmy than Chuck. This is what drives his animosity towards Jimmy
after finishing season 2, theres a easter egg where if you take the first letter of every episode of S2, and juggle them around it spells something big thats coming for S3 that you guys are gonna love letter are: SCAGRBIFNK
"He used his brother's love for him against him." Fuuuckin' thank you! That is exactly why I disliked Chuck. You can empathize with a character and agree with them on many counts but still dislike them for deplorable psychological manipulation. (This has been something of a hot topic among fans at some point in the past; Whether to love or hate him, like it can't be a little of both and a little less strong.)
@@flamefusion8963 I know. This is how this conversation goes I've had it. Now I explain that I never said otherwise. Then somehow I still end up talking about Jimmy and Chuck's from-the-get-go relationship in relation to their history, and the dynamics of trust and how wonderfully webbed the story is. But for the sake of simplicity, it's easy to see how Jimmy could believe it when Kim said, "You never wanted him to succeed." Which, I don't even necessarily think was true. But it's easy to see it that way on account of the way Chuck acts. Chuck showed love differently than... well, a lot of loving people, and the sheer visceral dependence of using brother/caretaker's care as a weapon because he is rigid about the law... well it irritates a lot of people. Short version: He rude. What an actor though.
The thing that bugs me about these reactions is that they keep calling Hector “tio”, like it’s a name 😂 They do the same thing in Brooklyn Nine Nine where they keep calling The Vulture “Major Crimes” like that’s his name, when really that’s just the division he works for 😂
You should watch two or eps a week to get caught up so u can watch part two of the final season live. This show has some of the most true to form cliffhanger season endings. Michael McKean is a top tier actor imo. Just wow. Jimmy loves Chuck because is deep down a good shattered person but doesn’t feel like rules and laws make sense. Chuck just plain out is jealous of Jimmy and how people love him. Chuck is the complete and total antagonist in their relationship and a total douche. And Rick is beyond good at this shit. Keep watching boys.
i also think people need to remember this was the second case chuck has been part of since coming back to hhm and he needed it to go smoothly considering he wants to get better and people had been constantly calling him crazy if it had gone well we could have seen him get back to normal at a steady pace but jimmy didnt think about his brother at all and used his illness to get the case back for kim because u need to remember jimmy used the time when chuck was passed out in pain shaking to go into his house and tamper with the documents which also ment leaving him alone instead of actually taking care of him (jimmy used chucks illness to steal the case for kim and chuck used his illness to make him admit it)
I'm not excusing Jimmy for what he did and while Chuck getting Mesa Verde to go back to HHM wasn't illegal, I don't really sympathize with him that much due to the implication that he went to retain them because Kim left to set up shop with Jimmy. Spoilers And Chuck wasn't going to get better even if Jimmy didn't do what he did. To get better, he'd have to admit and confront that his illness his mental, not physical. His pride would never allow him to admit that until it was flat out shown to him.
Gosh I hate this type of relationship so much, the show runners portrayed it so well. It just feels so disgusting how much Jimmy actually loves his brother, but Chuck is just filled with the utmost resentment and disdain possible. Chuck is a complete selfish vampire that uses and abuses Jimmy for his help but refuses to see any good deed and help he gives because Chuck thinks he already ‘knows’ who Jimmy is so nothing will change his perception. Eventually you just have to let go and leave those ‘Chuck’ family members to stew in their own negative self loathing 😔🤷♀️
The relationship is more complicated than just "Jimmy actually loves his brother, but Chuck is just filled with the utmost resentment and disdain possible". We can see that already in episode 1. Jimmy is taking care of Chuck, but brotherly love might not be the only reason. He also owes Chuck for a lot from the past (as we learned later). But Chuck is also a potential instrument of Jimmy's revenge against Howard. Jimmy is pushing Chuck into cashing out of HHM. Even though it would mean liquidation and many people losing their jobs, including Kim. Also, Jimmy really should know how much HHM means for Chuck. Taking it away from him would be terrible. Chuck's perception of Jimmy still being prone to "slipping" is bolstered by the clues he gets in season 1 (the ER bill and the missing newspaper). So his determination to keep him out of HHM is only reinforced by Jimmy's recent activities. The shitty part is not refusing to give him the job, but lying about it and asking Howard to take the blame. If Jimmy actually loves Chuck, he shouldn't abuse his illness to sabotage his work and make his illness worse as a result. After that, it's hard to tell how much Jimmy cares out of love and how much out of guilty conscience. So while Jimmy keeps showing that he cares about Chuck, what he does to him kind of negates that.
