You should always expect that the car in front of you stops, stalls, crashes, unexpectedly turns, etc no matter what. That is why you keep your distance (depending on how fast you are) and you stay concentrated.
That's not really a thing in the rest of the world. In Germany you can easily lose your license for brake checking someone on purpose. If you stop because you ran out of gas, its still your fault for stopping unexpectedly as long as it was something that was in your control.
@@_tsu_ lmao u got a licence? If yes then you should know that ur driving instructor told u to be careful at all times and always expect what could happen💀what do u think why we learn to keep distance from the car in front💀 even if its not your fault, u really wanna get in a car crash bc u were driving too close to the person in front of u and didnt react fast enough to break? Damn..
@@taonare it's literally illegal. What part of this are you not understanding? You should be driving a safe distance but breaking unexpectedly is a crime. And yes, i have a license.
@@_tsu_ obviously suddenly breaking is illegal, I never said it was💀 But there could always something happen to the car in front of u that they have to suddenly stop or they start swinging, getting slow really fast bc of a traffic light that just turned red or maybe bc the street is wet, its foggy and there is a traffic jam right in front they couldnt see before.. I never said it was legal😂
@_tsu_ when a child runs out infront of the car ahead of you and they have to brake, it'll be the child's death on your hands when you ram the car from the back, pushing it into the child all because you wouldn't follow at a safe distance
This is how every light works. When there is a green for the north south direction, there is a red light for the east-west direction. I hope this makes sense. Now if you come from s, (and have a green light) and turn into the e-w road, it's always gonna be red. Maybe the confusion from Americans comes, cause Europeans have 2 sets of lights facing you, one at the beginning and one at the end of the intersection. Where as I see a lot of american only have one light near you, and not one in the other side of the intersection. This makes it easier to see the light, cause you can still see it after you entered the intersection. This however also makes cars who are turning able to see it, even though it doesn't apply to you. If you stop at that red light, it's basically just taking a turn, then stopping in the middle of the intersection before the pedestrian crossing.
if it does not have a solid yellow line or solid white line or are faded they cannot issue you with a ticket and if you still get a ticket anyway go to court and dispute it a lot of people pay because they get scared go back to the place where the ticket was issued and take pictures of no solid white line or faded and you will win the case.... whatever you do if you do get a ticket through the door... letter do not sign it because as you sign it you're admitting you was driverit's the car its... down to them to prove you were driving that car and if they can't I can't issue with a ticket or fine
In the UK, you stop at stop lines. Lights are directed to one stop line only. Those lights are directed to the main flow of traffic, not the turn-in, so the turning cars don't stop at them. Yes, it is confusing and makes no sense.
It's a terrible traffic light placement - the traffic light is supposed to be for the vehicles coming in from the left side that you can see at the start of the video, and going straight. Unfortunately, it's placed in such a way that someone who is allowed to go down that path from a different direction *also* sees it. PS: Obviously don't live in the UK, wouldn't know this was a thing there without this video, but that's how I assume it's supposed to work. Still bad design.
@@TricksterRad you're right it's terrible placement, and what makes it worse is that theres a crossing there too which could easily confuse drivers into thinking the light is red to allow pedestrians to cross 🤦🏽♂️
But the light was green for her to proceed. The red is for the cars in the main lane. It works the same in Japan (left hand side too). When you turn, you ignore the red as long as it was green for you before you turned at intersections/junctions.
@@infinity002 i keep toilet paper in the fishtank incase I run out in the middle of the night, I drink a pint of milk before I make a bowl of cereal incase I forget to put it in the bowl and I also think this red light is usefull, cleverfull and amazingfull.
Bro, UK roads do look like a nightmare. I'm glad I live in America because when you come to an intersection, one side is stopped while the other side can go freely
You have no roundabouts and you can get your license from a cereal box 😂 I’d rather stay here where I will only occasionally deal with an awkward junction like this 😂
Right angle junctions only - no wonder you find a slightly off junction confusing. Bet you can’t drive a manual gearbox either cause that’s too confusing
Or when you’re supposed to be getting up to speed, I’m sure the people behind aren’t expecting a full stop and its def not their fault for crashing into you IF YOU STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. You sound like you break check people for fun 🤢
This is a perfect example of defensive driving. Thinking about what could happen and altering your driving to avoid the accident regardless of who’s fault it might be.
@@zikkrealnot only are there no lines guiding people in these terrible Brit roads, but there are also pointless stop lights like the one in the video. Just admit British roads are absolute fucking dogshit
@@zikkrealI have friend's in the US.and When they came over the one thing they said was " shit! You guys are like professional driver's with these tiny road's going 30-30.. everytime we travelled on q country road and passed another car they kept flinching! 😂
It's for those who were on the left side of T junction. Remember when our side of light turn green? The car on the left side of T junction stop immediately. Why? Because they saw what we saw when we turn to the right which is the red light.
