And if Relic units are more cultist, if they needed to make a Lore that Relic its a Calamity’s Rebels that they fight against him, make the tower look more like a Cultism, not a Graveyard… And also, needs more units like, The archers turn into crossbow dealing more dmg, Necromancers that can spawn Bandits when upgrade to Overseer, the flying girls and more.
Its not even fair, ZED has 2.5k dps and 10l hp. It only costs 180k. Its not even a contest. Also the rewrok is most propably because of how buggy it is, archers/ bandits being invincible outta nowhere, Overseer spawning with only half health or less, and most of the units do not look like they came from a Graveyard, they look like cultists. The archers despite there being 8 (or 16) of them on the field will only kill at most 1 enemy per barrage unlike barracks soldiers. People also hate on It because it Is not OP and rather well balanced (They gave Warden splash, the only thing it needed TBH). Also another reason might be the units do not get a glow up at the max upgrade (rip bandid bro got replaced by Overseer). But it I think it is mainly because of the backlash it got.
I mean that's kinda doesn't makes sense because zed was only around 5750~ token, but Relic costs 19000 tokens and the thing makes relic is good is Overseer but he don't even have range,so thats normal if relic is better than zed. Also fun fact zed deals 2980 DPS with Rockets, in game the DPS on Ui only counts the main gun. Example, m1 abrams has 219 DPS because the main barrel deals 219 DPS.
That depends because if only TDX and TB are counted (since ZED in TDX is too new to be history) the statement is true but if other TD games are counted I'd put the TBZ recon base higher because of the tier 5's (bliss of finality and alien warfare)
although you could argue that these towers are not fully automated spawner towers and do not fit well in this vid , but excluding that , we could say the ghost , the commander and operator are spawner towers
The Relic have a Flying Girl just like the Calamity units but in Relic, she have a Axe and wings, that should make the Relic have a Flying enemies detection, but idk what happened why they didnt put her in Relic Units, but maybe in rework she can appear as a unit
we have to also take into account that the best grinding strat for halloween will get you the relic stupid fast if you start aat level 1, but the fastest strat for the tb event would get you zed in like, 20 hours. And that strat required three people. Relic is so much easier to get, thats probably why it is not as good as zed. It has its moments though, and its a cool looking tower.
Mert: its very fun to watch the overseers run through everything Also him 15 seconds later: its very boring to watch the overseers run through everything This part actually got me laughing idk why
I'm pretty sure the relic rework is just because the last unit, John wants him to become like a boss instead of a normal unit that crashes into enemies
Here’s my opinion on why the relic tower isn’t really good: 1. The bandits, zealots and archers are only meant for the early game, and even then, they somehow still struggle against the early game. YOU HAD ONE FRICKING JOB BRO anyways the price is pretty cheap, which is good. 2. Wardens are pretty good for the mid-game, in which it does decent chip splash damage to hordes, and has 1500 hp, making it a pretty solid unit for mid game. It can even shred an Elite Grenadier and its summons! However, it completely falls off in late game, as it’s hp is just too low for late game, and its fire rate is too slow for the fast enemies in late game. 3. Overseer is pretty good against bosses, you only need 5 of them to spawn to destroy mk 2( not accounting for the other enemies that spawn ) BUT the problem is that it can easily collide with weaker enemies, and it is countered my multipliers. For example, wave 39 made me lose an overseer cuz of some stupid multiplier 2 4. Zed is bad for early game, can be good or bad for mid game, and dominates the late game. 2 max level zeds can shred all the chargers, revived abominations and the 3 predators on wave 30 of expert mode. It can also deal good splash damage and has very high dps, especially when you have multiple of them. It wouldn’t struggle to multipliers like overseer, cuz it’s super high dps and splash damage can shred through multiplier hordes, and it doesn’t rely on its collision damage like the overseer. 5. Zed is also very good for bosses, due it its high dps. You’ll need about 10 max level zeds in total to take down mk 2, which is pretty good. It also doesn’t struggle against the other enemies, which makes it pretty good for taking down bosses. But hey, all spawners are spawners, and each of them have their good uses. After all, we should use both of them although relic wasn’t too worth the grind, and all spawners always work together. Barracks is good for its rail troopers and scout 4s for their dps, while also for its rioters, m202 troopers and flamethrowers for special damage. Armoured factory is good for its high chip dps from humvee 4 and m2 bradley, while also for its high splash damage m1 and m1X abrams. Zed is good for its fourth and max level, which dominate the late game. Relic is good for its warden which can do good crowd control in mid game, and overseer is good for single high-priority bosses. Thx for reading this comment, sorry for yapping too much