Totally ignoring how jimmy will quickly backstab his brother when it serves him, gaslights tf out of everyone, and uses them to his advantage. Those traits are far more damaging than being a lil resentful and petty. Maybe if jimmy stopped being a scammer, chuck would warm up to him a lil? Have you been around manipulative ppl like jimmy irl? They are the vampires, not people like chuck
(This isn't directed at the Blind Wave guys so much as it's directed at certain commenters here and on the Blind Wave site.) Chuck isn't the bad guy. Neither is Jimmy. It's a a complex and very morally grey situation, which is part of what makes things so interesting. I see *far* too many instances of people being _way_ too forgiving of Jimmy's crappy behaviour while making out that Chuck's crappy behaviour makes him pure evil, it simply isn't that straightforward. The show _heavily_ suggests that Chuck is correct about Jimmy not being able to help himself when it comes to breaking the rules/law. Even if Chuck had totally supported Jimmy and allowed him a place at HHM, do you honestly believe, with 100% certainty, that he would've become an honest, upstanding lawyer? Sure, it's not _impossible,_ but it's entirely understandable why Chuck is sceptical enough of Jimmy's character, given his reprehensible history, to not want to take the chance. Don't get me wrong, Chuck is in no way 100% in the right; his legitimate concerns about Jimmy are massively tied up with his personal envy of Jimmy's natural charm and likeability with others, _especially_ their parents, but that doesn't make Chuck _entirely_ wrong to oppose Jimmy's law career. They're _both_ supposed to be morally grey, but some people watching the show seem to fall heavily into "Protagonist-Centered Morality" and downplay Jimmy's shitty actions while exaggerating Chuck's.
@@imetacrab Why do you think Jimmy _deserves_ a chance? He spent the majority of the first 30-odd years of his life being an amoral conman, only promising to turn things around under the direct threat of a long prison sentence. I think it's even directly stated that this wasn't the first time he'd promised to turn things around before going back to his old ways. Just try and see it from Chuck's perspective: while he may be pleased that Jimmy has seemingly stayed out of any big trouble with a steady job in the mail room, him suddenly revealing his secret intentions to work as a _lawyer,_ with all the potential for misdeeds that brings (and with a degree from an extremely questionable source I might add), I totally understand why he'd be _extremely_ sceptical about his intentions. I just don't think it's unreasonable of Chuck to not have faith in Jimmy's ability to change and be a better person when he's been given absolutely _zero_ reason to do so. Sure, _maybe_ Jimmy would've turned things around if Chuck had taken a chance on him and mentored him as a lawyer but I don't think it's at all fair to pin the blame for Jimmy's future crimes on Chuck for not supporting him; he didn't _owe_ Jimmy his support. Oh and, sorry to be nitpicky but I wouldn't call Chuck using Howard as a scapegoat "gaslighting", it's really just...lying, and not entirely malicious lying at that. It's definitely manipulative, to be sure, but clearly done out of a desire to preserve their friendly relationship and not hurt Jimmy's feelings by revealing his disapproval directly. As I said, I don't disagree about Chuck's envious, resentful attitude towards Jimmy. It's undeniable that while Chuck _claims_ his actions against Jimmy are exclusively for the good of others, it's made explicitly clear he's _definitely_ partially motivated by those not-entirely-deserved unpleasant feelings towards him. I don't think Chuck is secretly the hero or 100% a good guy or anything, I just think people are much too dismissive of the complexities of his character and motivations when they just call him an asshole villain, as if Jimmy never did _anything_ deserving of Chuck's disdain. I don't think Jimmy knowing he's amoral and _sometimes_ doing the right thing excuses his bad actions as much as you do. Conversely, I don't think Chuck thinking he's a better, more righteous person than he is makes him as bad as you do. I also don't agree about either show being so clear cut about rooting for protagonists over antagonists, sure, there's some instances where the lesser of two evils is really obvious (anyone named Salamanca is obviously not someone you'd root for even if they were the protagonist) but in a lot of cases I feel a lot of audience sympathies would be different if we were seeing events from someone else's POV. Gus and Chuck I think are the best examples, if the events of the story were framed from their perspectives rather than their enemies I think all the characters would be perceived a little differently. I really think a lot of this is a perspective thing.
@@imetacrab _Second_ chances yes, fair enough, but this wasn't a case of Jimmy doing _one_ bad thing and Chuck condemning him forever for it, like I said, it was a _lifetime_ of being a duplicitous grifter. I think that's easily enough reason to be sceptical of his ability to change. To be clear, the issue with how Jimmy got his qualification wasn't that it was via distance learning, it's that the university he got it from is rather shady and suspect. I wouldn't consider Chuck hiring Jimmy or allowing him to get a job at another big law firm "neutral". Given he has very good reasons to believe Jimmy will abuse his position, hiring him could potentially be disastrous to HHM's and Chuck's own reputation. Even allowing him to work at another firm could reflect very badly on Chuck given their family connection. As I've said, I don't entirely condone Chuck's actions and I wouldn't expect others to, I just wish people would try and understand a little more _why_ he does what he does instead of treating it like he _only_ does things out of petty spite. I'm not sure it's possible to entirely take that quote from Kim on face value, I don't think even _Kim_ entirely believes what she's saying there; she knows she has to fight for Jimmy's side there since he'll be in a lot of trouble otherwise but she also knows he's _definitely_ guilty. I just don't think it's as simple as "the only reason Jimmy goes bad is because Chuck didn't support him when he should have so everything is Chuck's fault", as I've said, in my opinion, there was really just not enough evidence from Chuck's point of view that Jimmy could/would genuinely change for me to condemn him. I know it's easy as an audience member who's seeing things from Jimmy's perspective enough to know his attempts to change are genuine but, from Chuck's point of view, there's really no reason to believe it. Plus, as Chuck says, even _if_ Jimmy does genuinely mean well, he just doesn't think he can help himself given his history, which I don't think is _entirely_ unreasonable. Harsh certainly, but Jimmy brought it on himself by spending so many years being so duplicitous. I know people try and make out that Chuck was an asshole for wanting Jimmy to stay in the mail room for the rest of his life but I don't honestly think that's true, if Jimmy had tried to pursue a better career in literally almost _anything_ else other than lawyering I don't think Chuck would've been anywhere near as concerned, certainly not enough to try and sabotage him.