@@Postghost Yeah. It has something to do with the divider. If you pay attention on the divider of all over the world, the traffic light mostly were put at the end of the divider, so in that video, it happen to be far back. Basically, you barely won't see it the light of traffic light every turn on intersection because it was way above your view when you take a turn.
Coming off the a66 into the back end of thornaby there is literally one of these lights. Seen so many idiots sat in the middle of the junction waiting for it to go green.
As a Canadian driver, I dont understand who that light immediately after the turn is for and I wouldve stopped just like Erin. Edit: I understand how it works now, no need for further explanations, lol. I guess my issue with it at this point is having 2 sets of lights for the same "lane" seems redundant. That being said though, since seeing this I have noticed double lights in several places locally as well (central canada) which I never had before.
at the start of the video you see the cars on the far side of the junction that are moving but then stop that light is for them we often put 2 sets of lights 1 set right by where you stop with a second set at the other side of the junction so if you cant see the lights next to you for whatever reason you can see the ones at the far end because of the staggered nature of that junction though it can confuse people who arnt expecting it infact if you look at the start you can see her set oif secondary lights at the far side too and if you look at the lights to her right you get a example of how sometimes you cannot see the near lights
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@Sarge92 so for the first set of lights (the ones that would be right where you stop) is there not a stop line for drivers to know where to stop and still be able to see the lights?
@Carston 101 where the red car in my little diagram is stopped its at the line which is clearly marked. There is also a traffic light on the side of the road next to that line but where its on the left (unless there is one on an island in the middle to our right) can usually be hard to see so the distance one is easy to see really
@danielmarrin1578 ah ok. If the close one is hard to see and people often use the far one, then it would make sense to me to either move the stop line back a bit or move the light a bit further in front of the stop line, and then eliminate the far light entirely. But maybe that's just because that's the system I'm used to using.
I understand the principle of the repeat signal as I am in UK, but it should be closer to the junction at the beginning of the hash marks. Also putting it at a pedestrian crossing makes it very confusing and anything that causes confusion especially at a busy junction is a bad design. You have too many other things to concentrate on so any signal that is not obvious to everyone is dangerous.
@SoniaG K it's hard to explain if you're not familiar with uk roads but I will try my best. Here is a cross roads, traffic coming in all directions is being controlled by traffic lights, she was given the green light and able to make a right turn. That traffic light that was red was for the traffic originally in front of her on the left as a duplicate light- and that's the important part. That traffic light is a duplicate so there is another set of red lights prior with a solid white line telling those cars to wait there. If someone is waiting right on that line it may be hard to see when the light turns greens so often a duplicate light is placed somewhere the front of the queue can see it. This video is a particularly confusing one due to the council deciding to put a cross walk over a duplicate light on a cross road. Very silly. I hope that made sense however!
@@witchee3041 So the light to turn right is also the light to go through the crosswalk? And the red light is the same red light from before to stop traffic from advancing through this driver's green? This seems like a dangerous crosswalk and an obnoxious spot for a road test.
Yes, it’s dangerous. But the pedestrian lights are synchronised with those at the T junction. Because the distance between traffic joining the road at the T junction and the pedestrian lights (shops snd bus stops) is so short, that traffic doesn’t stop to avoid crashes and to aid traffic flow. It is highly confusing which is why it’s essential to drive as if it’s a job you’re being measured on!
Makes much more sense when you explained about that line. Appreciate that tip. I’ll be looking more for whether that line does/doesn’t exist at traffic lights I encounter.
Move the damn red closer to where the folks going straight are stopped? That’s what every other place does, right? Why would the lights be so awkwardly positioned?
It is, there’s two sets of lights, one near the solid line and one usually about 30-40 yards away. I still have absolutely no idea why there are two sets of lights though.
I bet the intersection she's driving through has been expanded at some point and it encroached on a pedestrian crossing and instead of moving it they did this.
My teacher never explained this to me and I ended up failing my otherwise perfect test because of this exact situation. Not only that but a pedestrian crossed just before and that made me think the light was for pedestrians, exactly like the girl in the original video. UK red lights and corkscrew roundabouts are a nightmare.
@@florian1320 You can't have a dedicated turning lane for EVERY single intersection that has traffic lights. There's no space for that. Being able to turn right on red is a very good decision. If they don't want you to turn right on red, then there will be a sign there to say don't.
@@florian1320 What do you mean no dedicated turning lanes? There are dedicated turning lanes for left turns and right turns in the US for the majority of traffic lights.
This makes sense now, i think the problem is that the traffic light is too far, and the intersection should be marked properly like with yelloe box or something. Usually, in my country, the light meant for the other side is usually directly at the end of the island to the intersection, not in the middle of the road 50m after the end of the intersection.
Agree to far in there is always lights at oposing lights and agree quth what she says but those lights too fqr in for pedeetrians to cross so should apply
Red lights are NOT suggestions. That red light does not apply to that traffic. It’d be like you stopping because a turn lanes light went red and you were going straight on
Having driven on UK roads for 20 years, I've never seen a crossing so far away from a junction like this. I would probably stop for the red also regardless of the no solid line. It's a pedestrian crossing, sooner someone hit my rear than mow down a pedestrian because of awful junction design.