WAIT. We have the same amount of spawners with the same idea as Tower battles. Top max is TB barrack, idk what path is armor factory is related to TB version of Armour factory. ZED is TB ZED and the newer one seems awfully like the graveyard in TB
The rework (and buff) should be really simple. +PLACEMENT LIMIT BASE LEVEL (BALANCED) ARCHERS (50/75 DPS) KNIGHT (MORE DMG) WARDEN (LESS COOLDOWN, MORE DPS) NEW UNITS UNIT GLOW UPS ON WARDEN UPDATE (MORE DPS, DIFFERENT ASTHETIC, MORE SPAWNS) OVERSEER (+ RANGE, 4000 DPS)
i think its stupid because imagine the poor new players after the halloween update and they cant even use relic and its so op, they already did this with zed and commander, there isnt really anything else but yea
Lmao its soo much stronger by zed once it starts spawning that deer thing with 100k hp if it haf 150k hp it could literaly one shot eradicator which is even more broken
relic is ass for a 19k points tower thats about it the zed is better at everything else and tbh you cant even call it the 2nd strongest spawner tower because of how buggy it is they 100% rushed the relic thinking they could do a rework after release because they thought people wouldnt get relic that fast
Ngl, shame on this game. Being REALLY good at start but more grindy than tds golden towers and hardcore and just getting more and more grindy making the issue even worse and adding p2w fortnite battlepass ahh systems for sickest and modt op towers or grinding for 50 years without you making it in time and just missing out on cool towers
Barracks will always be better Because it's good for early MID and end runs And big guy with gun 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨 (Ngl Zed is better for alot of reasons sure relic has a 100k spawn for 300k money used to be 400k but you can get around 2 and a half maxed ZED and relic's DPS suck for early it just gets carried with the big boy)
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And if Relic units are more cultist, if they needed to make a Lore that Relic its a Calamity’s Rebels that they fight against him, make the tower look more like a Cultism, not a Graveyard…
And also, needs more units like, The archers turn into crossbow dealing more dmg, Necromancers that can spawn Bandits when upgrade to Overseer, the flying girls and more.
Its not even fair, ZED has 2.5k dps and 10l hp. It only costs 180k. Its not even a contest.
Also the rewrok is most propably because of how buggy it is, archers/ bandits being invincible outta nowhere, Overseer spawning with only half health or less, and most of the units do not look like they came from a Graveyard, they look like cultists. The archers despite there being 8 (or 16) of them on the field will only kill at most 1 enemy per barrage unlike barracks soldiers. People also hate on It because it Is not OP and rather well balanced (They gave Warden splash, the only thing it needed TBH). Also another reason might be the units do not get a glow up at the max upgrade (rip bandid bro got replaced by Overseer).
But it I think it is mainly because of the backlash it got.
I mean that's kinda doesn't makes sense because zed was only around 5750~ token, but Relic costs 19000 tokens and the thing makes relic is good is Overseer but he don't even have range,so thats normal if relic is better than zed. Also fun fact zed deals 2980 DPS with Rockets, in game the DPS on Ui only counts the main gun. Example, m1 abrams has 219 DPS because the main barrel deals 219 DPS.
@@Hellspawnlolz Yeah but you get Relic so much faster than ZED despite the number. The TB event gave way less tokens and it took ages to get ZED.
Relic is getting a New unit that they couldn't push out for the Release.
To be fair:
Relic spawns multiple units
100k HP
Faster spawn times
@@deoverseerseverything relic spawns other than warden is fodder, worse than 4/3 - x or x - 4/3 barracks levels of bad
Strongest spawner in history vs strongest spawner today
People who got Zed: 😃
People who Don't: 💀
That one Guy who was too lazy even though he had the best odds with his units: 🤡
That depends because if only TDX and TB are counted (since ZED in TDX is too new to be history) the statement is true but if other TD games are counted I'd put the TBZ recon base higher because of the tier 5's (bliss of finality and alien warfare)
@@nathantrusty7468that last one is me
LOL
Hear me out if you are on easy mode ofcourse you will lose you need 300k
On harder modes use relic
although you could argue that these towers are not fully automated spawner towers and do not fit well in this vid , but excluding that , we could say the ghost , the commander and operator are spawner towers
I mean, by that logic ranger is a Explosive tower
@ well then it is , even if its technically a ability it is
@@osalhewavitharana7354 alright then
Operator ability: WHY AM I NOT HERE
The title says the strongest spawner tower not spawner towers
The Relic have a Flying Girl just like the Calamity units but in Relic, she have a Axe and wings, that should make the Relic have a Flying enemies detection, but idk what happened why they didnt put her in Relic Units, but maybe in rework she can appear as a unit
we have to also take into account that the best grinding strat for halloween will get you the relic stupid fast if you start aat level 1, but the fastest strat for the tb event would get you zed in like, 20 hours. And that strat required three people. Relic is so much easier to get, thats probably why it is not as good as zed. It has its moments though, and its a cool looking tower.