@@imetacrab I agreed with you until you pointed to "the system". Both shows are about choices. Walter didn't make money early in his career because he made a choice. He chose to let Gretchen and Elliott buy him out. Likewise, he could have chosen to take their money instead of cooking meth. Walter explicitly states it more than once. He made choices and these are the consequences. Blaming "the system" removes personal responsibility.
@@Zomdra Skepticism is fine, but maybe he shouldn't have given Jimmy the chance in first place if he truly believed he couldn't change. So regardless of whether you sympathize with Jimmy or not, you can understand his frustration and disappointment that his brother claimed to support him all that time, but really didn't. I'm pretty sure from Chuck's words it's that it was an online course, which was a shortcut somehow while he worked his butt off to get where he was. Whateved the case was, it all came down to him not liking that Jimmy was a lawyer. That's reasonable, but he never actually asked him why he wanted to be a lawyer or what it meant to him. He just left him to hang. If guiding him as a lawyer or referring him to another firm wasn't a option, then he could have simply had him consider looking at another career. Not to mention, tell him about his skepticism straight up. Instead, he let Howard, his friend and partner, take the heat. Maybe the things Chuck does isn't only out of spite, but the fact that there is obvious spite plus his inability to admit how or why his actions left Jimmy feeling betrayed make his claims about being right or supposed good intentions questionable. At that moment, yeah, Kim was saving face because she knew Chuck was right about what Jimmy did, but words still had some truth to them. You're right. It's not that simple. Jimmy is responsible for his own decisions and should be held accountable to them. But Chuck should be held accountable to his as well, but as we'll see, he may not fully believe that. Unfortunately, while this might be somewhat hypocritical for an audience member to say, Chuck's point of view is very bias against Jimmy. The guy worked as a law abiding citizen to 10 years and that wasn't enough. Chances are nothing he did was ever going to be enough. Perhaps it's not unreasonable I'll admit. Maybe, but again, if Jimmy was such a lost cause, why give him the chance to turn it all around if he never believed he would? Why keep him around? Maybe it's not true, but considering he didn't help him get a job as a lawyer or even guide him to another career, it kind of seems true. At that point, his options were to stay in the mailroom or take his chances as a solo lawyer which was extremely unlikely to work.
Bottom line....Chuck is the absolute worst and deserves everything that happens to him. It's his fault that Jimmy became Saul. Jimmy was a great person and if Chuck had supported him as a lawyer then everything would have been different. Team Jimmy a 1000%
i think you guys do have that inherent bias towards jimmy this is the first time chuck has used his mentle state to influence jimmy to (in this case say the truth) and he does love his brother other wise we wouldnt have dropped everything and stop jimmy from going to jail then get him a job
I mean people allways have a bias towards the protagonist. People hated Skyler in Breaking Bad even though she was right (most of the time). And I don't think Chuck has much love left for his brother at this point.
The thing with chuck is He is right about jimmy but only because he never believed in him. He only liked jimmy when he is below him in the mail room he is jealous of jimmy for having charisma
I think he did that more out of love for his mother rather than love for his brother. Cause his mom called him about it. And the job feels more like a way to keep him out of trouble so he doesn't have to worry about him anymore. Not that keeping him out of trouble is a bad thing but it doesn't mean he's doing it out of love. Just feels like he's doing it more for his own sake/sanity. I'm not saying it couldn't have been out of love nor am i saying Chuck doesn't love Jimmy but i definitely don't think those actions confirm his love for Jimmy in any way.
@@Matthew-uh9id thats the thing i do think he believed in him atleast a little bit because early on when jimmy fakes the billboard thing jimmy trys to play it off as chucks advice that he gave jimmy working (the advice sounded pretty fair) so i think jimmy said it best hes a "square pegg"
But why would Chuck want to help Jimmy? Jimmy caused his father's death, wasn't there when their mom passed, been to prison multiple times, and is straight up a criminal. Chuck is a petty bastard, but he is still the good guy and has reason to doubt Jimmy when he tells Chuck he is going straight. I woulnd't hire Jimmy for my firm, even if he was family. Chuck is a hatefull "good guy", and Jimmy is a sympathetic criminal.
@@flamefusion8963nah, not as bad as Chuck, not yet. Anyway. But he was always sensible even BB. Looked other way.. If Chuck wasn’t the way he was… maybe he doesn’t do certain things for right reasons and turn into who he ends up. Even though it’s not quite breaking bad as Walt did.