OoooEe !! It's kind of a pain in the brain trying to learn how to drive in the UK especially if you're a manual transmission driver like myself ! We from the Moon ! We control our vehicles with our minds lol
The people coming from the left (the people who are travelling in the direction of the traffic light) it’s because sometimes if you get close to the stop line you can no longer see the original traffic lights anymore so they build one far away so you can see that instead of craning your neck
While I totally understand what she says I’m always astonished by the “you should be careful they do not expect you to stop there”, that is what security distances are maid for, to have time to stop, in case something goes wrong
A normal person wouldn’t be expecting you to stop, yes they should be far enough back just in case you do. However damage mitigation and defensive driving comes into play
@@hausmaster9801 That’s the problem, you’re not supposed to expect someone’s driving, you’re supposed to be able to stop if necessary, therefore you have distances between you and the car in front of you I have been crashed into once, and the lady told me she wasn’t expecting me to stop, the reality was that she was too close, in the dark, and she didn’t watch my driving but thought I would drive like her, badly A lot of mistakes made by new drivers are most probably made cause of the reckless driving of older drivers, which is a real problem
That red light is for the traffic already waiting behind as you turned right going straight but still Erin had a pedestrian already crossing and from what I see the roadworks (possible temporary lights ahead) it would be a easy mistake x
I understand this is the UK so very different. But your so calm and understanding teaching the people that I wish you could come to America and help our own driving teachers.
@@pokiigames4167 but they have their own stop lights right next to the stop line. why would they have a stop light 100 paces from where they’re supposed to stop
Some crossroads and junctions have a pair of lights, one at the stop line and one the other side, it's just these lights are pretty far back so they might be confused as something seperate.
@@HondaRedWhiteAndBlue So those at the front of the queue of the traffic can see the lights clearly. Sometimes if you stop very close to the stop line you can sfruggle to see the lights unless there's another set of lights ahead. What should really happen is there should be a bigger distance between the first set lights and the stop line therefore negating the need for a second set of lights. It's very unusual for a second set of lights to be that far back
@@HondaRedWhiteAndBlue if you look there are 2 lanes there and the lights that are close are on the left hand side. So if there was a big bus in the left lane when it’s red and you were in the right lane, you wouldn’t be able to see those lights, hence why the ones further forward are required.
Wow. I go around Asda almost every day and never knew that if there isn't a solid line I didn't have to stop. I always come from the other way but learned something new. Thanks.
realistically doesn’t matter if he would be expecting you to stop. he’s following to close. and courts would probably fight Erin was yielding for the pedestrian. i’m hoping this makes sense. any thoughts? or do i just sound stupid
@@d.collective1670 fair enough. my apologies. i’m from the states. and where i’m from, i’ve never seen one of these. so i honestly don’t know how it works. thanks for letting me know though. much appreciated!!!
Omg it just so different over there I'm so glad you clarified that because I've been confused since that one video with red light. Wow so different there!
@@gid2103if there was a solid line marking painted on the road in front if the traffic light it would mean you have to stop. There isn't (it's further back for the drivers who the red light is for) a bit confusing though.
This Red light reminds me of a quote I read: "Cemeteries are full of people who had the right of way" Edit: that Red light should be placed near the cars to the left then put a stop line way behind it so that they can clearly see it.
The council in my town just added one similar beside our train station. It's a really dumb design as it green for pedestrians to cross but cars aren't allowed to stop.
The fact that the line not beeing there makes a difference in the UK is scary, because it does not in many other counties. In Germany even if the line is missing, you have to stop, when there is a red light directly next to your lane. It’s not common, but it happens and it makes sense, especially because we have snow in Germany in the winter ^^
I just remembered the online test that has solid line and a traffic, the way it work is only stop when it got the solid line but since if it doesn’t have it, you can pass through
To be honest the clear solid line tip is good. I would have gone because of the light being higher up and also it being a turning like that it just felt obvious considering you’d be effectively in the middle of the road otherwise.
The more I watch this lady’s videos, the more confident I am with Indians. Not too many rules, hardly any stupid drivers we have… 😂 traffic doesn’t halt even without signals on squares
OHHH i finally get what the problem was. The traffic light placement is way too confusing, but I have a similar traffic light in a controlled crossroads in my area which always freaks me out when I see my parents drive through its red light. Over time I realised that wasn’t for them but for the people coming from the left but man
I thank you so much for pointing this out. I drive in london, around putney, brixton. I have come across this, and I have wondered about this. It has made me question before if I have gone over a red light, but this video confirms I have done it all correctly. However, there are some roundabouts on 316 towards london just off M3 that have a solid white line, so now I know on those ones I need to stop if red.