its gonna get a buff with a new unit in level 4 and well get a full rework
Fun fact overseer did have a attack range but it got disabled
“Its actually so fun to watch them just run through everything” 5 seconds later: 4:55
The overseer is like a Boss
so the relic is basically our boss spawner
That sucks cause zed is now useless
Zed can still be useful on maps where the paths are close as a singularity since he will have more time to shoot the zombies
bro is still milking TDX after talking shit about it, also the event is going to end in a long time?
The event is ending sometime in December
Did you forget he’s a literal content creator? Him making some ignorant claims abt TDX dosent mean he dosent wanna make content about it lmao
Saying someone is milking a game for making content on it is insane
People can still like things they have negative feeling about, is your brain 2d?
Tbh I think the relic should get more upgrades
I agree with you
@ yeah if it’s gonna be the hardest tower to get it may as well be unique
@@Cat_lover69420 zed is harder to get lol
@@youtefhyno relic takes like 18000 tokens
@@Mrbossman-j8g and you get like 5x more tokens for winning chpt 3 nm compared to tb nm
Mert: its very fun to watch the overseers run through everything
Also him 15 seconds later: its very boring to watch the overseers run through everything
This part actually got me laughing idk why
Literally had the same thought 😭
I'm pretty sure the relic rework is just because the last unit, John wants him to become like a boss instead of a normal unit that crashes into enemies
That lowkey looks like my friends avatar for halloween
Mert I literly canot uinderstand ur videos cuz of ur accent. Also u dont needa milk this game so hard
Okay i may understand what are you saying but goddamn fix that grammar
Why are you annoyed because of his accent that’s not his fault + there’s subtitles
man, mankind, ur speling is soooo bads its hert my brian
Not everyone is from the states lil bro 💀
you can't be talking when your grammar is that bad 💀
Here’s my opinion on why the relic tower isn’t really good:
1. The bandits, zealots and archers are only meant for the early game, and even then, they somehow still struggle against the early game. YOU HAD ONE FRICKING JOB BRO anyways the price is pretty cheap, which is good.
2. Wardens are pretty good for the mid-game, in which it does decent chip splash damage to hordes, and has 1500 hp, making it a pretty solid unit for mid game. It can even shred an Elite Grenadier and its summons! However, it completely falls off in late game, as it’s hp is just too low for late game, and its fire rate is too slow for the fast enemies in late game.
3. Overseer is pretty good against bosses, you only need 5 of them to spawn to destroy mk 2( not accounting for the other enemies that spawn ) BUT the problem is that it can easily collide with weaker enemies, and it is countered my multipliers. For example, wave 39 made me lose an overseer cuz of some stupid multiplier 2
4. Zed is bad for early game, can be good or bad for mid game, and dominates the late game. 2 max level zeds can shred all the chargers, revived abominations and the 3 predators on wave 30 of expert mode. It can also deal good splash damage and has very high dps, especially when you have multiple of them. It wouldn’t struggle to multipliers like overseer, cuz it’s super high dps and splash damage can shred through multiplier hordes, and it doesn’t rely on its collision damage like the overseer.
5. Zed is also very good for bosses, due it its high dps. You’ll need about 10 max level zeds in total to take down mk 2, which is pretty good. It also doesn’t struggle against the other enemies, which makes it pretty good for taking down bosses.
But hey, all spawners are spawners, and each of them have their good uses. After all, we should use both of them although relic wasn’t too worth the grind, and all spawners always work together. Barracks is good for its rail troopers and scout 4s for their dps, while also for its rioters, m202 troopers and flamethrowers for special damage. Armoured factory is good for its high chip dps from humvee 4 and m2 bradley, while also for its high splash damage m1 and m1X abrams. Zed is good for its fourth and max level, which dominate the late game. Relic is good for its warden which can do good crowd control in mid game, and overseer is good for single high-priority bosses.