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Rick called it immediately: "This (confession) isn't proof. He can just say he's trying to make Chuck feel better."
"No, mom, it's me, Chuck."
"Gimme Jimmy."
🤣🤣🤣
By the time the crew get to Season 6, the series finale will have already aired. That's crazy to me!
If any of the crew are caught up, they could pull a Clone Wars and do to reactions one when it premieres and one when the blind catch up.
Wish they’d do 2 or 3 a wk
they timed it so well
@@Humanipathic they’re way too busy for that
@@joshwilliams5860Yeah they watch and play and do a lot off screen. I meant if they film few in advance, post 2 different days not wait til Sunday to post 🤣
That opening flashback is so heartbreaking
I sympathized with Chuck the entire series up until this point
This episode has one of the most chilling cuts I've seen in anything.
We see the desert scene from Mike's POV. It's COMPLETELY silent. Then we cut to the ground below as the twins etc walk out of the shack and we hear the truck driver just WAILING and SCREAMING, begging for his life.
It is wonderfully edited and it is just rough to watch. For a small part, that truck driver does a great job.
Yeah, I've always found that part really disturbing.
I like Eric's point about when Jimmy and Chuck were working together for the sandpiper case, those really were the golden days, but we didn't know it at the time.
I really like Eric always acknowledging the cinematography and how BCS is shot. It is such a gorgeously-looking TV show.
This is a very good episode as well. Jimmy and Chuck have got a very interesting relationship towards each other. This episode contains some of the most painful scenes between the two of them. Cant wait for their reaction to Chicanery in the next season.
You are not ready for the next three seasons... the best of the show begins now
Laughs in old folks home
Only downside is that it’s the Final season 🥲🥲😭
Personally, S4 feels the most odd season to me. It almost feels like a transitionary phase
@@arafat9828 IMO season 4 is the best one, i love season 5 and i understand that it needs to be more Breaking Bad but i prefer the old seasons format with less drug dealers and gun shots lol.
The plot thickens!
Ernie covering for Jimmy is great. He's a good guy
This world isn't kind to good guys unfortunately... Gale comes to mind.
@@mathiaswalker350 one could argue a meth cook isn't a 'good guy'
I've known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honourable thieves - you can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word.
@@isais207 sure, but I'm talking a characteristically good person, not a morally righteous kind of good
@@pointystories582 mike is the best. this line and the one in breaking bad about half measures are two of my fav quotes from him
I cant remember who said it but Chuck does the right thing for the wrong reasons while Jimmy does the wrong thing for the right reasons
28:01 I'm so happy that they are paying attention to the episode titles because of what comes next. Episode titles of this season are an easter egg. Vince Gilligan you are genius.
Peter gould* holy shit poor guy has all the credit taken by a guy who hasn't worked on the show for several seasons
@@mr.onomatopoeia523 True, but Gilligan was still co-running the show during all of season 2, though. He was very much involved in creating the episode titles easter egg.
Really great reaction. :)
I have a suggestion for whoever is reading the comments for Blindwave. Once that one character appears in season 3, you should mention to the crew the anagram made out of the S2 episodes titles. It's just such a great Vince Gilligan easter egg and you can point out a fan actually found that out pretty quickly.
I was gonna say the same thing. They need to know about this.
@@jakesnake244 yess, they need to know, who's back!
all these years and never noticed that before nor read about it😳
Wait i don't know anything about that. What?
@@porc1429 first letters of Season 2 titles Spells FRINGS BACK
im so happy that you guys can appreciate these complex and interesting relationships between the characters in this show.
NIce to watch a reaction where someone sees both sides. Usually people or too much on Jimmy's side or too much on Chuck's side. But they're dynamic is richer than that. Their love hate relationship and the ways the hurt each other is amazing. With wrongs on both sides.
so many twists this episode threw at us I love it
Chuck's pettiness is so next level. Jimmy has assumed Chuck has held a grudge against him since the "Chicago Sunroof" incident, but we know he has held a grudge since the accounting of his father's business, where they attributed all the losses to Jimmy's "Sticky fingers" but we know Jimmy's father handed out money to any person with a sob story then there's the pettiness with his mother's deathbead, where he hold a grudge against Jimmy for being "selfish" in wanting to get himself and Chuck food and missing his mother's immediate death, where she called out for Jimmy and not Chuck, holding it against Jimmy for the rest of his life. Chuck might be the pettiest TV character of all time.
I don't think he didn't tell jimmy because he went to get food. It was because he didn't want to give jimmy the ego satisfaction that his moms last words his name. Chuck wants jimmy to realize he's a bad person and stop his ways. If jimmy learned that he would feel more emboldened to stay who he is, that he is a good person
@@funfunfun3624 you could argue that its also a nice thing to do, how great would you feel if you decided to skip out on your dying mom to grab food and she wakes up asks for you and die.
how about jimmy scamming people for his entire life and chuck cleaning up for him?