In UK people really care about other drivers but in India nobody cares about nobody we just keep driving and nobody gets hurt in fact many doesn't have DL😂
Honestly, this video makes it all make sense now. Starting that other clip just right at the light was a little confusing. Some parts of Manhattan have that white line thing you talk about. For example look around Park Ave from 44th street and going up - going up or down park ave and trying to make a turn onto let’s say 49th street, you’d be required to stop at the white line that is in the middle of the intersection instead of being able to go thru even if there’s no traffic
I did something like this learning to drive, I had a green light turning left, got going see the red for the cross street, panicked and stop. fortunately, no accident happened,
Uk roads look like a nightmare.
They're. Sometimes you get sneaky cameras hidden between trees
At least it's safe in India it's a whole different story 😂
The nightmare is the oblivious people who use them
The potholes are the biggest danger the corrupt councils do nothing to fix them.
Come to latam some roads are survival of the fittest
This is a very stupid solution for whatever they did it for.
Basic uk
Road planning at its finest
Pretty common and expected
Indeed!
Literally for the cars on the left of the road before the junction
You should always expect that the car in front of you stops, stalls, crashes, unexpectedly turns, etc no matter what. That is why you keep your distance (depending on how fast you are) and you stay concentrated.
That's not really a thing in the rest of the world. In Germany you can easily lose your license for brake checking someone on purpose. If you stop because you ran out of gas, its still your fault for stopping unexpectedly as long as it was something that was in your control.
@@_tsu_ lmao u got a licence? If yes then you should know that ur driving instructor told u to be careful at all times and always expect what could happen💀what do u think why we learn to keep distance from the car in front💀 even if its not your fault, u really wanna get in a car crash bc u were driving too close to the person in front of u and didnt react fast enough to break? Damn..
@@taonare it's literally illegal. What part of this are you not understanding? You should be driving a safe distance but breaking unexpectedly is a crime. And yes, i have a license.
@@_tsu_ obviously suddenly breaking is illegal, I never said it was💀 But there could always something happen to the car in front of u that they have to suddenly stop or they start swinging, getting slow really fast bc of a traffic light that just turned red or maybe bc the street is wet, its foggy and there is a traffic jam right in front they couldnt see before..
I never said it was legal😂
@_tsu_ when a child runs out infront of the car ahead of you and they have to brake, it'll be the child's death on your hands when you ram the car from the back, pushing it into the child all because you wouldn't follow at a safe distance
This is a beginner driver’s worst nightmare
This is how every light works.
When there is a green for the north south direction, there is a red light for the east-west direction. I hope this makes sense.
Now if you come from s, (and have a green light) and turn into the e-w road, it's always gonna be red.
Maybe the confusion from Americans comes, cause Europeans have 2 sets of lights facing you, one at the beginning and one at the end of the intersection. Where as I see a lot of american only have one light near you, and not one in the other side of the intersection.
This makes it easier to see the light, cause you can still see it after you entered the intersection. This however also makes cars who are turning able to see it, even though it doesn't apply to you.
If you stop at that red light, it's basically just taking a turn, then stopping in the middle of the intersection before the pedestrian crossing.
When the council let the lines fade and you end up with a ticket 😢
God this country's gone to the dogs
And don't even get me started with all the chunks missing out of roads that no one wants to fill in all over the place
The only thing fading is my hairline 😢
@@Ankush-bl4ru my future in driving is fading
if it does not have a solid yellow line or solid white line or are faded they cannot issue you with a ticket and if you still get a ticket anyway go to court and dispute it a lot of people pay because they get scared go back to the place where the ticket was issued and take pictures of no solid white line or faded and you will win the case.... whatever you do if you do get a ticket through the door... letter do not sign it because as you sign it you're admitting you was driverit's the car its... down to them to prove you were driving that car and if they can't I can't issue with a ticket or fine
Bro uk roads are what I imagined driving as a minor would be like💀
This is the best explanation
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Difference is driving as a minor is not like that coming from a minor driving without a learners license/drivers license
Wtf is a minor???
@@friedeggnchips4095 someone under 18
Thanks for explaining, I still have no idea what's going on here..
Same
Same. There's nothing clear on what she says.
She ent a very good driver
In the UK, you stop at stop lines. Lights are directed to one stop line only. Those lights are directed to the main flow of traffic, not the turn-in, so the turning cars don't stop at them. Yes, it is confusing and makes no sense.
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I’m Canadian. And now I’m thankful for that.
Ahahaahahahahhahaha 😂😂😂
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Even with the insane quantity of potholes in Ottawa/Gatineau, i’ll take it over whatever insanity this is 😅
This shouldn't exist. Red is red, green is green. They should have it be stuck on amber for situations like this.
It's a terrible traffic light placement - the traffic light is supposed to be for the vehicles coming in from the left side that you can see at the start of the video, and going straight. Unfortunately, it's placed in such a way that someone who is allowed to go down that path from a different direction *also* sees it.
PS: Obviously don't live in the UK, wouldn't know this was a thing there without this video, but that's how I assume it's supposed to work. Still bad design.
Math is Math
@@TricksterRad you're right it's terrible placement, and what makes it worse is that theres a crossing there too which could easily confuse drivers into thinking the light is red to allow pedestrians to cross 🤦🏽♂️
But the light was green for her to proceed. The red is for the cars in the main lane. It works the same in Japan (left hand side too). When you turn, you ignore the red as long as it was green for you before you turned at intersections/junctions.