Thx for reading this comment, sorry for yapping too much
Hey guys I haven’t played TDX for a few months, since slammer came out. Are there any new nerfs or good towers? I have most of them already.
WAIT. We have the same amount of spawners with the same idea as Tower battles. Top max is TB barrack, idk what path is armor factory is related to TB version of Armour factory. ZED is TB ZED and the newer one seems awfully like the graveyard in TB
It's almost like tdx is like a sequel to tb wow who would have thought! 🤯
I think the Archer should be able to change to a dagger in close combat.
All i have to say is like elf camp but stronger i really want that tower because i love summons loadout 😊
The rework (and buff) should be really simple.
+PLACEMENT LIMIT
BASE LEVEL (BALANCED)
ARCHERS (50/75 DPS)
KNIGHT (MORE DMG)
WARDEN (LESS COOLDOWN, MORE DPS)
NEW UNITS
UNIT GLOW UPS ON WARDEN UPDATE (MORE DPS, DIFFERENT ASTHETIC, MORE SPAWNS)
OVERSEER (+ RANGE, 4000 DPS)
doesn’t over seer have 0 dps?
@@adm456 I assume rework will change its function and not just rebalance it.
If yall making it better then Zed,
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@@nathantrusty7468 until relic rework, i think zed will be better. THEY BETTER BUFF THE BANDIT AND ZEALOT TO ACTUALLY BE LIKE THE IMAGE
Hey, I have a new unit for barracks it’s a idea
Mert yoo why did you unadd me i know we havent talk in a long time but im just curious alright!
my restaurant needs to update
Hmmm may i asq what tower is more worth to get g jug or heli?🤔 ( Greate videos keep going)
g jug 100%
heli
heli tbh
probably heli
G jug
2 more spawner towers and we have a hole loadout
THE STRONGERST SPAWNER TOWER IN HYSTORY VS THE STRONGERST SPAWNER TOWER OF TODAY
imagine increase ZED limit to 8 relic will begone
I think Z.E.D. stand for
Zoming
Eradicating
Device.
why we have to compare while we can use both of them:)??
there are 6 spawners tower, commander and operator count
i think its stupid because imagine the poor new players after the halloween update and they cant even use relic and its so op, they already did this with zed and commander, there isnt really anything else but yea
@@MrScytheLoreGaming relic aint op
@@somedude2150 talking about after the rework assuming the rework is going to be a buff according to you guys saying its dog which i can agree
The relic is worth it when it has the 909 spa and 150000 hp but they needed it into a piece of 💩
Lmao its soo much stronger by zed once it starts spawning that deer thing with 100k hp if it haf 150k hp it could literaly one shot eradicator which is even more broken
relic is ass for a 19k points tower thats about it the zed is better at everything else and tbh you cant even call it the 2nd strongest spawner tower because of how buggy it is they 100% rushed the relic thinking they could do a rework after release because they thought people wouldnt get relic that fast
Ngl, shame on this game. Being REALLY good at start but more grindy than tds golden towers and hardcore and just getting more and more grindy making the issue even worse and adding p2w fortnite battlepass ahh systems for sickest and modt op towers or grinding for 50 years without you making it in time and just missing out on cool towers
Wdym the event is over soon
it ends on nov 17th
@@cyberblade-ob9rvbut the battle pass says there is like 40 days left?
@@LocalBirdGaming 43
Barracks will always be better
Because it's good for early
MID and end runs
And big guy with gun 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
(Ngl Zed is better for alot of reasons sure relic has a 100k spawn for 300k money used to be 400k but you can get around 2 and a half maxed ZED and relic's DPS suck for early it just gets carried with the big boy)
mert ingilizcen harbi kafamı karıstırıyor xd türk gibi konusuyorsun ama bilemedimde :D neyse iyi günler.
Very informativ👍
with what ? 2:47
darker “people”
Broo 19k tokens for relic!?
But yeah zed was 5k tokens but for 20 mind u got 200 tokens, and you get about 750 for 15 mins rn tho
It’s really not that much compared to zed
Lol it's easy considering u get 800 for normal in chap 3 and 4 not even out yet
overseer has like 1666,67 dps
Yoo dying light miusic
I thought this game was dead mertL
Hey mert
Relic need a buff
just have both
based
when the showcase is good but the accent is doodoo
bro zed is way better than relic
Bro forgot operator and commander
both of those have over uses rather than having its sole purpose being spawning units
Indian ahh accent 😭🙏
watdesigma
Have an better script.
relic better
stop repeating yourself to get to the 8 minute mark. Its annoying, and is part of the reason people dislike you.