@@funfunfun3624 no no no. You give Chuck waaaay too much credit. He didnt tell Jimmy cause he hated that their mother loved Jimmy more. It's as simple as that. Jimmy and Chuck are opposites. Jimmy is the personification of "the ends justify the means" phrase, a genuinely good guy that uses illegal or immoral means to achieve good things. Chuck is a selfish piece of sh1t, so sh1ty that hates his own brother for being their parents' favourite, so sh1ty that gets out of his way to make his life misserable but always goes by the book and always pretending to do it for "the right reasons" or "to make Jimmy a better person". The actuality is that Chuck is a horrible person that to outsiders may seem decent and Jimmy is a wonderfull person that to outsiders may seem indecent. That's the whole point of the series.
@@Laketwig actualy the only time the show has shown us Chuck "cleaning after" Jimmy is after the sunroof incident. On the other hand the show has shown us time after time after time Chuck trying to f@ck Jimmy every chance he gets, even when Jimmy has done nothing wrong.
33:15: They most likely went with the title "Better Call Saul" because that was also the title of the Breaking Bad episode that featured the first appearance of the character Saul Goodman. That way, if one were to watch "Better Call Saul" and "Breaking Bad" in chronological order, you'd be "returning" to the world of "Better Call Saul" when Saul Goodman showed up on Breaking Bad.
What Chuck did in the cold open is one of the coldest things I've seen in the show. Whatever wrong Jimmy has done, he did not deserve that. Chuck is no lesser of an asshole than Jimmy. But he doesn't own up to it or admit/realise it like Jimmy does.
I'm so excited for y'all to start season 3, this show REALLLLLY takes off to higher levels in the next season.
Such an incredibly good series. I'm amazed it doesn't get the attention it deserves by TH-cam reactors. Imo it blows nearly everything out of the water.
I cannot wait to see them watch Chicanery 😆
14:30 I think it's okay to root for morally bad people in fiction. Like even though Walt or Jimmy are bad people who do bad things, they are fun and interesting to watch.
There's an Easter Egg for Season 3 in the episode titles from Season 2. It is kind of a spoiler so maybe you don't want to figure it out before finishing Season 3 but it's there.
ERNIE IS A REAL ONE
Sooooo much fun watching you guys try to guess WHO LEFT THAT NOTE
They didn't even really talk about it.
How does Chuck not bake like a potato in that blanket when summer rolls around? He's got no AC in that house and I doubt highly he opens windows when it gets hot.
True sign of a great show...you're frustrated when it ends!👍
we need a counter of the crew saying that's a good shot just from breaking bad and better call Saul
13:11 I was reeeaaally hoping someone would've said "You shouldn't have did that"
The point is that with literally zero effort from Jimmy, everyone in Chuck's life gravitates toward Jimmy. The scene with their mom reinforces the scene with Chuck's wife having an easier time joking and laughing with Jimmy than Chuck. This is what drives his animosity towards Jimmy
About the pringles talk
Yes, I can reach to the bottom of the can
Quite easily, I can form a fist in there
Tight fist, but fist
0:35 that was clean
Now, take the first letter of each title this season and rearrange them.
after finishing season 2, theres a easter egg where if you take the first letter of every episode of S2, and juggle them around it spells something big thats coming for S3 that you guys are gonna love
letter are: SCAGRBIFNK
answer: FRINGISBACK
@@DESPAlRR I do really appreciate that you, Enigma, are the one to present and solve this puzzle.
"I hate seeing it, but I enjoy watching it"
Thank you, I will remember and use this phrase!
Love it because things are about to get NUTS
it makes me laugh when a bunch of them write down the same parts 💀
Perfect timing my dudes. Season 6 might put BCS over Breaking bad. It's just that spectacular.
I had an mri last year and it was hands down the most uncomfortable medical situation I’ve ever experienced while conscious.
I like how Chuck out Jimmy Jimmy.
MRIs are loud.
19:40 Season 3 will be a fun watch
GOD I hope they remember that duct tape discussion for a certain Attack on Titan episode coming up.
Season 3 is the best season imo it’s really the peak of the show .
I personally think S4 was the best but S3 is just as good
"He used his brother's love for him against him."
Fuuuckin' thank you! That is exactly why I disliked Chuck. You can empathize with a character and agree with them on many counts but still dislike them for deplorable psychological manipulation. (This has been something of a hot topic among fans at some point in the past; Whether to love or hate him, like it can't be a little of both and a little less strong.)
Jimmy also repeatedly lies to Chuck and even screwed him over. They are both terrible to each other.
@@flamefusion8963 I know. This is how this conversation goes I've had it. Now I explain that I never said otherwise. Then somehow I still end up talking about Jimmy and Chuck's from-the-get-go relationship in relation to their history, and the dynamics of trust and how wonderfully webbed the story is. But for the sake of simplicity, it's easy to see how Jimmy could believe it when Kim said, "You never wanted him to succeed." Which, I don't even necessarily think was true. But it's easy to see it that way on account of the way Chuck acts. Chuck showed love differently than... well, a lot of loving people, and the sheer visceral dependence of using brother/caretaker's care as a weapon because he is rigid about the law... well it irritates a lot of people. Short version: He rude.
What an actor though.
Has anyone told them about the easter egg with the first letters of all the season 2 episode titles yet?
There was a good portion of the duct tape discussion where it looked like Aaron was on to something. Lol
huh?