@@thegrandpoketour just becuase *you* already know it works like that does not make it good design... It's terrible design, shouldn't be a thing.
If you think your life is meaningless, remember about this traffic light...
It does have purpose. It stopped all the cars coming from the left so that people coming from the north can go.
Huh? It's very usefull given its stopping the traffic towards the left of the car
@@infinity002 i keep toilet paper in the fishtank incase I run out in the middle of the night, I drink a pint of milk before I make a bowl of cereal incase I forget to put it in the bowl and I also think this red light is usefull, cleverfull and amazingfull.
@@infinity002 yeah? Move it closer then, it’s way to far from them cars, remove it position it better
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"The light is red but that doesnt apply to me" explains stockton drivers
Bro, UK roads do look like a nightmare. I'm glad I live in America because when you come to an intersection, one side is stopped while the other side can go freely
You have no roundabouts and you can get your license from a cereal box 😂
I’d rather stay here where I will only occasionally deal with an awkward junction like this 😂
Right angle junctions only - no wonder you find a slightly off junction confusing. Bet you can’t drive a manual gearbox either cause that’s too confusing
@hausmaster9801 I do know how to drive one. It's not hard to learn
@connoroneill9406 We do have roundabouts, but they are not that common in America
Tbh...this really seems like a problem that any non-UK might end up in fatal situation with, the lack of roundabouts is not that big deal!!!
If they do not expect a stop, and crash into you, they are following way to close and unconcentrated
Edit: almost 1k people liked it, thanks guys!
Yep. This exactly
Yep exactly what I thought should be the fault of the van if they ran into the back of you
@@ryanliv8332 doesnt matter whos at fault, at the end of the day its still your problem
Or when you’re supposed to be getting up to speed, I’m sure the people behind aren’t expecting a full stop and its def not their fault for crashing into you IF YOU STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. You sound like you break check people for fun 🤢
This is a perfect example of defensive driving. Thinking about what could happen and altering your driving to avoid the accident regardless of who’s fault it might be.
In the US, you stop at red lights, and drive through green lights. It's as simple as that.
This is complicated to people in US?
@@zikkrealThey’re stupid over there of course it’s complicated for them. 90% of Americans can’t drive manual cars for goodness sakes
@@zikkrealnot only are there no lines guiding people in these terrible Brit roads, but there are also pointless stop lights like the one in the video. Just admit British roads are absolute fucking dogshit
@@zikkrealI have friend's in the US.and When they came over the one thing they said was " shit! You guys are like professional driver's with these tiny road's going 30-30.. everytime we travelled on q country road and passed another car they kept flinching! 😂
US = GUNS THAT KILL PEOPLE
UK = NO GUNS, VERY FEW GUN related deaths
Don't talk us about simplicity lol
These roads are absolute nightmare fuel dude wow
I've just warched this like 5 times and I still don't know who that light is for and why it exists.
Good question 👍
It's for those who were on the left side of T junction. Remember when our side of light turn green? The car on the left side of T junction stop immediately. Why? Because they saw what we saw when we turn to the right which is the red light.
@@deenszxking6818 Thank you. I think I understand it LESS now.
@@Postghost Yeah. It has something to do with the divider. If you pay attention on the divider of all over the world, the traffic light mostly were put at the end of the divider, so in that video, it happen to be far back. Basically, you barely won't see it the light of traffic light every turn on intersection because it was way above your view when you take a turn.
@@deenszxking6818thanks now it make sense she had the first green light the red applies to those coming straight from the left.
Those lights are a nightmare.
If it was Middlesbrough, the locals would have uprooted those lights the day after they were put in.
Come on Boro
Our lights don't work
Rightly so
Coming off the a66 into the back end of thornaby there is literally one of these lights. Seen so many idiots sat in the middle of the junction waiting for it to go green.
Yes and a few drivers would be injured and a pedestrian or two squashed. But you’re from Middlesbrough. Poor you.
"...no solid lines [across], so that does not apply to me ..." The beauty of not being in a snowy country
Lol fr, anyone else would naturally think that light is for them
I have a junction, just like this near my house. It’s amazing how many cars I see stop at the red light when they are turning right.
As a Canadian driver, I dont understand who that light immediately after the turn is for and I wouldve stopped just like Erin.
Edit: I understand how it works now, no need for further explanations, lol. I guess my issue with it at this point is having 2 sets of lights for the same "lane" seems redundant. That being said though, since seeing this I have noticed double lights in several places locally as well (central canada) which I never had before.
at the start of the video you see the cars on the far side of the junction that are moving but then stop that light is for them we often put 2 sets of lights 1 set right by where you stop with a second set at the other side of the junction so if you cant see the lights next to you for whatever reason you can see the ones at the far end
because of the staggered nature of that junction though it can confuse people who arnt expecting it
infact if you look at the start you can see her set oif secondary lights at the far side too
and if you look at the lights to her right you get a example of how sometimes you cannot see the near lights
Its for the main stretch of road that she turned on to. So it's technically for the cars behind her but not the ones who are following from her green light
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@Sarge92 so for the first set of lights (the ones that would be right where you stop) is there not a stop line for drivers to know where to stop and still be able to see the lights?
@Carston 101 where the red car in my little diagram is stopped its at the line which is clearly marked. There is also a traffic light on the side of the road next to that line but where its on the left (unless there is one on an island in the middle to our right) can usually be hard to see so the distance one is easy to see really
@danielmarrin1578 ah ok. If the close one is hard to see and people often use the far one, then it would make sense to me to either move the stop line back a bit or move the light a bit further in front of the stop line, and then eliminate the far light entirely.
But maybe that's just because that's the system I'm used to using.
I understand the principle of the repeat signal as I am in UK, but it should be closer to the junction at the beginning of the hash marks. Also putting it at a pedestrian crossing makes it very confusing and anything that causes confusion especially at a busy junction is a bad design. You have too many other things to concentrate on so any signal that is not obvious to everyone is dangerous.
Yep everything you've said here is spot on
Really.... you don't need to stop on clear Red light if it is not solid white line ... Really???? can anyone explain
@SoniaG K it's hard to explain if you're not familiar with uk roads but I will try my best. Here is a cross roads, traffic coming in all directions is being controlled by traffic lights, she was given the green light and able to make a right turn. That traffic light that was red was for the traffic originally in front of her on the left as a duplicate light- and that's the important part. That traffic light is a duplicate so there is another set of red lights prior with a solid white line telling those cars to wait there. If someone is waiting right on that line it may be hard to see when the light turns greens so often a duplicate light is placed somewhere the front of the queue can see it. This video is a particularly confusing one due to the council deciding to put a cross walk over a duplicate light on a cross road. Very silly. I hope that made sense however!
@@witchee3041 So the light to turn right is also the light to go through the crosswalk? And the red light is the same red light from before to stop traffic from advancing through this driver's green? This seems like a dangerous crosswalk and an obnoxious spot for a road test.
Yes, it’s dangerous. But the pedestrian lights are synchronised with those at the T junction. Because the distance between traffic joining the road at the T junction and the pedestrian lights (shops snd bus stops) is so short, that traffic doesn’t stop to avoid crashes and to aid traffic flow. It is highly confusing which is why it’s essential to drive as if it’s a job you’re being measured on!
Makes much more sense when you explained about that line. Appreciate that tip. I’ll be looking more for whether that line does/doesn’t exist at traffic lights I encounter.
If I was driving in the UK I would break every single law😂😂😂
As an American, those roads look so confusing.
As anyone from anywhere, honey. You're not alone in your lovely America.
Move the damn red closer to where the folks going straight are stopped? That’s what every other place does, right? Why would the lights be so awkwardly positioned?
It is, there’s two sets of lights, one near the solid line and one usually about 30-40 yards away.
I still have absolutely no idea why there are two sets of lights though.
I bet the intersection she's driving through has been expanded at some point and it encroached on a pedestrian crossing and instead of moving it they did this.
My teacher never explained this to me and I ended up failing my otherwise perfect test because of this exact situation. Not only that but a pedestrian crossed just before and that made me think the light was for pedestrians, exactly like the girl in the original video. UK red lights and corkscrew roundabouts are a nightmare.
Should have read your Highway Code better then
All I learned is “red light no apply cause no white line” 👍🏼
Same. 😅
In America, the light is green so you know to go
😂
You can go right on a red. That is stupid design to. Also no dedicated turning lanes.
@@florian1320 no turning on red is an easy way to reduce congestion behind a red light, it literally works just like a stop sign.
@@florian1320 You can't have a dedicated turning lane for EVERY single intersection that has traffic lights. There's no space for that. Being able to turn right on red is a very good decision. If they don't want you to turn right on red, then there will be a sign there to say don't.
@@florian1320 What do you mean no dedicated turning lanes? There are dedicated turning lanes for left turns and right turns in the US for the majority of traffic lights.
At Least They've Got The Hospital Right Next To That Suicide Junction 💯😂
But the hospital doesn't have an A&E 😂
Why Is Every Word In Your Comment Capitalised
@@CristianoUK how tf you notice that lol 🤣
@@chargey9117 Because they can read
@@workonfirei didn't even notice until they pointed it out so ur comment is redundant
In Germany, most drivers keep an extra distance from learner drivers because you never know what kind of crap they'll do next time. 😅
My dumbass would probably stop and wait 💀
This makes sense now, i think the problem is that the traffic light is too far, and the intersection should be marked properly like with yelloe box or something.
Usually, in my country, the light meant for the other side is usually directly at the end of the island to the intersection, not in the middle of the road 50m after the end of the intersection.
Agree to far in there is always lights at oposing lights and agree quth what she says but those lights too fqr in for pedeetrians to cross so should apply
Note to self, in UK red lights are more of a suggestion
I'd never pass the driving test in the UK that's for sure. Props to the drivers in the UK though.