@@Luke-cu7bf If you rearrange the first letter of every episode title it spells "Frings Back"
@@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827 why should the average viewer even know that?
The thing that bugs me about these reactions is that they keep calling Hector “tio”, like it’s a name 😂 They do the same thing in Brooklyn Nine Nine where they keep calling The Vulture “Major Crimes” like that’s his name, when really that’s just the division he works for 😂
Chuck is jealous of Jimmy. Jimmy envies Chuck.
Nice distinction
i have a chuck in my family
Have you ever dealt with a jimmy? They’ll turn you into a chuck
You should watch two or eps a week to get caught up so u can watch part two of the final season live.
This show has some of the most true to form cliffhanger season endings. Michael McKean is a top tier actor imo. Just wow.
Jimmy loves Chuck because is deep down a good shattered person but doesn’t feel like rules and laws make sense. Chuck just plain out is jealous of Jimmy and how people love him. Chuck is the complete and total antagonist in their relationship and a total douche.
And Rick is beyond good at this shit. Keep watching boys.
sadly they wont
They could post more reactions until season 6 releases
Maybe Chuck says, get a new name or I go to the bar.
Cool pen flip points
1 to Calvin
i also think people need to remember this was the second case chuck has been part of since coming back to hhm and he needed it to go smoothly considering he wants to get better and people had been constantly calling him crazy if it had gone well we could have seen him get back to normal at a steady pace but jimmy didnt think about his brother at all and used his illness to get the case back for kim because u need to remember jimmy used the time when chuck was passed out in pain shaking to go into his house and tamper with the documents which also ment leaving him alone instead of actually taking care of him (jimmy used chucks illness to steal the case for kim and chuck used his illness to make him admit it)
I'm not excusing Jimmy for what he did and while Chuck getting Mesa Verde to go back to HHM wasn't illegal, I don't really sympathize with him that much due to the implication that he went to retain them because Kim left to set up shop with Jimmy.
Spoilers
And Chuck wasn't going to get better even if Jimmy didn't do what he did. To get better, he'd have to admit and confront that his illness his mental, not physical. His pride would never allow him to admit that until it was flat out shown to him.
It's weird that y'all refer to Hector as Tio.
yeah idk why they call him that
They watched Breaking Bad, where Tuco calls him Tio about 100 times.
Gosh I hate this type of relationship so much, the show runners portrayed it so well. It just feels so disgusting how much Jimmy actually loves his brother, but Chuck is just filled with the utmost resentment and disdain possible. Chuck is a complete selfish vampire that uses and abuses Jimmy for his help but refuses to see any good deed and help he gives because Chuck thinks he already ‘knows’ who Jimmy is so nothing will change his perception. Eventually you just have to let go and leave those ‘Chuck’ family members to stew in their own negative self loathing 😔🤷♀️
The relationship is more complicated than just "Jimmy actually loves his brother, but Chuck is just filled with the utmost resentment and disdain possible".
We can see that already in episode 1. Jimmy is taking care of Chuck, but brotherly love might not be the only reason. He also owes Chuck for a lot from the past (as we learned later). But Chuck is also a potential instrument of Jimmy's revenge against Howard. Jimmy is pushing Chuck into cashing out of HHM. Even though it would mean liquidation and many people losing their jobs, including Kim. Also, Jimmy really should know how much HHM means for Chuck. Taking it away from him would be terrible.
Chuck's perception of Jimmy still being prone to "slipping" is bolstered by the clues he gets in season 1 (the ER bill and the missing newspaper). So his determination to keep him out of HHM is only reinforced by Jimmy's recent activities. The shitty part is not refusing to give him the job, but lying about it and asking Howard to take the blame.
If Jimmy actually loves Chuck, he shouldn't abuse his illness to sabotage his work and make his illness worse as a result. After that, it's hard to tell how much Jimmy cares out of love and how much out of guilty conscience. So while Jimmy keeps showing that he cares about Chuck, what he does to him kind of negates that.
Totally ignoring how jimmy will quickly backstab his brother when it serves him, gaslights tf out of everyone, and uses them to his advantage. Those traits are far more damaging than being a lil resentful and petty. Maybe if jimmy stopped being a scammer, chuck would warm up to him a lil? Have you been around manipulative ppl like jimmy irl? They are the vampires, not people like chuck
Ayyy
(This isn't directed at the Blind Wave guys so much as it's directed at certain commenters here and on the Blind Wave site.) Chuck isn't the bad guy. Neither is Jimmy. It's a a complex and very morally grey situation, which is part of what makes things so interesting. I see *far* too many instances of people being _way_ too forgiving of Jimmy's crappy behaviour while making out that Chuck's crappy behaviour makes him pure evil, it simply isn't that straightforward.
The show _heavily_ suggests that Chuck is correct about Jimmy not being able to help himself when it comes to breaking the rules/law. Even if Chuck had totally supported Jimmy and allowed him a place at HHM, do you honestly believe, with 100% certainty, that he would've become an honest, upstanding lawyer? Sure, it's not _impossible,_ but it's entirely understandable why Chuck is sceptical enough of Jimmy's character, given his reprehensible history, to not want to take the chance. Don't get me wrong, Chuck is in no way 100% in the right; his legitimate concerns about Jimmy are massively tied up with his personal envy of Jimmy's natural charm and likeability with others, _especially_ their parents, but that doesn't make Chuck _entirely_ wrong to oppose Jimmy's law career. They're _both_ supposed to be morally grey, but some people watching the show seem to fall heavily into "Protagonist-Centered Morality" and downplay Jimmy's shitty actions while exaggerating Chuck's.
@@imetacrab Why do you think Jimmy _deserves_ a chance? He spent the majority of the first 30-odd years of his life being an amoral conman, only promising to turn things around under the direct threat of a long prison sentence. I think it's even directly stated that this wasn't the first time he'd promised to turn things around before going back to his old ways. Just try and see it from Chuck's perspective: while he may be pleased that Jimmy has seemingly stayed out of any big trouble with a steady job in the mail room, him suddenly revealing his secret intentions to work as a _lawyer,_ with all the potential for misdeeds that brings (and with a degree from an extremely questionable source I might add), I totally understand why he'd be _extremely_ sceptical about his intentions. I just don't think it's unreasonable of Chuck to not have faith in Jimmy's ability to change and be a better person when he's been given absolutely _zero_ reason to do so. Sure, _maybe_ Jimmy would've turned things around if Chuck had taken a chance on him and mentored him as a lawyer but I don't think it's at all fair to pin the blame for Jimmy's future crimes on Chuck for not supporting him; he didn't _owe_ Jimmy his support.
Oh and, sorry to be nitpicky but I wouldn't call Chuck using Howard as a scapegoat "gaslighting", it's really just...lying, and not entirely malicious lying at that. It's definitely manipulative, to be sure, but clearly done out of a desire to preserve their friendly relationship and not hurt Jimmy's feelings by revealing his disapproval directly.
As I said, I don't disagree about Chuck's envious, resentful attitude towards Jimmy. It's undeniable that while Chuck _claims_ his actions against Jimmy are exclusively for the good of others, it's made explicitly clear he's _definitely_ partially motivated by those not-entirely-deserved unpleasant feelings towards him. I don't think Chuck is secretly the hero or 100% a good guy or anything, I just think people are much too dismissive of the complexities of his character and motivations when they just call him an asshole villain, as if Jimmy never did _anything_ deserving of Chuck's disdain.
I don't think Jimmy knowing he's amoral and _sometimes_ doing the right thing excuses his bad actions as much as you do. Conversely, I don't think Chuck thinking he's a better, more righteous person than he is makes him as bad as you do. I also don't agree about either show being so clear cut about rooting for protagonists over antagonists, sure, there's some instances where the lesser of two evils is really obvious (anyone named Salamanca is obviously not someone you'd root for even if they were the protagonist) but in a lot of cases I feel a lot of audience sympathies would be different if we were seeing events from someone else's POV. Gus and Chuck I think are the best examples, if the events of the story were framed from their perspectives rather than their enemies I think all the characters would be perceived a little differently. I really think a lot of this is a perspective thing.
@@imetacrab _Second_ chances yes, fair enough, but this wasn't a case of Jimmy doing _one_ bad thing and Chuck condemning him forever for it, like I said, it was a _lifetime_ of being a duplicitous grifter. I think that's easily enough reason to be sceptical of his ability to change. To be clear, the issue with how Jimmy got his qualification wasn't that it was via distance learning, it's that the university he got it from is rather shady and suspect. I wouldn't consider Chuck hiring Jimmy or allowing him to get a job at another big law firm "neutral". Given he has very good reasons to believe Jimmy will abuse his position, hiring him could potentially be disastrous to HHM's and Chuck's own reputation. Even allowing him to work at another firm could reflect very badly on Chuck given their family connection. As I've said, I don't entirely condone Chuck's actions and I wouldn't expect others to, I just wish people would try and understand a little more _why_ he does what he does instead of treating it like he _only_ does things out of petty spite.
I'm not sure it's possible to entirely take that quote from Kim on face value, I don't think even _Kim_ entirely believes what she's saying there; she knows she has to fight for Jimmy's side there since he'll be in a lot of trouble otherwise but she also knows he's _definitely_ guilty. I just don't think it's as simple as "the only reason Jimmy goes bad is because Chuck didn't support him when he should have so everything is Chuck's fault", as I've said, in my opinion, there was really just not enough evidence from Chuck's point of view that Jimmy could/would genuinely change for me to condemn him. I know it's easy as an audience member who's seeing things from Jimmy's perspective enough to know his attempts to change are genuine but, from Chuck's point of view, there's really no reason to believe it. Plus, as Chuck says, even _if_ Jimmy does genuinely mean well, he just doesn't think he can help himself given his history, which I don't think is _entirely_ unreasonable. Harsh certainly, but Jimmy brought it on himself by spending so many years being so duplicitous. I know people try and make out that Chuck was an asshole for wanting Jimmy to stay in the mail room for the rest of his life but I don't honestly think that's true, if Jimmy had tried to pursue a better career in literally almost _anything_ else other than lawyering I don't think Chuck would've been anywhere near as concerned, certainly not enough to try and sabotage him.