Also, if the cars behind don't expect you to stop, pass that red light
Red lights are NOT suggestions. That red light does not apply to that traffic.
It’d be like you stopping because a turn lanes light went red and you were going straight on
@@-A-09haha most drivers in the UK are actual ass at driving though. Too much leeway
@@-A-09if i was in America i would have passed years ago😭😭roads here give me so much anxiety i take lessons for a bit and then stop
The van should still expect you to stop at any time, hence safe distance.
I’ve been driving for 8 years, I would absolutely stop at that red light.
Having driven on UK roads for 20 years, I've never seen a crossing so far away from a junction like this. I would probably stop for the red also regardless of the no solid line. It's a pedestrian crossing, sooner someone hit my rear than mow down a pedestrian because of awful junction design.
Was thinking the same, like what you ment to do if a pedestrian was walking across the road if the red light isnt ment for you
You haven’t gone to many places in the UK then
@@hausmaster9801 I've been to a few.
I think I just changed my mind about driving in the UK…
OoooEe !!
It's kind of a pain in the brain trying to learn how to drive in the UK especially if you're a manual transmission driver like myself !
We from the Moon !
We control our vehicles with our minds lol
Damn straight holding down that clutch
Who the hell does that aply to?
it applies to the traffic moving to the right at the start of the video.
The people coming from the left (the people who are travelling in the direction of the traffic light) it’s because sometimes if you get close to the stop line you can no longer see the original traffic lights anymore so they build one far away so you can see that instead of craning your neck
@@Tom-pe4iw why isnt it facing them then?
@@yungmystery6947 it quite clearly is pointed right at them. The people turning right from the left are the ones that follow that light
Cars on the other side of the country
I got my license 🪪 suspended because of this bullsh*t
Love this lady
This would catch me out to be fair. Glad to have occasional videos that show things like this that are important to know, but not obvious :)
While I totally understand what she says I’m always astonished by the “you should be careful they do not expect you to stop there”, that is what security distances are maid for, to have time to stop, in case something goes wrong
UK liberal thinking finds faults with victims. Is a cancerous way of thinking that is becoming ever so prevalent.
A normal person wouldn’t be expecting you to stop, yes they should be far enough back just in case you do. However damage mitigation and defensive driving comes into play
@@hausmaster9801 That’s the problem, you’re not supposed to expect someone’s driving, you’re supposed to be able to stop if necessary, therefore you have distances between you and the car in front of you
I have been crashed into once, and the lady told me she wasn’t expecting me to stop, the reality was that she was too close, in the dark, and she didn’t watch my driving but thought I would drive like her, badly
A lot of mistakes made by new drivers are most probably made cause of the reckless driving of older drivers, which is a real problem
Awesome this is very helpful indeed 😊
these roads look hella complicated the hell i wouldn’t even know where to turn
Not the zenitsu cosplayer walking across the zebra crossing 😭
That red light is for the traffic already waiting behind as you turned right going straight but still Erin had a pedestrian already crossing and from what I see the roadworks (possible temporary lights ahead) it would be a easy mistake x
This is why I just go through red lights
Ye lol
Yeah best to be safe and always go on red.
There is also a crossing to add to the confusion too, SUCH BRILLIANT JUNCTION DESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As someone who recently passed, I wouldn’t have known this without this video luckily on my feed 😅
Damn the subtle shade thrown at Erin like that 🤣 jk I understand its for educational not mocking anyone ❤
At suburban speeds (zero to 30pm), if a driver behind crashed into you because you stopped for any reason, they would be very negligent indeed.
In my best Michael Caine voice, "not a alotta people know that" 😂😂😂❤
I like how there's a perfectly reasonable spot for a light and instead they put it 12 car lengths ahead next to a crosswalk.
Such dumb design 🤣
got it, will run red lights from now on to avoid getting hit, thanks✨
Thanks for the info
No, no, no, no, you have a terrible stop lights, they need to go in the "bin" 😂 sorry sorry, I like the word bin, amazing 😂😂
As a brit i can confirm our roads are so weird. Its like they got an epileptic to draw a town layout whilst at a rave 😂
I understand this is the UK so very different. But your so calm and understanding teaching the people that I wish you could come to America and help our own driving teachers.
God no
I’m never complaining about the roads in my country after watching this 😂
That is hella confusing but with the lines it helps
Who is this light for?
It's for the traffic that is moving at the start of the clip :)
@@pokiigames4167 but they have their own stop lights right next to the stop line. why would they have a stop light 100 paces from where they’re supposed to stop
Some crossroads and junctions have a pair of lights, one at the stop line and one the other side, it's just these lights are pretty far back so they might be confused as something seperate.
@@HondaRedWhiteAndBlue So those at the front of the queue of the traffic can see the lights clearly. Sometimes if you stop very close to the stop line you can sfruggle to see the lights unless there's another set of lights ahead. What should really happen is there should be a bigger distance between the first set lights and the stop line therefore negating the need for a second set of lights. It's very unusual for a second set of lights to be that far back
@@HondaRedWhiteAndBlue if you look there are 2 lanes there and the lights that are close are on the left hand side. So if there was a big bus in the left lane when it’s red and you were in the right lane, you wouldn’t be able to see those lights, hence why the ones further forward are required.
Wow. I go around Asda almost every day and never knew that if there isn't a solid line I didn't have to stop. I always come from the other way but learned something new. Thanks.
If you’re worried about the car behind you then they are following too close. As a driver instructor you should know this.
realistically doesn’t matter if he would be expecting you to stop. he’s following to close. and courts would probably fight Erin was yielding for the pedestrian. i’m hoping this makes sense. any thoughts? or do i just sound stupid
American?
In this case u sound stupid but I don’t think u are from the UK so it’s alright, u don’t stop for pedestrians at a green light
@@pratikpatil6160 yeah i am man. does this make sense though? i assume things may be different in other places?
You're right, insurer would side with you, but this is a driving instructor. if you stopped on your test you would fail.
@@d.collective1670 fair enough. my apologies. i’m from the states. and where i’m from, i’ve never seen one of these. so i honestly don’t know how it works. thanks for letting me know though. much appreciated!!!
Another thing, that traffic light seems quite high so the vehicles it applies to can see it, when you go round it's hard to see.
Omg it just so different over there I'm so glad you clarified that because I've been confused since that one video with red light. Wow so different there!
Oh wow. I never knew about the solid white line. Thank you.
What about it, I still don't understand
@@gid2103if there was a solid line marking painted on the road in front if the traffic light it would mean you have to stop. There isn't (it's further back for the drivers who the red light is for) a bit confusing though.
This Red light reminds me of a quote I read:
"Cemeteries are full of people who had the right of way"
Edit: that Red light should be placed near the cars to the left then put a stop line way behind it so that they can clearly see it.
I did this I stopped on those second lights it was really scary however watching this glad I was not the only one made me feel a bit better.
The council in my town just added one similar beside our train station. It's a really dumb design as it green for pedestrians to cross but cars aren't allowed to stop.
Thank you so much, I have always been so confused at lights like this, this is so helpful
Petition to move that traffic light
This is very touching!
The fact that the line not beeing there makes a difference in the UK is scary, because it does not in many other counties.
In Germany even if the line is missing, you have to stop, when there is a red light directly next to your lane.
It’s not common, but it happens and it makes sense, especially because we have snow in Germany in the winter ^^
“If they do not expect a stop “
Proceeds to drive through red light
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thank you so much for the explanation
Love your voice it’s just so your voice 😂 ❤❤❤
I just remembered the online test that has solid line and a traffic, the way it work is only stop when it got the solid line but since if it doesn’t have it, you can pass through
I thought Michigan roads were bad but this takes the cake
To be honest the clear solid line tip is good. I would have gone because of the light being higher up and also it being a turning like that it just felt obvious considering you’d be effectively in the middle of the road otherwise.
Americans driving past every stop line: "what line?"
That road is like a random dream where u have no idea what’s happening but it’s happening and somehow works out.
works great in a country where half the solid lines wore off 10 years ago!
The more I watch this lady’s videos, the more confident I am with Indians. Not too many rules, hardly any stupid drivers we have… 😂 traffic doesn’t halt even without signals on squares
OHHH i finally get what the problem was. The traffic light placement is way too confusing, but I have a similar traffic light in a controlled crossroads in my area which always freaks me out when I see my parents drive through its red light. Over time I realised that wasn’t for them but for the people coming from the left but man
I thank you so much for pointing this out. I drive in london, around putney, brixton. I have come across this, and I have wondered about this. It has made me question before if I have gone over a red light, but this video confirms I have done it all correctly. However, there are some roundabouts on 316 towards london just off M3 that have a solid white line, so now I know on those ones I need to stop if red.
“Yea let’s just throw a red light in the middle of the road here that won’t confuse anybody”
😭😭
When the van behind you see your red break lights, they should expect to be stopping very soon.
Got a junction like that near me but with a solid line. You have no idea how many people don't stop.
It's a pedestrian crossing too. Super dangerous
In UK people really care about other drivers but in India nobody cares about nobody we just keep driving and nobody gets hurt in fact many doesn't have DL😂
UK 🇬🇧 And Australia 🇦🇺
Well explained and I finally understood 🙈
The narrow roads 💀, so tight
The van stopped behind...😂
Honestly, this video makes it all make sense now. Starting that other clip just right at the light was a little confusing. Some parts of Manhattan have that white line thing you talk about. For example look around Park Ave from 44th street and going up - going up or down park ave and trying to make a turn onto let’s say 49th street, you’d be required to stop at the white line that is in the middle of the intersection instead of being able to go thru even if there’s no traffic
I did something like this learning to drive, I had a green light turning left, got going see the red for the cross street, panicked and stop. fortunately, no accident happened,
Erin is the benchmark