@@imetacrab I agreed with you until you pointed to "the system".
Both shows are about choices. Walter didn't make money early in his career because he made a choice. He chose to let Gretchen and Elliott buy him out. Likewise, he could have chosen to take their money instead of cooking meth. Walter explicitly states it more than once. He made choices and these are the consequences. Blaming "the system" removes personal responsibility.
@@Zomdra Skepticism is fine, but maybe he shouldn't have given Jimmy the chance in first place if he truly believed he couldn't change. So regardless of whether you sympathize with Jimmy or not, you can understand his frustration and disappointment that his brother claimed to support him all that time, but really didn't. I'm pretty sure from Chuck's words it's that it was an online course, which was a shortcut somehow while he worked his butt off to get where he was. Whateved the case was, it all came down to him not liking that Jimmy was a lawyer. That's reasonable, but he never actually asked him why he wanted to be a lawyer or what it meant to him. He just left him to hang. If guiding him as a lawyer or referring him to another firm wasn't a option, then he could have simply had him consider looking at another career. Not to mention, tell him about his skepticism straight up. Instead, he let Howard, his friend and partner, take the heat. Maybe the things Chuck does isn't only out of spite, but the fact that there is obvious spite plus his inability to admit how or why his actions left Jimmy feeling betrayed make his claims about being right or supposed good intentions questionable.
At that moment, yeah, Kim was saving face because she knew Chuck was right about what Jimmy did, but words still had some truth to them. You're right. It's not that simple. Jimmy is responsible for his own decisions and should be held accountable to them. But Chuck should be held accountable to his as well, but as we'll see, he may not fully believe that. Unfortunately, while this might be somewhat hypocritical for an audience member to say, Chuck's point of view is very bias against Jimmy. The guy worked as a law abiding citizen to 10 years and that wasn't enough. Chances are nothing he did was ever going to be enough. Perhaps it's not unreasonable I'll admit. Maybe, but again, if Jimmy was such a lost cause, why give him the chance to turn it all around if he never believed he would? Why keep him around? Maybe it's not true, but considering he didn't help him get a job as a lawyer or even guide him to another career, it kind of seems true. At that point, his options were to stay in the mailroom or take his chances as a solo lawyer which was extremely unlikely to work.
@@havok6280 True. It all comes down to choice.
It’s so easy who to root for… Jimmy!
Bottom line....Chuck is the absolute worst and deserves everything that happens to him. It's his fault that Jimmy became Saul. Jimmy was a great person and if Chuck had supported him as a lawyer then everything would have been different. Team Jimmy a 1000%
i think you guys do have that inherent bias towards jimmy this is the first time chuck has used his mentle state to influence jimmy to (in this case say the truth) and he does love his brother other wise we wouldnt have dropped everything and stop jimmy from going to jail then get him a job
I mean people allways have a bias towards the protagonist. People hated Skyler in Breaking Bad even though she was right (most of the time). And I don't think Chuck has much love left for his brother at this point.
The thing with chuck is He is right about jimmy but only because he never believed in him. He only liked jimmy when he is below him in the mail room he is jealous of jimmy for having charisma
I think he did that more out of love for his mother rather than love for his brother. Cause his mom called him about it.
And the job feels more like a way to keep him out of trouble so he doesn't have to worry about him anymore.
Not that keeping him out of trouble is a bad thing but it doesn't mean he's doing it out of love. Just feels like he's doing it more for his own sake/sanity.
I'm not saying it couldn't have been out of love nor am i saying Chuck doesn't love Jimmy but i definitely don't think those actions confirm his love for Jimmy in any way.
@@dermathze700 well yeah most people do and i think based on later events and what he is trying to get out of this there is some love
@@Matthew-uh9id thats the thing i do think he believed in him atleast a little bit because early on when jimmy fakes the billboard thing jimmy trys to play it off as chucks advice that he gave jimmy working (the advice sounded pretty fair) so i think jimmy said it best hes a "square pegg"
But why would Chuck want to help Jimmy? Jimmy caused his father's death, wasn't there when their mom passed, been to prison multiple times, and is straight up a criminal. Chuck is a petty bastard, but he is still the good guy and has reason to doubt Jimmy when he tells Chuck he is going straight. I woulnd't hire Jimmy for my firm, even if he was family. Chuck is a hatefull "good guy", and Jimmy is a sympathetic criminal.
This was brilliant "hateful good guy is Chuck and a compassionate criminal is jimmy" 👏
Chuck is an awful human being.
And so is jimmy.
@@flamefusion8963nah, not as bad as Chuck, not yet. Anyway. But he was always sensible even BB. Looked other way.. If Chuck wasn’t the way he was… maybe he doesn’t do certain things for right reasons and turn into who he ends up. Even though it’s not quite breaking bad as Walt did.
Eric, no one is rooting for Chuck
Stop picking your nose. We all see. Every time.
Who are you even referring to?
His body his choice.
@@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827 🤷🏻♂️ don’t do it on camera and disgust ppl then.